y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 1 T. Northrup Reviews Fujifilm X-T2 Vs. Sony A6300, A7RII, GH4 and 5DS-R :: “
Best MILC for Action We Have Ever Used!”
ACTION: X-T2 Best Mirrorless camera they have ever tested for Sports
Controls are brilliant
sadly no touch screen
X-T2 is their favorite travel camera
WiFi app needs improvemets
battery life not great
no IBIS
RAW and JPEG Image Quality is on par with Nikon and Sony APS-C cameras, but
twice as much noise as FF cameras
not great for portraits, because Eye detection works not as reliable as the
Sony eye detection. Better use the joystick on the X-T2
dual memory card slot
The X-T2 with Fujinon 50-140mm is sharper than the Canon 70-200 on the 50MP
Canon 5DS-R
Canon/Nikon: wider variety of less exensive and high quality lenses
Very good Video camera”
zz from fujirumors |
y*b
发帖数: 3190 | |
O**P
发帖数: 1186 | 3 看着不错啊
【在 y*b 的大作中提到】
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c*****e
发帖数: 757 | 4 其实现在无反各家的旗舰机型都很厉害了。
富士的旗舰机型和镜头都不算便宜，不过镜头成像不错。
那些抱怨单反重的人真的可以尝试一下。
对焦可能比单反的旗舰还差些，不过日常绝对都用了。 |
O**P
发帖数: 1186 | 5 连拍运动能对上焦吗?这连机器机带镜头才三千多价格确实还可以。
我现在尼康想升个拍运动的全副看来看去也只有d5了，好像骂人啊。。。
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: 其实现在无反各家的旗舰机型都很厉害了。
: 富士的旗舰机型和镜头都不算便宜，不过镜头成像不错。
: 那些抱怨单反重的人真的可以尝试一下。
: 对焦可能比单反的旗舰还差些，不过日常绝对都用了。
|
f*****w
发帖数: 2602 | 6 纠结是不是应该佳能换门富士....
好像闪光灯会麻烦不少
but
【在 y*b 的大作中提到】
: T. Northrup Reviews Fujifilm X-T2 Vs. Sony A6300, A7RII, GH4 and 5DS-R :: “
: Best MILC for Action We Have Ever Used!”
: ACTION: X-T2 Best Mirrorless camera they have ever tested for Sports
: Controls are brilliant
: sadly no touch screen
: X-T2 is their favorite travel camera
: WiFi app needs improvemets
: battery life not great
: no IBIS
: RAW and JPEG Image Quality is on par with Nikon and Sony APS-C cameras, but
|
a********a
发帖数: 1224 | 7 没必要吧，跟单反比机身加镜头也没小到哪去。
【在 f*****w 的大作中提到】
: 纠结是不是应该佳能换门富士....
: 好像闪光灯会麻烦不少
:
: but
|
m*******n
发帖数: 519 | 8 https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4072528
这个链接有点意思，OP比较了Canon T6i vs XT2，结论是：
“I am not sure but Canon lens is so light that I wounder if it is all
plastic, no glass?
APS-C sensors are on both cameras (T6i and XT2). Canon's AF feels faster
indoors. It does not go sharper than that but I feel that IQ is steady in
all my shots. With XT2 it can get a nice sharp photos but it misses a lot
when I shoot kids playing inside.
I still have not decided for my self if it worth extra $1K wit a kit lens...
I love my 56 mm f1.2 but again it is super slow....”
Just FYI.
【在 O**P 的大作中提到】
: 连拍运动能对上焦吗?这连机器机带镜头才三千多价格确实还可以。
: 我现在尼康想升个拍运动的全副看来看去也只有d5了，好像骂人啊。。。
|
b*****s
发帖数: 3390 | 9 暗光对焦是目前CMOS集成相位对焦的弱点，短时间内无解
只能靠反差对焦，可是靠反差追焦先天不足
追焦都无法跟同档次单反机身的独立相位模块相比
我只是好奇T6i的独立相位模块都这么牛了？
..
【在 m*******n 的大作中提到】
: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4072528
: 这个链接有点意思，OP比较了Canon T6i vs XT2，结论是：
: “I am not sure but Canon lens is so light that I wounder if it is all
: plastic, no glass?
: APS-C sensors are on both cameras (T6i and XT2). Canon's AF feels faster
: indoors. It does not go sharper than that but I feel that IQ is steady in
: all my shots. With XT2 it can get a nice sharp photos but it misses a lot
: when I shoot kids playing inside.
: I still have not decided for my self if it worth extra $1K wit a kit lens...
