w******n
发帖数: 1837 | 1 我想穆斯林也会认可这个词的。 难道这个屠杀gay的不是穆斯林， 难道不是radical
Islam？ |
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w******n
发帖数: 1837 | 2
说这个难道就跟整个伊斯兰世界开战了？ 整个伊斯兰世界都是radical Islam？ |
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发帖数: 1 | 3 Radical is NOT equal to terrorist.
Radical 是思想上的极端。思想 上的问题 不好直接定性为犯罪。
比如 一个人 可以有非常 radical 的 view。比如在很多问题上的对错是非可以很
radical。但是 如果他不付诸行动。不认为应该通过行动强迫别人 那么不好定位犯罪
。
[在 wildswan (the ugly duckling) 的大作中提到：]
:我想穆斯林也会认可这个词的。 难道这个屠杀gay的不是穆斯林， 难道不是radical
:Islam？ |
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g***j
发帖数: 40861 | 4 杨远哲
358 人赞同
我认为伊斯兰在有限的未来时间内几乎不可能迎来宗教改革。完全不同意@阿尔斯兰的
看法。
理由如下：
1、无论是穆尔太齐赖，还是苏菲的改革，若按照改革的逻辑持续深挖下去，那么最终
古兰经本身必然会受到难以解释的质疑，这是很多穆斯林所不允许的。
2、所谓的“改革”实际是在重新凭空凭现代人的思想重新解释经文，而并非以穆罕默
德的方式解释。
3、早期的圣训分类分级早已完成，现代任何企图凭空改变这种分类分级的做法，都是
难以找到不可撼动的神学依据的。改革者会被认为是在信仰一种类似伊斯兰的文化，而
不是伊斯兰，这属于伪信，而伪信在古兰经里的下场是怎么阐述的，基本穆斯林都知道
。因为改革者无法找到更原始更可靠的资料反驳目前的大体分类依据，只是由着自己的
性子凭空想象。
4.伊斯兰世界乌玛早已分裂，在现在的框架下改革者若不能取得号召整个伊斯兰世界的
政治地位，则无任何成功之一丝可能。
从古至今许多开明的穆斯林士人试图改革伊斯兰，但均惨遭失败，如埃及的Muhammad
Ali、Sayyid al-Qimni、Nasr Abu Zayd、Khalil Abdel-Karim、Abdo... 阅读全帖 |
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c*********e
发帖数: 16335 | 5 islam honor killing俄亥俄州州克里夫兰医疗中心药学博士塔汉妮?曼苏尔9月27日在
家中卧室遭父贾马尔?曼苏尔枪杀身亡。 （美联社）
俄亥俄州州克里夫兰的贾马尔?曼苏尔9月27日在家中枪杀药学博士女儿塔汉妮?曼苏尔
，动机不明。 （美联社）
俄亥俄州州克利夫兰（Cleveland）的塔汉妮?曼苏尔（Tahani Mansour）不久前被当地
知名的克利夫兰医疗中心（Cleveland Clinic）录用，原本前程似锦的27岁药学博士，
却于9月27日在家中卧室遭父亲枪杀，亲生父亲狠心杀女的动机至今仍是个迷。
塔汉妮2013年毕业于东北俄亥俄医科大学（Northeast Ohio Medical Universty），杀
害她的63岁生父贾马尔?曼苏尔（Jamal Mansour），本周以重罪谋杀罪被起诉。上月27
日，贾马尔进入女儿房间，使用.38口径左轮手枪对其头部连开三枪，其中两枪射中塔
汉妮头部。
警方尚未透露为何贾马尔谋杀了他六个孩子中年纪最小的塔汉妮。被逮捕时，他对警方
说，因为他当时过于气愤，这件事纯属意外。
检察官欧西亚在指出，贾马尔是对塔汉妮「执行了死刑... 阅读全帖 |
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z****g
发帖数: 3509 | 6 有极端原教旨Chinese，有温和Chinese
Chinese中有改良派，有保守派
中国大陆相当于沙特
中共使领馆文化教育官员相当于Islam里的极端派cleric
微信公众号上的文章相当于Koran和Hadith
要讨论Chinese在西方的社会融入问题
要讨论Chinese-ness和现代西方社会的compatibility和共存性的问题
Chinese面对港台人不愿自认Chinese时的歇斯底里，和穆斯林对于叛教者必须处死的疯
狂如出一辙
Chinese偷技术回中国的，与平时看着挺正常，莫名其妙就变成自杀式袭击恐怖分子的
穆斯林可以类比
妈的，想想就知道好日无边
老将小将可以对号入座了 |
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C**********e
发帖数: 23303 | 7 差远了
Islam里没有那么多老将伊奸
中国是世界上汉奸最多的国家
参见抗战的伪军数量 |
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z***n
发帖数: 590 | 8 呵呵，国家高堂上坐的是中国历史上最大的汉奸，勾结俄国，退让日本窃国大盗。你看
看现在发生的都是你土公公当年做的，也是土公公没有底气的原因。
: 差远了
: Islam里没有那么多老将伊奸
: 中国是世界上汉奸最多的国家
: 参见抗战的伪军数量
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发帖数: 1846 | 9 http://yle.fi/uutiset/radical_british_islamist_the_flag_of_isla
Anjem Choudary led the Islamist group Islam4UK in Britain before it was
proscribed under the UK's counter terrorism laws in 2010.
Choudary was in Helsinki last Thursday to speak at a secretive gathering
held to mark the tenth anniversary of the jailing in Norway of Kurdish
radical Islamist leader Mullah Krekar.
Last week, the Finnish Security Intelligence Service (Supo) confirmed to Yle
that it was aware of the gathering. A Supo rep... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******u
发帖数: 2249 | 10 Islamic law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts
given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.
The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule
on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving
domestic violence.
Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the
