p***t
发帖数: 174 | 1 Total profit: roughly 200k.
# of different stocks traded: around 50
Max gain from a single stock: 60k,
# of stocks whose profit>10k: 5
max loss from a single stock: 3k.
# of stocks whose loss>1k: 2
max holding time for a single stock: 2 months
# of down month: 0
Current cash position: around 90%.
Overall, risk is well controlled, cumulative profit line is highly linear. |
s*******e
发帖数: 740 | 2 纸交很快乐
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: Total profit: roughly 200k.
: # of different stocks traded: around 50
: Max gain from a single stock: 60k,
: # of stocks whose profit>10k: 5
: max loss from a single stock: 3k.
: # of stocks whose loss>1k: 2
: max holding time for a single stock: 2 months
: # of down month: 0
: Current cash position: around 90%.
: Overall, risk is well controlled, cumulative profit line is highly linear.
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T*C
发帖数: 5492 | 3 大神
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: Total profit: roughly 200k.
: # of different stocks traded: around 50
: Max gain from a single stock: 60k,
: # of stocks whose profit>10k: 5
: max loss from a single stock: 3k.
: # of stocks whose loss>1k: 2
: max holding time for a single stock: 2 months
: # of down month: 0
: Current cash position: around 90%.
: Overall, risk is well controlled, cumulative profit line is highly linear.
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C****o
发帖数: 132 | |
p***t
发帖数: 174 | 5 爱信不信。自己没吃过猪肉，估计连猪跑也没见过。不止一次奔过交易记录了。
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: 纸交很快乐
:
:
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a***s
发帖数: 5417 | 6 你奔的不是交易记录，而是盈利记录。
可否奔一下单股盈利6万的交易记录？
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: 爱信不信。自己没吃过猪肉，估计连猪跑也没见过。不止一次奔过交易记录了。
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x*********n
发帖数: 28013 | 7 Do you play option also? Or only stock?
Thanks.
I believe you.
A lot of people just fail to imagine other people's life |
p***t
发帖数: 174 | 8 不要总盯着最大盈利。炒股最重要的是，你能在把损失控制在最小前提下，还能挣多少
。 今年最满意的不是最大盈利，而是最大损失很小。 6万真不算多，以前挣得比这多
，但损失控制的不好。
【在 a***s 的大作中提到】
: 你奔的不是交易记录，而是盈利记录。
: 可否奔一下单股盈利6万的交易记录？
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x*********n
发帖数: 28013 | 9 大侠，你玩option么？还是单纯stock?
求指点。
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: 不要总盯着最大盈利。炒股最重要的是，你能在把损失控制在最小前提下，还能挣多少
: 。 今年最满意的不是最大盈利，而是最大损失很小。 6万真不算多，以前挣得比这多
: ，但损失控制的不好。
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a***s
发帖数: 5417 | 10 你不奔怎么证明你的赢利是真实的呢？
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: 不要总盯着最大盈利。炒股最重要的是，你能在把损失控制在最小前提下，还能挣多少
: 。 今年最满意的不是最大盈利，而是最大损失很小。 6万真不算多，以前挣得比这多
: ，但损失控制的不好。
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o*******s
发帖数: 1375 | 11 大牛有没有用自动Trading.还是全部都是人工的.
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: Total profit: roughly 200k.
: # of different stocks traded: around 50
: Max gain from a single stock: 60k,
: # of stocks whose profit>10k: 5
: max loss from a single stock: 3k.
: # of stocks whose loss>1k: 2
: max holding time for a single stock: 2 months
: # of down month: 0
: Current cash position: around 90%.
: Overall, risk is well controlled, cumulative profit line is highly linear.
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a*****e
发帖数: 16445 | 12 大侠何不公布操作这样同学们也可以向你学习。
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: Total profit: roughly 200k.
: # of different stocks traded: around 50
: Max gain from a single stock: 60k,
: # of stocks whose profit>10k: 5
: max loss from a single stock: 3k.