: I love my 56 mm f1.2 but again it is super slow....”
|
a*****3
发帖数: 41 | 10 顺便问个问题
x100 和xe1的对焦怎么样
考虑一个小定焦的机器，35mm左右，
xe1家xf27 和x100比较如何？
还有eosm系列加22饼
主要考虑对焦，不考虑追焦，只是普通使用对焦速度，偶尔抓拍一些场景，不会用于
快速运动。
要求高的场景，我有d750 |
|
|
c*****e
发帖数: 757 | 11 这个好像只在比较kit lense。fuji的优势体现不出来。
富士的镜头群不错，如果只用套头的话，完全没有必要买xt2，弄个a6000性价比要好多
了。
富士有些老头对焦速度不理想，一些新头还可以。
: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4072528
: 这个链接有点意思，OP比较了Canon T6i vs XT2，结论是：
: “I am not sure but Canon lens is so light that I wounder if it is all
: plastic, no glass?
: APS-C sensors are on both cameras (T6i and XT2). Canon's AF feels
faster
: indoors. It does not go sharper than that but I feel that IQ is steady
in
: all my shots. With XT2 it can get a nice sharp photos but it misses a
lot
: when I shoot kids playing inside.
: I still have not decided for my self if it worth extra $1K wit a kit
lens...
: I love my 56 mm f1.2 but again it is super slow....”
【在 m*******n 的大作中提到】
: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4072528
: 这个链接有点意思，OP比较了Canon T6i vs XT2，结论是：
: “I am not sure but Canon lens is so light that I wounder if it is all
: plastic, no glass?
: APS-C sensors are on both cameras (T6i and XT2). Canon's AF feels faster
: indoors. It does not go sharper than that but I feel that IQ is steady in
: all my shots. With XT2 it can get a nice sharp photos but it misses a lot
: when I shoot kids playing inside.
: I still have not decided for my self if it worth extra $1K wit a kit lens...
: I love my 56 mm f1.2 but again it is super slow....”
|
c*****e
发帖数: 757 | 12 fuji的定焦机不如再等一等下一代，应该会加入现在XT-2，XPro-2的sensor，对焦速度
会快很多。
EOSM系列对焦不快。除非你买新出的M5。
其实我觉得有全幅机的，买个黑卡做辅机是最佳选择，无比轻便，画质又不错。X100和
EOSM5体积都不算轻便。
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: 顺便问个问题
: x100 和xe1的对焦怎么样
: 考虑一个小定焦的机器，35mm左右，
: xe1家xf27 和x100比较如何？
: 还有eosm系列加22饼
: 主要考虑对焦，不考虑追焦，只是普通使用对焦速度，偶尔抓拍一些场景，不会用于
: 快速运动。
: 要求高的场景，我有d750
|
y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 13 T. Northrup Reviews Fujifilm X-T2 Vs. Sony A6300, A7RII, GH4 and 5DS-R :: “
Best MILC for Action We Have Ever Used!”
ACTION: X-T2 Best Mirrorless camera they have ever tested for Sports
Controls are brilliant
sadly no touch screen
X-T2 is their favorite travel camera
WiFi app needs improvemets
battery life not great
no IBIS
RAW and JPEG Image Quality is on par with Nikon and Sony APS-C cameras, but
twice as much noise as FF cameras
not great for portraits, because Eye detection works not as reliable as the
Sony eye detection. Better use the joystick on the X-T2
dual memory card slot
The X-T2 with Fujinon 50-140mm is sharper than the Canon 70-200 on the 50MP
Canon 5DS-R
Canon/Nikon: wider variety of less exensive and high quality lenses
Very good Video camera”
zz from fujirumors |
y*b
发帖数: 3190 | |
O**P
发帖数: 1186 | 15 看着不错啊
【在 y*b 的大作中提到】
|
c*****e
发帖数: 757 | 16 其实现在无反各家的旗舰机型都很厉害了。
富士的旗舰机型和镜头都不算便宜，不过镜头成像不错。
那些抱怨单反重的人真的可以尝试一下。
对焦可能比单反的旗舰还差些，不过日常绝对都用了。 |
O**P
发帖数: 1186 | 17 连拍运动能对上焦吗?这连机器机带镜头才三千多价格确实还可以。
我现在尼康想升个拍运动的全副看来看去也只有d5了，好像骂人啊。。。
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: 其实现在无反各家的旗舰机型都很厉害了。
: 富士的旗舰机型和镜头都不算便宜，不过镜头成像不错。
: 那些抱怨单反重的人真的可以尝试一下。
: 对焦可能比单反的旗舰还差些，不过日常绝对都用了。
|
f*****w
发帖数: 2602 | 18 纠结是不是应该佳能换门富士....