full power of the judicial system, through county courts or the country's
High Court, a part of its Supreme Court system.
Previously, the ruling |
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C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 11 鳌八的UN发言：“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet
of Islam.”
除了Foxnew，没有一个猪流媒体提到这一句，呵呵，猪流媒体其实就是闵猪党宣传机器
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C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 12 你不是最痛恨黑人吗，怎么转发Nigerian黑人发的反美帖子。可笑
The original title was:
CIA NOW ADMITS THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA IS A RADICAL ISLAMIC ENEMY OF AMERICA |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 13 Don’t pretend Paris terror attack has nothing to do with Islam
by Jammie via Jammie Wearing Fools
“This was an attack on freedom,” French President Francois Hollande said.
But then, perhaps to avoid spreading the blame to all of France’s Muslims,
the largest such minority in Europe, he added, “We must realize our best
weapon is unity. Nothing must separate us or drive us apart.”
Well, something is driving us apart: We believe in freedom; the terrorists
don’t.
The hashtag #JeSuisCharlie (“I am Ch... 阅读全帖 |
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g********2
发帖数: 6571 | 14 Omar Mateen called the cops to pledge his fealty to ISIS as he was carrying
out his mass murder in Orlando early Sunday. Twelve hours later, the
president of the United States declared that “we have no definitive
assessment on the motivation” of Omar Mateen but that “we know he was a
person filled with hate.”
So I guess the president thinks Mateen didn’t mean it?
Here again, and horribly, we have an unmistakable indication that Obama
finds it astonishingly easy to divorce himself from a reality ... 阅读全帖 |
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j*********r
发帖数: 24733 | 15 跟奥粑粑口径不一致啊，拉稀痢肯定要被奥粑粑下跘子了，坐等。
“I have clearly said that we face terrorist enemies who use Islam to
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to |
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j*********r
发帖数: 24733 | 16 可问题是radical Islamism是拉稀痢的亲儿子啊
51% |
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f****g
发帖数: 23666 | 17 最好附上拉稀里和本拉登的合影。
这些evil被培养壮大，都tmd是这个老婊子造的孽。
“I have clearly said that we face terrorist enemies who use Islam to
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to |
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h***1
发帖数: 2263 | 18 ..... And we will ........... by accept 250000 木木难民。
“I have clearly said that we face terrorist enemies who use Islam to
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to |
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c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 19 GE mode
“I have clearly said that we face terrorist enemies who use Islam to
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to |
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s*********0
发帖数: 455 | 20 在GYM听了，人还笑着说i am happy to say...blabla...是笑着说的啊！后那个碧池
carol又放了trump的录音，老唐放的是录音，然后这个碧池不停得“打断”录音说，人
喜来利不是说了嘛，说了嘛，说了是terrorist了嘛。。。有这么不要脸的碧池么！！
“I have clearly said that we face terrorist enemies who use Islam to
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to |
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l*********o
发帖数: 3091 | 21 Hilary will say BUILD THE WALL, ha!
