z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 1 4步最省料最省时间的laminate/engineered wood安装妙法 |
z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 2 How can you have almost zero waste when you install laminate or engineered
wood flooring? The laminate flooring salespeople recommend allowing for at
least 5% waste. Still, when I installed the flooring from left to right,
often I found the right plank was too short and I had to undo the whole row
and start all over again. Thus even figuring I will waste 5% of materials (
thus money), I can not guarantee I will not also waste time.
In this video, I will show you a very easy simple 4-step process that will
not only allow you to save the material (the money) but also the time. In
fact, the layout of the whole room can be predicted before the actual
installation. |
z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 3 how did you do your laminate floor last time? |
b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 4 we didn't do our laminate, amigos came and played mariyachi
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: how did you do your laminate floor last time?
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 5 I will make a few more videos to show you how easy it is to install laminate
flooring.
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: we didn't do our laminate, amigos came and played mariyachi
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b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 6 I agree that from pov of techniques and skills reqiured，DIY installing
those click n go flooring planks is pretty easy. but, when factoring the
amount of work, time and laborious factor, it may not be worth the hassle. I
am looking at hand a job to replace laminate in a basement, and tearing
down the existing flooring, hauling all the shit up stairs and dumping it,
carrying the new underpayment and 70 cartons of the flooring back down the
steps...... this simple physical labor and repetitive nature just driving me
nuts.
if you enjoy doing this shit - power to you
laminate
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: I will make a few more videos to show you how easy it is to install laminate
: flooring.
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 7 if it is your own basement and you don't have the time pressure, then it
can be physical and mental exercise. People in this country has overweight
problem. Last time when I did my own hardwood floor, I did two rows per day.
I agree it is physically demanding, but when there is no time pressure, it
is not a big deal, you don't lose anything.
I
me
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: I agree that from pov of techniques and skills reqiured，DIY installing
: those click n go flooring planks is pretty easy. but, when factoring the
: amount of work, time and laborious factor, it may not be worth the hassle. I
: am looking at hand a job to replace laminate in a basement, and tearing
: down the existing flooring, hauling all the shit up stairs and dumping it,
: carrying the new underpayment and 70 cartons of the flooring back down the
: steps...... this simple physical labor and repetitive nature just driving me
: nuts.
: if you enjoy doing this shit - power to you
:
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b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 8 a few points I am making on your statement as well as your method:
1. to start with, most folks do home improvements to enhance the quality of
living, such as changing flooring and remodeling. if you leave your home in
such a mess for weeks to months before you can finish what you started and
restore your living - it defeats the purpose of doing it
2. there is little in your method that can be deemed as new revelation. it
all boils down to a good planning ahead, and planning each every move. your
awkward terminology only adds to confusion
3. in your video, you are promoting a method to cut one plank into 3+ pieces
to reduce waste. this method has a fatal flaw against a float floor
installation, the cut piece with no groove or tongue can't be used in such
installation scheme.
day.
it
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: if it is your own basement and you don't have the time pressure, then it
: can be physical and mental exercise. People in this country has overweight
: problem. Last time when I did my own hardwood floor, I did two rows per day.
: I agree it is physically demanding, but when there is no time pressure, it
: is not a big deal, you don't lose anything.
:
: I
: me
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 9 1. agree with you if you don't want the mess. My wife can tolerate it, but
this is not for everyone. My kids enjoyed such mess:
2. I don't think you have done this, you really don't know what you are
talking about. I wasted a lot of time initially when actually doing it (I
know I am very stupid, did not figure it out early). No other people have
discussed this before. I am sharing it here with everyone to save everyone's
time and money.
3. I don't think you understand the method. Who said cutting one piece into
3+ pieces? Do you really think I installed the floor without tongue and
groove? My installation scheme is the optimal scheme, optimal means, no
other people can be better than mine (the best they can do is as good as in
terms of saving money and time). This is the first scheme in this world.
