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c*****g
发帖数: 21627
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护士你又犯傻了,
obamacare带来加税,带来保费巨额上涨。
所以对于大多数人,尤其是更大多数华人,没有obamacare比有好obamacare
a***k
发帖数: 1038
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来自主题: Military版 - 身边朋友的经历看obamacare
obamacare对这种情况没有任何帮助,不信的话自己去kff.org算一下。
他家4口人用obamacare的silver plan的话,
一年的保费要1万左右,
只有70%的coverage,经常有巨高的deductible,恐怕要自己先出5000后保险才开始付70%。
他那个2300的保险恐怕非常好,应该是那种只有一点copay的东东,
obamacare里最好的铂金级也只有90%的coverage。
另外,他13年的收入恐怕远超过贫困线,政府不会有任何补贴。
T**********e
发帖数: 29576
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那个私人保险的market place就是个joke,价钱对年轻健康人太高,最后收集一大堆老
弱病残,无法持久。另一方面Obamacare让挣15000刀以下的穷人都能上medicaid,最后
从FICA税里出,全体纳税人掏钱,顺利实现财富redistribution,中产工作的p民又被
扒了一次皮。
Obamacare的加入人数。
In first month, the vast majority of Obamacare sign-ups are in Medicaid
The first month of the new health law’s rollout reveals an unexpected
pattern in several states: a crush of people applying for an expansion of
Medicaid and a trickle of sign-ups for private insurance.
This early imbalance — in some places, nine out of 10 enro... 阅读全帖
T**********e
发帖数: 29576
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那个私人保险的market place就是个joke,价钱对年轻健康人太高,最后收集一大堆老
弱病残,无法持久。另一方面Obamacare让挣15000刀以下的穷人都能上medicaid,最后
从FICA税里出,全体纳税人掏钱,顺利实现财富redistribution,中产工作的p民又被
扒了一次皮。
Obamacare的加入人数。
In first month, the vast majority of Obamacare sign-ups are in Medicaid
The first month of the new health law’s rollout reveals an unexpected
pattern in several states: a crush of people applying for an expansion of
Medicaid and a trickle of sign-ups for private insurance.
This early imbalance — in some places, nine out of 10 enro... 阅读全帖
T**********e
发帖数: 29576
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现在为止年轻人很少加入obamacare,上的大多老弱病残,如果这个趋势不扭转,没多
少人能负担得起market place的保险了。
收音机里已经有人宣传罚款没什么可怕,如果不退联邦税的话,政府无法强制收钱。
Obamacare: Not Enough Young, Healthy Enrollees to Offset Costs
Younger, healthier Americans needed to make Obamacare financially viable are
not signing up in sufficient numbers. Most enrollees have been people over
50, many with preexisting medical conditions.
The skew toward the older crowd raises concerns that there will not be
enough payments from young people to offset the cost of provid... 阅读全帖
T**********e
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market place得保险看来很不靠谱,几个州一个月才加入了几个人,obamacare搞了半
天就是给穷人上medicaid扩大联邦补贴。
Only 5 enrollments completed in D.C. Obamacare exchange
Only five people have fully completed the enrollment process in the D.C.
insurance exchange, according to information compiled by lawmakers from four
of the insurance companies participating in the exchange.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/obamacare-enrollments-was
G****e
发帖数: 11198
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来自主题: Military版 - Obamacare果然是烙印的问题 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: GoBlue (Wolverines), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: Obamacare果然是烙印的问题
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Dec 24 06:32:30 2013, 美东)
McAfee said:
“The company used Indian programmers—in India—to code using Java Script.
On the user’s computer…Just bizarre.”
McAfee: Obamacare website code written in India, lacks “safeguards”
http://dayontheday.com/2013/10/15/mcafee-obamacare-website-code
t***h
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http://news.yahoo.com/over-10-million-u-adults-gain-coverage-un
July 23, 2014 6:00 PM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An estimated 10.3 million American adults have gained
health coverage since Obamacare enrollment began last October, with the
biggest gains among young adults and Hispanics, according to a study
published on Wednesday.