好像闪光灯会麻烦不少
but
【在 y*b 的大作中提到】
: T. Northrup Reviews Fujifilm X-T2 Vs. Sony A6300, A7RII, GH4 and 5DS-R :: “
: Best MILC for Action We Have Ever Used!”
: ACTION: X-T2 Best Mirrorless camera they have ever tested for Sports
: Controls are brilliant
: sadly no touch screen
: X-T2 is their favorite travel camera
: WiFi app needs improvemets
: battery life not great
: no IBIS
: RAW and JPEG Image Quality is on par with Nikon and Sony APS-C cameras, but
|
a********a
发帖数: 1224 | 19 没必要吧，跟单反比机身加镜头也没小到哪去。
【在 f*****w 的大作中提到】
: 纠结是不是应该佳能换门富士....
: 好像闪光灯会麻烦不少
:
: but
|
m*******n
发帖数: 519 | 20 https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4072528
这个链接有点意思，OP比较了Canon T6i vs XT2，结论是：
“I am not sure but Canon lens is so light that I wounder if it is all
plastic, no glass?
APS-C sensors are on both cameras (T6i and XT2). Canon's AF feels faster
indoors. It does not go sharper than that but I feel that IQ is steady in
all my shots. With XT2 it can get a nice sharp photos but it misses a lot
when I shoot kids playing inside.
I still have not decided for my self if it worth extra $1K wit a kit lens...
I love my 56 mm f1.2 but again it is super slow....”
Just FYI.
【在 O**P 的大作中提到】
: 连拍运动能对上焦吗?这连机器机带镜头才三千多价格确实还可以。
: 我现在尼康想升个拍运动的全副看来看去也只有d5了，好像骂人啊。。。
|
|
|
b*****s
发帖数: 3390 | 21 暗光对焦是目前CMOS集成相位对焦的弱点，短时间内无解
只能靠反差对焦，可是靠反差追焦先天不足
追焦都无法跟同档次单反机身的独立相位模块相比
我只是好奇T6i的独立相位模块都这么牛了？
..
【在 m*******n 的大作中提到】
: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4072528
: 这个链接有点意思，OP比较了Canon T6i vs XT2，结论是：
: “I am not sure but Canon lens is so light that I wounder if it is all
: plastic, no glass?
: APS-C sensors are on both cameras (T6i and XT2). Canon's AF feels faster
: indoors. It does not go sharper than that but I feel that IQ is steady in
: all my shots. With XT2 it can get a nice sharp photos but it misses a lot
: when I shoot kids playing inside.
: I still have not decided for my self if it worth extra $1K wit a kit lens...
: I love my 56 mm f1.2 but again it is super slow....”
|
a*****3
发帖数: 41 | 22 顺便问个问题
x100 和xe1的对焦怎么样
考虑一个小定焦的机器，35mm左右，
xe1家xf27 和x100比较如何？
还有eosm系列加22饼
主要考虑对焦，不考虑追焦，只是普通使用对焦速度，偶尔抓拍一些场景，不会用于
快速运动。
要求高的场景，我有d750 |
c*****e
发帖数: 757 | 23 这个好像只在比较kit lense。fuji的优势体现不出来。
富士的镜头群不错，如果只用套头的话，完全没有必要买xt2，弄个a6000性价比要好多
了。
富士有些老头对焦速度不理想，一些新头还可以。
: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4072528
: 这个链接有点意思，OP比较了Canon T6i vs XT2，结论是：
: “I am not sure but Canon lens is so light that I wounder if it is all
: plastic, no glass?
: APS-C sensors are on both cameras (T6i and XT2). Canon's AF feels
faster
: indoors. It does not go sharper than that but I feel that IQ is steady
in
: all my shots. With XT2 it can get a nice sharp photos but it misses a
lot
: when I shoot kids playing inside.
: I still have not decided for my self if it worth extra $1K wit a kit
lens...
: I love my 56 mm f1.2 but again it is super slow....”
【在 m*******n 的大作中提到】
: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4072528
: 这个链接有点意思，OP比较了Canon T6i vs XT2，结论是：
: “I am not sure but Canon lens is so light that I wounder if it is all
: plastic, no glass?
: APS-C sensors are on both cameras (T6i and XT2). Canon's AF feels faster
: indoors. It does not go sharper than that but I feel that IQ is steady in
: all my shots. With XT2 it can get a nice sharp photos but it misses a lot
: when I shoot kids playing inside.