: # of stocks whose loss>1k: 2
: max holding time for a single stock: 2 months
: # of down month: 0
: Current cash position: around 90%.
: Overall, risk is well controlled, cumulative profit line is highly linear.
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y******z
发帖数: 491 | 13 学习了~听起来是做swing较多，而很少day trade？
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: 不要总盯着最大盈利。炒股最重要的是，你能在把损失控制在最小前提下，还能挣多少
: 。 今年最满意的不是最大盈利，而是最大损失很小。 6万真不算多，以前挣得比这多
: ，但损失控制的不好。
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u**********n
发帖数: 8905 | 14 大神，开个培训班吧，每人交几百或上千，我肯定报名。 |
p***t
发帖数: 174 | 15 差不多，一般做多做swing多，做short是一般是day trade,最多一两天就cover.
【在 y******z 的大作中提到】
: 学习了~听起来是做swing较多，而很少day trade？
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X*********r
发帖数: 11803 | 16 Lihai lihai, very lihai
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: Total profit: roughly 200k.
: # of different stocks traded: around 50
: Max gain from a single stock: 60k,
: # of stocks whose profit>10k: 5
: max loss from a single stock: 3k.
: # of stocks whose loss>1k: 2
: max holding time for a single stock: 2 months
: # of down month: 0
: Current cash position: around 90%.
: Overall, risk is well controlled, cumulative profit line is highly linear.
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p***t
发帖数: 174 | 17 都玩，stock 玩得多。
【在 x*********n 的大作中提到】
: 大侠，你玩option么？还是单纯stock?
: 求指点。
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T*C
发帖数: 5492 | 18 你是全职做这个，还是休闲阿
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: 都玩，stock 玩得多。
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p***t
发帖数: 174 | 19 不敢当，估计还没赶上 spanishfly. 人家是hold stock，然后坐在那，喝着茶，钱就
挣了。我是active trading, 力气活。
【在 u**********n 的大作中提到】
: 大神，开个培训班吧，每人交几百或上千，我肯定报名。
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p***t
发帖数: 174 | 20 有工作，但不太影响炒股。
【在 T*C 的大作中提到】
: 你是全职做这个，还是休闲阿
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r***l
发帖数: 9084 | 21 炒股这东西我觉的是天生性格决定的
【在 u**********n 的大作中提到】
: 大神，开个培训班吧，每人交几百或上千，我肯定报名。
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t**********w
发帖数: 478 | 22 大牛！ 介意不介意透露下return rate哦？ |
p***t
发帖数: 174 | 23 计算return rate，要看分母怎么看了，我的一部分position是cash,轻易不动的。
active trading的钱相对固定。如果分母是active trading money,return 很高了。
如果是全部，可能不是很impressive. 我的增长是linear的，not exponential growth
，因为我不会随着挣跟多的钱而加更大注。
【在 t**********w 的大作中提到】
: 大牛！ 介意不介意透露下return rate哦？
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t**********w
发帖数: 478 | 24 多谢！学习了。
那你操作上还是都采取跟庄吗 还是说已经有控盘的意识了？
growth
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: 计算return rate，要看分母怎么看了，我的一部分position是cash,轻易不动的。
: active trading的钱相对固定。如果分母是active trading money,return 很高了。
: 如果是全部，可能不是很impressive. 我的增长是linear的，not exponential growth
: ，因为我不会随着挣跟多的钱而加更大注。
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K*******n
发帖数: 1466 | 25 谢谢分享！
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.3 |
x****7
发帖数: 895 | 26 Impressive record.
One question here: your max gain is from a single stock, not from a single
trade. Is this right?
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: Total profit: roughly 200k.
: # of different stocks traded: around 50
: Max gain from a single stock: 60k,
: # of stocks whose profit>10k: 5
: max loss from a single stock: 3k.
: # of stocks whose loss>1k: 2
: max holding time for a single stock: 2 months
: # of down month: 0
: Current cash position: around 90%.
: Overall, risk is well controlled, cumulative profit line is highly linear.
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y**a
发帖数: 143 | 27 Da Niu.
