l*****n
发帖数: 150 | 1 有谁比较了解？
我暂时知道：
１。两者都是政府拿钱 （学区？ 州里？ 市里？）
２。ＣＨＡＲＴＥＲ需要家长做ＶＯＬＵＮＴＥＥＲ 很多ＨＯＵＲ，比如我听说ＳＣ
一个是需要家长每天２个ＨＯＵＲ，小孩才可以加入抽签。
我的疑问是，为啥不能把公立的小学办好？ 想到的几个问题是：
１。教师工会的一手遮天
２。学区内生源参差不齐，有些父母不太愿意花时间在小孩身上，对肯花时间的父母不
公平，导致整个学区水平下降。 | M*******c
发帖数: 4371 | 2 You listed two every important points here.
Because of prop 13 and the huge amount of students we have in the CA. Each
student received very limited amount of funding. This results in low teacher
to student ratio.
Responsible parents are devoting extra effort to help the teacher. The man
hours and donation from these parents are expensive as well. You could
imagine why these parents would not like to share this resource with those
irresponsible parents. This is not just charter schools.
As for teacher's quality? teacher association has played an ugly role here.
That is another topic. As I have calculated before, were it not for prop 13
and the high birth rate with certain community, we might afford to pay the
teachers better and have a lower teacher to student ratio.
Raising kids in a modern society is not an easy task, good planning and
responsible behavior is the foundation. The government played another ugly
role. In order to gain votes, DEM promotes the freebies to encourage
irresponsible behavior.
Teen pregnancy and ultra high birth rate would destroy these communities and
put an heavy burden on all other residents.
【在 l*****n 的大作中提到】
: 有谁比较了解？
: 我暂时知道：
: １。两者都是政府拿钱 （学区？ 州里？ 市里？）
: ２。ＣＨＡＲＴＥＲ需要家长做ＶＯＬＵＮＴＥＥＲ 很多ＨＯＵＲ，比如我听说ＳＣ
: 一个是需要家长每天２个ＨＯＵＲ，小孩才可以加入抽签。
: 我的疑问是，为啥不能把公立的小学办好？ 想到的几个问题是：
: １。教师工会的一手遮天
: ２。学区内生源参差不齐，有些父母不太愿意花时间在小孩身上，对肯花时间的父母不
: 公平，导致整个学区水平下降。
| l*****n
发帖数: 150 | 3 昨天位育的主要推动者在威信解惑了一些..
他说的有:
1. 的确CHARTER会和公立争FUNDING.
2. 每个CHARTER的侧重点不同,招生要求也不同,比如VOLUTEER 的那个规定,不是每个
CHARTER 都有.
3. CHARTER会想希望家长多参与,家长参与的学校一般活动多,捐款多,相应办的也比较
好.
其实第三点也可以在公校看出来,比较好的公校其实PTA也很强.
位育本身是想要填补小学没有中文学校的空白.他说到中文双语的学前班很多,高中有中
文课程的也不少.但是小学类似的基本没有.
我记得学中文这一点,有次和几个朋友有过讨论,比如送娃娃去有中文的AFTERSCHOOL够
不够。在美国的小朋友如果学中文会不会影响英文。如果有选择你是希望送双语还是就
英文但是中文AFTERSHCHOOL呢〉？
关于PROP13和工资， 其实比如SC 这边学区的教师工资其实不错阿。9万多10 万年薪，
毕竟人家寒暑假都放 （8-9 个月上班时间），而且学校一般2点多3点放学，之后老师
备备课，最多6点也可以下班了吧。之前是听说一般2年后就TENURE，不可以再FIRE。听
当老师的朋友说，每年还是有些REVIEW 程序的。
税的方面以前和FCN的人交流过，他们是FREMONT 的，交的房地产税其实现在很不少，
因为房子武养武阳的造。人口密集，但是交的税收貌似只有小部分是回到FREMONT。 不
少可能支援州里去了。然后就是MEASURE E， 650 M 乱用，前些日子还爆出FREMONT
AMERICAN HIGH 修个屋顶15 米。屋顶阿，15米阿，怎么样节流很重要。 | l*****n
发帖数: 150 | | M*******c
发帖数: 4371 | 5 Most of the funding goes to the pension system first.
You actually confirm the teacher's income once again. Basically, they are
also too greedy. Their hourly rate is way much higher than most of the
engineers in the bay area. The teacher's association achieves this goal by
hoax.
I have done this calculation before.
The teachers' hours are 6 to 7 hours a day, 9 to 10 months each year. They
will received 100% or even higher annual pay for their pension.
Given the current 82 years average life expectancy. Each teacher would work
30 years with at least 20 years pension. That is 66% extra pay for each year.
Given the 90,000 USD year's salary, the actual yearly income for a teacher
is 150,000USD for only 75% of the hours like other workers. And still the
teachers are complaining they are not getting enough pay two days ago.
PROP13, Teacher's association and corruption.
【在 l*****n 的大作中提到】
: 昨天位育的主要推动者在威信解惑了一些..
: 他说的有:
: 1. 的确CHARTER会和公立争FUNDING.
: 2. 每个CHARTER的侧重点不同,招生要求也不同,比如VOLUTEER 的那个规定,不是每个
: CHARTER 都有.
: 3. CHARTER会想希望家长多参与,家长参与的学校一般活动多,捐款多,相应办的也比较
: 好.
: 其实第三点也可以在公校看出来,比较好的公校其实PTA也很强.
: 位育本身是想要填补小学没有中文学校的空白.他说到中文双语的学前班很多,高中有中
: 文课程的也不少.但是小学类似的基本没有.
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