The findings by researchers from the Harvard School of Public Health,
Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston and the federal government are based
on data pointing to a 5.2 ... 阅读全帖
T**********e
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来自主题: Military版 - Obamacare保金明年又要涨不少
年底要签2015的保险合同的,大概得准备8-10%的涨价。
Obamacare rates are rising once again
Data compiled by the Health Research Institute of PricewaterhouseCoopers
from about 29 states plus the District of Columbia show that the average
premium increase for insurance starting next year is currently 8.2 percent.
But within that average, there’s a wide range.
In Arizona, for instance, the average premium increase submitted was 11.2
percent, but rates ranged from a decrease of 23 percent to a spike of 27
percent. In Arka... 阅读全帖
b*****d
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来自主题: Military版 - Schumer承认通过obamacare是个错误
Democrats made a strategic mistake by passing the Affordable Care Act, Sen.
Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the third-ranking member of the Senate Democratic
leadership, said Tuesday.
Schumer says Democrats “blew the opportunity the American people gave them
” in the 2008 elections, a Democratic landslide, by focusing on healthcare
reform instead of legislation to boost the middle class.
ADVERTISEMENT
“After passing the stimulus, Democrats should have continued to propose
middle class-oriented programs ... 阅读全帖
b*****d
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California lawmakers and activists are spearheading a first-in-the-nation
plan to let undocumented immigrants buy Obamacare health insurance.
Supporters say the California proposal, which would need federal approval
and couldn’t start until 2017, is the next logical step in expanding health
insurance to a population that was intentionally excluded from the
president’s health-care law. But uniting the two highly combustible issues
of Obamacare and immigration could reignite a fierce health-care r... 阅读全帖
b*****d
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来自主题: Military版 - 非绿卡非公民也可以obamacare?
看成非法移民了.
http://blog.visitorscoverage.com/obamacare-for-us-visa-workers/
The new Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as ‘ObamaCare’, requires
that everyone in the US have minimal essential health insurance – or else
pay the penalties. The consequences of not having minimal health care
coverage can be extreme: fees that increase every year after 2014 plus you
have to pay for all of the costs for your medical treatment – even
emergency care.
It is important to understand that ACA is not governme... 阅读全帖
t*****e
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Obamacare 的受益人群是5,60岁丢了工作的,基本上就是这些人的救命稻草了,尤其
本来就有病的。65岁以上有Medicare. Medicaid 是给小孩,孕妇,老人和残疾人的。
穷的非四种人以前是不给的,现在有些州给贫困线130% 以下的非4种人,比如加州,但
大部分州还是没有,比如宾州。Obamacare 的silver plan 是highly subsidized 的
如果你收入很低的话 (但完全没收入不行)。我一个朋友单身,月入1700,Obamacare
保费$75/月,max. out of pocket $1100/year. 去哪看都行,不用担心各种坑。2015
的价格。
g*k
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我认识的一个博士目前没有工作,也买不起obamacare,说premium贼高了。所以说它便
宜的都是听说的吧?
不但premium涨了,co-pay和deductable都涨了,连看医生的费用也涨了好吧。早就说
了,obamacare说到底还是用中产的钱去养不知道谁去了,不过是政府台面上看起来挺
高大上的而已。
美国公民只要交过40个quarter(10年)的税收,就eligible for Medicare when you
are 65+。到老了要那个劳什子obamacare做什么。
Medicaid谁说只给老弱病残用的,它就是针对低收入人群的好吧,老弱病残来说
Medicaid不过是一个辅助手段罢了。比如65+老人,80%医疗费用被Medicare cover,如
果eligible for Medicaid,那么剩下的20%就由Medicaid支付,老人自己一分钱不用出
z*****8
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来自主题: Military版 - McCain渴望和民主党合作obamacare
McCain渴望和民主党合作obamacare
McCain advocating Repealing and replacing Obamacare in the past.
