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g********2
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Pollsters Claim Black Voters More Excited About Hillary Than They Ever Were
For Obama
Luke Rosiak
Investigative Reporter
7:25 PM 11/01/2016
Black Lives Matter Sign Joseph Sohm / Shutterstock.com, Hillary Clinton:
Evan El-Amin / Shutterstock.com Black Lives Matter Sign Joseph Sohm /
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Polls showing Hillary Clinton with a massive lead over Donald Trump are
based on the dubious assumption that black voters will turn out for a white
woman in 2016 as enthusiastically as they cast historic votes for the first
black president in 2008.
Black turnout set record highs eight years ago and then again in 2012 when
their turnout was higher than whites for the first time ever. But pollsters
in 2016 may be discounting the extent to which blacks were motivated by the
opportunity to voting for Barack Obama, a review from The Daily Caller News
Foundation’s Investigative Group suggests.
Polls can be influenced as much by the assumptions pollsters make about the
demographic makeup of turnout as they are by the actual answers people give
when asked about their voting preferences. In the swing state of Virginia,
there is evidence that polls favoring Clinton could go the other way if more
realistic assumptions about black turnout are used.
Blacks make up 19 percent of Virginia’s population and they cast 20 percent
of the votes in that state in 2012, voting overwhelmingly for Obama’s
second term. Most pollsters of the state think that blacks will vote at the
same rate in 2016. The number is especially high since one in four black men
in Virginia is a felon and can’t vote.
Roanoke, Christopher Newport, and the Times Picayune polls all assume black
turnout of 20 percent in Virginia for 2016. The PPP and CBS/YouGov surveys
have it at 19 percent. A September Quinnipiac University poll had it at 20
percent.
An October poll by Emerson College was used to push the narrative that
Republican nominee Donald Trump was falling far behind Democrat Hillary
Clinton. But the turnout model used by Emerson pollsters assumed blacks
would make up even more than 20 percent of votes in Virginia.
The poll found that Clinton was leading Trump in the state by three
percentage points. L2political.com, which sells voter data, puts the number
of active registered black voters at 14.7 percent. The disparity is enough
to flip the results of the poll from Clinton to Trump.
The day the Emerson results were published, the Trump campaign reportedly
pulled many resources out of Virginia, where Republicans have traditionally
been competitive, because the polls made it seem like a losing battle.
The current situation in Virginia recalls the state’s notorious 2014 Senate
race in which bad polling turned into a self-fulfilling prophesy as
Democrat Sen. Mark Warner sought re-election against Republican Ed Gillespie
. The RealClearPolitics average of polls just before election day had Warner
up by 9.7 percent.
Roanoke College had Warner up by 12 points, and CBS News/New York Times and
the University of Mary Washington had him up 10 points. A September 2014
poll from Christopher Newport University, a taxpayer-funded college, had
Warner up by 22 points. Hampton University, a historically black college,
announced that it had conducted a poll in the race, then mysteriously never
released it.
State Republican officials had stopped running ads for Gillespie and many
GOP voters stayed home, thinking the race was a foregone conclusion. Warner
won, but by less than 1 percent. A shift of only a few thousand votes would
have tipped the scales in Gillespie’s favor.
“I want an investigation of the polls in Virginia,” University of Virginia
political science professor Larry Sabato said after the election.
The New York Times ascribed the huge polling miss to turnout in Democratic
areas being lower than the pollsters anticipated.
The narrative of Clinton leading Trump by margins slightly larger than the
three-point margin of error has been dominant since last summer’s
nomination conventions, but some pollsters and politicos are beginning to
acknowledge that their assumptions about black turnout were incorrect.
Early voting indicates that black voters are voting less. It also shows that
whites are casting more early votes than in 2012 in critical states like
North Carolina and Ohio. In Virginia, majority-black areas like Portsmouth
and Hampton Roads have the lowest early voting numbers.
Quinnipiac lowered its black turnout estimate from 20 percent in its
September poll to 16 percent in its most recent one. Quinnipiac did not
respond to TheDCNF’s request for comment on its rationale. (In a press
release, Quinnipiac noted that regardless of how high or low Democratic
turnout is, poll results are also influenced by the fact that many
Republicans don’t support Trump.)
RMG’s Oct. 30 poll put black turnout at a more conservative 15 percent and
found the race to be far closer than the others, with Clinton up by only
four points.
It would be possible for blacks to vote in fewer numbers than 2012 but still
vote at higher rates than their portion of the population if huge numbers
of whites stay home because they are disgusted by both candidates. Still,
even if registering in 2008 or 2012 lowered the barrier to participation in
2016, the dramatic, sustained increase predicted by some pollsters seems to
risk misinterpreting the cause of blacks’ enthusiasm in the Obama elections.
In Virginia in 2016, urban and majority-black areas like Portsmouth and
Richmond have the lowest early voting numbers, decreasing by as much as 30
percent compared to this point in 2012. Meanwhile, in non-black areas, early
voting is up, including by 50 percent in heavily-populated Northern
Virginia, and 21 percent in the coal country of Southwest Virginia.
Gov. Terry McAuliffe has battled to increase black turnout by restoring the
voting rights of felons, a move that was partially blocked and partially
successful. Felons’ numbers could easily tip a race like the 2014 Senate
contest.
The Washington Post reported that when asked what the effect would be for
his longtime close friend Hillary Clinton, he said “honestly, I haven’t
thought about it” and that he had “literally no idea” how they would vote.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/01/pollsters-claim-blacks-more-excited-about-hillary-than-obama/#ixzz4OrTgV19I
T**********e
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VA别想了, NC有点戏
g********2
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In Virginia in 2016, urban and majority-black areas like Portsmouth and
Richmond have the lowest early voting numbers, decreasing by as much as 30
percent compared to this point in 2012. Meanwhile, in non-black areas, early
voting is up, including by 50 percent in heavily-populated Northern
Virginia, and 21 percent in the coal country of Southwest Virginia.
——有希望!
j******d
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理智点,别想VA PA MI这几个州了,如果运气好,NH CO也许有点希望,不过也非常难
w***g
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MI很有希望. 大家拭目以待.

【在 j******d 的大作中提到】
: 理智点,别想VA PA MI这几个州了,如果运气好,NH CO也许有点希望,不过也非常难
g********2
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眼睛睁大点吧。

【在 j******d 的大作中提到】
: 理智点,别想VA PA MI这几个州了,如果运气好,NH CO也许有点希望,不过也非常难
g********2
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VA 最新poll:
川普44%
希拉里41%
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/USANews/32456287.html
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