T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 1 老头团队要打台湾牌了，其实巴马之前每届总统开始都想打台湾牌，但都很快发现不是
那么好玩的，面临战争威胁迅速升级，没做好全面对抗的准备都退缩回原地。
Trump’s Taiwan phone call was long planned, say people who were involved
Donald Trump’s protocol-breaking telephone call with Taiwan’s leader was
an intentionally provocative move that establishes the incoming president as
a break with the past, according to interviews with people involved in the
planning.
The historic communication — the first between leaders of the United States
and Taiwan since 1979 — was the product of months of quiet preparations
and deliberations among Trump’s advisers about a new strategy for
engagement with Taiwan that began even before he became the Republican
presidential nominee, according to people involved in or briefed on the
talks.
The call also reflects the views of hard-line advisers urging Trump to take
a tough opening line with China, said others familiar with the months of
discussion about Taiwan and China.
That glosses over the extensive and turbulent history of U.S. relations with
Taiwan and the political importance the island and its democracy hold for
many Republican foreign policy specialists.
Some critics portrayed the move as the thoughtless blundering of a foreign
policy novice, but other experts said it appeared calculated to signal a new
, robust approach to relations with China.
China reacted sternly to the Taiwan call, suggesting that it shows Trump’s
inexperience.
Trump sent two Twitter messages Sunday that echoed his campaign-stump blasts
against China.
“Did China ask us if it was OK to devalue their currency (making it hard
for our companies to compete), heavily tax our products going into their
country (the U.S. doesn’t tax them) or to build a massive military complex
in the middle of the South China Sea?” he asked. “I don’t think so!”
The United States does impose a tax on Chinese goods — 2.9 percent for non-
farm goods and 2.5 percent for agricultural products.
Some of the GOP’s most ardent Taiwan proponents are playing active roles in
Trump’s transition team, and others in the conservative foreign policy
community see a historic opportunity to reset relations with Taiwan and
reposition it as a more strategic ally in East Asia.
Several leading members of Trump’s transition team are considered hawkish
on China and friendly toward Taiwan, including incoming chief of staff
Reince Priebus.
Indeed, advisers explicitly warned last month that relations with China were
in for a shake-up.
In an article for Foreign Policy magazine titled “Donald Trump’s Peace
Through Strength Vision for the Asia-Pacific,” Peter Navarro and Alexander
Gray described Taiwan as a “beacon of democracy in Asia” and complained
that its treatment by the Obama administration was “egregious.”
The article, flagged to China experts as a significant policy blueprint,
described Taiwan as “the most militarily vulnerable U.S. partner anywhere
in the world” and called for a comprehensive arms deal to help it defend
itself against China.
Friday’s phone call does not necessarily mean that will happen, but it does
look like the first sign of a recalibration by a future Trump
administration, experts say.
It was planned weeks ahead by staffers and Taiwan specialists on both sides,
according to people familiar with the plans.
Immediately after Trump won the Nov. 8 election, his staffers compiled a
list of foreign leaders with whom to arrange calls. “Very early on, Taiwan
was on that list,” said Stephen Yates, a national security official during
the presidency of George W. Bush and an expert on China and Taiwan. “Once
the call was scheduled, I was told that there was a briefing for President-
elect Trump. They knew that there would be reaction and potential blowback.”
Alex Huang, a spokesman for Tsai, told the Reuters news agency, “Of course
both sides agreed ahead of time before making contact.”
Tsai’s office said she had told Trump during the phone call that she hoped
the United States “would continue to support more opportunities for Taiwan
to participate in international issues.”
Tsai will have sympathetic ears in the White House. Priebus is reported to
have visited Taiwan with a Republican delegation in 2011 and in October 2015
, meeting Tsai before she was elected president. Taiwan Foreign Minister
David Lee called him a friend of Taiwan and said his appointment as Trump’s
chief of staff was “good news” for the island, according to local news
media.
Edward J. Feulner, a longtime former president of the Heritage Foundation,
has for decades cultivated extensive ties with Taiwan and is serving as an
adviser to Trump’s transition team.
At the Republican National Convention in July, Trump’s allies inserted a
little-noticed phrase into the party’s platform reaffirming support for six
key assurances to Taiwan made by President Ronald Reagan in 1982 — a
priority for the Taiwan government. Also written into the 2016 platform was
tougher language about China than had been in the party’s platform in its
previous iteration four years ago.
“We salute the people of Taiwan, with whom we share the values of democracy
, human rights, a free market economy, and the rule of law,” the platform
said, adding that the current documents governing U.S.-Taiwan relations
should stand but adding, “China’s behavior has negated the optimistic
language of our last platform concerning our future relations with China.”