4. many years ago, when I did the hardwood floor, I may have some very minor
mistakes (but the above video is perfect, there is no fatal flaw, not even
minor flaw), if you think you know this stuff, try to view the following to
see if you may spot any minor flaw:
of
in
your
pieces
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: a few points I am making on your statement as well as your method:
: 1. to start with, most folks do home improvements to enhance the quality of
: living, such as changing flooring and remodeling. if you leave your home in
: such a mess for weeks to months before you can finish what you started and
: restore your living - it defeats the purpose of doing it
: 2. there is little in your method that can be deemed as new revelation. it
: all boils down to a good planning ahead, and planning each every move. your
: awkward terminology only adds to confusion
: 3. in your video, you are promoting a method to cut one plank into 3+ pieces
: to reduce waste. this method has a fatal flaw against a float floor
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F**0
发帖数: 5004 | 10 这种应该可以写个程序， 输入房间大小， 一条 plank的大小， 自动算出最合理的安
装妙法。 |
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 11 good idea, 同意。 但这只是最初估计，这APP应该可随时调整， 因为
1. a lot of time you make mistakes cutting
2. the room may not be squared.
3. so currently the algorithm is very accurate for the current row, for
the whole house, it is only estimate.
【在 F**0 的大作中提到】
: 这种应该可以写个程序， 输入房间大小， 一条 plank的大小， 自动算出最合理的安
: 装妙法。
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | |
b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 13 lmao
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: 是原创。我是世界上第一推出这妙法
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 14 I only did google search and youtube search. If you can prove that this is
not true, I will take what I said back.
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: lmao
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y****i
发帖数: 12114 | 15 省钱是有可能的，省时间就未必，是否美观也见仁见智。 |
z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 16 yangyi》省时间就未必:
我视频里谈的非常详细，为什么你用多花钱在安装时省不了时间，您没看懂
吗？
yangyi》是否美观也见仁见智:
这视频为了预见，不美更能帮助你省时省料的改那！您还是没有
把这视频看透吧？
【在 y****i 的大作中提到】
: 省钱是有可能的，省时间就未必，是否美观也见仁见智。
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y****i
发帖数: 12114 | 17 你都没把完工的情况拍出来，说服力不够啊。
而且，你觉得你这个方法比现有的安装方法先进在哪里？做了个模板？
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: yangyi》省时间就未必:
: 我视频里谈的非常详细，为什么你用多花钱在安装时省不了时间，您没看懂
: 吗？
: yangyi》是否美观也见仁见智:
: 这视频为了预见，不美更能帮助你省时省料的改那！您还是没有
: 把这视频看透吧？
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 18 yangyi> 你都没把完工的情况拍出来，说服力不够啊。
要拍什样的场面才能 说服？
怎么这版的牛人都哪里去了？ 没几个人能看到这法的好处？
yangyi> 这个方法比现有的安装方法先进在哪里？
1. you have agreed that this method save your money, so this is one
advantage.
2. save your time:
my new method: in 2 seconds, without laying planks, you will know what it
looks like， whether there is problem.
old method: when you reach the end of row, you either go to the next row
or you remove your current row and start all over again, wasting your time.
【在 y****i 的大作中提到】
: 你都没把完工的情况拍出来，说服力不够啊。
: 而且，你觉得你这个方法比现有的安装方法先进在哪里？做了个模板？
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j******f
发帖数: 2109 | 19 我没铺过，只发表下看法。你视频就是用纸板比划好，算下尽量把剩下的板用掉
我觉得为好看，经常故意互相错开，不是简单的算数。
另外，我不明白为什么不可以直接算。要这样比划。
如果我铺，先一行。剩下的切割后，铺到第二行第一个。第二行末尾再切。剩下的第三
行第一个。这样错落有致，而且浪费最少。
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: 4步最省料最省时间的laminate/engineered wood安装妙法
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j******f
发帖数: 2109 | 20 让我想起来工作中老板非要建议我们用他整出来的办法。也说世界第一。我想，改变业
界通用办法总有原因，毕竟天天干这个的海了去了。
后来被逼急了，读了些文献。老板的办法实际上是20年前被淘汰的，有本质问题。好在
我没有听他瞎指挥。
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: yangyi> 你都没把完工的情况拍出来，说服力不够啊。
: 要拍什样的场面才能 说服？
: 怎么这版的牛人都哪里去了？ 没几个人能看到这法的好处？
: yangyi> 这个方法比现有的安装方法先进在哪里？
: 1. you have agreed that this method save your money, so this is one
: advantage.
: 2. save your time:
: my new method: in 2 seconds, without laying planks, you will know what it
: looks like， whether there is problem.
