c******n
发帖数: 5697 | | B********r
发帖数: 2787 | | c******n
发帖数: 5697 | 3 纽约时报分析认为：因为大部分异议人士都是跟菌斑人士一样，没有一技之长，英文蹩
脚烂，所以在美国根本混不下去
【在 B********r 的大作中提到】
: 不会吧，NED不养电工了？
| c******n
发帖数: 5697 | 4 魏京生刚来美国，天天见美国参议员，免费全程去欧洲游览演讲
现在被美国人遗忘，天天靠问别人要钱过日子 | B********r
发帖数: 2787 | 5 社论还认为，应该把电工之类的发送回中国继续战斗在第一线，美国人民觉悟太TMD的低
了，对这样著名中国民主自由人士居然毫不关心，都 不能上头条
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】
: 纽约时报分析认为：因为大部分异议人士都是跟菌斑人士一样，没有一技之长，英文蹩
: 脚烂，所以在美国根本混不下去
| B********r
发帖数: 2787 | 6 这就是美国人对不起电工了
当初哭着喊着要接过来，接过来了又不管了
转发陈先生陈太太参考一下
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】
: 魏京生刚来美国，天天见美国参议员，免费全程去欧洲游览演讲
: 现在被美国人遗忘，天天靠问别人要钱过日子
| i*****g
发帖数: 11893 | 7 For China, a Dissident in Exile Is One Less Headache Back Home
By ANDREW JACOBS
Published: May 4, 2012
After more than a week of high-level diplomacy over the fate of the blind
activist Chen Guangcheng, the Chinese government was widely seen as making a
major concession on Friday by agreeing to allow Mr. Chen to apply to leave
for the United States.
Related
Nascent Deal Would Let Dissident From China Study in U.S. (May 5, 2012)
Dissident’s Plea for Protection From China Deepens Crisis (May 4, 2012)
A Car Chase, Secret Talks and Second Thoughts (May 3, 2012)
Times Topic: Chen Guangcheng
Related in Opinion
Op-Ed Contributor: Don’t Believe China’s Promises (May 5, 2012)
Op-Ed Contributor: Mr. Chen, Welcome to America (May 5, 2012)
Editorial: Chen Guangcheng’s Uncertain Future (May 5, 2012)
Room for Debate: Are We Headed for a Cold War With China? (May 2, 2012)
The bigger concession would have been allowing him to stay.
Based on past experience, China is often all too pleased to see its most
nettlesome dissidents go into exile, where they almost invariably lose their
ability to grab headlines in the West and to command widespread sympathy
both in China and abroad.
“The Chinese will be happy to get their No. 1 troublemaker out of their
hair,” said Bob Fu, the president of ChinaAid, a Christian advocacy group
in Texas that was instrumental in drawing attention to Mr. Chen’s cause.
Human rights advocates cite the case of Wei Jingsheng, long one of China’s
most famous prisoners of conscience, who sank into relative obscurity after
Beijing granted him medical parole in 1997 and sent him packing to the
United States. Mr. Wei, who now struggles to support himself through private
donations, government grants and speaking engagements, said he longed for
those first few months after his arrival when he was honored by United
States senators and traveled to Europe on all-expense-paid lecture tours.
“At first the news media pays a great deal of attention to you, but then it
wanes,” he said from his home in Maryland. “You lose your leverage to
expose the crimes of the Chinese government.”
And if history is any guide, the Chinese authorities are unlikely to allow
Mr. Chen, a self-taught legal advocate who had been silenced by seven years
of prison and house arrest, to return home after his studies, especially if
he continues his full-throated criticisms of the country’s authoritarian
political system.
It was the prospect of just such irrelevancy that prompted Mr. Chen to
reject any discussion of asylum when he arrived at the American Embassy in
Beijing last week after escaping smothering house arrest in rural Shandong
Province.
During six days of talks that ended on Wednesday, American diplomats sought
to negotiate with their counterparts in the Chinese Foreign Ministry over
how to meet Mr. Chen’s unusual demand: to stay in China, further his legal
education and live “like a normal Chinese citizen,” as he put it.
Both sides apparently thought they had found a way to satisfy Mr. Chen, but
the arrangement fell apart after he left the embassy and fellow activists
helped convince him that he and his family would be in danger if they stayed
in China.
Shaken by accusations that they had rushed a flawed resolution, State
Department officials on Friday came up with the new arrangement, which would
allow Mr. Chen to travel to the United States on a student visa.
Jerome A. Cohen, a New York University law professor who helped broker the
deal, said he hoped Mr. Chen would scale back his political activism while
focusing on his education. “If he wants to stay here after his studies,
then he’ll have to ask for political asylum,” Mr. Cohen said. “I’ll be
disappointed in a way, but I’ll understand.”
If Mr. Chen receives a green light to depart for the United States, he will
arrive to find a fractured tribe of Chinese dissidents and pro-democracy
advocates shouting over one another.
