d****n
发帖数: 277 | 1 为啥REVIEW那么差？这个应该是跟GOOG一样HOT的公司吧？ |
T******0
发帖数: 1071 | |
q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 3 where's your # from?
【在 T******0 的大作中提到】
: Profit down 95%.
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d****n
发帖数: 277 | 4 瞎编的吧。应该很赚钱的。不过感觉这公司就象一列装了时速炸弹的火车，不能停下来
，必须不停推出新的游戏，不然就没了。这应该是ZYNGA跟BLIZZARD最大的区别吧？
【在 q****x 的大作中提到】
: where's your # from?
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q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 5 http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1439404/000119312511253371/d
好像也不算特赚钱。2011半年营收522M，净收入才18M，现在估值15B。P/E和P/S都不低。
而且一年内人数翻番有点吓人。
【在 d****n 的大作中提到】
: 瞎编的吧。应该很赚钱的。不过感觉这公司就象一列装了时速炸弹的火车，不能停下来
: ，必须不停推出新的游戏，不然就没了。这应该是ZYNGA跟BLIZZARD最大的区别吧？
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a********m
发帖数: 15480 | 6 casual游戏市场门槛低，容易被追上，压力肯定大，必须不断走在别人前面。
【在 d****n 的大作中提到】
: 瞎编的吧。应该很赚钱的。不过感觉这公司就象一列装了时速炸弹的火车，不能停下来
: ，必须不停推出新的游戏，不然就没了。这应该是ZYNGA跟BLIZZARD最大的区别吧？
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d****n
发帖数: 277 | 7 LNKD: ttm net income: 21.04M
ZYNGA半年18M, 看上去好不少。
低。
【在 q****x 的大作中提到】
: http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1439404/000119312511253371/d
: 好像也不算特赚钱。2011半年营收522M，净收入才18M，现在估值15B。P/E和P/S都不低。
: 而且一年内人数翻番有点吓人。
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q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 8 LNKD没对手。
Z有ERTS和ATVI。最新的Sim Social势头很猛。
【在 d****n 的大作中提到】
: LNKD: ttm net income: 21.04M
: ZYNGA半年18M, 看上去好不少。
:
: 低。
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t*********e
发帖数: 1136 | 9 Zynga 就是一世纪大骗子。$15B? 真是开国际玩笑。做游戏的有哪个公司能长久的？完
全是时尚而已。ERTS的营收是 $3.7B/年，才$7B的Market Cap，还有$1.8B 的cash, no
debt。净市值才 $5B左右。 |
r*******e
发帖数: 7583 | |
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q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 11 erts eps < 0.
no
【在 t*********e 的大作中提到】
: Zynga 就是一世纪大骗子。$15B? 真是开国际玩笑。做游戏的有哪个公司能长久的？完
: 全是时尚而已。ERTS的营收是 $3.7B/年，才$7B的Market Cap，还有$1.8B 的cash, no
: debt。净市值才 $5B左右。
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q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 12 二手货。Forbes 9/23的。
revenue在增长。但是雇人太快。
【在 r*******e 的大作中提到】
: 你们都不看IT新闻的么
: http://www.technobuffalo.com/gaming/platform-gaming/zyngas-prof
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P**********c
发帖数: 3417 | 13 LinkedIn was valued around 4B for the IPO. After IPO it went to 8B. It never
aimed at the level that Zynga did.
Zynga's employee base is already bigger than Facebook, before IPO. Plus it doesn't pay very well besides the stock options. I do feel it is not the best place to work, certainly not comparable to Google. People have to take into consideration how stable google's stock is compared to the social companies, and its benefits is still unmatched.
All these companies try to look like google but they are not, at least not yet for now. They have free lunch but with very few choices. Their benefits are not that good. Facebook doesn't have 401k match, for example. Their stocks are priced at a very high P/E ratio, whether on the open market or the second market, and can collapse any day if they don't keep 100~200% growth potential in the next few years (that even includes Amazon, not just the new social companies). Don't get me wrong. They are full of smart people, are fine places to work if you are willing to take some risk and learn new stuff and prepare for the next big thing, but they are not comparable to an established company like google.
They could be as great as, or even better than google, but they are not now by any possible measurement metric.
【在 d****n 的大作中提到】
: LNKD: ttm net income: 21.04M
: ZYNGA半年18M, 看上去好不少。
:
: 低。
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s*****m
发帖数: 8094 | 14 狗狗的benefits也就这么回事儿吧。
never
doesn't pay very well besides the stock options. I do feel it is not the
best place to work, certainly not comparable to Google. People have to take
into consideration how stable google's stock is compared to the social
companies, and its benefits is still unmatched.
yet for now. They have free lunch but with very few choices. Their benefits
are not that good. Facebook doesn't have 401k match, for example. Their
stocks are priced at a very high P/E ratio, whether on the open market or
the second market, and can collapse any day if they don't keep 100~200%
growth potential in the next few years. Don't get me wrong. They are full
of smart people, are fine places to work if you are wil: ling to take some
risk and learn new stuff and prepare for the next big thing, but they are
not comparable to an established company like google.
【在 P**********c 的大作中提到】
: LinkedIn was valued around 4B for the IPO. After IPO it went to 8B. It never
: aimed at the level that Zynga did.
: Zynga's employee base is already bigger than Facebook, before IPO. Plus it doesn't pay very well besides the stock options. I do feel it is not the best place to work, certainly not comparable to Google. People have to take into consideration how stable google's stock is compared to the social companies, and its benefits is still unmatched.