https://hygo.com/news/mccain-obamacare/
https://facebook.com/HygoNews/videos/527121384307701/
https://youtu.be/T0DPBuJlGqM

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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: TravisBickle (Travis), 信区: USANews
标 题: 床铺明天要停obamacare的补贴
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 12 22:14:51 2017, 美东)
没有人类能阻挡老头了
Trump will scrap critical Obamacare subsidy
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/12/trump-obamacare-subsidy-243736
l****z
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如果奥巴马的医疗方案那么好,为什么111个公司机构被许可不按照这个法案的要求搞
医疗保险?为什么死挺这个法案的大学工会要求不纳入这个体系?
posted at 4:18 pm on November 15, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Well, thank goodness House Republicans kept Michele Bachmann out of the
leadership, because Bachmann says crazy things — like offering 111 waivers
for ObamaCare indicates a big problem in the bill. Greg Hengler clips this
portion of Bachmann’s speech at a rally in DC today protesting the bill and
the waivers, which Jazz Shaw noted yesterday even includes groups that are
de... 阅读全帖
l****z
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by Rick aka Mr. Brutally Honest
Which makes ObamaCare the largest middle class tax increase on the American
people in history.
William Jacobson, legal professor at Cornell, has an opinion worth reading
on it:
Essentially the Court accepted all of the legal arguments establishing
that Congress cannot force people to participate in commerce, which
arguments were derided by the law professor establishment, but accepted the
argument that everyone thought was a sad joke and afterthought, that th... 阅读全帖
t******g
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Obamacare? Give me a break!
Everyone has Medicare when they reach 65.
Obamacare is not everyone has coverage.
Obamacare is everyone must BUY coverage.
Obama is for poor? Come on, who give the bank big money 2008?
Obama is for himself! I AM poor( or so called middle class), but I do not
support him now. ( I did before).
t******g
发帖数: 7
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Obamacare? Give me a break!
Everyone has Medicare when they reach 65.
Obamacare is not everyone has coverage.
Obamacare is everyone must BUY coverage.
Obama is for poor? Come on, who give the bank big money 2008?
Obama is for himself! I AM poor( or so called middle class), but I do not
support him now. ( I did before).
y****t
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来自主题: USANews版 - obamacare tax reality: american families
ObamaCare’s Reality: American Families
This tax will average about $1,200 for middle-income earners and families,
with more than 80 percent of those projected to get hit having an income of
less than $50,000 per year. More broadly, American taxpayers will have to
pay about $7 billion in new ObamaCare taxes by 2016 – a number that will
rise by an additional $1 billion over the next 6 years.
President Obama also claimed that his health-care plan would extend coverage
dramatically. Yet, the CBO now... 阅读全帖
m********i
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1977年,卡特政府及其民主党议员,通过了《社区再投资法》,该法规迫使银行向低收
入家庭和低收入社区提供住房贷款;紧接着1978年又出台了《1978年平等信贷机会法》
,要求贷款机构不能因借款人种族、肤色、年龄、性别、宗教信仰、原国籍和身份差异
有任何信贷歧视。
当年的subprime loan由银行和美国公民一起承担liability。 既然是法律,就具有强
制性。一旦私人金融机构拒绝给穷人等风险很大的次级用户购房贷款,就可能因触犯法
律而遭到投诉,甚至还可能吃歧视的官司。而一旦被投诉,其业务就会遭到政府金融监
管部门的限制或终止。私人金融机构给穷人贷款的来自市场的风险很大,但不给穷人贷
款的来自政府的风险更大。所以,次债危机的爆发,不是市场“无形之手”的失灵,而
