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w*****o
发帖数: 1806 | 1 原来关键是：虽然都是milled receiver的AK，但是SLR是单排的整枪进口的，然后拆了
，切了，换了不少部件，改成支持双排弹夹，所以是个convert了的整枪；而SAM7是从
开始就造的double stack，所有部件都是新的，所以是个真正意义上全新的枪。
所以价差主要是两地labor的差别。2003年sam7就比SLR101卖的贵个150块左右。
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=58578
正像这里那位SSR-99兄说的，这两把枪还是兄弟，就是出生地不同，这个200的价差这
样说起来可能也算合理.
It's correct that for Arsenal Inc to make an SLR-101 into a double stack mag
shooter, they must put the SLR-101 through a conversion process. The SLR-
101 single stack gun arrives completely manufactured and assembled from
Arsenal of Bulgaria. When Arsenal Inc of Nevada receives them, they sell
some of them as they are received, while others get put aside for the
conversion. The ones slated for the double stack mag conversion, will get
the following done to them:
*It receives milling to the mag well area in order for it to accept high
capacity mags (some folks have had better luck with these guns accepting all
standard AK mags than others)
*their bolts are removed, and a new bolt is then fitted to the gun. The new
bolt is said to be the standard SA-M7/SLR-95 sized bolt, which is said to
have a thicker stem and a wider lower area. The thicker stem would mean that
they either must modify the existing bolt carrier channel so that it will
accept the thicker stem, or that a new carrier must also be installed as
part of the conversion.
*The receiver also gets a lower buttstock tange installed (requiring minimal
milling and a few new rivets)
*A traditional style buttstock (which is something like 1 1/4" to 1 1/2"
longer than the average AK-47 buttstock) replaces the SLR-101 thumbhole
buttstock (the replacement is U.S. made under Bulgarian license)
*A standard pistol grip is added (U.S. made under Bulgarian license)
*A new Fire Control Group is installed (U.S. made under Bulgarian license)
*Receives a full or partial refinish to cover the modification milling
*As stated above, no modification is done for the gun to accept a cleaning
rod under the barrel
Now, lets look the SA-M7:
The brand new components needed to build the double stack SA-M7 are imported
from the Arsenal Co. of Bulgaria, except for it's American made Receiver,
Fire Control Group, and Stockset. While some components are American made,
they are made here in the U.S. under license of the Bulgarian firm.
*The standard SA-M7 stockset is made in the U.S.A., and is made using the
same German polymer that is used by the Bulgarians to manufacture theirs (
again, all done under Bulgarian license). The exception to the stockset
being all American made, is the buttstock used on the SA-M7 Carbine model,
which uses the American set, but has a Bulgarian made buttstock. The only
real difference between the SA-M7 American made buttstock, and the SA-M7
Carbine model Bulgarian made buttstock, is the fact that the American
buttstock is 1 1/4" (or is it 1 1/2"?) longer than the Bulgarian buttstock.
*Their fire control groups are made here under license using the same method
of milling them out of forged steel. These are not reverse engineered, but
instead made using the correct specifications given to them by their
Bulgarian friends.
*The receiver is also made here under license using the same method of
milling them out of forged steel ingots. Again, these are done as above, in
other words not needing reverse engineering to get the correct
specifications and heat treating.
*And yes, the SA-M7 has the correct set up to hold the cleaning rod
underneith the barrel.
*Fully assembled here in the US, but even that is done under license, and is
done by guys that were brought over from Bulgaria.
I suspect that their need to place a higher price on the SA-M7's is
warranted, and that it is most likely because they require more labor be
done State-side. The receiver alone must add to the expense, since they are
completely milled here from scratch. And of course the SA-M7 is completely
assembled here as well, and I'm sure at a bit higher cost. The SLR-101 is
built overseas, but it does receive some US modification (and therefore some
State-side labor).