: All these companies try to look like google but they are not, at least not yet for now. They have free lunch but with very few choices. Their benefits are not that good. Facebook doesn't have 401k match, for example. Their stocks are priced at a very high P/E ratio, whether on the open market or the second market, and can collapse any day if they don't keep 100~200% growth potential in the next few years (that even includes Amazon, not just the new social companies). Don't get me wrong. They are full of smart people, are fine places to work if you are willing to take some risk and learn new stuff and prepare for the next big thing, but they are not comparable to an established company like google.
: They could be as great as, or even better than google, but they are not now by any possible measurement metric.
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q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 15 name a few whose benefits close to google.
take
benefits
【在 s*****m 的大作中提到】
: 狗狗的benefits也就这么回事儿吧。
:
: never
: doesn't pay very well besides the stock options. I do feel it is not the
: best place to work, certainly not comparable to Google. People have to take
: into consideration how stable google's stock is compared to the social
: companies, and its benefits is still unmatched.
: yet for now. They have free lunch but with very few choices. Their benefits
: are not that good. Facebook doesn't have 401k match, for example. Their
: stocks are priced at a very high P/E ratio, whether on the open market or
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s*****m
发帖数: 8094 | 16 让那几个一天到晚20w+的主name。我知道相当多的狗狗的普通硅工远没有20w。
即便老年不加股票也有不少人没到20w。士大夫不知到，但毕竟少之又少，认识的人里
只有一个。
【在 q****x 的大作中提到】
: name a few whose benefits close to google.
:
: take
: benefits
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P**********c
发帖数: 3417 | 17 You don't have to be sarcastic all the time. People get it. Plus
compensation is different from benefits. For benefits, we are talking about
free lunch, onsite massage, high 401k match, etc. Not money in hand for now.
【在 s*****m 的大作中提到】
: 让那几个一天到晚20w+的主name。我知道相当多的狗狗的普通硅工远没有20w。
: 即便老年不加股票也有不少人没到20w。士大夫不知到，但毕竟少之又少，认识的人里
: 只有一个。
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q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 18 说的是加股票。
【在 s*****m 的大作中提到】
: 让那几个一天到晚20w+的主name。我知道相当多的狗狗的普通硅工远没有20w。
: 即便老年不加股票也有不少人没到20w。士大夫不知到，但毕竟少之又少，认识的人里
: 只有一个。
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g*******1
发帖数: 488 | 19 人家低调而已~~~
【在 s*****m 的大作中提到】
: 让那几个一天到晚20w+的主name。我知道相当多的狗狗的普通硅工远没有20w。
: 即便老年不加股票也有不少人没到20w。士大夫不知到，但毕竟少之又少，认识的人里
: 只有一个。
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j*****g
发帖数: 739 | 20 Zynga的人或family associate,对Zynga讲的很好，就是有点夸大了，什么免费午餐就
不用上台面了吧。
never
doesn't pay very well besides the stock options. I do feel it is not the
best place to work, certainly not comparable to Google. People have to take
into consideration how stable google's stock is compared to the social
companies, and its benefits is still unmatched.
yet for now. They have free lunch but with very few choices. Their benefits
are not that good. Facebook doesn't have 401k match, for example. Their
stocks are priced at a very high P/E ratio, whether on the open market or
the second market, and can collapse any day if they don't keep 100~200%
growth potential in the next few years (that even includes Amazon, not just
the new social companies). Don't get me wrong. They a: re full of smart
people, are fine places to work if you are willing to take some risk and
learn new stuff and prepare for the next big thing, but they are not
comparable to an established company like google.
now by any possible measurement metric.
【在 P**********c 的大作中提到】
: You don't have to be sarcastic all the time. People get it. Plus
: compensation is different from benefits. For benefits, we are talking about
: free lunch, onsite massage, high 401k match, etc. Not money in hand for now.
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q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 21 到底好不好？
take
benefits
【在 j*****g 的大作中提到】
: Zynga的人或family associate,对Zynga讲的很好，就是有点夸大了，什么免费午餐就
: 不用上台面了吧。
:
: never
: doesn't pay very well besides the stock options. I do feel it is not the
: best place to work, certainly not comparable to Google. People have to take
: into consideration how stable google's stock is compared to the social
: companies, and its benefits is still unmatched.
: yet for now. They have free lunch but with very few choices. Their benefits
: are not that good. Facebook doesn't have 401k match, for example. Their
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j****n
发帖数: 4358 | 22 Zynga蛮好的，停大方的
【在 d****n 的大作中提到】
: 为啥REVIEW那么差？这个应该是跟GOOG一样HOT的公司吧？
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s*****m
发帖数: 8094 | 23
sarcastic？我啥时候sarcastic了？
about
now.
那些个小恩小惠加起来10k都没有。
【在 P**********c 的大作中提到】
: You don't have to be sarcastic all the time. People get it. Plus
: compensation is different from benefits. For benefits, we are talking about
: free lunch, onsite massage, high 401k match, etc. Not money in hand for now.
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s*****m
发帖数: 8094 | 24 sign-on的那些不算的话（那些每个人都可能很不一样）
也就几十k了不起了，加一块儿也就刚过200k
【在 q****x 的大作中提到】
: 说的是加股票。
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s*****m
发帖数: 8094 | 25 士大夫是明的，没法低调
【在 g*******1 的大作中提到】
: 人家低调而已~~~
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