: old method: when you reach the end of row, you either go to the next row
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 21 jimatssf> 如果我铺，先一行。剩下的切割后，铺到第二行第一个。第二行末尾再切
你的铺法的问题， 当你 “第二行末尾再切” 的时候发现错了怎么办？ 不大大浪费时
间吗？我花了大篇幅讲 “8 inch rule” and "wrong way to save time"。
【在 j******f 的大作中提到】
: 我没铺过，只发表下看法。你视频就是用纸板比划好，算下尽量把剩下的板用掉
: 我觉得为好看，经常故意互相错开，不是简单的算数。
: 另外，我不明白为什么不可以直接算。要这样比划。
: 如果我铺，先一行。剩下的切割后，铺到第二行第一个。第二行末尾再切。剩下的第三
: 行第一个。这样错落有致，而且浪费最少。
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j******f
发帖数: 2109 | 22 你视频罗里罗嗦，你8inch错了咋办？
我的办法就没有错的。就算你切错了，放到下一行开始就好了。没有任何浪费。
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: jimatssf> 如果我铺，先一行。剩下的切割后，铺到第二行第一个。第二行末尾再切
: 你的铺法的问题， 当你 “第二行末尾再切” 的时候发现错了怎么办？ 不大大浪费时
: 间吗？我花了大篇幅讲 “8 inch rule” and "wrong way to save time"。
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 23 jimatssf 呀 jimatssf 呀， 您气杀我了。
你可放到“下”一行 (next row)， 但你这一行有错（本行有错，current row is
wrong ）， 你对 current row 咋办？
【在 j******f 的大作中提到】
: 你视频罗里罗嗦，你8inch错了咋办？
: 我的办法就没有错的。就算你切错了，放到下一行开始就好了。没有任何浪费。
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j******f
发帖数: 2109 | 24 又看了一遍，没觉得你办法有什么神奇的
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: jimatssf> 如果我铺，先一行。剩下的切割后，铺到第二行第一个。第二行末尾再切
: 你的铺法的问题， 当你 “第二行末尾再切” 的时候发现错了怎么办？ 不大大浪费时
: 间吗？我花了大篇幅讲 “8 inch rule” and "wrong way to save time"。
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j******f
发帖数: 2109 | 25 什么叫有错？
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: jimatssf 呀 jimatssf 呀， 您气杀我了。
: 你可放到“下”一行 (next row)， 但你这一行有错（本行有错，current row is
: wrong ）， 你对 current row 咋办？
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 26 第二行末尾 right end piece is too small
【在 j******f 的大作中提到】
: 什么叫有错？
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j******f
发帖数: 2109 | 27 嫌小的不好看，可以交换到中间。
多小是小？你的卧室就差2寸，你怎么办？不一样有个两寸的边？
自然的
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: 第二行末尾 right end piece is too small
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 28 你老板没敢在全世界大叫，我全世界第一的 喊 有酬 的 挑战 I will give you money
in this challenge. 怎样，敢不敢？ 你赢了我付你钱， 你输了 只是我一高兴而已：
【在 j******f 的大作中提到】
: 让我想起来工作中老板非要建议我们用他整出来的办法。也说世界第一。我想，改变业
: 界通用办法总有原因，毕竟天天干这个的海了去了。
: 后来被逼急了，读了些文献。老板的办法实际上是20年前被淘汰的，有本质问题。好在
: 我没有听他瞎指挥。
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 29 1. you can not switch to the middle, you lose the tongue and groove.
2. 两寸的right end piece is too small. This is NOT about 好看, this is
structure requirement.
Keeping 两寸的right end piece is wrong way to save time.
【在 j******f 的大作中提到】
: 嫌小的不好看，可以交换到中间。
: 多小是小？你的卧室就差2寸，你怎么办？不一样有个两寸的边？
: 自然的
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j******f
发帖数: 2109 | 30 你伶不清。
我专业里的发明也一打了。有必要也发个挑战吗？估计你都看不懂。
money
已：
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: 你老板没敢在全世界大叫，我全世界第一的 喊 有酬 的 挑战 I will give you money
: in this challenge. 怎样，敢不敢？ 你赢了我付你钱， 你输了 只是我一高兴而已：
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 31 you need to watch another time
【在 j******f 的大作中提到】
: 又看了一遍，没觉得你办法有什么神奇的
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 32 俺这个不专， 大学的学生看懂。
我这laminate floor installation ， 不用上过大学的可看懂.