如果你能选择一个有代表性的股票,贴出具体的操作,包括第一次买点,加仓/减仓的点位
以及调整的仓位,那将会对版上的众多青蛙有不少帮助.我愿以包子重谢.
我也是自己瞎琢磨,去年40%.今年25%.主要还是运气好,有两只被公司收购的股票,去年
中做空了俩只. 发现最难的就是initial screen. 股票个数太多,没有太多的时间去看,
只好看看版上的热点,看看MAD Money, IBD. 感觉自己操来操去就是那十几二十只股票.
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: Total profit: roughly 200k.
: # of different stocks traded: around 50
: Max gain from a single stock: 60k,
: # of stocks whose profit>10k: 5
: max loss from a single stock: 3k.
: # of stocks whose loss>1k: 2
: max holding time for a single stock: 2 months
: # of down month: 0
: Current cash position: around 90%.
: Overall, risk is well controlled, cumulative profit line is highly linear.
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E******w
发帖数: 2616 | 28 既然控制损失这么重要，大牛能不能公布一下损失3k的trade? 我倒不很关心细节，但
是关心你投入是多少。我觉得这么大的帐户，能把最差损失控制在3k，而且同时还要有
一只股票能赚60k，做到这个ratio应该很不容易吧。
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: 不要总盯着最大盈利。炒股最重要的是，你能在把损失控制在最小前提下，还能挣多少
: 。 今年最满意的不是最大盈利，而是最大损失很小。 6万真不算多，以前挣得比这多
: ，但损失控制的不好。
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p***t
发帖数: 174 | 29 yeah, you are right. the stock I made most money, I longed it, shorted it,
and played options at different points in time.
Usually there are many transactions behind a single stock.
It's a process of repeated stop-loss, starting position, and profit taking.
【在 x****7 的大作中提到】
: Impressive record.
: One question here: your max gain is from a single stock, not from a single
: trade. Is this right?
:
:
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p***t
发帖数: 174 | 30 I went through the same stage as well. In my early years, I had some initial
successes but can't find enough stock to trade to repeat my success. But
after years of accumulation, I had a long watch list of stocks that I have
done tons of research on. And I try to keep up w/ the new development of
these companies. Once the right set-up appears, I can quickly take action
with confidence. Of course, this would take lots of reading of press release
, SEC filings, analyst reports, articles. On my trading desk at home, I have
3 screens set-up, one is for real-time news feed, one is for real time
quote, and one is for operations. When I'm away from home, I heavily rely on
my smart phone for news. Sometimes I think my improved performance these
years partially attributable to my usage of iphone. I can read news and
analysis anywhere I want.
看,
票.
【在 y**a 的大作中提到】
: Da Niu.
: 如果你能选择一个有代表性的股票,贴出具体的操作,包括第一次买点,加仓/减仓的点位
: 以及调整的仓位,那将会对版上的众多青蛙有不少帮助.我愿以包子重谢.
: 我也是自己瞎琢磨,去年40%.今年25%.主要还是运气好,有两只被公司收购的股票,去年
: 中做空了俩只. 发现最难的就是initial screen. 股票个数太多,没有太多的时间去看,
: 只好看看版上的热点,看看MAD Money, IBD. 感觉自己操来操去就是那十几二十只股票.
:
:
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p***t
发帖数: 174 | 31 the biggest loss was coming from a short squeeze. At that time, I could have
chosen to average up to fight. But my initial position is already big, so I
chose cut the loss.
stop-loss is only a small part of the risk control strategies. Most of the
risk control work is actually done even before I start the position. The
time-frame of a trade is very important to me. I have a clear time-frame for
every trade. I usually do a lot of work to study what could happen to my
stock between the time I start the position and the time I close the
position. The things I'll consider include external factors such as
macroeconomic numbers, fed meetings, Greek elections, and internal factors
such as the company's own new development. I just don't want to be caught up
by unexpected bad things.
