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发帖数: 168 | 1 拟修改法案原文
§ 204.5 Petitions for employment-based immigrants.
(n)
(3) Validity of approved petitions. Unless approval is revoked under section
203(g) or 205 of the Act, an employment-based petition is valid
indefinitely.
§ 205.1 Automatic revocation.
(a) * * *
(3) * * *
(iii) * * *
(C) In employment-based preference cases, upon written notice of withdrawal
filed
by the petitioner to any officer of USCIS who is authorized to grant or deny
petitions,
where the withdrawal is filed less than 180 days after approval of the
employment-based
preference petition, provided that the revocation of a petition’s approval
under this clause
will not, by itself, impact a beneficiary’s ability to retain his or her
priority date under 8
CFR 204.5(e). A petition that is withdrawn 180 days or more after approval
remains
approved unless its approval is revoked on other grounds. If an employment-
based
petition on behalf of an alien is withdrawn, the job offer of the
petitioning employer is
rescinded and the alien must obtain a new employment-based preference
petition on his
or her behalf in order to seek adjustment of status or issuance of an
immigrant visa as an
employment-based immigrant, unless eligible for adjustment of status under
section
204(j) of the Act and in accordance with 8 CFR 245.25.
(D) Upon termination of the petitioning employer’s business less than 180
days after petition approval in an employment-based preference case under
section
203(b)(1)(B), 203(b)(1)(C), 203(b)(2), or 203(b)(3) of the Act, provided
that the
revocation of a petition’s approval under this clause will not, by itself,
impact a
beneficiary’s ability to retain his or her priority date under 8 CFR 204.5(
e). If a
petitioning employer’s business terminates 180 days or more after approval,
the
petition remains approved unless its approval is revoked on other grounds.
If a
petitioning employer’s business terminates, the job offer of the
petitioning employer
is rescinded and the beneficiary must obtain a new employment-based
preference
petition on his or her behalf in order to seek adjustment of status or
issuance of an
immigrant visa as an employment-based immigrant, unless eligible for
adjustment of
status under section 204(j) of the Act and in accordance with 8 CFR 245.25.
204.5(n)(3) 说一旦140批准，除非revoked， 永久有效。
205 (iii)（c）说，雇主可以在180之内withdrawal，然后会revoke，但是pd保留。 如
果180天之后withdrawal则基本不会影响140， 除非有其他理由例如作假之类。 但之后
这段好像有点让人疑惑，If an employment-based
petition on behalf of an alien is withdrawn, the job offer of the
petitioning employer is
rescinded and the alien must obtain a new employment-based preference
petition on his
or her behalf in order to seek adjustment of status or issuance of an
immigrant visa as an
employment-based immigrant, unless eligible for adjustment of status under
section
204(j) of the Act and in accordance with 8 CFR 245.25.
这个涉及到能否port的问题，这个withdrawal到底指的是180天之内还是也包括180之后
的让人疑惑，180天之内可以理解，这里说的很清楚，automatic revocation，如果泛
泛指所有的withdrawal，那就是说180天之后如果换雇主，即使140有效，也要重新做
140？那么这个容许继续有效的140有啥用？ 那跟原来的就根本没变化了，似乎也背离
了这个法案的初衷。反正只要withdrawl，管你是不是180天，换不换雇主都要重新做，
那204.5(n)(3)所说Unless approval is revoked under section 203(g) or 205 of
the Act, an employment-based petition is valid indefinitely.以及之前的一句A
petition that is withdrawn 180 days or more after approval remains approved
unless its approval is revoked on other grounds 就是屁话一句。。
对于（c）和（d）的最后一句是不是应该澄清下 比如 If an employment-based
petition on behalf of an alien is withdrawn and revoked, the job offer of
the petitioning employer is rescinded and the alien must obtain a new
employment-based preference petition on his or her behalf in order to seek
adjustment of status or issuance of an immigrant visa as an employment-based
immigrant, unless eligible for adjustment of status under section 204(j) of
the Act and in accordance with 8 CFR 245.25.
