m***f
发帖数: 1622 | 1 对方说你搞计算的，除了计算机和开会，就没什么花销了
所以不打算给很多科研启动经费
怎么才能搞到更多的科研启动费用呢？ |
p*f
发帖数: 739 | 2 要上几个postdoc阿！
【在 m***f 的大作中提到】
: 对方说你搞计算的，除了计算机和开会，就没什么花销了
: 所以不打算给很多科研启动经费
: 怎么才能搞到更多的科研启动费用呢？
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m***f
发帖数: 1622 | 3 除了博士后和学生的钱－－那个另算
问还要多少科研经费
【在 p*f 的大作中提到】
: 要上几个postdoc阿！
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p*f
发帖数: 739 | 4 要个cluster。10万？
学生postdoc的desktop，printer？
conference travel？
summer salary？
要花很简单的。
【在 m***f 的大作中提到】
: 除了博士后和学生的钱－－那个另算
: 问还要多少科研经费
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a*********g
发帖数: 8087 | 5 怪不得很多做计算生物的老板也装模作样的搞个wet lab
好搂钱啊 |
G*****h
发帖数: 320 | 6 Reasonable estimate:
One postdoc/or Research Assistant for two years ($60K-$100K)
Computer cluster ($50K?)
Some other expenses ($10K)
Total $120K-$160K
Depending on the school and your job description, any amount between $100K
to $250K can be reasonable. However, this is just my thought. |
l*******s
发帖数: 3562 | 7 60k-100k怎么可能养得起一个Postdoc 两年？
【在 G*****h 的大作中提到】
: Reasonable estimate:
: One postdoc/or Research Assistant for two years ($60K-$100K)
: Computer cluster ($50K?)
: Some other expenses ($10K)
: Total $120K-$160K
: Depending on the school and your job description, any amount between $100K
: to $250K can be reasonable. However, this is just my thought.
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G*****h
发帖数: 320 | 8 It may be off a lot, depending on the location. Definitely more for some
expensive
places.
I guess that, average levels - 60k for RA and 100k for a postdoc might be
reasonable.
However, startups will more likely to support an RA or technician, rather
than a
postdoc, so $100k salary might be the maximum you can ask for in the package.
BTW, some government or state funds will kick in fringes and benefits. If
salaries are
supported by this type of funds, you gain additional 20-30% hidden money.
【在 l*******s 的大作中提到】
: 60k-100k怎么可能养得起一个Postdoc 两年？
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m***f
发帖数: 1622 | 9 花10万买个CLUSTER搞计算?
现在电脑每隔1年速度就翻番, 1万美元的超级个人PC或工作站就完全应付很多计算任务
了,大不了2年后再花1万搞个工作站. 所以cluster完全没必要,除非钱多了撑的
【在 p*f 的大作中提到】
: 要个cluster。10万？
: 学生postdoc的desktop，printer？
: conference travel？
: summer salary？
: 要花很简单的。
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m***f
发帖数: 1622 | 10 什么叫wet lab
搞计算的人怎么搞WET LAB?
请教
【在 a*********g 的大作中提到】
: 怪不得很多做计算生物的老板也装模作样的搞个wet lab
: 好搂钱啊
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p*f
发帖数: 739 | 11 好多成名的大老板找个tech，几个postdoc。做实验验证计算
在 mikef (mike) 的大作中提到: 】 |
p*f
发帖数: 739 | 12 等待时间太长了。
有个小的方便多了。
【在 m***f 的大作中提到】
: 花10万买个CLUSTER搞计算?
: 现在电脑每隔1年速度就翻番, 1万美元的超级个人PC或工作站就完全应付很多计算任务
: 了,大不了2年后再花1万搞个工作站. 所以cluster完全没必要,除非钱多了撑的
|
G*****h
发帖数: 320 | 13 是指要用试剂材料做些实验的lab。比方说，如果搞进化计算的，可以自己选些物种，
clone 和
得到序列做计算用。做functional genomics的，可以自己建个做microarray
hybridization
and scanning lab. 做计算机药物筛选的，结果可以在自己的wet lab的细胞／动物模
型上先直
接验证。有不少computational biologists or bioinfomaticists 本身就是wet and
dry
experiments 都做的。
【在 m***f 的大作中提到】
: 什么叫wet lab
: 搞计算的人怎么搞WET LAB?
: 请教
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m***f
发帖数: 1622 | 14 正确
尤其是算出东西来,上传下传数据花的功夫和时间太愚蠢了
任务
【在 p*f 的大作中提到】
: 等待时间太长了。
: 有个小的方便多了。
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m***f
发帖数: 1622 | 15 大哥,什么叫dry experiments?
【在 G*****h 的大作中提到】
: 是指要用试剂材料做些实验的lab。比方说，如果搞进化计算的，可以自己选些物种，
: clone 和
: 得到序列做计算用。做functional genomics的，可以自己建个做microarray
: hybridization
: and scanning lab. 做计算机药物筛选的，结果可以在自己的wet lab的细胞／动物模
: 型上先直
: 接验证。有不少computational biologists or bioinfomaticists 本身就是wet and
: dry
: experiments 都做的。
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G*****h
发帖数: 320 | 16 Dry experiments or dry bench experiments = slang expression for virtual,
simulated
experiments (for which the actual wet bench experiments are not performed),
such as
computational screening of virtual small molecular libraries for potential
inhibitors against an enzyme based on their structural data.
【在 m***f 的大作中提到】
: 大哥,什么叫dry experiments?
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m***f
发帖数: 1622 | 17 this is actually in silicon simulation
or just called computational simulations (experiments)
why called dry ...?
experiment lab just called experimetnal lab, why web lab?
sounds like shit
,
potential
【在 G*****h 的大作中提到】
: Dry experiments or dry bench experiments = slang expression for virtual,
: simulated
: experiments (for which the actual wet bench experiments are not performed),
: such as
: computational screening of virtual small molecular libraries for potential
: inhibitors against an enzyme based on their structural data.
|
G*****h
发帖数: 320 | 18 You are right. Just like it is actually feces or waste matter discharged
from the bowels after food has
been digested, but you called it shit.
【在 m***f 的大作中提到】
: this is actually in silicon simulation
: or just called computational simulations (experiments)
: why called dry ...?
: experiment lab just called experimetnal lab, why web lab?
: sounds like shit
:
: ,
: potential
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c***r
发帖数: 1570 | 19 感觉cluster还是很有必要的，尤其是检验程序和参数的时候，想很快知道结果。如果
模型/参数都定了，跑大规模问题的时候让电脑慢慢跑好了，只要不断电在10天能算出
来就能接受了。 |
P****d
发帖数: 564 | 20 Quote from Warren Gish's webpage before he left academia: The only spot that
is wet in our lab is the coffee pot.
Programmers are much more expensive than technicians, their wet counterparts.
Asking for two positions for three years? You can always ask for a
programmer and use the money to pay for two students.
Which field of computational biology would be so removed from experimental
biology that an AP doesn't know the "wet lab"? :)
I always thought that the computer geeks invented the jargon |
