M*******s
发帖数: 1210 | 1 forget the conference champion bs,
having a dominant UT or ou!
Replacing either one with baylor or tcu, the results are different |
p**m
发帖数: 11571 | 2 正解。
【在 M*******s 的大作中提到】
: forget the conference champion bs,
: having a dominant UT or ou!
: Replacing either one with baylor or tcu, the results are different
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 3 how about dropping all FCS teams from your schedule
【在 M*******s 的大作中提到】
: forget the conference champion bs,
: having a dominant UT or ou!
: Replacing either one with baylor or tcu, the results are different
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M*******s
发帖数: 1210 | 4 which one did that
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: how about dropping all FCS teams from your schedule
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p**m
发帖数: 11571 | 5 远不如强大的ou texas
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: how about dropping all FCS teams from your schedule
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p**x
发帖数: 6614 | 6 texas 一时半会儿烂泥扶不上墙
【在 p**m 的大作中提到】
: 远不如强大的ou texas
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M*******s
发帖数: 1210 | 7 need good OL and QB
【在 p**x 的大作中提到】
: texas 一时半会儿烂泥扶不上墙
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | |
d********g
发帖数: 11948 | |
M*******s
发帖数: 1210 | 10 i thought we are talking about UT and OU.
anyway, we don't know what the committee members looks for, but their
schedule is as good as most other big 5 conference schools. if off
conference games are so important, why osu is selected
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: baylor future schedules:
: http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-12/baylor-bears.php
: tcu a bit better
: http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-12/tcu-horned-frogs.php
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d********g
发帖数: 11948 | 11 ？osu ooc对手至少有cinncy的aac冠军贝勒和tcu有谁？
【在 M*******s 的大作中提到】
: i thought we are talking about UT and OU.
: anyway, we don't know what the committee members looks for, but their
: schedule is as good as most other big 5 conference schools. if off
: conference games are so important, why osu is selected
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M*******s
发帖数: 1210 | 12 osu lost an ooc game
【在 d********g 的大作中提到】
: ？osu ooc对手至少有cinncy的aac冠军贝勒和tcu有谁？
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 13 well.. at least it lost to a power 5 opponent. i'm sure osu would've prevail
ed against northwestern state or liberty or UTSA whatever they are.
i think last year when playoff was announced that they did say sos matters.
and conf champions matter.
anyway, we're talking about lessons for the future. i think swapping fcs
teams for fbs is a minimum requirement and something schools can control
【在 M*******s 的大作中提到】
: osu lost an ooc game
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M*******s
发帖数: 1210 | 14 well said, these occ games are set 5 years in advance.
good learning for them for the future. unfortunately, we just had this new
rule for 1 year.
coming back to my original point,even tcu and baylor had better ooc schedule
and they won - it would not matter. Big12 need strong UT and OU.Think about
this, sould NW be selected over a similar Texas or OU?
prevail
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: well.. at least it lost to a power 5 opponent. i'm sure osu would've prevail
: ed against northwestern state or liberty or UTSA whatever they are.
: i think last year when playoff was announced that they did say sos matters.
: and conf champions matter.
: anyway, we're talking about lessons for the future. i think swapping fcs
: teams for fbs is a minimum requirement and something schools can control
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 15 big12首要任务是把名字改掉。12个头啊。冠军赛都没有。 |
b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 16 history always carries some weight. i do think if it's texas or OU the outco
me might be different. but it's all speculation now.
i think playoff should be expanded to 8 teams (6 team would give too much be
nefit for top 2 to have a bye). and all p5 schools have to only schedule fbs
opponents and have a ccg. big 12 can add 2 more teams to go up to 12 too if
not 14.
new
schedule
about
【在 M*******s 的大作中提到】
: well said, these occ games are set 5 years in advance.
: good learning for them for the future. unfortunately, we just had this new
: rule for 1 year.