Yates, who helped write that portion of the platform, said Trump made clear
at the time that he wanted to recalibrate relationships around the world and
that the U.S. posture toward China was “a personal priority.”
About the same time, Navarro, one of Trump’s top economic and Asia advisers
, penned an op-ed saying that the United States must not “dump Taiwan” and
needs a comprehensive strategy to bolster what he termed “a beacon of
democracy.”
The president-elect’s advisers have said the communication does not signify
any formal shift in long-standing U.S. relations with Taiwan or China, even
as they acknowledge that the decision to break with nearly 40 years of U.S.
diplomatic practice was a calculated choice.
“Of course all head-of-state calls are well planned,” said Richard Grenell
, a former State Department official who has advised the Trump transition
effort.
Grenell and others noted that the call came about two weeks after Trump had
spoken with Chinese President Xi Jinping and that it was not substantive.
“There was no policy discussion, and everyone involved is well aware of the
‘One China’ policy,” Grenell said, referring to the Nixon-era shift that
established formal direct ties between Washington and Beijing.
The United States maintains a military relationship with Taiwan, which
Beijing considers a province, but closed its embassy there in 1979.
Republican administrations since then have emphasized Taiwan’s democracy
and flirted with the idea of a shift in policy, but none have held public
discussions with a Taiwanese leader.
“There are a lot of things that previous Republican presidents, and
Democratic presidents, would do that Donald Trump won’t do,” Grenell said.
“He’s a man that understands that typical Washington rules are not always
best for our foreign policy.”
During the campaign, Trump’s fiery rhetoric against China resonated with
his supporters, especially those in the economically beleaguered Rust Belt
states where he registered unexpected wins. Trump accused China of “raping
” the United States by stealing trade secrets, manipulating its currency
and subsidizing its industries. He vowed to institute tough new policies
designed to crack down on the Chinese and extract concessions, such as by
imposing higher tariffs on goods manufactured there.
By irritating if not angering the Chinese government with his talk with Tsai
, Trump showed his core supporters in the United States that he would follow
through with his promise to get tough on China, some observers said.
“He campaigned on an ‘America first’ platform,” GOP pollster Frank Luntz
said. “Calls like this may upset the diplomats, but they communicate to
Americans that he’s not going to play by the same rules and isn’t just
talking differently but will act differently.”
Walter Lohman, director of the Heritage Foundation’s Asian Studies Center,
said the call with Tsai “was deliberate. It was not an accident. Obviously
he made a conscious decision to have the call arranged. She called him, but
there was an agreement for it.”
Gordon Chang, an Asia expert and author of “ The Coming Collapse of China ,
” said Trump’s tweet Friday night that he had just accepted a call from
Tsai was “not credible.”
“This has all the hallmarks of a prearranged phone call,” Chang said. “It
doesn’t make sense that Tsai out of the blue would call Donald Trump. She
is not known for taking big leaps into the unknown, and it would be
politically embarrassing when it was learned that she called Trump and he
would not take her call.”