“I have clearly said that we face terrorist enemies who use Islam to
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to |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 22 大统令也是奇葩：说radical islam很难吗？ |
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W***o
发帖数: 6519 | 23 B Hussein Obama is Islamic himself, unsurprisingly he will not say that
discussing
its
blunt |
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c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 24 据说真不是radical Islamism,而是自恨的lgbt.看来巴马还真有预见性，连俺老人家这
么客观的都jump to conclusion了这次。
discussing
its
blunt |
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j*********r
发帖数: 24733 | 25 不管怎样就是还是不肯说这个词呗，反正它不会call radical islam terrorism的就是。
ISIS
muslin |
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j*********r
发帖数: 24733 | 27 看了下他演讲的全文，也是 radical Islamic terrorism，这点真佩服老川 |
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c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 28 是的，基本在相对正式，或书面上，都是这么讲，这样，对手很难反对 打击
terrorism。
有时，口头交流时也许省略些。
再一个，从这点细节上看，奥巴才是 trump 的真正对手，hillary 的智商不行，昨天
hillary 在压力下，不情愿的说，她可以 call 这个term。
但，奥巴出来时，就处心积虑的，故意先twist the term，然后在反击 trump，奥巴的
心思缜密的多，这样的口头之争，一来二去，如果最后 路到 islam，trump 会丢分；
但 要是 落到 terrorism，奥巴就无可 辩了。 |
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f********8
发帖数: 5601 | 29 牛金贵的观点：现在美国对Radical Islam的态度和二战前欧洲对希特勒的态度一样。
以为是感冒，最后发现是癌症。 |
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 30 why are you guys so surprised? Islam is exactly like that. |
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g********2
发帖数: 6571 | 31 Ann13 hours ago
Just like the Boston Marathon bombers - who this guy pledged allegiance to
during the 911 phone calls - he was an 'anchor baby' - born in the USA to
foreign parents who came here - and the mother left to go home to Dagestan
after she dropped the anchor babies as ticking time bombs in the USA as "
natural born citizens".
How many tens of thousands of these Islamic 'anchor babies' are sleeper ISIS
or Al Qaeda operatives or at least sympathizers.
Same deal in Europe - it's the kids ... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 32 On the second point, radical Islam if I may be permitted a quick story. Back
in the early 1980s, President Reagan was trying to decide whether to call
the Soviet Union an evil empire. I was among those who urged him not to do
that on his staff. I thought it was wrong. I thought it would upset the
Soviets. I think in retrospect I was wrong. He used the term. I think it
worked well. Tony Dolan who was a speechwriter was the one who persuaded him
. He had the better argument and that is rhetoricall... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 34 Obama is shit. Hillary is shit too. No matter how many Americans were killed
, it is always America's fault, always defending Muslim and Islam.
Watch out what position Obama seeks after retirement. He hates America. Wait
until he becomes some world leader and spreads more harm.
If Hillary becomes new US president, and Obama becomes the United Nations
president, US will be in abyss. |
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发帖数: 763 | 35 黑人穆斯林，大统领的好儿子
[在 gemini2012 (双子AB) 的大作中提到：]
:A Youtube account operated by Gavin Eugene Long and discovered by The Daily
Caller reveals key insight into what might have motivated the 29-year-old
:black man who killed three Baton Rouge police officers Sunday morning.
:Videos on Long’s account show that he was a former Nation of Islam member.