【在 j******f 的大作中提到】
: 你伶不清。
: 我专业里的发明也一打了。有必要也发个挑战吗？估计你都看不懂。
:
: money
: 已：
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j******f
发帖数: 2109 | 33 you just enjoy smelling your own fart. good luck
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: you need to watch another time
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 34 sorry, did not mean to offend you.
Hope all people here share things they know and learn from each other.
【在 j******f 的大作中提到】
: you just enjoy smelling your own fart. good luck
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b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 35 like I said before, the workers typically do this type of planning and
plotting in their minds before they approach the row of new length, it's
their trade. I observed them making those adjustments and have chatted with
a few, they may not explain using the terms you fabricated, but the same
essence.
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: 1. you can not switch to the middle, you lose the tongue and groove.
: 2. 两寸的right end piece is too small. This is NOT about 好看, this is
: structure requirement.
: Keeping 两寸的right end piece is wrong way to save time.
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y****i
发帖数: 12114 | 36 我可没说你这个方法一定省钱啊，你别乱说。
it
row
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: yangyi> 你都没把完工的情况拍出来，说服力不够啊。
: 要拍什样的场面才能 说服？
: 怎么这版的牛人都哪里去了？ 没几个人能看到这法的好处？
: yangyi> 这个方法比现有的安装方法先进在哪里？
: 1. you have agreed that this method save your money, so this is one
: advantage.
: 2. save your time:
: my new method: in 2 seconds, without laying planks, you will know what it
: looks like， whether there is problem.
: old method: when you reach the end of row, you either go to the next row
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 37 I agree, they must have something to use, but I noticed they
waste a lot of materials. Don't know if they save the time or not, I assume
since they are professional, they must care about the time. However for any
non-professional like me, I really had to spend the time to study this. I
had experimented using a few different ways to save the time, however I
found the human error was also a major factor, i.e. you just make your cut
the wrong length or left and right messed up. Thus I presented the template
way in this video. In any case what ever the professional are using, they
are not sharing because I did google search and youtube search, I did not
find anything.
with
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: like I said before, the workers typically do this type of planning and
: plotting in their minds before they approach the row of new length, it's
: their trade. I observed them making those adjustments and have chatted with
: a few, they may not explain using the terms you fabricated, but the same
: essence.
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 38 你别乱说了， 你根本没有看这视频，连几秒都没看， 因为在35秒之内我有拍我省的结
果。
【在 y****i 的大作中提到】
: 我可没说你这个方法一定省钱啊，你别乱说。
:
: it
: row
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b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 39 well, for the hired guns they only do what motivates them to get things done
quickly. in projects with fixed cost and everything included, I actually
observed them saving the material meticulously - since they can keep the
leftover to themselves.
assume
any
template
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: I agree, they must have something to use, but I noticed they
: waste a lot of materials. Don't know if they save the time or not, I assume
: since they are professional, they must care about the time. However for any
: non-professional like me, I really had to spend the time to study this. I
: had experimented using a few different ways to save the time, however I
: found the human error was also a major factor, i.e. you just make your cut
: the wrong length or left and right messed up. Thus I presented the template
: way in this video. In any case what ever the professional are using, they
: are not sharing because I did google search and youtube search, I did not
: find anything.
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 40 do you think it is possible that they do not know the optimal solution and
they used sub-optimal?
The optimal solution I presented here is:
1. almost zero material waste (professional says 5%)
2. 1-second template compare check (I really doubt anyone else can come up
with less time than this).
done
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: well, for the hired guns they only do what motivates them to get things done
: quickly. in projects with fixed cost and everything included, I actually
: observed them saving the material meticulously - since they can keep the
: leftover to themselves.
:
: assume
: any
: template
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b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 41 I can't run a quantifiable analysis, since I didn't have two projects of the
same floor plan to run a comparison study, neither did I have the
opportunity and enthusiasm to measure and record.
but I can experiment with the basement project I have at hand when I get a
chance. anyways I believe high effiency and ultimate costsaving are two
conflicting goals that can be balanced but impossible to achieve at the same
time.
up
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: do you think it is possible that they do not know the optimal solution and
: they used sub-optimal?
: The optimal solution I presented here is:
: 1. almost zero material waste (professional says 5%)
: 2. 1-second template compare check (I really doubt anyone else can come up
: with less time than this).