Kellyanne Conway, a senior adviser to Trump’s transition team, brushed
aside questions about what the call signals about the incoming
administration’s priorities and policy on China.
“All he did was receive a phone call,” Conway told reporters Sunday at
Trump Tower in New York. “Everybody should just calm down. He’s aware of
what our nation’s policy is.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-taiwan-phone-call-was-weeks-in-the-planning-say-people-who-were-involved/2016/12/04/f8be4b0c-ba4e-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.b540782450f0 |
e**r
发帖数: 1144 | 2 如果不是当年卡特傻逼，美国在台湾问题上完全占优。 |
S******8
发帖数: 24594 | |
T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 4
卡特像赫鲁晓夫，为拉拢中国冷战不遗余力，估计被阿富汗战争和伊朗人质搞疯了。
【在 e**r 的大作中提到】
: 如果不是当年卡特傻逼，美国在台湾问题上完全占优。
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 5
WP和NYT的文章很多立场有问题，但文字水平和采访来源丰富是刚刚的，右派WSJ可以媲
美，其他小报水平不行。
【在 S******8 的大作中提到】
: 那么乐于做主流媒体的传声筒，很没意思。
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j****3
发帖数: 2836 | 6 不错，但是如果美国当时不在台湾问题上让步，满足中国的基本要求，那就要继续被前
苏联压得喘不过气来。
【在 e**r 的大作中提到】
: 如果不是当年卡特傻逼，美国在台湾问题上完全占优。
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x*******1
发帖数: 28835 | 7 也是好事，打掉了土工上层的绥靖心里。 好好准备一下。 估计南海间岛又得加快。 |
D**s
发帖数: 6361 | 8 不让步，上个世纪解体的可能就不是苏联，而是美国了……
：如果不是当年卡特傻逼，美国在台湾问题上完全占优。 |
C*I
发帖数: 4736 | 9 醒醒吧，台湾牌是最灵的牌，每打都奏效，一出就赢。
要承认，马桶混了八年，心在黑人的保健和福利，对美国以外的事就是把美国与穆斯林
的战争给结束了，把叙利亚的穆斯林烂民给安顿好了。 其它的什么事，马桶顾不上。
台湾牌，没有功夫去打。
但在此之前的w bush就不一样了，拿着台湾牌使劲敲，三敲两部敲的，从中国搞了
12000亿美元的国债，把人民币汇率从8.4搞到了6.1! 差点没有搞到1：1. 这一搞，中
国半国企业就倒闭了，经济延续了此后8年以来的空前萧条与飞流直下。伴随着的是越
南的崛起，印度的起飞，和整个东南亚的经济复苏。那损失可是无法言语的！
所以，逮住台湾牌，猛敲中国，是百试不输的王牌，一出就灵，一打就赢！ 要不你看
，人还没有上台，人一个电话，王部长就已经尿了一裤子，说是just a small trick
by Taiwan. 一点都不生气，不敢生气，不能生气。 活脱脱的吓坏了，吓尿了！
as
the
States
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 老头团队要打台湾牌了，其实巴马之前每届总统开始都想打台湾牌，但都很快发现不是
: 那么好玩的，面临战争威胁迅速升级，没做好全面对抗的准备都退缩回原地。
: Trump’s Taiwan phone call was long planned, say people who were involved
: Donald Trump’s protocol-breaking telephone call with Taiwan’s leader was
: an intentionally provocative move that establishes the incoming president as
: a break with the past, according to interviews with people involved in the
: planning.
: The historic communication — the first between leaders of the United States
: and Taiwan since 1979 — was the product of months of quiet preparations
: and deliberations among Trump’s advisers about a new strategy for
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e*****e
发帖数: 2791 | 10 was the product of months of quiet preparations
瞎扯，川普当选才一个月，怎么就成了 “为时数个月的准备”？ |
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k*******r
发帖数: 16963 | 11 正好是华裔美国人报销祖国的好时候，板上华裔美国人快快报名参军，到南海台湾保卫
美国利益，特别是那个KarenKittyI，lol |
e*****e
发帖数: 2791 | 12 原文明明说好几个月，楼主的标题却偷偷改成几个星期。干嘛？ |
k*******r
发帖数: 16963 | 13 楼主垃圾呗，犯贱
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 原文明明说好几个月，楼主的标题却偷偷改成几个星期。干嘛？
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 14
It was planned weeks ahead by staffers and Taiwan specialists on both sides,
according to people familiar with the plans.
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 原文明明说好几个月，楼主的标题却偷偷改成几个星期。干嘛？
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 15
打台湾牌历来是适可而止，从tg那里拿点让步，升级就不好了，逼tg采取军事行动攻打
tw，有可能世界大战。
【在 C*I 的大作中提到】
: 醒醒吧，台湾牌是最灵的牌，每打都奏效，一出就赢。
: 要承认，马桶混了八年，心在黑人的保健和福利，对美国以外的事就是把美国与穆斯林
: 的战争给结束了，把叙利亚的穆斯林烂民给安顿好了。 其它的什么事，马桶顾不上。
: 台湾牌，没有功夫去打。
: 但在此之前的w bush就不一样了，拿着台湾牌使劲敲，三敲两部敲的，从中国搞了
: 12000亿美元的国债，把人民币汇率从8.4搞到了6.1! 差点没有搞到1：1. 这一搞，中
: 国半国企业就倒闭了，经济延续了此后8年以来的空前萧条与飞流直下。伴随着的是越
: 南的崛起，印度的起飞，和整个东南亚的经济复苏。那损失可是无法言语的！
: 所以，逮住台湾牌，猛敲中国，是百试不输的王牌，一出就灵，一打就赢！ 要不你看
