y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 1 再吃了一个包子饱了。
你就开始宣扬，包子比大饼管饱？
which period has more socialism? which period has more capitalism?
what is your point even asking? |
c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 2 my point is simple
you use "socialism" very often
obviously, your definition cannot fall into any common sense
or textbooks. since you claim United States has it.
we have to know a terminology before repetitively use it, right?
your choice, Kayens or Hayek, which one is more "socialism"
in your definition?
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 再吃了一个包子饱了。
: 你就开始宣扬，包子比大饼管饱？
: which period has more socialism? which period has more capitalism?
: what is your point even asking?
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 3 wealth distribution is socialism.
social justice is socialism.
what text book of socialism do you read?
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: my point is simple
: you use "socialism" very often
: obviously, your definition cannot fall into any common sense
: or textbooks. since you claim United States has it.
: we have to know a terminology before repetitively use it, right?
: your choice, Kayens or Hayek, which one is more "socialism"
: in your definition?
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 4 it is already year two of obama socialism and i am still argueing with
somebody who denies there is socialism in america.
heck!
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: wealth distribution is socialism.
: social justice is socialism.
: what text book of socialism do you read?
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c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 5 no, neither wealth distribution nor social justice is
a characteristic of socialism by ANY economics textbook.
capitalistic systems has the demand for controlling
the distribution of wealth as well as socialistic systems.
social justice, if taking it literally, has nothing to do
with socialism or capitalism. but both capitalism and
socialism would care the economic effects of lacking
social justice.
so you see? back to several months ago, i told you that
you are not talking about economic defini
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: wealth distribution is socialism.
: social justice is socialism.
: what text book of socialism do you read?
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c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 6 one more thing to emphasize
a society which implements neoliberal capitalism also can
have social security, wealth distribution control,
and many "socialistic" items in your definition.
if you don't understand, ask yourself one question,
suppose you are the only working guy in a country,
other people do not work, if you can choose, would
you pay tax to keep them alive or not?
nothing about moral, just say the practical answer.
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: no, neither wealth distribution nor social justice is
: a characteristic of socialism by ANY economics textbook.
: capitalistic systems has the demand for controlling
: the distribution of wealth as well as socialistic systems.
: social justice, if taking it literally, has nothing to do
: with socialism or capitalism. but both capitalism and
: socialism would care the economic effects of lacking
: social justice.
: so you see? back to several months ago, i told you that
: you are not talking about economic defini
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Z*****l
发帖数: 14069 | 7 人说socialism就是指这些因素，你非要强调宏观还是资本主义也自由得你。
话说你这昵称也是同样古怪，吃米属于吃素还单独列出来。
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: one more thing to emphasize
: a society which implements neoliberal capitalism also can
: have social security, wealth distribution control,
: and many "socialistic" items in your definition.
: if you don't understand, ask yourself one question,
: suppose you are the only working guy in a country,
: other people do not work, if you can choose, would
: you pay tax to keep them alive or not?
: nothing about moral, just say the practical answer.
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O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 8 It all sounds greek to me. hehe
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: one more thing to emphasize
: a society which implements neoliberal capitalism also can
: have social security, wealth distribution control,
: and many "socialistic" items in your definition.
: if you don't understand, ask yourself one question,
: suppose you are the only working guy in a country,
: other people do not work, if you can choose, would
: you pay tax to keep them alive or not?
: nothing about moral, just say the practical answer.
|
T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 9 Some people read books but don't understand books.
"Taking from one person to give to another person without consent" is a form
of Socilaism/Communism/Fascism, no matter how one labels it.
These evil Lefties uses mumbo-jumbo cockmania words trying to confuses
others to advances their own dark agenda. It will not succeed.
Communism is dead. Fascism is dead. Socilaism is dying. No more free
lunchs for lazy parasites.
【在 O*****g 的大作中提到】
: It all sounds greek to me. hehe
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 10 You assume that the wealth distribution in the beginning with is fair. If
this were true, what you said were absolutely correct. We should not rob
Paul to aid Peter. But many believe that the current system is unfairly
favorable to the rich class. They do a little and get a lot.
form
【在 T**********1 的大作中提到】
: Some people read books but don't understand books.
: "Taking from one person to give to another person without consent" is a form
: of Socilaism/Communism/Fascism, no matter how one labels it.
: These evil Lefties uses mumbo-jumbo cockmania words trying to confuses
: others to advances their own dark agenda. It will not succeed.
:
: Communism is dead. Fascism is dead. Socilaism is dying. No more free
: lunchs for lazy parasites.
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 11 who is to judge fair or no fair?
your communist slumlord?
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: You assume that the wealth distribution in the beginning with is fair. If
: this were true, what you said were absolutely correct. We should not rob
: Paul to aid Peter. But many believe that the current system is unfairly
: favorable to the rich class. They do a little and get a lot.
:
: form
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 12 majority voters in a democracy.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: who is to judge fair or no fair?
: your communist slumlord?
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 13 majority voters against socialism obamacare, what do you get?
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: majority voters in a democracy.
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 14 I do not see it yet in a vote. If it were truly what majority wanted, it
would be so in the future. So be a little bit patient.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: majority voters against socialism obamacare, what do you get?
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 15 because you are one heck of blind.
everybody else with a clear eye sees what happenned in MA.
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: I do not see it yet in a vote. If it were truly what majority wanted, it
: would be so in the future. So be a little bit patient.
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 16 Wealth in the Western world is being quickly depleted. Very soon we will
find out who are useless/parasitic. People who are useless will find
themselves starved to death.
During the communist rules in China, it was the least skilled people that
were starved to death when the famine hits. it will be the same anywhere in
the world. the lazy will die of their habit when free lunch ends. you can
also call it Evolution/natural selection. The best hedge against that is to
make yourself useful to o
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: You assume that the wealth distribution in the beginning with is fair. If
: this were true, what you said were absolutely correct. We should not rob
: Paul to aid Peter. But many believe that the current system is unfairly
: favorable to the rich class. They do a little and get a lot.
:
: form
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 17 I believe it when the health care law is abolished. otherwise, it is just
talk. MA is only a state. US has 50 states
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: because you are one heck of blind.
: everybody else with a clear eye sees what happenned in MA.
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T**********1
发帖数: 2406 | 18 Everyone with at least some human decency knows your beloved Obacare stole
the MA's vote. Shameless!
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: I believe it when the health care law is abolished. otherwise, it is just
: talk. MA is only a state. US has 50 states
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 19 why we have to do this again?
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 再吃了一个包子饱了。
: 你就开始宣扬，包子比大饼管饱？
: which period has more socialism? which period has more capitalism?
: what is your point even asking?
|
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 20 obviously, some definitions are too hard to swallow by somebody.
发信人: yourtt (rainmaker), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: 一个人吃了十个大饼不饱
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 11 03:11:11 2010, 美东)
wealth distribution is socialism.
social justice is socialism.
what text book of socialism do you read?
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: my point is simple
: you use "socialism" very often
: obviously, your definition cannot fall into any common sense
: or textbooks. since you claim United States has it.
: we have to know a terminology before repetitively use it, right?
: your choice, Kayens or Hayek, which one is more "socialism"
: in your definition?
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