:
: done
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 42 beijingdaddy> high effiency and ultimate costsaving are two conflicting
goals
My point is that people have the believe "high effiency and ultimate
costsaving are two conflicting goals", I am just presenting my result
showing this is not true in this situation. In this situation, you shoot two
birds with one bullet.
It is possible those hired guns used some methods passed by other people, or
they just think this a inherent problem in the business without solution (
everyone wastes that 5% because everyone says so).
In contrary I started the solution with the modulo operation (math). So I
did
not start with zero knowledge, I got help from mathematics.
the
same
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: I can't run a quantifiable analysis, since I didn't have two projects of the
: same floor plan to run a comparison study, neither did I have the
: opportunity and enthusiasm to measure and record.
: but I can experiment with the basement project I have at hand when I get a
: chance. anyways I believe high effiency and ultimate costsaving are two
: conflicting goals that can be balanced but impossible to achieve at the same
: time.
:
: up
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 43 below is another one of my experiments in my project. Initially I invented
this method to save material (only material you still waste the time). The
problem with this initial method is that
it is an "after the fact" method, after you have made error, it tried to
minimize the waste. The better solution, or the optimal solution would help
you to prevent the waste from happening. So now I use the second solution as
a complement, in the case you made an error. |
z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 44 以下的问题都回答了吧？ 还有什么问题？
=============================================
there is little in your method that can be deemed as new revelation.
你办法有什么神奇的？
全世界第一， 哪有老中第一的时候？lmao
省钱是有可能的，省时间就未必
high effiency and ultimate costsaving are two conflicting goals
============================================= |
b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 45 sure， you come down and do my basement to prove it then. fair enuff?
two
or
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: beijingdaddy> high effiency and ultimate costsaving are two conflicting
: goals
: My point is that people have the believe "high effiency and ultimate
: costsaving are two conflicting goals", I am just presenting my result
: showing this is not true in this situation. In this situation, you shoot two
: birds with one bullet.
: It is possible those hired guns used some methods passed by other people, or
: they just think this a inherent problem in the business without solution (
: everyone wastes that 5% because everyone says so).
: In contrary I started the solution with the modulo operation (math). So I
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 46 this video should already saved a lot of time and trouble. I am still going
through a few hundred Gbytes of video files. There are some tricks that
would save you more time and trouble, I will finish the editing soon.
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: sure， you come down and do my basement to prove it then. fair enuff?
:
: two
: or
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 47 a new one:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Living/33698575.html
going
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: this video should already saved a lot of time and trouble. I am still going
: through a few hundred Gbytes of video files. There are some tricks that
: would save you more time and trouble, I will finish the editing soon.
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k**u
发帖数: 10502 | 48 老张堪比老邱，办事又快又好，估计全美国懂这个诀窍的不超过三个人。
明天研究一下。
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: 4步最省料最省时间的laminate/engineered wood安装妙法
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 49 谢谢。 这版来的人越来越少。 我所有原创，不论多好， 没有一个在这版上置顶的。
【在 k**u 的大作中提到】
: 老张堪比老邱，办事又快又好，估计全美国懂这个诀窍的不超过三个人。
: 明天研究一下。
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k**u
发帖数: 10502 | 50 我今天看了一遍，最复杂的那步，好像是第三步没看懂。
可能得再看一遍琢磨下才能理解。
你也可以换个解说方法。
。
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢。 这版来的人越来越少。 我所有原创，不论多好， 没有一个在这版上置顶的。
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b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 51 看了老张的低矮歪地板工具的介绍大家也不会把期望值订的过高了
【在 k**u 的大作中提到】
: 我今天看了一遍，最复杂的那步，好像是第三步没看懂。
: 可能得再看一遍琢磨下才能理解。
: 你也可以换个解说方法。
:
: 。
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 52 in the video's description (the text description when you visit the video's
youtube link ), the link is here:
https://youtu.be/W04oIH7o5RE
I have the following that may help you in understanding:
Note that this video uses the classical installation from left to right.
Even though the left piece is shown placed at right end for measurement, it
is just for measurement, you should not install the left piece at the right
end, you should not cut the left piece again. The installation is as follows:
A. place the left piece at the left end.
B. place a new standard length plank next to the left piece.
C. if the new standard length plank reaches the right wall, then cut this
new standard length plank to fit the current row. This cutting would yield
one right piece for the current row, and a new left piece for a new row. (
The video showed the equation new_left=old_left-custom to compute the new_
left length, it does imply you actually cut the old_left. The new_left is
obtained by cutting the new standard length plank).