Some analysts say that divisiveness hobbles the movement’s overall
effectiveness and is one reason the Chinese government has allowed so many
prominent intellectuals and political reformers to leave the country.
“I’ve had discussions with Chinese officials who thanked me for convincing
them to release people because they ended up spending more time fighting
other dissidents than fighting the Chinese government,” said John Kamm, the
executive director of the Dui Hua Foundation, which has negotiated freedom
for a number of political prisoners.
Such disputes, he and others say, are partly borne of the frustration that
comes from toiling for so long without much result.
Most exiles arrived in the late 1980s and early 1990s, after the government
crackdown on protests in Tiananmen Square sent scores of students seeking
sanctuary abroad. Huang Ciping, 50, an engineer who volunteers with the
foundation established by Mr. Wei, said many exiles lack marketable skills
and speak halting English.
The Chinese government, Ms. Huang added, does not make their lives any
easier, often refusing to allow politically outspoken citizens to return
home. “The Communist Party wants to see you suffer,” said Ms. Huang, who
has not been to China since 1998. “When my father died, they wouldn’t even
let me attend the funeral.”
There are, of course, a great many exiles who find success as lobbyists,
lecturers and professional agitators. Mr. Fu, the Texas activist who helped
advise Mr. Chen, has significant influence in Washington, thanks in part to
the largess of Christian Americans.
Harry Wu, the éminence grise of Chinese dissidents, who spent 19 years in
labor camps, frequently testifies before Congress about prison conditions in
China.
More recently, Rebiya Kadeer, once a wealthy entrepreneur, has became an
internationally recognized leader for China’s ethnic Uighurs.
The Internet has amplified the voices of many dissidents and eased their
isolation. Yu Jie, 38, a writer who was given permission to leave China in
January, said he looks forward to writing books that are not censored. In
recent days, he has used Twitter to ridicule the notion that Mr. Chen could
fight oppression by staying in China. “The first thing we need to do is
stay alive,” wrote Mr. Yu, who says he nearly died from torture by the
police. “Then we can carry on with our missions.”
Or as another activist put it: What good is a voice when it is trapped
behind bars?
But Tseten Wangchuk, a former researcher at the Chinese Academy of Social
Sciences, said he has seen many compatriots grow embittered after the
initial rush of freedom. He said part of the problem stemmed from the
personality of the typical dissident. “These are not people who easily
compromise,” said Mr. Wangchuk, an ethnic Tibetan who works for Voice of
America in Washington. “When they come here, everyone thinks they are going
to be the leader, but it doesn’t work out that way.”
Helen Gao contributed research. | i*****g
发帖数: 11893 | 8 中新和菌斑的老将内牛满面
民主哥们，肿么办涅？我也很同情这些人，肿么办涅，这些人其实无一技之长
米帝又不愿意当 国会议员一样 养他们
我老头儿透露个小消息，去找 trader 江平啊，他赚了不少钱，他非常靠近老将，可以
养一些人
如果他不干呢？ 那就证明他天天在菌斑打嘴炮，cheap service of democracy | h*******u
发帖数: 15326 | 9 江平敢养老将，土共马上把他踢出帝都。
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: 中新和菌斑的老将内牛满面
: 民主哥们，肿么办涅？我也很同情这些人，肿么办涅，这些人其实无一技之长
: 米帝又不愿意当 国会议员一样 养他们
: 我老头儿透露个小消息，去找 trader 江平啊，他赚了不少钱，他非常靠近老将，可以
: 养一些人
: 如果他不干呢？ 那就证明他天天在菌斑打嘴炮，cheap service of democracy
| h*******u
发帖数: 15326 | 10 最后一段实在，这些人本质上都是些刺耳头，滚刀肉，牛二，闹将。一旦把他们踢出耍
赖的环境，他们就屁也不是了。
a
leave
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: For China, a Dissident in Exile Is One Less Headache Back Home
: By ANDREW JACOBS
: Published: May 4, 2012
: After more than a week of high-level diplomacy over the fate of the blind
: activist Chen Guangcheng, the Chinese government was widely seen as making a
: major concession on Friday by agreeing to allow Mr. Chen to apply to leave
: for the United States.
: Related
: Nascent Deal Would Let Dissident From China Study in U.S. (May 5, 2012)
: Dissident’s Plea for Protection From China Deepens Crisis (May 4, 2012)
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发帖数: 9527 | 11 老将的悲哀就是整天吵吵着变革，却没有一个愿意上井冈山，整天巴望着主子推翻TG。 | s********n
发帖数: 26222 | | g*****c
发帖数: 4378 | | c****n
发帖数: 4129 | 14 失去利用价值了。美国政客需要更欢新的工具了，比如那谁.........
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】
: 魏京生刚来美国，天天见美国参议员，免费全程去欧洲游览演讲
: 现在被美国人遗忘，天天靠问别人要钱过日子
| l*****o
发帖数: 9235 | 15 现在国内对中共强烈不满的大概5%吧，米蒂应该把这七八千万人全接过来，体现人全。 |
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