c*****e
发帖数: 2073 | 1 From some ppl's observations, who have lived in some of the largest cities
in the States, have known thousands of hundreds of women in the LGBT
community as they have spent many years as a member, they states this as an
unbias reality of what they have observed thus far...70% of the Lesbians and
Bi women you date will eventually end up with men.
This is a difficult reality for real lesbians. It can be frustrating,
confusing, and downright pride devouring. It is, afterall, a heterosexual
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L******k
发帖数: 33825 | 2 人生啊~~人生
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【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: From some ppl's observations, who have lived in some of the largest cities
: in the States, have known thousands of hundreds of women in the LGBT
: community as they have spent many years as a member, they states this as an
: unbias reality of what they have observed thus far...70% of the Lesbians and
: Bi women you date will eventually end up with men.
: This is a difficult reality for real lesbians. It can be frustrating,
: confusing, and downright pride devouring. It is, afterall, a heterosexual
: world an
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c*****e
发帖数: 2073 | 3 I wish girls can be true to themselves and live authenticly, not lie to
themselves...otherwise they will never achieve peace and happiness. they
will only achieve mediocrity, complacency ,and won't be truly living just
surviving.
【在 L******k 的大作中提到】
: 人生啊~~人生
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e*******e
发帖数: 6165 | 4 well,
1）时代是变化的，若干年前都没有这么大的LGBT community，也许有拉拉一辈子都没
date过女人
2）这里面有多少是曾经date过女生的直女？
我们来做个简单的数学计算：
假设1：直女占人数95%，les占5%
假设2：date过女人的直女占直女的20%， date女人的les当然是100%
》一共有95%×20%+5%×1 = 24% 人date过女人
》其中 95%×20%=19%的直女最终嫁了男人
》19% 除以 24% = 79%
假设2：如果是10%
》一共有95%×10%+5%×1 = 14.5% 人date过女人
》其中 95%×10%=9.5%的直女最终嫁了男人
》9.5% 除以 14.5% = 69%
也就是说只要直女里面十个有一个date过女人，那么最终就有70%的女人嫁给了男人。
而在日益开放的社会环境下，10%应该是个reasonable的数字。
所以没有那么可怕啦。date归date，过日子还是得找真拉拉。
证明完毕。 |
c*****e
发帖数: 2073 | 5 我个人希望你的假设是成立的。但是假设中的数据来源是哪里？没有别的意思，只是希
望能做到尽量准确。不要盲目乐观。
【在 e*******e 的大作中提到】
: well,
: 1）时代是变化的，若干年前都没有这么大的LGBT community，也许有拉拉一辈子都没
: date过女人
: 2）这里面有多少是曾经date过女生的直女？
: 我们来做个简单的数学计算：
: 假设1：直女占人数95%，les占5%
: 假设2：date过女人的直女占直女的20%， date女人的les当然是100%
: 》一共有95%×20%+5%×1 = 24% 人date过女人
: 》其中 95%×20%=19%的直女最终嫁了男人
: 》19% 除以 24% = 79%
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e*******e
发帖数: 6165 | 6 我的数据没啥来源，5%的比例来自于常说的3%和10%，我取个中间值。
至于直女中有多少同性date经历的就纯属虚构，所以我说是‘假设’嘛
再少一点，就算5%的话，那也是50%的女人嫁人了。
女人还是比较有同性倾向的。
至于你转述里面说的70%， 也是纯个人经历的一个大概的数而已。
比方说我吧，date过2个女人（不好意思，样本太小，汗。。。）
至今都还没嫁男人呢 :D |
e*******e
发帖数: 6165 | 7 也有个好处，就是LGBT community不会有老龄化的问题 :)
永远是年轻人多，因为majority end up with men |
e*******e
发帖数: 6165 | 8 其实从常用的两个比例3%和10%来看，也是70%的差距。
大概3%是比较坚定的，10%是有比较大倾向的。
10%也叫十一率，是吧？记不清楚了，金赛老头讲的？ |
e*******e
发帖数: 6165 | 9 那些date过而没有settle down的，最终嫁了男人女人都没啥差别
因为对于个人来讲，只是要找‘the one'
过尽千帆是白帆是黑帆不打紧
cheer up~~~ |
c********k
发帖数: 500 | 10 俺还听说很多american gay men结婚生子，然后在外面找男淫捏~~
俺觉得跟gay men还是gay women无关，只要你是gay，就很麻烦，路忒难走咧~~ |
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p**b
发帖数: 1808 | 11 请问您的 some ppl 又是哪些？您的70%又是哪些？
没有别的意思，只是希望能做到尽量准确，不要盲目悲观。
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我个人希望你的假设是成立的。但是假设中的数据来源是哪里？没有别的意思，只是希
: 望能做到尽量准确。不要盲目乐观。
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p**b
发帖数: 1808 | 12 我喜欢你的英语
所谓的数字都是个样子，像模像样的让大家去看，我觉得更多的是起到警惕提示的作用