: coming back to my original point,even tcu and baylor had better ooc schedule
: and they won - it would not matter. Big12 need strong UT and OU.Think about
: this, sould NW be selected over a similar Texas or OU?
:
: prevail
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N*********n
发帖数: 3584 | 17 有道理，关键时刻还是玩不过powerhouse的。人fan base摆在那里。什么ooc太弱就是
找个由头罢了。
【在 M*******s 的大作中提到】
: forget the conference champion bs,
: having a dominant UT or ou!
: Replacing either one with baylor or tcu, the results are different
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M*******s
发帖数: 1210 | 18 assume big12 had a championship game, which is baylor against ksu
Baylor won, would it make any difference....
no
【在 Y******e 的大作中提到】
: big12首要任务是把名字改掉。12个头啊。冠军赛都没有。
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M*******s
发帖数: 1210 | 19 it's all business decision.
problem is big 12 don't want to add teams. no good teams can improve the
size of their pie. UT and OU don't want to reduce their share, so is the
other 8.
outco
be
fbs
if
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: history always carries some weight. i do think if it's texas or OU the outco
: me might be different. but it's all speculation now.
: i think playoff should be expanded to 8 teams (6 team would give too much be
: nefit for top 2 to have a bye). and all p5 schools have to only schedule fbs
: opponents and have a ccg. big 12 can add 2 more teams to go up to 12 too if
: not 14.
:
: new
: schedule
: about
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G**c
发帖数: 1656 | |
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l*****y
发帖数: 4887 | 21 说实话，放今年的Kent State在FCS也未必能打成什么样
Bama有Western Carolina
Ole Miss有Presbyterian
Miss State有UT Martin
FSU有Citadel
Oregon有South Dakota
mighty SEC进入六大bowl的都有
没见谁有意见
除了OSU
Playoff剩下三个
也都Schedule了FCS foes
其中Oregon/Bama也都是1负球队
还是没人说什么
OOC有FCS这个事情，真心就是个借口
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: how about dropping all FCS teams from your schedule
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o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 22 从10个队开始，big12就命中注定要被遗弃。再加上committe的组成，球队的影响力，
osu不进才怪。
另外我觉得big12应该打8场比赛， ooc应该选一些mid major的球队多打搭。
不过，我从来就不是conference的球迷，OU这么烂，对tcu不公平又能怎么样，osu拿了
冠军或者被虐，又不影响我们的招生。要是tcu进了，我们的recruit就会更烂了。 |
l*****y
发帖数: 4887 | 23 我觉得，迟早拆掉Big12变成四大联盟，东边ACC，西边Pac12，北边BigTen，南边SEC
然后八队Playoff
冠军自动入围，然后还有四个名额搞委员会
这样既鼓励了大家冠军赛好好打，不要学Wisky，也还有运作的空间。
【在 o****3 的大作中提到】
: 从10个队开始，big12就命中注定要被遗弃。再加上committe的组成，球队的影响力，
: osu不进才怪。
: 另外我觉得big12应该打8场比赛， ooc应该选一些mid major的球队多打搭。
: 不过，我从来就不是conference的球迷，OU这么烂，对tcu不公平又能怎么样，osu拿了
: 冠军或者被虐，又不影响我们的招生。要是tcu进了，我们的recruit就会更烂了。
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d********g
发帖数: 11948 | 24
我看来看去你老是觉得wisky打假球啊 我还是很难理解大学怎么打假球？55个队员怎么
去动员大家一起打假球？裁判来得更直接吧，但昨天裁判貌似没问题？
【在 l*****y 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得，迟早拆掉Big12变成四大联盟，东边ACC，西边Pac12，北边BigTen，南边SEC
: 然后八队Playoff
: 冠军自动入围，然后还有四个名额搞委员会
: 这样既鼓励了大家冠军赛好好打，不要学Wisky，也还有运作的空间。
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o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 25 我也觉得裁掉big12是最好的解决办法。
不过与其说wis打假球，不如说big的division太滥，还在打农民足球。连bama都打
spread了，wis还在靠一个rb，赢了才是怪事。
【在 l*****y 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得，迟早拆掉Big12变成四大联盟，东边ACC，西边Pac12，北边BigTen，南边SEC
: 然后八队Playoff
: 冠军自动入围，然后还有四个名额搞委员会
: 这样既鼓励了大家冠军赛好好打，不要学Wisky，也还有运作的空间。
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d*****i
发帖数: 1618 | 26 ciao，这不是跟我先前说的一个理？你应该引用一下吧，让我白白少了一个citation。
【在 M*******s 的大作中提到】
: forget the conference champion bs,
: having a dominant UT or ou!