D. the video focuses on predicating waste, if you need to know the new left
length, then see the equation below
if old_left＞custom, then new_left=old_left-custom
if old_left＜custom, then new_left=old_left-custom+standard
【在 k**u 的大作中提到】
: 我今天看了一遍，最复杂的那步，好像是第三步没看懂。
: 可能得再看一遍琢磨下才能理解。
: 你也可以换个解说方法。
:
: 。
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 53 我说的明明白白的为了省钱省时间， 您把方法学到了吗？ 您欣赏期望谁呢？ 您除了
能耐高可以雇别人做，自己您可以做什么呢？
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: 看了老张的低矮歪地板工具的介绍大家也不会把期望值订的过高了
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b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 54 You can sit in your little circle of world and enjoy touting the hell of
your shitty invention. We are just enjoying watching your dance |
z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 55 I am not sure why you hate so much someone's invention. If you have a better
idea, or if you know someone else has a better idea, you are welcome to
share and to contribute.
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: You can sit in your little circle of world and enjoy touting the hell of
: your shitty invention. We are just enjoying watching your dance
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b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 56 I have made my points clear to you, yet you insist on touting your world NO.
1 despite others opinion and statements. in your eyes whoever doesn't agree
with you is hater; and that makes you none other than a joke.
better
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: I am not sure why you hate so much someone's invention. If you have a better
: idea, or if you know someone else has a better idea, you are welcome to
: share and to contribute.
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 57 you are welcome to contribute and share your ideas. People have different
methods. People can debate and argue. The indication of hate comes from your
specific word of "your shitty invention". Maybe I am too sensitive, isn't
this hate? Do you have anything specific about my "shitty invention", i.e.,
which part is wrong or worse than yours or other people's method?
I have made my points clear to you, yet you insist on touting your world NO.
agree
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: I have made my points clear to you, yet you insist on touting your world NO.
: 1 despite others opinion and statements. in your eyes whoever doesn't agree
: with you is hater; and that makes you none other than a joke.
:
: better
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b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 58 that's just my honest opinion - I am sorry for my bluntnes, but I honestly
don't know how to sugarcoat it without infringe your sensitive feelings.
BTW, this a frigging BBS message portal, if you post your videos aiming to
gain clicks and popularity, then be prepared for different voices and wind
blown the ways other than what you'd like.
peace out.
your
,
NO.
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: you are welcome to contribute and share your ideas. People have different
: methods. People can debate and argue. The indication of hate comes from your
: specific word of "your shitty invention". Maybe I am too sensitive, isn't
: this hate? Do you have anything specific about my "shitty invention", i.e.,
: which part is wrong or worse than yours or other people's method?
:
: I have made my points clear to you, yet you insist on touting your world NO.
: agree
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y****i
发帖数: 12114 | 59 不用纠结于我看没看你的视频。我说我看了好几遍，你说我没看，这争不出结果。
我的意思是：我没有说你的方法一定省钱。这和我看没看你的视频没有关系，也和你有
总结没关系。你的总结不是我的总结，对吧？而且那结果是你计算出来的，实际怎样你
也未必清楚吧。
平心静气地说，你的方法相比普遍使用的方法有什么特别的？我看到你做了个模板（这
模板的精度暂且不论），发明了几个名词，但是这些有必要么？
最后，我还是要说，你没有展示最终的施工结果，那对于观众来说就还是纸上谈兵，说
服力不够。
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: 你别乱说了， 你根本没有看这视频，连几秒都没看， 因为在35秒之内我有拍我省的结
: 果。
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 60 my point is the discussion of the specific algorithm, which part is wrong or
worse than yours or other people's method? This is what most people
visiting this forum is for, people come here to share information or to
learn things. The algorithm is very objective, either it is shitty or not.
If it is shitty, don't I deserve to know why it is shitty (the objective
reason not the subjective reason)?
that's just my honest opinion - I am sorry for my bluntnes, but I honestly
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: that's just my honest opinion - I am sorry for my bluntnes, but I honestly
: don't know how to sugarcoat it without infringe your sensitive feelings.
: BTW, this a frigging BBS message portal, if you post your videos aiming to
: gain clicks and popularity, then be prepared for different voices and wind
: blown the ways other than what you'd like.
