n****s 发帖数: 137 | 1 Hi, All:
I do understand 为什么有人喜欢EverGreen ?
很远,很偏, 周围又没有什么工作机会
是不是前几年经济bubble的后遗症 ?
当时几年前, 经济bubble, Cisco, IBM号称等要在South San Jose建厂。
现在也不建了。
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r****o 发帖数: 3918 | 2 因为有学区好又能afford的房子
你口误了
【在 n****s 的大作中提到】 : Hi, All: : I do understand 为什么有人喜欢EverGreen ? : 很远,很偏, 周围又没有什么工作机会 : 是不是前几年经济bubble的后遗症 ? : 当时几年前, 经济bubble, Cisco, IBM号称等要在South San Jose建厂。 : 现在也不建了。 : Thanks,
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n****s 发帖数: 137 | 3 Is EverGreen 学区好 ?
【在 r****o 的大作中提到】 : 因为有学区好又能afford的房子 : : 你口误了
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f*******5 发帖数: 1815 | 4 Evergreen houses are bigger, newer and sunnier,
if you have lived in such house for 1 week, you would never want to live in
the small, dark old house in Cupertino or sunnyvale.
but Evergreen traffic congestion is very very bad. otherwise everyone should
buy house there instead of in cupertino, sunnyvale or palo alto. |
s**********l 发帖数: 8966 | 5 那还不如买pleasanton,那边其实更快一些。
in
【在 f*******5 的大作中提到】 : Evergreen houses are bigger, newer and sunnier, : if you have lived in such house for 1 week, you would never want to live in : the small, dark old house in Cupertino or sunnyvale. : but Evergreen traffic congestion is very very bad. otherwise everyone should : buy house there instead of in cupertino, sunnyvale or palo alto.
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r*****n 发帖数: 964 | 6 同样不看好evergreen的未来。房子会旧的,学区几年前相对是不错的。现在warm
spring和95132也都上来了,还有milpitas。那几块地方交通和工作机会都好很多。 |
t*****9 发帖数: 10416 | 7 真正有money的人 自然要住palo alto 的小黑屋 ~~~~~~~~~~lol |
t*****9 发帖数: 10416 | 8 smell 比 milpitas 好吧?
【在 r*****n 的大作中提到】 : 同样不看好evergreen的未来。房子会旧的,学区几年前相对是不错的。现在warm : spring和95132也都上来了,还有milpitas。那几块地方交通和工作机会都好很多。
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l******n 发帖数: 390 | 9 但是那里臭,基本每次在237上往东走离880不远就开始有臭味,一直伴随我上880往北
,再在走mission接近680臭味才减弱,尤其是雨后过晴,味太大。
还好我一周只去一次办公室,每周只是路过享用几分钟,住那里的得多难受。
【在 r*****n 的大作中提到】 : 同样不看好evergreen的未来。房子会旧的,学区几年前相对是不错的。现在warm : spring和95132也都上来了,还有milpitas。那几块地方交通和工作机会都好很多。
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n****s 发帖数: 137 | 10 Bigger maybe, but sunnier, why ?
Newer ? house will become old.
If 交通不方便, will the community become worse in future ?
What do you think ?
in
should
【在 f*******5 的大作中提到】 : Evergreen houses are bigger, newer and sunnier, : if you have lived in such house for 1 week, you would never want to live in : the small, dark old house in Cupertino or sunnyvale. : but Evergreen traffic congestion is very very bad. otherwise everyone should : buy house there instead of in cupertino, sunnyvale or palo alto.
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s****2 发帖数: 59 | 11 沿着880的地方味道大一些,不过靠近680情况就好很多,一年能闻到味道的日子很少,
考虑到便利的交通,性价比其实很高。
其实情况就是这样,有人觉得一天上下班开两三个小时的车没什麽,一年有几天会闻到
味道却让他们不能忍受,这也不属于正常人的理解范围。
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】 : 但是那里臭,基本每次在237上往东走离880不远就开始有臭味,一直伴随我上880往北 : ,再在走mission接近680臭味才减弱,尤其是雨后过晴,味太大。 : 还好我一周只去一次办公室,每周只是路过享用几分钟,住那里的得多难受。
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S**********r 发帖数: 1410 | 12 15mile to Milpitas, Santa Clara, not bad.