All these considerations significantly limited what I can play. I never
played energy stocks, bank stocks, or many other big names. For example, oil
/coal stocks are influenced by geo-politics, weather, forex, wars....All
these things are not predictable from my perspective. So I don't play them.
All stocks I played are small and simple, so that I can have a deep
understanding of what could happen to them.
of course, it's just my own style. Many people are good at playing big names.
在 EmMeadow (青山绿水) 的大作中提到: 】 |
h*****6
发帖数: 866 | |
E******w
发帖数: 2616 | 33 谢谢大牛。看了你的经验总结，是不是60K profit on one stock不是一个trade里赚到
的？这样的话，偶尔有3k loss，大部分时间的小profit adds up，还是很合理的。这
样的故事和我了解的其他大牛有很多相似之处。希望能confirm一下。
据我了解的大牛中，除非帐户超大，否则一个trade赚60K的从未听说。而账户超大的却
又不会一次最多只loss 3K了。
have
I
for
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: the biggest loss was coming from a short squeeze. At that time, I could have
: chosen to average up to fight. But my initial position is already big, so I
: chose cut the loss.
: stop-loss is only a small part of the risk control strategies. Most of the
: risk control work is actually done even before I start the position. The
: time-frame of a trade is very important to me. I have a clear time-frame for
: every trade. I usually do a lot of work to study what could happen to my
: stock between the time I start the position and the time I close the
: position. The things I'll consider include external factors such as
: macroeconomic numbers, fed meetings, Greek elections, and internal factors
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x****7
发帖数: 895 | 34 Thanks for the confirmation. I can tell you are a winner without reading
your records.---you have everything in place to be a winner.
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: yeah, you are right. the stock I made most money, I longed it, shorted it,
: and played options at different points in time.
: Usually there are many transactions behind a single stock.
: It's a process of repeated stop-loss, starting position, and profit taking.
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e*****y
发帖数: 41 | |
J*K
发帖数: 331 | 36 Co ask
【在 h*****6 的大作中提到】
: probt 大侠，请问您炒股有几个年头了？
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E******w
发帖数: 2616 | 37 大牛，能不能再问一下，你最大的loss是3K，指得只是退出时的损失，还是包括账面
unrealized loss？作为青蛙，有时候账面损失达到一定规模的时候，总是纠结要不要
继续坚持自己的判断fight下去。所以我想了解一下你是以3K损失为上限，还是对
unrealized loss有更大一点的容忍度。
have
I
for
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: the biggest loss was coming from a short squeeze. At that time, I could have
: chosen to average up to fight. But my initial position is already big, so I
: chose cut the loss.
: stop-loss is only a small part of the risk control strategies. Most of the
: risk control work is actually done even before I start the position. The
: time-frame of a trade is very important to me. I have a clear time-frame for
: every trade. I usually do a lot of work to study what could happen to my
: stock between the time I start the position and the time I close the
: position. The things I'll consider include external factors such as
: macroeconomic numbers, fed meetings, Greek elections, and internal factors
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E******w
发帖数: 2616 | 38 大牛，能不能再问一下，你最大的loss是3K，指得只是退出时的损失，还是包括账面
unrealized loss？作为青蛙，有时候账面损失达到一定规模的时候，总是纠结要不要
继续坚持自己的判断fight下去。所以我想了解一下你是以3K损失为上限，还是对
unrealized loss有更大一点的容忍度。
have
I
for
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: the biggest loss was coming from a short squeeze. At that time, I could have
: chosen to average up to fight. But my initial position is already big, so I
: chose cut the loss.
: stop-loss is only a small part of the risk control strategies. Most of the
: risk control work is actually done even before I start the position. The
: time-frame of a trade is very important to me. I have a clear time-frame for
: every trade. I usually do a lot of work to study what could happen to my
: stock between the time I start the position and the time I close the
: position. The things I'll consider include external factors such as
: macroeconomic numbers, fed meetings, Greek elections, and internal factors
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p***t
发帖数: 174 | 39 it's realized loss. I usually don't set "hard" stop, only use "mental" stop.