是政府“有形之手”对自由市场的强力干预所致。张五常曾说中国的制度比美国还自由
,有些道理。因为,美国的私人资本家受到的来自政府的干预和限制,在某些方面确实
比中国还厉害。这些干预和限制往往伤害了市场,并可能酿成灾难。所以,弗里德曼曾
经忧心忡忡并一针见血地指出:“美国正在滑向社会主义”。
今天的obama政府及其民主党议员... 阅读全帖
y***l
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来自主题: USANews版 - 关于Obamacare的理解和辩论。
先回答你这个,比较容易点。
你觉得你身体好,是可以付penalty,而不买保险。可是,obamacare里面哪一条保证了
这种人可以享受其他有保险的人的同样的医疗待遇?obamacare里面可没有强制所有的
医生诊所必须给没有保险的人看病。 所以你不买保险生病的后果和obamacare以前一样
,你只能去医院的ER看病,加上现在你还要付penalty.而且这个penalty是逐年上调的


purchase
sect
y***l
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来自主题: USANews版 - 关于Obamacare的理解和辩论。
其实这些也都是要等2014年Obamacare真正实施了,从各个洲的exchange市场中才能看
出到底保险公司的竞争关系怎么样。
谢谢大家的辩论,在Healthcaref方面,我是准备投Obama,给Obamacare一个展示自己
的机会了,但是如果Obamacare到了2016年还是一团糟,说不定到时候我会再回共和党
阵营。

national/
l****z
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Appeals Court Oral Arguments Signal Trouble for Obamacare HHS Mandate
A top federal appeals court signaled Friday that it might act on Obamacare’
s HHS Mandate—requiring employers to cover birth control and abortion-
related services.
After repeated assurances that the Affordable Care Act (ACA) would not
mandate abortion or people of faith violating their religious beliefs, the
Obama administration issued a mandate requiring both, when Secretary
Kathleen Sebelius issued a rule from the U.S. Dep... 阅读全帖
g***y
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来自主题: USANews版 - Obamacare的一点简单计算
首先一些基本数据
目前美国uninsured population大概是15%.
现在medical costs per year大概是$2.5T. 分摊到每个insured person头上大概是$
10000.
如果Obamacare开始,看看insurance的变化。
15% uninsured最少每人增加$2000,对应不缴insurance, 被罚款的情况,
最多每人增加$10000,对应缴insurance的情况。
因此增加的总金额大概在$90B到$450B, 增幅在3.6%到18%。
假设这个增幅全部由employer和现在insured population承担,
如果保持现有employer和employee分摊的比例,每个employee分担的insurance将上涨3
.6%到18%,shareholder承担其余的成本。
如果employer将增加的成本转移到employee头上,每个人的insurance将上涨更多。
再看看就医需求的变化。
如果15%uninsured population全部被Obamacare cover
最佳情况:如果这些人就医的频率不... 阅读全帖
l****z
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Obamacare will increase the long-term federal deficit by $6.2 trillion,
according to a Government Accountability Office (GAO) report released today.
Senator Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.), who requested the report, revealed the
findings this morning at a Senate Budget Committee hearing. The report, he
said, “confirms everything critics and Republicans were saying about the
faults of this bill,” and “dramatically proves that the promises made
assuring the nation that the largest new entitlement program... 阅读全帖
g***y
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http://www.realtor.org/small_business_health_coverage.nsf/docfi
今年1月1日生效:个人$200K, 家庭$250K收入为一条线,以上的收入交3.8%的
Obamacare tax.
收入除了正常收入,还包括Interest, dividends, rents, capital gains.
其中capital gain包含卖房的收入。如果$500K买入,$1.2M卖出,capital gain就是$
700K, 如果是自住的一套房,$700K中有$500K免税,剩下$200K交3.8%的Obamacare tax
,如果是二套房,$700K都得得交3.8%的Obamacare tax.
这和土共的新国五条是一个思路,只是税率不同。
此外这里还有收入税和财产税的区别么? 卖房的增值算收入还是财产?
l****z
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ObamaCare Credits Could Trigger Surprise Tax Bills for Millions: “That’s
scary. I had no idea, and I work in health care”
by Jammie
Nobody in Washington read the damn bill, so why would anyone expect the
schlubs forced into ObamaCare to know what the hell surprises await them. Is
it any wonder Obama’s running around campaigning on anything other than
ObamaCare these days? He’d rather focus on anything else to distract the
low-information voters out there.