，并不代表普遍性和绝对性。
一件事情发生了，那就是100%，没发生的话，就算曾经多close发生，还是0。
100%的人都会死呢，难道因为我们知道这个事情的发生，就啥都不做了？
将来如何，没人知道，也没人能为别人的将来做预测。
也许很多LES最后会和男人结婚，这并不代表LES们需要担心顾虑，没 try hard之前，
不能被所谓的主流给吓退了。
LZ，你的70%也只是眼前的几十年，你能否看到将来的情况呢？你是否又看到和过去相
比，这剩下的区区30%的意义呢。
当然，你的本意是好的，只不过有点negative。我喜欢你的英语，嘿嘿，不过别太长，
太长看不动了就。
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【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: From some ppl's observations, who have lived in some of the largest cities
: in the States, have known thousands of hundreds of women in the LGBT
: community as they have spent many years as a member, they states this as an
: unbias reality of what they have observed thus far...70% of the Lesbians and
: Bi women you date will eventually end up with men.
: This is a difficult reality for real lesbians. It can be frustrating,
: confusing, and downright pride devouring. It is, afterall, a heterosexual
: world an
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R*****G
发帖数: 1665 | 13 楼主最近感情遇到低谷了？ 拍拍。-----------认真说，能被进入旁人观察视野的，
都是比较活跃的les couples。据我长期观察，les couples中比较低调的，关系相
对稳定。我认识的大陆的两对分别为9年和12的les couples，大体处于隐世的生活
方式，从不去les bars，生活中除了这两对互相认识外，偶尔聚在一起吃吃饭，也
没有其他les friends。
我没有影射活跃的les couples的意思，但是，现代这个社会，道德感日益低下，而
les 又缺少婚姻的保护，很容易散伙。有些人被伤了心，就觉得嫁给男人，至少还
可以有一份稳定的保证。 |
s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 14 找个和你一样想法的人就行了，就没必要替其他嫁给男人的拉拉担心了。
这个问题我已经很少想了。
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【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: From some ppl's observations, who have lived in some of the largest cities
: in the States, have known thousands of hundreds of women in the LGBT
: community as they have spent many years as a member, they states this as an
: unbias reality of what they have observed thus far...70% of the Lesbians and
: Bi women you date will eventually end up with men.
: This is a difficult reality for real lesbians. It can be frustrating,
: confusing, and downright pride devouring. It is, afterall, a heterosexual
: world an
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s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 15 may I ask how old are you?
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【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: From some ppl's observations, who have lived in some of the largest cities
: in the States, have known thousands of hundreds of women in the LGBT
: community as they have spent many years as a member, they states this as an
: unbias reality of what they have observed thus far...70% of the Lesbians and
: Bi women you date will eventually end up with men.
: This is a difficult reality for real lesbians. It can be frustrating,
: confusing, and downright pride devouring. It is, afterall, a heterosexual
: world an
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c*****e
发帖数: 2073 | 16 May I ask what it has to do with my age? I was quoting other's obeservations
, who has been working in the GLBT community for years. unfortunately she's
not on this site tho.
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: may I ask how old are you?
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c*****e
发帖数: 2073 | 17 哈哈，这个角度很独特！！
【在 e*******e 的大作中提到】
: 也有个好处，就是LGBT community不会有老龄化的问题 :)
: 永远是年轻人多，因为majority end up with men
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s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 18 But I saw many old lesbians in bay area.... I doubt about this.