【在 n****s 的大作中提到】 : Hi, All: : I do understand 为什么有人喜欢EverGreen ? : 很远,很偏, 周围又没有什么工作机会 : 是不是前几年经济bubble的后遗症 ? : 当时几年前, 经济bubble, Cisco, IBM号称等要在South San Jose建厂。 : 现在也不建了。 : Thanks,
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r*****n 发帖数: 964 | 13 没错,沿880是比较槽糕。但是680以东是没有任何影响的。95132更是远在辐射范围之
外。在学区差距缩小的情况下,我认为吸引力会超过evergreen.
而且就算考虑了warm spring受气味影响的因素,它的学区赶上evergreen也是不争的事
实,房价也更高。这说明交通和就业机会对房市的影响比房子大而新要重要的多,而且
进而影响学区。
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】 : 但是那里臭,基本每次在237上往东走离880不远就开始有臭味,一直伴随我上880往北 : ,再在走mission接近680臭味才减弱,尤其是雨后过晴,味太大。 : 还好我一周只去一次办公室,每周只是路过享用几分钟,住那里的得多难受。
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l******c 发帖数: 2555 | 14 臭味 is not a big issue. When I drive along 85 from Los Gatos to Saratoga to
Cupertino, all good area, also have 臭味.
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】 : 但是那里臭,基本每次在237上往东走离880不远就开始有臭味,一直伴随我上880往北 : ,再在走mission接近680臭味才减弱,尤其是雨后过晴,味太大。 : 还好我一周只去一次办公室,每周只是路过享用几分钟,住那里的得多难受。
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S**********r 发帖数: 1410 | 15 just some numbers FYI, 至于好不好个人定义不同:-)
Tom Matsumoto Elem: 981
Chaboya Middle: 924
Evergreen High: 839
【在 n****s 的大作中提到】 : Is EverGreen 学区好 ?
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i***1 发帖数: 2534 | 16 95131 + 上私立。。。
【在 r*****n 的大作中提到】 : 没错,沿880是比较槽糕。但是680以东是没有任何影响的。95132更是远在辐射范围之 : 外。在学区差距缩小的情况下,我认为吸引力会超过evergreen. : 而且就算考虑了warm spring受气味影响的因素,它的学区赶上evergreen也是不争的事 : 实,房价也更高。这说明交通和就业机会对房市的影响比房子大而新要重要的多,而且 : 进而影响学区。
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S**********r 发帖数: 1410 | 17 不是一个数量级
to
【在 l******c 的大作中提到】 : 臭味 is not a big issue. When I drive along 85 from Los Gatos to Saratoga to : Cupertino, all good area, also have 臭味.
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l******c 发帖数: 2555 | 18 evergreen, newer bigger house, sunny, bright, green
BUT next to huge mexican & vietnamese communites
traffic is not so bad
【在 n****s 的大作中提到】 : Hi, All: : I do understand 为什么有人喜欢EverGreen ? : 很远,很偏, 周围又没有什么工作机会 : 是不是前几年经济bubble的后遗症 ? : 当时几年前, 经济bubble, Cisco, IBM号称等要在South San Jose建厂。 : 现在也不建了。 : Thanks,
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n****s 发帖数: 137 | 19 > traffic is not so bad
to where ? Evergreen is far from everywhere, 附近没有工作机会吧 ?
【在 l******c 的大作中提到】 : evergreen, newer bigger house, sunny, bright, green : BUT next to huge mexican & vietnamese communites : traffic is not so bad
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l******c 发帖数: 2555 | 20 still in san jose, local to sunnyvale, santa clara
【在 n****s 的大作中提到】 : > traffic is not so bad : to where ? Evergreen is far from everywhere, 附近没有工作机会吧 ?