140 EAD就不要想太多了，没啥用，又太多限制，而且就一年有效，移民局都说了预计
合乎要求的人也不是很多。。。 | c***1
发帖数: 652 | 2 赞研究精神，根据这段话来看，PERM是必须重新做的了。
，If an employment-based petition on behalf of an alien is withdrawn, the
job offer of the petitioning employer is rescinded and the alien must obtain
a new employment-based preference petition on his or her behalf in order to
seek adjustment of status or issuance of an immigrant visa as an employment
-based immigrant, unless eligible for adjustment of status under section 204
(j) of the Act and in accordance with 8 CFR 245.25.
automatic revocation是老的内容，就是说如果雇主申请withdraw 140那么移民局就自
动revoke。但是新的内容是如果140 approval 180天，那么automatic revocation就不
再成立。
然后根据上面这段话，adjustment of status就是485，immigration visa就是140。上
面这段话就是说，如果愿雇主withdraw了140，虽然已有的140不会被revoke （还可以
用来保持PD，申请H1延期），但是不能再用来申请485(adjustment of status)。如果
需要申请绿卡，那么雇主需要start a new petition for adjustment of status or
immigration visa，因为跟原来140相关的job offer已经被rescinded。
如果说上面还不是100%清楚，那么最后一句话提供了一个confirmation，就是说唯一的
不需重新申请的例外是portability under section 204(j)。去查一下就发现，204（j
)其实就是485 pending 180天之后的情况。
至于你说的只要withdraw, 换不换雇主都要重做，这是显然的啊。即使你不换雇主，
withdraw了不就说明你的雇主不再支持你的绿卡了吗？ | l****f
发帖数: 168 | 3 根据说明55-56页，As long as such an approval has not been revoked for fraud,
material misrepresentation, the invalidation or revocation
of a labor certification, or USCIS error, the petition will generally
continue to be valid
with regard to the beneficiary for various job portability and status
extension purposes
under the immigration laws. Id. As further described below, this change
would
effectively improve the ability of H-1B nonimmigrants with approved EB-1, EB
-2, or
EB-3 immigrant visa petitions to rely on such petitions for obtaining
exemptions under
section 104(c) of AC21.
Finally, the proposed rule, as per current practice, would allow exemptions
authorized under section 104(c) of AC21 only with respect to the principal
beneficiaries
of employment-based immigrant visa petitions, and not any derivative
beneficiaries
named in such petitions who may also be in H-1B status.
如果这么理解的话，the petition will generally
continue to be valid with regard to the beneficiary for various job
portability and status extension purposes under the immigration laws.也就是
说原雇主的140 有可能被新雇主用来提交新h1b的延期...但一
旦涉及aos 那就得重新做perm 和新雇主的140？
既然容许原雇主的140永久有效，那新雇主自然没有给你重新申请140的动机，继续h1b
好了。。。：（ | c***1
发帖数: 652 | 4 看来是这样的：“to be valid with regard to the beneficiary for various job
portability and status extension purposes”
也就是说不能被revoke的140只能用于portability (EAD) 或者status extension (H1)
purpose，不能用来交485。
当然这和雇主给不给你办绿卡是另外一回事，办绿卡其实是雇主和雇员的一个博弈，他
不给你办，你可以走，他就不容易招到更好的人，这不是一个单方面的施舍。
fraud,
EB
【在 l****f 的大作中提到】
: 根据说明55-56页，As long as such an approval has not been revoked for fraud,
: material misrepresentation, the invalidation or revocation
: of a labor certification, or USCIS error, the petition will generally
: continue to be valid
: with regard to the beneficiary for various job portability and status
: extension purposes
: under the immigration laws. Id. As further described below, this change
: would
: effectively improve the ability of H-1B nonimmigrants with approved EB-1, EB
: -2, or
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