r****w
发帖数: 7 | 1 从这个帖子中的评论里看到的。美国人民看来已经受够了，这里面曝光了很多印度人的
各种欺诈行径。包括电话面试时雇佣替考！
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/backlash-stirs-us-against-foreign
bolala 6 hours ago 0 9
I was a manager for almost 3 years and I have interviewed numerous off-
shores, and not just from Infosys. Many of which claim to have experiences
to do the technical work but I kid you not, these so-called engineers and
masters of none knows nothing about computers and systems - if they do, they
just came out of the customer support shop and now think they know
everything.
My process of interview goes with reviewing the resume, 30min phone
interview, then a face-to-face interview or in some cases online video
conference.
I have interviewed several H1-B here in the US and caught 3 of them lied in
a very serious way - on the phone interview, I review with them their resume
and asked high-level technical questions. If that goes well, I then proceed
with low-level questions that I know the person should be able provide an
accurate answer. If the interview goes well, that is minimum requirements
are met, I then setup a face-2-face interview or video conference along with
2 or 3 person from my team.
On the face-2-face interview, 2 H1-B applicants on separate occasions were
not able to answer or provide an accurate answer to the same questions they
were given during the phone interview. I asked why they could not answer the
questions when they were so confident during the phone interview and
neither one just had a stare face - one probably thought he was getting
caught and got so sick, he almost throw up. Long story short, one
interviewee hired someone to take the phone interview for him. The other got
his "friend or cousin" took the phone interview for him. That make sense
now since their voice did not match the voice we heard on the phone
interview. We recorded the phone interviews and made them aware as well.
Another interview was a video conference and again, it was the same thing,
he had someone take the phone interview for him.
I then found out later that this is a common practice of H1-Bs - they can't
speak the language or not technical enough so they have someone else take
the interview for them and hope they somehow get in.
After these three incidents, I decided not to pursue off-shores or H1-Bs and
stick with local applicants and train those that have the ability and skill
-sets necessary to the job thoroughly and efficiently. | o**********e
发帖数: 18403 | 2 zan! 谢谢！
欢迎来ITRelief 发帖。
我转过去了！
http://www.mitbbs.com/club_bbsdoc/ITRelief.html
烙印媒体 headline也可以买的。
http://minimsft.blogspot.com/2008/05/whats-up-with-microsoft-in
还有各类简历造假，HM台下交易，
blackmail, bribery,撒谎
nepotism.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Faculty/31591847.html
事不宜迟：如何舆论矛头往烙印身上引
http://www.mitbbs.com/clubarticle_t2/ITRelief/31117093.html
请多在老美朋友中发这种英文文章。
为了政治正确，可以加一句”wow,
is this for real? "
更狠的可以说：“is this the same Infosys
we contract out in our company?" Amazon,
Microsoft, US government, 很多都是infosys
customer.
更狠的可以说：”I'm sure XXX is much better
than this and wouldn't need a phone-interview-double"
XXX should be a well-known clueless outsourcer 烙印大头。
更狠的可以说：”isn't this Hyderabad place where
XXX is from? "
XXX should be a well-known outsourcer 烙印大头,
like Satya
-----------------------------------------------------------
Bangalore: Every day the Indian IT industry wakes up with new challenges
which could be from hiring skilled professionals to cost cutting during
recession. Fake resumes are one of them. Since this is the first step in
hiring, it makes it all the more difficult for companies to pick the right
candidate. Despite having large HR departments, many IT companies have
failed in identifying fake resumes. According to Employee verifications
firms, recruitment companies and HR heads in the IT sector feel the number
of fake resumes floating around have increased fourfold since 2007. Fake
resumes have transformed and turned out to be a fine art nowadays. Most IT
companies revealed that professionals from Hyderabad faked the most in their
resumes.
MindTree terminated 80 employees out of 1000 recruited after it found they
had filed false information, according to Subroto Bagchi, Chief Operating
Officer, "MindTree is closely monitoring the resumes coming especially from
Andhra Pradesh aspirants who provide false information to get a job owing to
social pressures," he added.
The fakery included falsification of resumes, Most of them provided false
employment information, incorrect tenure, gave away fake designations and
some had also had negative supervisor or HR feedback. Manipulated
educational information which had degrees from either unrecognized
institutes or fake institutes and some had not completed the courses that
they had claimed to have done.
Not only the IT sectors the, banking and financial services industry (BFSI)
has also received the fake resume menace with major chunk coming from
Hyderabad. Hyderabad emerged as one of the top cities with highest number of
suspect companies that issued fake resumes.
Noby Nazareth, head of employee verification firm, Evaluationz, said that 25
percent of the resumes that reach him are found to be false or fabricated
or exaggerated. This is largely because some candidates have become much "
smarter" in faking it and there are some recruitment agencies are even
helping them do it. According to Nazareth, a lot of fake resumes involve
candidates from Hyderabad.
