c****8
发帖数: 407 | 1 Hi guys...
I work for a small company for a few years. When I was in school, I learned
about SDLC and Waterfall model.
In company that I worked, we talked about we should do "Extreme Programming"
, "Scrum Development" and "Agile" etc for a while. However, even we kept
mentioning those terms once a while, I did not really feel we followed any
of those methodologies. We may use some ideas such as breaking down project
to small and frequent release, having frequent meeting between developers
and user groups and having a close teamwork etc. However, when it comes to
deadline, it seems the only methodology is to do whatever we can to do to
deliver a working product.
Since I have been working with the same company for many years, I wonder how
other companies would do with development methodology. It seems most jobs
outside had a requirement for experience with Agile development (Not
management level jobs, but just as Developers or Software QA Analyst or
Engineers.)
Does your company want you to put a lot of effort to ensure you are on track
with a development methodology? or you just do whatever the manager asked,
and trying to deliver a product?
Any information or discussion are welcome.
Thanks | s****y
发帖数: 2052 | 2 deliver the product
learned
Programming"
project
【在 c****8 的大作中提到】
: Hi guys...
: I work for a small company for a few years. When I was in school, I learned
: about SDLC and Waterfall model.
: In company that I worked, we talked about we should do "Extreme Programming"
: , "Scrum Development" and "Agile" etc for a while. However, even we kept
: mentioning those terms once a while, I did not really feel we followed any
: of those methodologies. We may use some ideas such as breaking down project
: to small and frequent release, having frequent meeting between developers
: and user groups and having a close teamwork etc. However, when it comes to
: deadline, it seems the only methodology is to do whatever we can to do to
| p*a
发帖数: 592 | 3 Scrum is a piece of shit. However, right now this shit is pretty popular.
learned
Programming"
project
【在 c****8 的大作中提到】
: Hi guys...
: I work for a small company for a few years. When I was in school, I learned
: about SDLC and Waterfall model.
: In company that I worked, we talked about we should do "Extreme Programming"
: , "Scrum Development" and "Agile" etc for a while. However, even we kept
: mentioning those terms once a while, I did not really feel we followed any
: of those methodologies. We may use some ideas such as breaking down project
: to small and frequent release, having frequent meeting between developers
: and user groups and having a close teamwork etc. However, when it comes to
: deadline, it seems the only methodology is to do whatever we can to do to
| g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 4 It's not a bullshit, it's a way to track your progress and push you.
Daily scrum meeting, talk about what you did yesterday and what you do
today. All working items trackable in JIRA or similar management system.
Tight sprint 2-4 weeks. Easy to figure out who's the weakest link.
【在 p*a 的大作中提到】
: Scrum is a piece of shit. However, right now this shit is pretty popular.
:
: learned
: Programming"
: project
| p******g
发帖数: 347 | 5 whatever method that requires frequent releases and meetings is a piece of bull shit, period. because 95% of energy is wasted on doing nothing productive.
just deliver the f**king product.
learned
Programming"
project
【在 c****8 的大作中提到】
: Hi guys...
: I work for a small company for a few years. When I was in school, I learned
: about SDLC and Waterfall model.
: In company that I worked, we talked about we should do "Extreme Programming"
: , "Scrum Development" and "Agile" etc for a while. However, even we kept
: mentioning those terms once a while, I did not really feel we followed any
: of those methodologies. We may use some ideas such as breaking down project
: to small and frequent release, having frequent meeting between developers
: and user groups and having a close teamwork etc. However, when it comes to
: deadline, it seems the only methodology is to do whatever we can to do to
| p*a
发帖数: 592 | 6 握手。我们鸟公司也染上此疾，搞得研发部乌烟瘴气，鸡飞狗跳。各色会议繁文缛节自
不必说，从此无人也无法关心产品长期走向和质量，目光只在当前三个星期的狗屎故事
，偷工减料是必须的了。
我去参加了两天的scrum培训，尼玛全他妈是狗屁不通，不着边际的胡扯。我看丫培训
挣钱比丫狗屁编程来钱快多了。
bull shit, period. because 95% of energy is wasted on doing nothing
productive.