【在 e*******e 的大作中提到】
: 也有个好处，就是LGBT community不会有老龄化的问题 :)
: 永远是年轻人多，因为majority end up with men
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c*****e
发帖数: 2073 | 19 谢谢关心！我只是在转述别人的一个观点，与个人感情没什么联系的。
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】
: 楼主最近感情遇到低谷了？ 拍拍。-----------认真说，能被进入旁人观察视野的，
: 都是比较活跃的les couples。据我长期观察，les couples中比较低调的，关系相
: 对稳定。我认识的大陆的两对分别为9年和12的les couples，大体处于隐世的生活
: 方式，从不去les bars，生活中除了这两对互相认识外，偶尔聚在一起吃吃饭，也
: 没有其他les friends。
: 我没有影射活跃的les couples的意思，但是，现代这个社会，道德感日益低下，而
: les 又缺少婚姻的保护，很容易散伙。有些人被伤了心，就觉得嫁给男人，至少还
: 可以有一份稳定的保证。
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c*****e
发帖数: 2073 | 20 说到底怎么生活都是自己选的。自己的路还要自己走
【在 c********k 的大作中提到】
: 俺还听说很多american gay men结婚生子，然后在外面找男淫捏~~
: 俺觉得跟gay men还是gay women无关，只要你是gay，就很麻烦，路忒难走咧~~
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c*****e
发帖数: 2073 | 21 Well, 70% is just a rough estimation but it is relatively accurate when
considering the hundreds of LBGT women she has known over 15 years. However,
no scientific/statistical fact based certainties here, just calling it as
she has seen it.
【在 p**b 的大作中提到】
: 请问您的 some ppl 又是哪些？您的70%又是哪些？
: 没有别的意思，只是希望能做到尽量准确，不要盲目悲观。
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X*******H
发帖数: 720 | 22 The thing is
most people do just surviving......
sigh
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: I wish girls can be true to themselves and live authenticly, not lie to
: themselves...otherwise they will never achieve peace and happiness. they
: will only achieve mediocrity, complacency ,and won't be truly living just
: surviving.
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c*****e
发帖数: 2073 | 23 that's exactly why I posted this thread, to bring it to a conscious level.
anyways it's just an idea. they have to make the decision. we can't choose
for them neh.
【在 X*******H 的大作中提到】
: The thing is
: most people do just surviving......
: sigh
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y********k
发帖数: 677 | 24 Frankly, I don't see anything discouraging in this statistic. I mean, bi
women have their right to choose whoever they want to spend their lives
with, be it a woman or a guy. We should respect their choices the same
way we want others to respect our choices to be with women.
Now from the perspective of a die hard lesbian we simply need to be
aware of the fact that when we date a bi woman there is an extra layer
of complexity and uncertainty. The worst scenario is when the above
mentioned wary ac
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: From some ppl's observations, who have lived in some of the largest cities
: in the States, have known thousands of hundreds of women in the LGBT
: community as they have spent many years as a member, they states this as an
: unbias reality of what they have observed thus far...70% of the Lesbians and
: Bi women you date will eventually end up with men.
: This is a difficult reality for real lesbians. It can be frustrating,
: confusing, and downright pride devouring. It is, afterall, a heterosexual
: world an
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c*****e
发帖数: 2073 | 25 I'm glad that you brought the kinsey scale up. And I believe in sexual
fluidity, like the kinsey says. maybe these women go out with men after
being with women because in their mind they didnt completely cross men off
the list. Let me clear this up. I respect every one's choice on everything.
I do not judge anyone for doing anything.
I understand this is an open forum and everyone has different perspectives
and viewpoints. People are definitely entitled to their own opinion. I don't
want anyone
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
: Frankly, I don't see anything discouraging in this statistic. I mean, bi
: women have their right to choose whoever they want to spend their lives
: with, be it a woman or a guy. We should respect their choices the same
: way we want others to respect our choices to be with women.
: Now from the perspective of a die hard lesbian we simply need to be
: aware of the fact that when we date a bi woman there is an extra layer
: of complexity and uncertainty. The worst scenario is when the above
: mentioned wary ac
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