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r***q 发帖数: 229 | 21 It's your personal choice. Although Evergreen is a little far away, traffic
is seldom a problem for me. I live there and commute to Sunnyvale everyday.
It takes about 25 minutes one way. Besides the good schools, you can get a
relatively larger and newer (~10-year old) house comparing to Cupertino and
PA. For anyone who does not need ranch 99 within walking distance or prefers
brighter houses over 小黑屋, Evergreen is not a bad choice.
【在 n****s 的大作中提到】 : Hi, All: : I do understand 为什么有人喜欢EverGreen ? : 很远,很偏, 周围又没有什么工作机会 : 是不是前几年经济bubble的后遗症 ? : 当时几年前, 经济bubble, Cisco, IBM号称等要在South San Jose建厂。 : 现在也不建了。 : Thanks,
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m******y 发帖数: 114 | 22 25分钟是非上下班时间吧?
traffic
.
and
prefers
【在 r***q 的大作中提到】 : It's your personal choice. Although Evergreen is a little far away, traffic : is seldom a problem for me. I live there and commute to Sunnyvale everyday. : It takes about 25 minutes one way. Besides the good schools, you can get a : relatively larger and newer (~10-year old) house comparing to Cupertino and : PA. For anyone who does not need ranch 99 within walking distance or prefers : brighter houses over 小黑屋, Evergreen is not a bad choice.
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k***t 发帖数: 276 | 23
Modern floor plan is nice, and trees and trails the builder built for the
relatively new community. When those get older and outdated, we are heading
towards the retirement anyway.
Not trying to judge choosing Evergreen is right or wrong, just to emphasize that newer houses and communities have at least one advantage.
【在 n****s 的大作中提到】 : Bigger maybe, but sunnier, why ? : Newer ? house will become old. : If 交通不方便, will the community become worse in future ? : What do you think ? : : in : should
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b*****g 发帖数: 983 | 24 evergreen交通还好啦,去南湾上班都是30分钟以内啦。如果去ibm,csco都是15分钟搞
定。
生活还方便啦,中国超市一大堆。
学区还好啦,小学,初中就是10分,高中9分。
房子还亮堂啦,随便一个房子,放pa没有2,3个m都拿不下啦
【在 n****s 的大作中提到】 : Hi, All: : I do understand 为什么有人喜欢EverGreen ? : 很远,很偏, 周围又没有什么工作机会 : 是不是前几年经济bubble的后遗症 ? : 当时几年前, 经济bubble, Cisco, IBM号称等要在South San Jose建厂。 : 现在也不建了。 : Thanks,
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f*******5 发帖数: 1815 | 25 Warm Spring very 臭, Milpitas 臭 if close to 880,
if buy Milpitas, try buy buy close to 680, or better east of 680.
very little smell if east of Park Victoria
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】 : 但是那里臭,基本每次在237上往东走离880不远就开始有臭味,一直伴随我上880往北 : ,再在走mission接近680臭味才减弱,尤其是雨后过晴,味太大。 : 还好我一周只去一次办公室,每周只是路过享用几分钟,住那里的得多难受。
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f*******5 发帖数: 1815 | 26 newer house has better architecture, ceilings are higher, bigger and better
positioned windows, inside looks much sunnier.
also newer house has better insulation, feel cool in summer and warm in
winter.
【在 n****s 的大作中提到】 : Bigger maybe, but sunnier, why ? : Newer ? house will become old. : If 交通不方便, will the community become worse in future ? : What do you think ? : : in : should
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f*******5 发帖数: 1815 | 27 traffic during commute hours are very very bad.
【在 l******c 的大作中提到】 : evergreen, newer bigger house, sunny, bright, green : BUT next to huge mexican & vietnamese communites : traffic is not so bad
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f*******5 发帖数: 1815 | 28 new houses in Evergreen has some common problems: lots are smaller, street
are narrower, very tiny driveways and almost no on street parking. this
may be a very big problem if you want to park outside or when you have
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b*****g 发帖数: 983 | 29 very very bad means 30 minutes for 20 miles one way commute ...