: peace out.
:
: your
: ,
: NO.
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 61 我是在真正做的时候用的纸板当模具，这不是纸上谈兵。 实际结果在视频里有拍， 您
没有看，或不信我也没办法。
【在 y****i 的大作中提到】
: 不用纠结于我看没看你的视频。我说我看了好几遍，你说我没看，这争不出结果。
: 我的意思是：我没有说你的方法一定省钱。这和我看没看你的视频没有关系，也和你有
: 总结没关系。你的总结不是我的总结，对吧？而且那结果是你计算出来的，实际怎样你
: 也未必清楚吧。
: 平心静气地说，你的方法相比普遍使用的方法有什么特别的？我看到你做了个模板（这
: 模板的精度暂且不论），发明了几个名词，但是这些有必要么？
: 最后，我还是要说，你没有展示最终的施工结果，那对于观众来说就还是纸上谈兵，说
: 服力不够。
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 62 this method saved me too much time and material. I have two extra laminate
boxes un-opened. I am selling them for $1 per square feet. |
z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 63 Selling 12mm laminate floor planks $0.64/sqft
There are two boxes leftover unopened, each is 15.72 sqft.
They are made in USA using Europian and North American components.
I used these exact laminate planks to make these videos:
https://youtu.be/ZG6UoxEta1I
https://youtu.be/W04oIH7o5RE (the reason that there are two boxes leftover)
https://youtu.be/qXlEnnbxLn0
(the reason that there are two boxes leftover)
http://trypros.com/12mm-laminate-floor-planks-0-64sqft/ |
p******s
发帖数: 2552 | 64 刚看到这个帖子，好奇去看了下youtube视频，表达能力有待提高，简单的道理讲得有
点啰嗦。另外就是转化为数学问题的话，你的方法其实是有漏洞的，这个问题来自于一
开始就少列举了两种情况。
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: 4步最省料最省时间的laminate/engineered wood安装妙法
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 65 I would be interested in your version to explain it, under 8 minutes. Let us
know. Thanks.
Note, this youtube video is the FIRST in the world to attempt to explain it.
From the comments of this thread here, you can see people even did not
understand the 8 inch rule, even though I had explained it in the video for
a few minutes.
If you notice in the video, from the cardboard on the floor, I have written
multiple conditions on the cardboard, however after many hours editing and
trying to shorten the video, I came the the realization that some of the
conditions can be generalized to others. I have also left some comments in
the video descriptions to help people to understand it.
【在 p******s 的大作中提到】
: 刚看到这个帖子，好奇去看了下youtube视频，表达能力有待提高，简单的道理讲得有
: 点啰嗦。另外就是转化为数学问题的话，你的方法其实是有漏洞的，这个问题来自于一
: 开始就少列举了两种情况。
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M**2
发帖数: 1121 | 66 刚 kitchen 铺了 vinyl plank floor 和 客厅 laminate, 不过是请师傅做的，自己没
有那个本事。
没想到师傅说 laminate 不怎么费事， vinyl plank 非常费事。看着 vinyl plank 软
软的，没想到这么难装。
敬仰一下楼主大牛人，自己动手，还和大家分享。
回帖挑刺的就算了。楼主这么能干又热心。那些跳刺的，把你们做的也分享一下再说别
人。 |
p******s
发帖数: 2552 | 67 不就是个简单的数学问题 yn=axn+bn
n为房间数量，a为每条laminate长度，b是补充的长度
假设c为required minimum length in the end
最后就是求最小waste
如果a，b，c是定值的话基本就是初中生数学问题，复杂点先讨论下b的几个可能性先
熟练工心中有数就行了，没兴趣拍视频陪你玩
us
it.
for
written
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: I would be interested in your version to explain it, under 8 minutes. Let us
: know. Thanks.
: Note, this youtube video is the FIRST in the world to attempt to explain it.
: From the comments of this thread here, you can see people even did not
: understand the 8 inch rule, even though I had explained it in the video for
: a few minutes.
: If you notice in the video, from the cardboard on the floor, I have written
: multiple conditions on the cardboard, however after many hours editing and
: trying to shorten the video, I came the the realization that some of the
: conditions can be generalized to others. I have also left some comments in
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 68 You only tried to define the problem and saying it is so simple that it is
middle school kids problem. So what is your solution to this problem?
i.e., what is your algorithm? Step 1, 2, 3?