These two gun models are brothers, but I can see where the price difference
comes in. | q****o
发帖数: 769 | 2 nb！！！ 准备入了！！！ 网络英雄大哥，你在哪个州？ | w*****o
发帖数: 1806 | 3 VA，兄弟你呢？
说起来，怎么今天走的跟飞一样？昨晚我订时还有７４把， 现在５５把了。
看来两天之内就会光啦，前几天好像都没怎么动。 | q****o
发帖数: 769 | 4 邻居大哥啊！ 我在MD。
这样的order如何place啊？ 我其实早就加到购物车了，但是有个疑问，shipping
address是不是得是FFL的？ 我还没有和这边的枪店最后确认，大哥也是寄给VA当地某
个FFL的吗？ shipping address写他们店的地址？ 第一把枪的菜鸟弱问···
：） | w*****o
发帖数: 1806 | 5 ...我晕，你至少试试checkout啊，他们checkout有个page上有个box，供你写FFL信息
和special notes | d*******s
发帖数: 15155 | 6 MD好像比较严，你那边有什么弹匣size之类限制的吧？AK在你们州没有被禁么？
先去问问你的local FFL，然后问问卖家给不给寄。送货地址是必须写FFL的
【在 q****o 的大作中提到】
: 邻居大哥啊！ 我在MD。
: 这样的order如何place啊？ 我其实早就加到购物车了，但是有个疑问，shipping
: address是不是得是FFL的？ 我还没有和这边的枪店最后确认，大哥也是寄给VA当地某
: 个FFL的吗？ shipping address写他们店的地址？ 第一把枪的菜鸟弱问···
: ：）
| q****o
发帖数: 769 | 7 research了一下，MD的貌似就是弹夹<=20就ok。
有没有MD的大牛觉着我说的不对的，请re一下。 | q****o
发帖数: 769 | 8 MD的州长是个控枪狂，所以很可能有新的法规出台，所以争取弄个pre-ban。 | s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | | f*u
发帖数: 5576 | 10 进了一把，反正价格不离谱。top of line AK
2003年真便宜，现在翻了三倍了都。 | | | w*****o
发帖数: 1806 | 11 恭喜恭喜。
呵呵，就是，说不定9年以后，再谈起1000块的枪，就变成传说了。
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: 进了一把，反正价格不离谱。top of line AK
: 2003年真便宜，现在翻了三倍了都。
| n********i
发帖数: 66 | 12 大家要买哪款，是这个不？
http://www.k-var.com/shop/SAM7R.html
mag
【在 w*****o 的大作中提到】
: 原来关键是：虽然都是milled receiver的AK，但是SLR是单排的整枪进口的，然后拆了
: ，切了，换了不少部件，改成支持双排弹夹，所以是个convert了的整枪；而SAM7是从
: 开始就造的double stack，所有部件都是新的，所以是个真正意义上全新的枪。
: 所以价差主要是两地labor的差别。2003年sam7就比SLR101卖的贵个150块左右。
: http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=58578
: 正像这里那位SSR-99兄说的，这两把枪还是兄弟，就是出生地不同，这个200的价差这
: 样说起来可能也算合理.
: It's correct that for Arsenal Inc to make an SLR-101 into a double stack mag
: shooter, they must put the SLR-101 through a conversion process. The SLR-
: 101 single stack gun arrives completely manufactured and assembled from
| f*u
发帖数: 5576 | 13 That's the one
【在 n********i 的大作中提到】
: 大家要买哪款，是这个不？
: http://www.k-var.com/shop/SAM7R.html
:
: mag
| d*******s
发帖数: 15155 | 14 SAM7的管子也是美国的么？看官网好像机匣是美国造的 | h*********2
发帖数: 2508 | 15 1000刀的枪肯定是没可能，觉得自己将来会买的玩具，还是趁早动手保险，只要不是特
别坑跌的价就跳
【在 w*****o 的大作中提到】
: 恭喜恭喜。
: 呵呵，就是，说不定9年以后，再谈起1000块的枪，就变成传说了。
| f*u
发帖数: 5576 | 16 Cold hammer-forged 16.3” barrel from Arsenal’s Bulgarian factory, built on
Steyr manufacturing technology
【在 d*******s 的大作中提到】
: SAM7的管子也是美国的么？看官网好像机匣是美国造的
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