【在 p******g 的大作中提到】
: whatever method that requires frequent releases and meetings is a piece of bull shit, period. because 95% of energy is wasted on doing nothing productive.
: just deliver the f**king product.
:
: learned
: Programming"
: project
| b***i
发帖数: 3043 | 7 其实程序员每天只能全心投入3个小时，所以其他时间就讨论呗。
好在不用讨论大扩号放在哪一行，变量名是否要有_
【在 p*a 的大作中提到】
: 握手。我们鸟公司也染上此疾，搞得研发部乌烟瘴气，鸡飞狗跳。各色会议繁文缛节自
: 不必说，从此无人也无法关心产品长期走向和质量，目光只在当前三个星期的狗屎故事
: ，偷工减料是必须的了。
: 我去参加了两天的scrum培训，尼玛全他妈是狗屁不通，不着边际的胡扯。我看丫培训
: 挣钱比丫狗屁编程来钱快多了。
:
: bull shit, period. because 95% of energy is wasted on doing nothing
: productive.
| c****8
发帖数: 407 | 8 LOL... That's why I am so confusing... The development manage did not do
anything to enforce it, claiming it won't work. Sometime, we did things similar to Scrum, but sometime, it does not.
Anyway, my company is getting more and more "bs" stuffs... The company
expanded with so many managers and designers who love meetings, but none of them seems to really understand the system well enough... | h**********c
发帖数: 4120 | 9 Who delivers the product, whose methods recognized. that is ONLY if methods.
not if methods then product.
methodoloy 1st chapter in SW is KISS.
Then,
SRS, SDD, STP
I believe 1 and 3 are quite useful. 2 takes too much time.
This is the textbook methodoloy.
The scrum guys seem trying to do none of them. We have so many master minds
of race conditions. The frequency of fwords rock high.This is not the fault
of scrums. | c****8
发帖数: 407 | 10
methods.
minds
fault
KISS - keep it simple and stupid.
SRS - software requirement and spec
SDD - software design description
and STP?? Do you mean STD - software test document?
【在 h**********c 的大作中提到】
: Who delivers the product, whose methods recognized. that is ONLY if methods.
: not if methods then product.
: methodoloy 1st chapter in SW is KISS.
: Then,
: SRS, SDD, STP
: I believe 1 and 3 are quite useful. 2 takes too much time.
: This is the textbook methodoloy.
: The scrum guys seem trying to do none of them. We have so many master minds
: of race conditions. The frequency of fwords rock high.This is not the fault
: of scrums.
| t*****o
发帖数: 4919 | 11 right, scrum is not going on very well in my company.
bull shit, period. because 95% of energy is wasted on doing nothing
productive.
【在 p******g 的大作中提到】
: whatever method that requires frequent releases and meetings is a piece of bull shit, period. because 95% of energy is wasted on doing nothing productive.
: just deliver the f**king product.
:
: learned
: Programming"
: project
| h**********c
发帖数: 4120 | 12 test plan
if test document, it is not longer dev. it is the manual, cash in.
【在 c****8 的大作中提到】
:
: methods.
: minds
: fault
: KISS - keep it simple and stupid.
: SRS - software requirement and spec
: SDD - software design description
: and STP?? Do you mean STD - software test document?
| b*****e
发帖数: 474 | 13 Scrum is probably more about project management.
To ensure software quality, (1) review (code/design)
(2) testing
learned
Programming"
project
【在 c****8 的大作中提到】
: Hi guys...
: I work for a small company for a few years. When I was in school, I learned
: about SDLC and Waterfall model.
: In company that I worked, we talked about we should do "Extreme Programming"
: , "Scrum Development" and "Agile" etc for a while. However, even we kept
: mentioning those terms once a while, I did not really feel we followed any
: of those methodologies. We may use some ideas such as breaking down project
: to small and frequent release, having frequent meeting between developers
: and user groups and having a close teamwork etc. However, when it comes to
: deadline, it seems the only methodology is to do whatever we can to do to
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