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USANews版 - 奥巴马没能在OBAMACARE上整翻螺母泥
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话题: government话题: money话题: obamacare话题: 螺母话题: your
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P*********0
发帖数: 4321
1
我要是在台上,螺母泥早就四脚朝天了。
OBAMACARE是ROMNEYCARE的翻版。螺母泥说ROMNEYCARE是成功的典范,他就没有理由要
REPEAL OBAMACARE然后螺母泥又说,HEALTHCARE应该交给PRIVATE BUSINESS,但是他自
己要在麻州实施GOVERNMENT MANDATE HEALTHCARE。这个FLIP FLOP奥巴马没能穷追猛打
d******3
发帖数: 532
2
points well taken...
P*********0
发帖数: 4321
3
螺母泥吹牛逼说麻州的教育是全国一流。这个一流和他有屌的关系?
麻州是民主党州。麻州的教育在螺母泥上台之前就是领先水平。
P*********0
发帖数: 4321
4
至于绿色能源的900亿投资,奥巴马没能直接回答。美国政府直接投资产业不是一天两
天了。最著名的是美国的航天工业。多少投资,多少失败,甚至生命。
美国政府在互联网技术的投资,带动一代新生产业。
克林顿在任时,直接投资美国汽车工业搞电气汽车。因为克林顿看到了绿色产业的未来
,并希望美国汽车企业能拔头筹。但是三大巨头没能接住这个机会,最后被日本企业超
越。
有投资就有失败,包括政府。
B******e
发帖数: 16928
5
But government sucks at such investment.You ever believe that government can
build a great company? Private capital are more smart in identifying
profitable opportunities than government.

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: 至于绿色能源的900亿投资,奥巴马没能直接回答。美国政府直接投资产业不是一天两
: 天了。最著名的是美国的航天工业。多少投资,多少失败,甚至生命。
: 美国政府在互联网技术的投资,带动一代新生产业。
: 克林顿在任时,直接投资美国汽车工业搞电气汽车。因为克林顿看到了绿色产业的未来
: ,并希望美国汽车企业能拔头筹。但是三大巨头没能接住这个机会,最后被日本企业超
: 越。
: 有投资就有失败,包括政府。

P*********0
发帖数: 4321
6
奥巴马失去了攻击精神。捍卫OBAMACARE, 掀起47%的讨论,和转移工作到海外并外还开
户。
P*********0
发帖数: 4321
7
who told u? any investment has its own risks. it succeeded in some and
failed in some.

can

【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: But government sucks at such investment.You ever believe that government can
: build a great company? Private capital are more smart in identifying
: profitable opportunities than government.

B******e
发帖数: 16928
8
But there is a difference between good investors and suck-ass investors.
Government belongs to the latter, because private investors have more
aligned incentives (they are investing their own money so they will be extra
vigilant).

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: who told u? any investment has its own risks. it succeeded in some and
: failed in some.
:
: can

P*********0
发帖数: 4321
9
profitability has little to do with economical growth and job growth.
Like Apple, the world most valued company hires only 900 people US soil.

can

【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: But government sucks at such investment.You ever believe that government can
: build a great company? Private capital are more smart in identifying
: profitable opportunities than government.

F****n
发帖数: 3271
10
根本就不该提RomneyCare,
那是在GOP Primary的时候红脖子的武器
到了大选的时候 Romney根本用不着讨好红脖子,
他甚至可以说那就是我的Idea, 怎么了

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: 我要是在台上,螺母泥早就四脚朝天了。
: OBAMACARE是ROMNEYCARE的翻版。螺母泥说ROMNEYCARE是成功的典范,他就没有理由要
: REPEAL OBAMACARE然后螺母泥又说,HEALTHCARE应该交给PRIVATE BUSINESS,但是他自
: 己要在麻州实施GOVERNMENT MANDATE HEALTHCARE。这个FLIP FLOP奥巴马没能穷追猛打
: 。

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B******e
发帖数: 16928
11
So you want government to hire people in those money-losing companies and
use taxpayers' money to compensate them, then claim I create U.S. jobs? Do
not simply look at how many Apple hired. Look at how many industries Apple
help support and how many jobs are created by those relevant industries. And
think about how much taxes apple paid each year because of the money they
made.

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: profitability has little to do with economical growth and job growth.
: Like Apple, the world most valued company hires only 900 people US soil.
:
: can

P*********0
发帖数: 4321
12
again according to whom? I already told you the success story. Most of the
times, government should stay off direct investment. But for next geberation
of techologies which can potentially launch and lead a brand new industry
with technocal innovations, government has a role to play.

extra

【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: But there is a difference between good investors and suck-ass investors.
: Government belongs to the latter, because private investors have more
: aligned incentives (they are investing their own money so they will be extra
: vigilant).