When to stop loss depends on
1)whether it's a short or long position
2) size of initial position
3) time-frame of the trade.
Short position has lower tolerance of loss, because the loss could be
unlimited.
If the initial position is just a starter, I'll average up or down and
continue to fight the trend, because this is planned before hand. But if the
price movement is unexpected and my initial position is already big, I'll
cut the loss.
If the time-frame is long, the loss tolerance is bigger.
So you know, I'm quite flexible on stop-loss.
【在 E******w 的大作中提到】
: 大牛，能不能再问一下，你最大的loss是3K，指得只是退出时的损失，还是包括账面
: unrealized loss？作为青蛙，有时候账面损失达到一定规模的时候，总是纠结要不要
: 继续坚持自己的判断fight下去。所以我想了解一下你是以3K损失为上限，还是对
: unrealized loss有更大一点的容忍度。
:
: have
: I
: for
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p***t
发帖数: 174 | 40 I'm 63 years old. And only started to make money since 3 years ago. So I
have a 40 years of capital loss carry-over, and will never worry about
paying tax in the rest of my life. LOL...
【在 J*K 的大作中提到】
: Co ask
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A****0
发帖数: 12393 | 41 虚报年龄一般会折寿的
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: I'm 63 years old. And only started to make money since 3 years ago. So I
: have a 40 years of capital loss carry-over, and will never worry about
: paying tax in the rest of my life. LOL...
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b******r
发帖数: 16603 | 42 admire 大器晚成。
我一直觉得自己天分有限，很难上路，现在看来坚持还是有戏。
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: I'm 63 years old. And only started to make money since 3 years ago. So I
: have a 40 years of capital loss carry-over, and will never worry about
: paying tax in the rest of my life. LOL...
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b*******e
发帖数: 24532 | 43 赞坚持 哈哈
【在 b******r 的大作中提到】
: admire 大器晚成。
: 我一直觉得自己天分有限，很难上路，现在看来坚持还是有戏。
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E******w
发帖数: 2616 | 44 谢谢，也就是说如果情况只是有变化，并没有超出事先预计的范围，你还是有可能坚持
fight的。哪怕unrealized loss并不很小。
我之前出现过类似的情况。出手着急了一点，而市场的表现又是相对极端的情况。虽然
维持原来的判断有很大可能挽回损失，但是当前的unrealized loss已经小幅超出我预
设的边界。这种情况总是很纠结。一边后悔当初计算应该精确一点，不该出手太重。一
边又觉得当前的情况仍然在预计之中，只是stop loss原先的计算过于乐观而以，因此
希望坚持fight。
不知道大牛有没有经历过类似的过程。我虽然是个青蛙，但是逐渐觉得对市场判断的可
靠性在提高。只是操作手法仍然很粗糙。一出现意外总是会手忙脚乱。
stop.
the
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: it's realized loss. I usually don't set "hard" stop, only use "mental" stop.
: When to stop loss depends on
: 1)whether it's a short or long position
: 2) size of initial position
: 3) time-frame of the trade.
: Short position has lower tolerance of loss, because the loss could be
: unlimited.
: If the initial position is just a starter, I'll average up or down and
: continue to fight the trend, because this is planned before hand. But if the
: price movement is unexpected and my initial position is already big, I'll
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G****a
发帖数: 280 | |
c****2
发帖数: 1711 | 46 大牛，请多指教！
【在 p***t 的大作中提到】
: Total profit: roughly 200k.
: # of different stocks traded: around 50
: Max gain from a single stock: 60k,
: # of stocks whose profit>10k: 5
: max loss from a single stock: 3k.
: # of stocks whose loss>1k: 2
: max holding time for a single stock: 2 months
: # of down month: 0
: Current cash position: around 90%.
: Overall, risk is well controlled, cumulative profit line is highly linear.
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r***l
发帖数: 9084 | 47 probt，好像还有个id叫cbot吧，我觉的都是在股市可以利于不败的大牛，像我这样的
，还是靠市场吃饭，最多熊市来了，我少输些。 |