Millions of people who take advantag... 阅读全帖
l****z
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ObamaCare Event in Virginia Draws Overflow Crowd of … One Person »
by Jammie
No stopping that ObamaCare momentum now.
That means gatherings like today’s in Centreville — although the slow
start here is probably not what OFA organizers had in mind. After a
scheduling snafu over the start time, a few people showed up and left before
it actually started. Just one volunteer stayed to help work the phone bank
for the health law, and the event’s organizer bolted after 20 minutes —
although he... 阅读全帖
z****0
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(Reuters) - Americans will pay an average premium of $328 monthly for a mid-
tier health insurance plan when the Obamacare health exchanges open for
enrollment next week, and most will qualify for government subsidies to
lower that price, the Obama administration said on Wednesday.
The figure, based on data for approved insurance plans in 48 states,
represents the broadest national estimate for how much Americans will pay
for health coverage under President Barack Obama's healthcare reform law
n... 阅读全帖
l****z
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ObamaCare Sticker Shock in Nebraska: “Stupid me, I took the president
literally”
by Jammie
You accepted his lies and now you’re going to pay for it. Feels bad being
played for a sucker, huh?
Todd Blome’s phone has been ringing off the hook this week with clients
seeking tax advice after learning they’ll get a “shocking increase” in
their health insurance premiums when Obamacare’s health insurance exchanges
begin operating.
Letters have been landing in mailboxes all over Nebraska explaini... 阅读全帖
p**j
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这里讨论的是obamacare,你没有工作许可,跟obamacare有什么关系?你准备以非法移
民的身份买obamacare?
c*****g
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没有obamacare的时候,医保费一年涨10~20,有了obamacare,医保一年涨50%
而且这还不可能是一次性的,因为从penalty的涨幅来看,obamacare的保费的涨幅不会低
Jan. 1, 2014— Most people who don't have insurance coverage by this date
will face
a tax penalty of $95 for individual adults or 1 percent of their income,
whichever is higher.
Jan. 1, 2015—You must have coverage for the year by this date or pay a
penalty of $325 for individual adults or 2 percent of income, whichever is
higher.
Jan. 1, 2016—Penalty for adults not having health insurance jumps to $695... 阅读全帖
c*****g
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来自主题: USANews版 - 灾难来临:ObamaCare的时间表
没有obamacare,一年涨20%
有了obamacare,一年涨50%
竟然还有伪右派说什么:“有了obamacare,我们可以放心提前退休了”
这和当年obama上任,那些参加就职大典的老黑说“obama上台后,我们的grocery就免
费了”
如出一辙啊
c*****g
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来自主题: USANews版 - 小学数学题:ObamaCare的本质
对于低收入的老中,以前没有obamacare的时候,直接买一张飞机票回国看,都要比在
霉国看省钱
就算对于低收入的老墨,生了什么病,也可以回墨西哥看
别跟我说什么ER。ER本来就是可以赖账的,和obamacare无关。
obamacare,大大加大了全社会的成本。让霉国的医疗从veli veli bad 走向
extremely horrible

make
c*****g
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版上除了你,没有人在专门盯着五六十岁的失业硅公,
连你挺obamacare的同党们都在举年收入在8万以下的屌丝
你要硬是说五六十岁失业硅工,
请你算算,
硅公在失业前因obamacare多交的钱,
与obamacare之后能“省”下的钱相比,总和哪个更多?
D***n
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我实际上不喜欢民主党也不喜欢Obamacare,我们家这个plan一分钱好处都没有。
但是,没有Obamacare,这钱,一分钱也不会落你的口袋里,政府会换个思路来骗钱,
比如共和党喜欢滥印钞票然后伙同华尔街给你搞个“Too big to fall"的救助方案,一
样是刮钱。
我一想,两个比起来,把钱送给华尔街大佬还不如送给穷人,后者起码听起来动听一点
,所以wo让我选,我还是选less evil的obamacare。
l**t
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我靠,你真是智力有问题啊?