P*********0
发帖数: 4321
13
当然要提啊。就是要找他自己打脸的镜头。
哈哈。还有螺母泥最近露丑说美国穷人目前已经享受免费医疗,因为有并他们可以随时
去ER; 而在他推行ROMNEYCARE的时候,整治穷人天文数字的ER费用恰恰是他要搞医改的
原因。
这些都暴出来,几下螺母泥脸就肿了。

【在 F****n 的大作中提到】
: 根本就不该提RomneyCare,
: 那是在GOP Primary的时候红脖子的武器
: 到了大选的时候 Romney根本用不着讨好红脖子,
: 他甚至可以说那就是我的Idea, 怎么了

B******e
发帖数: 16928
14
According to basic economics sense. If you are investing your own money, you
need to be smart to survive. But if you are investing taxpayer's money, why
would you care about survival if your bill will always be paid? Government
invest in military technology because of defense need and that is one of the
few functions that government should have. Your examples are those that are
related to military, which of course is warranted.

geberation

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: again according to whom? I already told you the success story. Most of the
: times, government should stay off direct investment. But for next geberation
: of techologies which can potentially launch and lead a brand new industry
: with technocal innovations, government has a role to play.
:
: extra

m********7
发帖数: 161
15
O8确实有时是看得太远了,以致缺少解决自己任上的东西,是不是他以前上学的时候也
是个上甲课做乙事的伙计啊?

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: 至于绿色能源的900亿投资,奥巴马没能直接回答。美国政府直接投资产业不是一天两
: 天了。最著名的是美国的航天工业。多少投资,多少失败,甚至生命。
: 美国政府在互联网技术的投资,带动一代新生产业。
: 克林顿在任时,直接投资美国汽车工业搞电气汽车。因为克林顿看到了绿色产业的未来
: ,并希望美国汽车企业能拔头筹。但是三大巨头没能接住这个机会,最后被日本企业超
: 越。
: 有投资就有失败,包括政府。

c***z
发帖数: 887
16
对呀,你看那个是GOVERNMENT 的功劳? 最好的不都是PRIVATE SCHOOL吗? 这不正支持了
ROMNEY的观点了吗?

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: 螺母泥吹牛逼说麻州的教育是全国一流。这个一流和他有屌的关系?
: 麻州是民主党州。麻州的教育在螺母泥上台之前就是领先水平。

e*i
发帖数: 10288
17
that's why he didn't publish his transcript?

【在 m********7 的大作中提到】
: O8确实有时是看得太远了,以致缺少解决自己任上的东西,是不是他以前上学的时候也
: 是个上甲课做乙事的伙计啊?

P*********0
发帖数: 4321
18
Money losing by chance. They went bankrupt because of cheap Chinese solar
panel import. In this case, US company technological advantage didn't turned
into market value.

And
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: So you want government to hire people in those money-losing companies and
: use taxpayers' money to compensate them, then claim I create U.S. jobs? Do
: not simply look at how many Apple hired. Look at how many industries Apple
: help support and how many jobs are created by those relevant industries. And
: think about how much taxes apple paid each year because of the money they
: made.

P*********0
发帖数: 4321
19
That sense doesn't make sense. These days, even startup doesn't spend its
own pocket money, they get money from venture capitalists.
Public companies? They spend shareholder's money.

you
why
Government
the
are
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: According to basic economics sense. If you are investing your own money, you
: need to be smart to survive. But if you are investing taxpayer's money, why
: would you care about survival if your bill will always be paid? Government
: invest in military technology because of defense need and that is one of the
: few functions that government should have. Your examples are those that are
: related to military, which of course is warranted.
:
: geberation

P*********0
发帖数: 4321
20
首先和罗姆尼当州长没关系。他不能take credit, like he did. 奥巴马说的教育投资
是两个方面:公共基础教育投入和学生贷款。激励创新和鼓励突出的业绩,保持学生贷
款低息。这和私营教育不冲突。

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

【在 c***z 的大作中提到】
: 对呀,你看那个是GOVERNMENT 的功劳? 最好的不都是PRIVATE SCHOOL吗? 这不正支持了
: ROMNEY的观点了吗?

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B******e
发帖数: 16928
21
Shareholder's money is private money. These shareholders are willing to put
their money to the company so they are willing to bear risk, not forced to
pay taxes. Venture capitalists of course they would care about their own
money, that is why they have very stringent criteria when selecting start-
ups and they understand the underlying risk, not like government, they do
not have people who pay for them.