I have no idea why people keep saying traffic is very very bad ...
It is same (probably better) traffic situation from MSJ to south bay.
【在 f*******5 的大作中提到】 : traffic during commute hours are very very bad.
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b*****g 发帖数: 983 | 30 it is only true for very limited area, eg. those 2-unit zones. But those R2
SFHs have 3 car garage ... For most area, parking is plenty.
Evergree streets are actually much wider than those in PA, cupertino, etc ...
street
【在 f*******5 的大作中提到】 : new houses in Evergreen has some common problems: lots are smaller, street : are narrower, very tiny driveways and almost no on street parking. this : may be a very big problem if you want to park outside or when you have : friends come visisting.
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d****a 发帖数: 492 | 31 那还不如买San Ramon,. The schools (K -12) are even better than EverGreen,
Pleasanton, even better than most of Cupertino schools. |
f*******5 发帖数: 1815 | 32 long drive, spend at least 2 hours each day on the road, very bad for life
quality.
and more chance for accidents.
【在 d****a 的大作中提到】 : 那还不如买San Ramon,. The schools (K -12) are even better than EverGreen, : Pleasanton, even better than most of Cupertino schools.
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k***t 发帖数: 276 | 33 San Ramon is not in Bay Area :)
at least not next to South Bay.
【在 d****a 的大作中提到】 : 那还不如买San Ramon,. The schools (K -12) are even better than EverGreen, : Pleasanton, even better than most of Cupertino schools.
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S**********r 发帖数: 1410 | 34 越扯越远了
【在 d****a 的大作中提到】 : 那还不如买San Ramon,. The schools (K -12) are even better than EverGreen, : Pleasanton, even better than most of Cupertino schools.
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b******d 发帖数: 2495 | 35 新房子确实好,无论是结构,还是用料。
另外我听说新房子的设计可以防止白蚁。说是只要离开地面18英寸高没有木头。
白蚁就不会做窝。所以新房子的下面都不是木头做的。这是真的吗?
我有次看见一些长翅膀的蚂蚁。问那个建筑商,他说的。
better
【在 f*******5 的大作中提到】 : newer house has better architecture, ceilings are higher, bigger and better : positioned windows, inside looks much sunnier. : also newer house has better insulation, feel cool in summer and warm in : winter.
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c**l 发帖数: 324 | 36
大家都要住房子,有人喜欢大而新的房子,又一时凑不齐买Palo Alto 的钱,就选不在
乎远近。
有足够钱买PAlo Alto 谁愿意在路上耗着呢?
【在 n****s 的大作中提到】 : Hi, All: : I do understand 为什么有人喜欢EverGreen ? : 很远,很偏, 周围又没有什么工作机会 : 是不是前几年经济bubble的后遗症 ? : 当时几年前, 经济bubble, Cisco, IBM号称等要在South San Jose建厂。 : 现在也不建了。 : Thanks,
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d**********7 发帖数: 41 | 37 No offense, but unless you count the closest points between both sides, I
would bet with you for 15 mins one way to/from cisco:) any hour, you pick.
I used to live in evergreen and work in the area around cisco campus. my
personal experience, traffic was a nightmare. I tried every route (highway
101/880/680, local), and different timing (but generally still commute hours
), 35~40 mins was the fair amount for one way.
【在 b*****g 的大作中提到】 : evergreen交通还好啦,去南湾上班都是30分钟以内啦。如果去ibm,csco都是15分钟搞 : 定。 : 生活还方便啦,中国超市一大堆。 : 学区还好啦,小学,初中就是10分,高中9分。 : 房子还亮堂啦,随便一个房子,放pa没有2,3个m都拿不下啦
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c*****r 发帖数: 529 | |
s****e 发帖数: 139 | 39 EverGreen最大的问题是上面那个锡克教神庙.周围还住着一群缠头. |
s*******f 发帖数: 2718 | 40 这我得说句实话,交通是够差的。
我的投资房在 evergreen, 公司在 Sunnyvale, 早上9:30以后,大概20多分钟就
能到。但是101从下午2-3点就开始堵,烦死了。只要下午约了人,通常开1个小时以上。
大家也就是因为 traffic, 不太愿意租那边的房子。
同事有十几个住那边,当然是为了孩子上好学校,住大房子,他们全都 carpool.