正因为HP/Lucent/IBM被layoff的老员工没有多少能成功跳到FLAG,所以才需要
Obamacare。有了Obamacare,你才可能享受以前积累下来的果实。没有Obamacare,你
就只能等着一旦生一场大病,一生的积累就化为乌有。
c*****g
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绕来绕去,打了那么多字,关键问题还是没有提
我就问你以下几个问题,请正面回答:
1.对于年收入在9万的药剂师,他们的保费,在obamacare之后相比之前是提高了还是减
少了?
2.对于拿最低工资的售货员,他们的保费,在obamacare之后,相比之前由walgreen提供
,是增加还是减少了?
3.Walgreenss员工的copay, deductible, coinsuance是增加了还是减少了?
实际上,Walgreens之所以不给员工上保险,
是因为obamacare强制公司自有保险需要花额外的开销
去养低效的政府,无良的保险公司,
本来公司有这笔钱可以给自己的员工提供更好的医疗福利,但由于来自政府的强制性负
担增加了
公司内部的福利必然减少
霉国必然有大量公司,无法负担 无度挥霍的政府和垄断巨头,所以最后,大家都没得
玩。
d*****w
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你去下载一下第三方做的最新报告吧。
http://kaiserfamilyfoundation.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/early
我们都不是walgreens的员工,当然无从知道他们的保险。但根据常识,没有Obamacare
前的最便宜保险,总的premium不会低于300美元/月吧?
Walgreens都说了,会吧原先公司付给保险公司的钱给员工,让员工直接到market上去
买保险。
根据上述的pdf文件,岁17个州做的统计,30%/70%的Silver Plan,4口家庭,2 个大人
40岁,2个小孩18岁以下,60K AGI,每月保费扣除补贴后在400美元上下。
相信Walgreens的大部分员工的平均工资不会超过15美元,也就是1年3万。如果夫妻双
方都拿这个工资,4口之家AGI可能只有3万都不到。你自己算吧,拿到Walgreens的补贴
后,他们是走以前公司的保险合适还是Obamacare合算?
分析之后可能会发现,Walgreens很聪明,做了一个W-W决定,虽然会得罪一些高新员工
(谁又知道是否Walgreens给那些人多些补贴呢?),但... 阅读全帖
s*******f
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来自主题: USANews版 - 对 obamaCare 的几个问题 - CA
哦,挺聪明的嘛。
我老公说,不用担心,这么多人研究,审核,修正呢。如果有什么漏洞很快会补上的。
他们公司刚刚寄来一封信。说是公司被要求普及宣传和promote obamaCare。寄来的材
料上说如果你是 part time, 现在可以用考虑 obamaCare 了。如果公司本来给你买医
保了,你也可以去网站上比较一下,看看是不是有更好的 deal 什么什么的。公司HR还
赶紧附了另一张纸大字注明公司明年的保险不变。原来 qualify 的现在还是 cover,
原来不 qualify 的,每周工作24小时以下的还是不 cover。而且说HR并不了解
obamaCare 的细节,感兴趣的可以自己找相关资料,agent 去购买。
x******k
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https://www.facebook.com/Healthcare.gov
The reviews of the website failures/prices of Obamacare/lack of customer
service are downright comical. These aren't trolls, these are Obamacare
supporters realizing the TRUTH about Obamacare after finding out the details
from the official website.