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: That sense doesn't make sense. These days, even startup doesn't spend its
: own pocket money, they get money from venture capitalists.
: Public companies? They spend shareholder's money.
:
: you
: why
: Government
: the
: are
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

y****t
发帖数: 10233
22
投入要投给学生啊,也不是投给你pooper涨养老金

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: 首先和罗姆尼当州长没关系。他不能take credit, like he did. 奥巴马说的教育投资
: 是两个方面:公共基础教育投入和学生贷款。激励创新和鼓励突出的业绩,保持学生贷
: 款低息。这和私营教育不冲突。
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

B******e
发帖数: 16928
23
Not by chance. If the government thinks they can go beyond market principles
, they will get punished. Housing market is another example.

turned

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: Money losing by chance. They went bankrupt because of cheap Chinese solar
: panel import. In this case, US company technological advantage didn't turned
: into market value.
:
: And
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

P*********0
发帖数: 4321
24
Public money. As long as you have retirement account, your money is in it.
That's how fat cat got away with it.

put
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: Shareholder's money is private money. These shareholders are willing to put
: their money to the company so they are willing to bear risk, not forced to
: pay taxes. Venture capitalists of course they would care about their own
: money, that is why they have very stringent criteria when selecting start-
: ups and they understand the underlying risk, not like government, they do
: not have people who pay for them.

P*********0
发帖数: 4321
25
罗姆尼上台,会直接把美金卷个卷,插你屁眼里。了却你慕菊心愿。

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 投入要投给学生啊,也不是投给你pooper涨养老金
B******e
发帖数: 16928
26
That is your 401(k) manager's choice and you have the right to tell them not
to.

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: Public money. As long as you have retirement account, your money is in it.
: That's how fat cat got away with it.
:
: put
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

P*********0
发帖数: 4321
27
Do I have a choice to put 401k in my own bank account?

not
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: That is your 401(k) manager's choice and you have the right to tell them not
: to.

y****t
发帖数: 10233
28
there is something called money market you pure idiot

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: Do I have a choice to put 401k in my own bank account?
:
: not
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

B******e
发帖数: 16928
29
You can choose not to make contributions.

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: Do I have a choice to put 401k in my own bank account?
:
: not
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

r***x
发帖数: 155
30
yes, you can withdraw your money. but with penalty.
or quit your job, roll over your 401k to your bank IRA account

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: Do I have a choice to put 401k in my own bank account?
:
: not
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

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I*1
发帖数: 5635
31
看你平时发言,就知道你啥水平了。

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: 我要是在台上,螺母泥早就四脚朝天了。
: OBAMACARE是ROMNEYCARE的翻版。螺母泥说ROMNEYCARE是成功的典范,他就没有理由要
: REPEAL OBAMACARE然后螺母泥又说,HEALTHCARE应该交给PRIVATE BUSINESS,但是他自
: 己要在麻州实施GOVERNMENT MANDATE HEALTHCARE。这个FLIP FLOP奥巴马没能穷追猛打
: 。

P*********0
发帖数: 4321
32
我水平不要高,能日茶袋就行。高了浪费。

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

【在 I*1 的大作中提到】
: 看你平时发言,就知道你啥水平了。
P*********0
发帖数: 4321
33
That's bull. Everyone has the right to save for the future

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: You can choose not to make contributions.
k****k
发帖数: 3322
34
楼主的心情可以理解。恨铁不成钢啊!洗洗早点睡吧,要保重身体,明天还可以继续帮
奥巴马摇旗呐喊。
B******e
发帖数: 16928
35
You save your contribution in your bank account. Good enough?

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: That's bull. Everyone has the right to save for the future
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

P*********0
发帖数: 4321
36
Nope. I want to get the matching fund from company that belongs to me.

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: You save your contribution in your bank account. Good enough?
k***n
发帖数: 3158
37
Romney was stupid that he did not emphasize enough that the key is
to allow each state to determine whether they want something similar
to romneycare. If onc state wants it, they can vote and approve it in
their state level. There is absolutely no need to generalize it in
the federal level, especially through a format like Obamacare
Romney pointed it somewhat but not clearly enough. He needs to nail
this next time.

【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】
: 我要是在台上,螺母泥早就四脚朝天了。
: OBAMACARE是ROMNEYCARE的翻版。螺母泥说ROMNEYCARE是成功的典范,他就没有理由要
: REPEAL OBAMACARE然后螺母泥又说,HEALTHCARE应该交给PRIVATE BUSINESS,但是他自
: 己要在麻州实施GOVERNMENT MANDATE HEALTHCARE。这个FLIP FLOP奥巴马没能穷追猛打
: 。

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