: Replacing either one with baylor or tcu, the results are different
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M*******s
发帖数: 1210 | 27 not sure what ou's recruiting will be without big12
【在 o****3 的大作中提到】
: 我也觉得裁掉big12是最好的解决办法。
: 不过与其说wis打假球，不如说big的division太滥，还在打农民足球。连bama都打
: spread了，wis还在靠一个rb，赢了才是怪事。
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o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 28 It was damn good when OU played in big8.
【在 M*******s 的大作中提到】
: not sure what ou's recruiting will be without big12
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M*******s
发帖数: 1210 | 29 there is no big8 now, look at NEB
【在 o****3 的大作中提到】
: It was damn good when OU played in big8.
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l*****y
发帖数: 4887 | 30 UMich打你们就不是假球，咬牙到最后一刻，输了也要一搏
关键有得可争，就不会放弃
要不都第一节关电视还怎么玩
没说打假球，但见势不妙顺水人情是给了的
要说假球，OC/DC随便call play就行了，和球员沟通干什么
比如（没有说昨天发生了，只是举个例子）
Stave多扔deep ball，让Wisky横向跑外侧
350磅的OL snap之后先横向跑起来。。。
球员再努力也没用了
*NCAA有85个球员
【在 d********g 的大作中提到】
:
: 我看来看去你老是觉得wisky打假球啊 我还是很难理解大学怎么打假球？55个队员怎么
: 去动员大家一起打假球？裁判来得更直接吧，但昨天裁判貌似没问题？
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f*******e
发帖数: 280 | 31 cannot agree more. Had OU or Texas won the champ in 2011, a rematch between
LSU-Alabama would have not happened.
【在 M*******s 的大作中提到】
: forget the conference champion bs,
: having a dominant UT or ou!
: Replacing either one with baylor or tcu, the results are different
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h***o
发帖数: 2321 | 32 I don not agree.
8-team playoff will totally ruin the bowl games.
Who would pay to watch the other bowl games if there are 7 playoff games?
outco
be
fbs
if
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: history always carries some weight. i do think if it's texas or OU the outco
: me might be different. but it's all speculation now.
: i think playoff should be expanded to 8 teams (6 team would give too much be
: nefit for top 2 to have a bye). and all p5 schools have to only schedule fbs
: opponents and have a ccg. big 12 can add 2 more teams to go up to 12 too if
: not 14.
:
: new
: schedule
: about
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F**D
发帖数: 113 | 33 最合理的是折了大十二，四大联盟冠军直接半决赛。根本不要任何主观的投票。
小联盟会反对，但是现在也只是理论上的可能性
【在 h***o 的大作中提到】
: I don not agree.
: 8-team playoff will totally ruin the bowl games.
: Who would pay to watch the other bowl games if there are 7 playoff games?
:
: outco
: be
: fbs
: if
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 34 already, nobody cares about the bowl games. in principle i agree with you an
d am against the creep, but $$$ may dictate that.
like someone else suggested, maybe a better approach would be to dismantle t
he big 12 and create 4 super conferences. but, that may dilute the current p
ie as a lot of the big 12 teams are small market teams that no other conf wa
nts
【在 h***o 的大作中提到】
: I don not agree.
: 8-team playoff will totally ruin the bowl games.