D***n
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来自主题: USANews版 - 这里人对Obamacare最大的误解
就现在美国政府这入不敷出的情况,向老百姓收税是一定的。穷人没钱,富人逃税,所
以收税就是收割中产。所以现在两党讨论的不是收不收的问题,而是用什么名义收的问
题。
民主党用大政府的手段,就是所谓Obamacare,说白了是一个凯恩斯主义,以政府投资
强行带动消费。
共和党不喜欢凯恩斯方法,他们喜欢类似Subprime,量化宽松(就是通货膨胀),发动
战争等的所谓“市场化”方法来收税。
这里很多人号称抵制Obamacare是因为他要收税是搞错了实质和表象,收税是本质,怎
么收是只是表象。
顺便:我认为民主党人最后会赢,因为共和党,特别是茶党目前没有比Obamacare更好
的借口收税。共和党以前那个subprime,最后狂印钞票的法子对美国的经济伤害太大。
茶党要求的彻底减税,停止印钞的主张=休克疗法,美国没有任何政治家,包括Ron
Paul敢立刻尝试。
共和党现在光喊口号是不行的,还是要有点实质的方案。
V**3
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obamacare 通过了就让他通过, 总的向前看不是? 是骡子是马溜一溜再说
实际上对obmacare的开火,掩盖了另一个严重问题,提高debt ceil
ing
实际上没有obamacare,共和党这次也不会通过参院的预算案,因为又要升高debt
ceiling
美国的借债规模越来越大,这个问题不可能不解决,这次却被obamacare 问题给掩盖了
d*****y
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: LiYapeng (其实喜欢的是你老婆), 信区: Military
标 题: 身边朋友的经历看obamacare
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 10 13:34:56 2013, 美东)
其实是老婆的朋友的老公丢工作了。
背景:老婆的朋友和她老公都是berkeley本科毕业,她老公也工作十多年了,工资应该
很高。家里俩小孩,3岁5岁。两年前在95131买的房子,不知道现在loan多少。他老婆
part time工作。
两个月前公司被别人买了,他工资比较高,被裁了。工资发到9月30号。10月1号正式
off the payroll.
结果现在cobra一个月:$2300
想换成便宜点的plan,好像是blue cross? 一个月说好像是4到5百?
然后说想趁好的plan没到期之前去做个checkup,去医院查了一下,结果医院说建议他
去看一个什么专科医生,结果预约那个医生就预约到了10月中。为了保险能cover那个
专科医生,他们只要又接着用$2300的保险...
好几个朋友原来都对obamacare深恶... 阅读全帖
l****z
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12:04 PM, Oct 11, 2013 • By DANIEL HALPER
Last night, the organization formerly known as President Obama's reelection
campaign, Organizing for Action, held an Obamacare event in Greenville,
South Carolina. The event was called "Obamacare and You!"
"Let's discuss what this Affordable Care Act means for you and your
community. This session will help you understand the benefits and will equip
you to spread the word about the benefits of Obamacare in your community.
Come out and get the facts!... 阅读全帖
z******a
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【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: zerobama (obama), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 惊诧! Obamacare 难道是骗人的?! 难道是不能兑现的空头支票?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Dec 7 15:41:28 2013, 美东)
Doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange
BY RICHARD POLLOCK | DECEMBER 6, 2013 AT 7:27 AM
An estimated seven out of every 10 physicians in deep-blue California are
rebelling against the state's Obamacare health insurance exchange and won't
participate, the head of the state's largest medical association said.
“It doesn't surprise ... 阅读全帖
l****z
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White House Forces Obamacare Insurers To Cover Unpaid Patients At A Loss
by Jammie
Of all of the last-minute delays, website bungles, and Presidential whims
that have marred the roll-out of Obamacare’s subsidized insurance exchanges
, what happened on Thursday, December 12 will stand as one of the most
lawless acts yet committed by this administration. The White House—having
canceled Americans’ old health plans, and having botched the system for
enrolling people in new ones—knows that millions o... 阅读全帖
T*********I
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责怪医生的都是看芝麻不看西瓜的。
从加州70%医生推出obamacare就可以看出来。
《即便在加州,70%的医生不接受obamacare》
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/USANews/31539199.html
工资高虽然最高的那部分税高,但是仍然是net profit也大。仍然是赚钱。
现在医生说宁愿退出obamacare也不接病人,可见是不赚钱的。
律师最x蛋了。美国的现在的司法就是个joke。从高院开始,到最下面的律师。不好的
很多。
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