【在 p******s 的大作中提到】
: 不就是个简单的数学问题 yn=axn+bn
: n为房间数量，a为每条laminate长度，b是补充的长度
: 假设c为required minimum length in the end
: 最后就是求最小waste
: 如果a，b，c是定值的话基本就是初中生数学问题，复杂点先讨论下b的几个可能性先
: 熟练工心中有数就行了，没兴趣拍视频陪你玩
:
: us
: it.
: for
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p******s
发帖数: 2552 | 69 我是在帮你simplify，看不惯你用蹩脚英语自卖自夸，别太上脸了，你的视频也就是版
上人替你看看，老美直接当垃圾了
【在 z*****8 的大作中提到】
: You only tried to define the problem and saying it is so simple that it is
: middle school kids problem. So what is your solution to this problem?
: i.e., what is your algorithm? Step 1, 2, 3?
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b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 70 Vinyl plank 要用fiberglass core的，比较硬敲打方便。便宜的软软的有点麻烦，尤
其是plank比较长
【在 M**2 的大作中提到】
: 刚 kitchen 铺了 vinyl plank floor 和 客厅 laminate, 不过是请师傅做的，自己没
: 有那个本事。
: 没想到师傅说 laminate 不怎么费事， vinyl plank 非常费事。看着 vinyl plank 软
: 软的，没想到这么难装。
: 敬仰一下楼主大牛人，自己动手，还和大家分享。
: 回帖挑刺的就算了。楼主这么能干又热心。那些跳刺的，把你们做的也分享一下再说别
: 人。
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z******0
发帖数: 234 | |
z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 72 我的频道有6.8 million views， 其中老中看的还不到零头。 所以事实和您说的相反
： 老美欣赏我这些烂视频，老中才不喜欢看老中的。
【在 p******s 的大作中提到】
: 我是在帮你simplify，看不惯你用蹩脚英语自卖自夸，别太上脸了，你的视频也就是版
: 上人替你看看，老美直接当垃圾了
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M**2
发帖数: 1121 | 73 学习了。
买的确实是便宜货。看来要买贵的硬的。
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: Vinyl plank 要用fiberglass core的，比较硬敲打方便。便宜的软软的有点麻烦，尤
: 其是plank比较长
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z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 74 客厅 laminate， 或客厅的任何地板都容易。 过道，门下 是费事的。
您的 vinyl下面是胶粘的？
【在 M**2 的大作中提到】
: 刚 kitchen 铺了 vinyl plank floor 和 客厅 laminate, 不过是请师傅做的，自己没
: 有那个本事。
: 没想到师傅说 laminate 不怎么费事， vinyl plank 非常费事。看着 vinyl plank 软
: 软的，没想到这么难装。
: 敬仰一下楼主大牛人，自己动手，还和大家分享。
: 回帖挑刺的就算了。楼主这么能干又热心。那些跳刺的，把你们做的也分享一下再说别
: 人。
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b**********y
发帖数: 7371 | 75 其实vinyl plank 不建议用在地下层以上，主要原因是它一对温度变化敏感，尤其是有
阳光照射的地方，伸缩比较大容易产生缝隙，二是它的表面不是那么耐磨。
【在 M**2 的大作中提到】
: 学习了。
: 买的确实是便宜货。看来要买贵的硬的。
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n****1
发帖数: 2895 | 76 老张的这个确实不错，虽然可能很多人也这样做过，不过形成计划根拍出视频还是要赞
的。就是这口音，估计老外不会看完，中国人也不会看完。在这个全是中国人的坛子里
用英语不知到底咋想的。除非中文没法表达得比英语还清楚。 |
z*****8
发帖数: 2546 | 77 这口音很难改。 我初中高中学法语的。 到大学才进了最差的 "C"班 从ABC 学起。 年
纪小时口音可改， 大脑成型后， 口音很难改。
但在美国， 我感觉美国人很理解通融的， 我并没有感到有多大口音麻烦， 倒是同胞
很烦恼我的口音。
【在 n****1 的大作中提到】
: 老张的这个确实不错，虽然可能很多人也这样做过，不过形成计划根拍出视频还是要赞
: 的。就是这口音，估计老外不会看完，中国人也不会看完。在这个全是中国人的坛子里
: 用英语不知到底咋想的。除非中文没法表达得比英语还清楚。
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