: Who would pay to watch the other bowl games if there are 7 playoff games?
:
: outco
: be
: fbs
: if
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a****r
发帖数: 4965 | 35 现在各个Poll的主流观点是TCU要排在Baylor后面，因为Baylor赢了头对头的比赛。所
以TCU是三支队伍里最先被淘汰的球队。然后再比OSU和Baylor，确实最近OSU的表现更
好些，而且还多打了一场BIG10冠军赛。
但如果真有BIG12 Championship Game，而且TCU赢了，那么TCU进Playoff，而不是OSU
【在 M*******s 的大作中提到】
: assume big12 had a championship game, which is baylor against ksu
: Baylor won, would it make any difference....
: no
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C*******d
发帖数: 1553 | 36 8进四可以用原来的bcs四大碗
后面四选一再叫playoff吧
【在 h***o 的大作中提到】
: I don not agree.
: 8-team playoff will totally ruin the bowl games.
: Who would pay to watch the other bowl games if there are 7 playoff games?
:
: outco
: be
: fbs
: if
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 37 even if big 12 had CCG, TCU would be in same division as Baylor and wouldn't
play in that CCG anyway
OSU
【在 a****r 的大作中提到】
: 现在各个Poll的主流观点是TCU要排在Baylor后面，因为Baylor赢了头对头的比赛。所
: 以TCU是三支队伍里最先被淘汰的球队。然后再比OSU和Baylor，确实最近OSU的表现更
: 好些，而且还多打了一场BIG10冠军赛。
: 但如果真有BIG12 Championship Game，而且TCU赢了，那么TCU进Playoff，而不是OSU
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 38 其实6队就最好了，4大联盟冠军，加两个外带名额，优先给ND,academic service（如
果ND还是independent)和小联盟（包括Big12，8-10个队就是小联盟嘛，有本事学ND自
己独立，哈哈）。排名前2的可以多休息一场
还有农民足球就是Spread option，巴马今年主要是打了no huddle，不是农民足球。萨
班其实
真的很聪明，尝试开会打压no huddle不成功，马上自己搞起no huddle来，谁怕谁呀。 |
b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 39 one fewer game is too much advantage. I say no
【在 Y******e 的大作中提到】
: 其实6队就最好了，4大联盟冠军，加两个外带名额，优先给ND,academic service（如
: 果ND还是independent)和小联盟（包括Big12，8-10个队就是小联盟嘛，有本事学ND自
: 己独立，哈哈）。排名前2的可以多休息一场
: 还有农民足球就是Spread option，巴马今年主要是打了no huddle，不是农民足球。萨
: 班其实
: 真的很聪明，尝试开会打压no huddle不成功，马上自己搞起no huddle来，谁怕谁呀。
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M****m
发帖数: 3243 | 40 Have some balls and schedule some SEC team one in a while.
【在 M*******s 的大作中提到】
: forget the conference champion bs,
: having a dominant UT or ou!
: Replacing either one with baylor or tcu, the results are different
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 41 其实没多少。很对球队常规赛by week出来都输了。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: one fewer game is too much advantage. I say no
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T******w
发帖数: 159 | 42 The most important thing is next time钦点当年度太子爷的时候不要看走眼了，今
年如果钦点的是TCU而不是Baylor，61对58那下别那么黑，TCU现在就全胜了，管你FCS
还是十二场，谁也弄不出去。
【在 M*******s 的大作中提到】
: forget the conference champion bs,
: having a dominant UT or ou!
: Replacing either one with baylor or tcu, the results are different
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x*****g
发帖数: 3463 | 43 这个是本年度最大JOKE，比BIG好笑多了
FCS
【在 T******w 的大作中提到】
: The most important thing is next time钦点当年度太子爷的时候不要看走眼了，今
: 年如果钦点的是TCU而不是Baylor，61对58那下别那么黑，TCU现在就全胜了，管你FCS
: 还是十二场，谁也弄不出去。
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