我觉得是价钱和辛苦折中吧。第一,carpool 之后可能还行,比较起几十万房钱,忍了。
第二,同事多半老婆不工作,反正要开也就是老公一个人辛苦,老婆可以非 peak hour
再出门。生活马马虎虎还算方便。就是自己做饭吃还算方便,在外面吃,没什么选择。
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b*****g 发帖数: 983 | 41 这个为啥是个问题?
那个在山上,周围也没啥民居呀
【在 s****e 的大作中提到】 : EverGreen最大的问题是上面那个锡克教神庙.周围还住着一群缠头.
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z*0 发帖数: 852 | 42 evergreen的还有问题是靠近101的那个莫莫区,湾区最差的区之一,每天通勤都得过,
Tully附近的路也非常非常堵,现在改connector不知道是否有效,但这个路如果弄顺了,
上来的101可能更堵,evergreen综合来说和pleasanton差不多,所以房价也差不多. |
b*****g 发帖数: 983 | 43 Very interesting
My wife was told exactly the same story by her cowork many times until we
moved to evergreen ...
So, maybe it is more about personal driving habit; or maybe traffic
situation got improved recently?
hours
【在 d**********7 的大作中提到】 : No offense, but unless you count the closest points between both sides, I : would bet with you for 15 mins one way to/from cisco:) any hour, you pick. : I used to live in evergreen and work in the area around cisco campus. my : personal experience, traffic was a nightmare. I tried every route (highway : 101/880/680, local), and different timing (but generally still commute hours : ), 35~40 mins was the fair amount for one way.
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l******c 发帖数: 2555 | 44 My concern Evergreen:
1. mexican
2. vietnamese
【在 z*0 的大作中提到】 : evergreen的还有问题是靠近101的那个莫莫区,湾区最差的区之一,每天通勤都得过, : Tully附近的路也非常非常堵,现在改connector不知道是否有效,但这个路如果弄顺了, : 上来的101可能更堵,evergreen综合来说和pleasanton差不多,所以房价也差不多.
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d**********7 发帖数: 41 | 45 summer is usually better, due to school holidays.
and if you go to work after 9:30 and get back after 7, much better too.
in short, i think the commute time for traffic hours is in general twice as
much as otherwise.
【在 b*****g 的大作中提到】 : Very interesting : My wife was told exactly the same story by her cowork many times until we : moved to evergreen ... : So, maybe it is more about personal driving habit; or maybe traffic : situation got improved recently? : : hours
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n****s 发帖数: 137 | 46 Thanks for sharing your experience.
以你的经验,投资房买在EverGreen是否是个明智之举 ?
Thanks,
上。
了。
hour
【在 s*******f 的大作中提到】 : 这我得说句实话,交通是够差的。 : 我的投资房在 evergreen, 公司在 Sunnyvale, 早上9:30以后,大概20多分钟就 : 能到。但是101从下午2-3点就开始堵,烦死了。只要下午约了人,通常开1个小时以上。 : 大家也就是因为 traffic, 不太愿意租那边的房子。 : 同事有十几个住那边,当然是为了孩子上好学校,住大房子,他们全都 carpool. : 我觉得是价钱和辛苦折中吧。第一,carpool 之后可能还行,比较起几十万房钱,忍了。 : 第二,同事多半老婆不工作,反正要开也就是老公一个人辛苦,老婆可以非 peak hour : 再出门。生活马马虎虎还算方便。就是自己做饭吃还算方便,在外面吃,没什么选择。 : 社区环境很好。
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