: I still have not decided for my self if it worth extra $1K wit a kit lens...
: I love my 56 mm f1.2 but again it is super slow....”
|
c*****e
发帖数: 757 | 24 fuji的定焦机不如再等一等下一代，应该会加入现在XT-2，XPro-2的sensor，对焦速度
会快很多。
EOSM系列对焦不快。除非你买新出的M5。
其实我觉得有全幅机的，买个黑卡做辅机是最佳选择，无比轻便，画质又不错。X100和
EOSM5体积都不算轻便。
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: 顺便问个问题
: x100 和xe1的对焦怎么样
: 考虑一个小定焦的机器，35mm左右，
: xe1家xf27 和x100比较如何？
: 还有eosm系列加22饼
: 主要考虑对焦，不考虑追焦，只是普通使用对焦速度，偶尔抓拍一些场景，不会用于
: 快速运动。
: 要求高的场景，我有d750
|
a******8
发帖数: 48 | 25 x100的对焦有时候真的很让人烦。如果你用于静止的拍摄还好。对焦速度慢。xe1没用
过，不做评价。
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: 顺便问个问题
: x100 和xe1的对焦怎么样
: 考虑一个小定焦的机器，35mm左右，
: xe1家xf27 和x100比较如何？
: 还有eosm系列加22饼
: 主要考虑对焦，不考虑追焦，只是普通使用对焦速度，偶尔抓拍一些场景，不会用于
: 快速运动。
: 要求高的场景，我有d750
|
h*****2
发帖数: 2070 | 26 任何对佳能产品的描述请自动打5折.反正水军很便宜，吹牛逼也不要钱。
【在 b*****s 的大作中提到】
: 暗光对焦是目前CMOS集成相位对焦的弱点，短时间内无解
: 只能靠反差对焦，可是靠反差追焦先天不足
: 追焦都无法跟同档次单反机身的独立相位模块相比
: 我只是好奇T6i的独立相位模块都这么牛了？
:
: ..
|
m*******n
发帖数: 519 | 27 下面这个链接说X-T2 追焦连D600都赶不上，室内拍娃吃力，不晓得版上用xpro-2的感
觉如何？
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4080598
“X-T2 vs D750 AF-C
1 day ago
There will likely be a lot who will contradict me but this is my experience.
....
I had a Nikon D600 and had excellent AF-C experiences, it was easy to have
clean shot of my small kids. (Are you using a fast enough shutter speed?)
I then moved to Fuji X-E2 with fastests lenses, X100S, X100T and AF-C was
always a nightmare.... impossible to have a clean shot of my kids with a
shallow DOF. I loved a lot of other things on Fuji, but AF-C just didn't
work.
I received 2 days ago my X-T2, and only had the chance to do quick and basic
tests of AF-C with the 16-55 f2.8 of my kids moving around. Since it was in
the evening, I had to push the ISO around 1600-6400, and the results at
first are really bad.
Some will tel me that I dont have the right technique.... which I am happy
to acquire, but Jes...., I am tired to read that, it was just working on
the D600 without having to acquire a magical technique I have never found...
... on Fuji
rgds”
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: 其实现在无反各家的旗舰机型都很厉害了。
: 富士的旗舰机型和镜头都不算便宜，不过镜头成像不错。
: 那些抱怨单反重的人真的可以尝试一下。
: 对焦可能比单反的旗舰还差些，不过日常绝对都用了。
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b*****s
发帖数: 3390 | 28 我的一贯观点，松下索尼还是奥巴富士，无论各家新出的无反的对焦追焦参数上吹嘘得
多牛逼，暗光下无反追焦暂时无解，被cns的中端单反轻松秒杀
D600虽然对焦模块对焦点的数量少，但是这些焦点的可靠性是很好的
A99II坚持使用半透膜和独立对焦模块，就是对吹嘘无反对焦追焦最好的打脸，每个技
术都有自己的优势和劣势，必须客观看待。
experience.
【在 m*******n 的大作中提到】
: 下面这个链接说X-T2 追焦连D600都赶不上，室内拍娃吃力，不晓得版上用xpro-2的感
: 觉如何？
: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4080598
: “X-T2 vs D750 AF-C
: 1 day ago
: There will likely be a lot who will contradict me but this is my experience.
: ....
: I had a Nikon D600 and had excellent AF-C experiences, it was easy to have
: clean shot of my small kids. (Are you using a fast enough shutter speed?)
: I then moved to Fuji X-E2 with fastests lenses, X100S, X100T and AF-C was
|