: ，人还没有上台，人一个电话，王部长就已经尿了一裤子，说是just a small trick
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j**********r
发帖数: 3798 | 16 土工真打台湾，见克里米亚
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 打台湾牌历来是适可而止，从tg那里拿点让步，升级就不好了，逼tg采取军事行动攻打
: tw，有可能世界大战。
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m****o
发帖数: 4654 | 17 现在又贬到6.9了，为以后升值留点余量。
那些没竞争力的做些做袜子企业倒就倒了吧，能生存的才是强大的企业
【在 C*I 的大作中提到】
: 醒醒吧，台湾牌是最灵的牌，每打都奏效，一出就赢。
: 要承认，马桶混了八年，心在黑人的保健和福利，对美国以外的事就是把美国与穆斯林
: 的战争给结束了，把叙利亚的穆斯林烂民给安顿好了。 其它的什么事，马桶顾不上。
: 台湾牌，没有功夫去打。
: 但在此之前的w bush就不一样了，拿着台湾牌使劲敲，三敲两部敲的，从中国搞了
: 12000亿美元的国债，把人民币汇率从8.4搞到了6.1! 差点没有搞到1：1. 这一搞，中
: 国半国企业就倒闭了，经济延续了此后8年以来的空前萧条与飞流直下。伴随着的是越
: 南的崛起，印度的起飞，和整个东南亚的经济复苏。那损失可是无法言语的！
: 所以，逮住台湾牌，猛敲中国，是百试不输的王牌，一出就灵，一打就赢！ 要不你看
: ，人还没有上台，人一个电话，王部长就已经尿了一裤子，说是just a small trick
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D**s
发帖数: 6361 | 18 也不看看什么时候，一个军舰造得如下饺子的国家说小事一桩，想想都可怕…
说明人家一点都不在乎你说啥，想动手时候，随时动手……
：醒醒吧，台湾牌是最灵的牌，每打都奏效，一出就赢。
： |
s******3
发帖数: 7297 | 19 台湾是中国最大的痒痒肉，不挠才是傻逼呢！
as
the
States
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 老头团队要打台湾牌了，其实巴马之前每届总统开始都想打台湾牌，但都很快发现不是
: 那么好玩的，面临战争威胁迅速升级，没做好全面对抗的准备都退缩回原地。
: Trump’s Taiwan phone call was long planned, say people who were involved
: Donald Trump’s protocol-breaking telephone call with Taiwan’s leader was
: an intentionally provocative move that establishes the incoming president as
: a break with the past, according to interviews with people involved in the
: planning.
: The historic communication — the first between leaders of the United States
: and Taiwan since 1979 — was the product of months of quiet preparations
: and deliberations among Trump’s advisers about a new strategy for
|
T****n
发帖数: 6187 | 20 挠了人家只是笑笑就更傻逼了
【在 s******3 的大作中提到】
: 台湾是中国最大的痒痒肉，不挠才是傻逼呢！
:
: as
: the
: States
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S*******h
发帖数: 7021 | 21 这事我相信是是先计画好的. 华邮的报导跟台湾民主党官方的报导一致 |
T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 22 那是香港，台湾要登陆难度大点
: 土工真打台湾，见克里米亚
【在 j**********r 的大作中提到】
: 土工真打台湾，见克里米亚
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j**********r
发帖数: 3798 | 23 登陆干啥，端掉主要军事设施，封锁海路，台湾就主动投降了。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 那是香港，台湾要登陆难度大点
:
:
: 土工真打台湾，见克里米亚
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h*h
发帖数: 18873 | |
a****a
发帖数: 3905 | 25 这完全是事后扯淡的文章。
两个月前trump的精力全放在拉力上，才不会计划这种事情。
也就几个鹰派随口一提，现在洗地成高瞻远瞩了。
as
the
States
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 老头团队要打台湾牌了，其实巴马之前每届总统开始都想打台湾牌，但都很快发现不是
: 那么好玩的，面临战争威胁迅速升级，没做好全面对抗的准备都退缩回原地。
: Trump’s Taiwan phone call was long planned, say people who were involved
: Donald Trump’s protocol-breaking telephone call with Taiwan’s leader was
: an intentionally provocative move that establishes the incoming president as
: a break with the past, according to interviews with people involved in the
: planning.
: The historic communication — the first between leaders of the United States
: and Taiwan since 1979 — was the product of months of quiet preparations
: and deliberations among Trump’s advisers about a new strategy for
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 26
要不投降呢？台湾能自给自足一阵，美国在外面支持，要封锁多久。美国再把中国封锁。
【在 j**********r 的大作中提到】
: 登陆干啥，端掉主要军事设施，封锁海路，台湾就主动投降了。
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j**********r
发帖数: 3798 | 27 不投降个屁呀，台湾领导人那么面。
锁。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 要不投降呢？台湾能自给自足一阵，美国在外面支持，要封锁多久。美国再把中国封锁。
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 28
你怎么知道小菜不能硬气？
【在 j**********r 的大作中提到】
: 不投降个屁呀，台湾领导人那么面。
:
: 锁。
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