"Most of these companies who provide fake experience certificates, salary
slips and even fake educational certificates are located in Hyderabad, while
there are quite a few of them in Bangalore and many other cities as well,"
said Deepankar Sanwalkar who heads the Forensic Dept of KPMG.
Considering the above facts if we analyze why Hyderabad is leading in fake
resumes, we have their state government recently admitting that not more
than 10 percent of their engineering graduates are actually employable. Only
12 percent engineering students from Andhra Pradesh were selected in campus
recruitment in the previous academic year and the figure declined further
in the current year, a recent study by National Association of Software and
Services Companies (Nasscom) has shown.
Small or big, all IT companies have faced and continue to face the scourge.
Wipro, Infosys, TCS and Cognizant and others say they have taken corrective
measures to stop the fakes from getting hired.
It is not only the fake resumes which has brought Hyderabad into the
spotlight, during the Tri-valley university, the city drew a lot of
attention as the scam claimed that as many as 1,555 students, mostly from
Andhra Pradesh enrolled at the Pleasanton School were using fake visas. In a
complaint filed Jan 19 in U.S. District Court in San Francisco, the U.S.
Attorney's Office alleges that the owner of Tri Valley University used the
school to help foreigners illegally obtain student visas that allow them to
stay in the U.S. | r*******k
发帖数: 1423 | 3 好想雇一个人给我作答。。。
they
【在 r****w 的大作中提到】
: 从这个帖子中的评论里看到的。美国人民看来已经受够了，这里面曝光了很多印度人的
: 各种欺诈行径。包括电话面试时雇佣替考！
: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/backlash-stirs-us-against-foreign
: bolala 6 hours ago 0 9
: I was a manager for almost 3 years and I have interviewed numerous off-
: shores, and not just from Infosys. Many of which claim to have experiences
: to do the technical work but I kid you not, these so-called engineers and
: masters of none knows nothing about computers and systems - if they do, they
: just came out of the customer support shop and now think they know
: everything.
| a***n
发帖数: 623 | 4 华人recruiter太少，现在硅谷市场上烙印recruiter就占了大头（起码20%），想给他
们造舆论？太难了。 | c******f
发帖数: 243 | 5 I wish I had this option when I was interviewed =( | o**********e
发帖数: 18403 | 6 LS有点志气好不好！ 就知道懒。
这烙印挺会辩， 不过他不解释
为什么烙印是老中的10倍。
请大家帮着传这些新闻，让
这些新闻冲刺critical mass:
Stanford University Law School fellow Vivek Wadwha, a startup adviser, said
firms are so starved for talent they are buying up other companies to obtain
skilled employees. If there's a bias against Americans, he said, it's an
age bias based on the fact that older workers may not have the latest skills
. More than 70 percent of H-1B petitions approved in 2012 were for workers
between the ages of 25 and 34. | h*******e
发帖数: 6167 | 7 就这还有一帮脑残在那里叫嚣给H4 EAD呢。大批的烙印H4都等着呢，人家英语好，同胞
人脉广，早就盯着recruiter的职位了。一旦给了他们EAD，立马以最cheap的价钱加入
各大公司HR部门。反正EAD也没有工资限制，赚一点是一点。
中国的H4们要英语没英语，要拉帮结派也不会，只能去干个会计啊什么的，屁影响没有
。反而老中H1们，被烙印recuiter卡得死死的。呼吁家里有个H4的老中，不要为了小家
的利益支持这个提案了，因为一旦放开，大家的利益就都没了。
这些H4关他们几年，人老珠黄了自然就不会出来挑事了。等拿了绿卡也只能在家带孩子
了，不会出来害人。
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: 华人recruiter太少，现在硅谷市场上烙印recruiter就占了大头（起码20%），想给他
: 们造舆论？太难了。
| o**********e
发帖数: 18403 | 8 说得对。 H4分明为烙印大妈量身而做。
我们应该反对。 不过真要不行，
老中大妈得猛去占HR位置， 多掌握信息！
主要力量还是应该跟老美合作，
把烙印H1B abuse和外包给断掉。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article0/JobHunting/32732519_0.html
【在 h*******e 的大作中提到】
: 就这还有一帮脑残在那里叫嚣给H4 EAD呢。大批的烙印H4都等着呢，人家英语好，同胞
: 人脉广，早就盯着recruiter的职位了。一旦给了他们EAD，立马以最cheap的价钱加入
: 各大公司HR部门。反正EAD也没有工资限制，赚一点是一点。
: 中国的H4们要英语没英语，要拉帮结派也不会，只能去干个会计啊什么的，屁影响没有
: 。反而老中H1们，被烙印recuiter卡得死死的。呼吁家里有个H4的老中，不要为了小家
: 的利益支持这个提案了，因为一旦放开，大家的利益就都没了。
: 这些H4关他们几年，人老珠黄了自然就不会出来挑事了。等拿了绿卡也只能在家带孩子
: 了，不会出来害人。
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