He also ranted against “crackers” and made references to Alton Sterling,
:the black man killed by police in Baton Rouge on July 5.
:Other information about ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 36 英国一个伊斯兰教牧师布道说
It is okay to take prisoners and sex slaves under Islam. |
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T*********I
发帖数: 10729 | 37 左逼民主党对于右派的批评从来毫不吝啬。比如直呼TRUMP是白人至上，可是同为白人
的稀拉里就没有这个称谓。
但是左逼民主党对于罪犯（无论是非法入侵的墨西哥试图移民者，还是抽大麻海洛因被
警察逮住的罪犯，还是在社区横冲直撞抢你白抢打你白打的Michael Brown, 还是强奸
女孩子的重犯，还是动辄爆破轻则也爆破杀人的极端穆斯林，等等等等）却是相当的仁
慈。 上至奥巴马（这人本来就是穆斯林），下至稀拉里，没有一个愿意说radical
islam的。
基本上就是一句话：民主党为犯罪保驾护航，罪犯为民主党掠夺中产保驾护航。 |
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t*c
发帖数: 8291 | 38 收了沙特那么多钱，怎么敢说这个词。美国台面上大多数政客都收过沙特钱，所以都不
敢说这个字。radical islam瓦哈比派是沙特国教。 |
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g********2
发帖数: 6571 | 39 Watch Clinton Cash
@JaredWyand
BANNED FROM YOUTUBE: Civil Rights Activist exposes how Obama's Harvard
tuition was paid for by Islamic Supremacists
Ever wonder why Obama's entire Presidency has been about Muslims?
The truth is Obama was groomed from the beginning to con his way into the
Presidency and open the flood gates for the rise of the Caliphate you see
today spreading into Western Civilization.
视频在此：
https://twitter.com/JaredWyand/status/769655068064821248 |
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W*******n
发帖数: 4140 | 40 Donut Trump was correct by saying that President Obama is the founder of
Islamic State. The U.S. needs to create some lies to invade Syria, and to
suck Turkey into the sinkhole too.
has
over
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G****e
发帖数: 11198 | 43 Jihad Watch ...
by Knight Watchman
Beware the Beard Muhammad as you stroll upon the mall
The eyes of terror seek you from behind its hirsute wall
The Hijab stands beside it masking locks that women pride
Within it seething hatred pretty colors try to hide
Beware of your surroundings as you choose that waffle cone
Don't be a lamb to slaughter while gazing at your phone
Wake up and smell the coffee is the catch phrase of the wise
The Quran has a plan for you that's buried in its lies
Beware they w... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 45 TRUE ISLAM MUSLIMS: 从娃娃抓起，教它们如何砍你的头！ |
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u**r
发帖数: 810 | 46 加州亚裔细分法案，因为亚裔工作学习勤奋缴税太多上大学的太多，特别是华裔太可恶
，先把华裔从亚裔中分出去，搞你的时候韩裔，菲律宾裔不帮你。华裔还是太多，再分
成说普通话的，闽南话的，广东话的，。。。， 今天搞这个，其他的觉得不是搞他们
无所谓，明天再搞那个。
川普提议 register radical islam 为安全，民主党的犹太人都威胁要注册成muslim
民主党是什么样一个团体？全美国的人渣都加入民猪党了？ 它为何怎么恨亚裔尤其华
裔，难道我们亚裔民猪党员牺牲还不够多吗。看了哈佛的亚裔 liberal 表态支持aa还
不够 ，还没有让主子满意。 |
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g***c
发帖数: 11523 | 47 the hill 上一个人的评论，很准确
Andrew Scriveley • 3 minutes ago
Great move. Now both the most important parts of the progressive coalition
are represented by the top DNC posts - Illegal aliens and Islamic terrorist
jihadis. |
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发帖数: 1 | 48 其实真正的敌人是islam. 在明确的指出来之前， 反恐不会有任何实质性的成果。 |
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a*******o
发帖数: 898 | 49 radical islamic terrorist
是说每一个 MSL都是恐怖分子吗？
你丫 简直就是弱智吧。 |
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