K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 1 偶的partner是SHBH, 其反手削球已经达到偶无法抵御级别，偶不少
inside out或者反手cross court重球他都可以很平的削过来，很不好
处理。
相反，偶作为SHBH, 削球却很弱，打打lob还可以，低削深度控制很差，
经常不是太浅就是出界，而且基本就靠小臂和手腕控制力量。
怎样提高削球水平？ |
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 2 SHBH不会削球真是网坛奇芭呀.人家拼命对着你的反手打的时候,你都是干嘛的?我3.0的
时候全都是反手削回去的...
现在越来越发觉
- 老啃谈技术,经典的有手腕派,SHBH/DHBH削球.
和
- 阿东谈器材,经典的有AK90,BLX90
都是一个样:
不靠铺呀~~ |
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g*y
发帖数: 2354 | 3 Thanks for sharing. I am learning the exact timing of changing from cross
court to down-the-line on SHBH recently, and this vid helps. |
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s***g
发帖数: 259 | 4 it is said to be rare, but I really really liked it, especially for hitting
winners from half court.
more interestingly, if you do wester SHBH, what is your forehand grip? |
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s*********4
发帖数: 3362 | 5 I am western SHBH.
my forehand is semi-western. |
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f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 6 won the title.
stick on SHBH, day day up.
hehe. |
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d**********9
发帖数: 5215 | 7 nope, i think Guesquet has better shbh than FF |
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a*******e
发帖数: 12169 | 8 【 以下文字转载自 TennisOnly 俱乐部 】
发信人: areyoueye (关注食事，了解食尚), 信区: TennisOnly
标 题: 奔一下SHBH drill
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Oct 15 13:59:06 2011, 美东)
终于天晴了，结果又刮大风。没有电动发球机，就用人工发球，更加的随机。
大家轻点拍哈 |
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f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 9 hi, all fellow SHBHers,
How you guys practice your SHBH? with machine or with wall?
how? do drills? |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 12 Nice, you are improving fast. That's good news for your ATL team if you guys
advance to division 5. Just one small note, you might want to keep your
left hand on the racquet longer on those SHBH. |
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c*******n
发帖数: 1769 | 13 I was just fooling around with shbh, not really
seriously pursuing it :), other than that, any advice?
Teacher well, no advice, your theory level is comparable
to mentor black
guys |
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s**h
发帖数: 1889 | 14 你的ID是什么呀？:
shbh
家住哪洲哪城啊？（恩，对，我就是查户口的）:
Greenbelt, MD
平时有什么兴趣爱好啊？:
潜水(bbs上)。羽毛球，网球。
(optional)籍贯专业毕业学校星座血型等（8g的不是我:
山东，南大，宝瓶，O
你还想告诉我们什么呢？:
其实我是马甲 |
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w********r
发帖数: 1397 | 15 I started playing tennis with DHBH, since I didn't trust myself that I had
enough power to hit the top spins with one hand as a beginner, plus I didn't
know the correct grip method for SHBH at that time, shame on me. About 2
years ago, I switched to SHBH. With the right timing and balanced move on
the court, you can create big angle shot by using SHBH. You can also deal
with the high-bounced top spins with the SH slice which used to be a defect
on my DHBH. So far I feel comfortable with my SHBH |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 16 all my tennis opponents know i have strong, consistent forehand
but weak backhand due to SHBH, i know some players switched from
SHBH to DHBH, the key is improving your skills, no matter which
style you play, try to play to your potentials.
The SHBH player Federer just won Wimboldon today as 31 y.o. player! |
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w*****u
发帖数: 299 | 17 If coming ball is in hitting range, DHBH will have advantage against SHBH
for sure. Just imagin Safin and Federer exchange BH cross court.
The good thing about SHBH is more coverage, and slicing return.
So I suggest, and I'm doing now, learn both technique. When ball is in
hitting range, use DHBH; when you need stretch or coming ball is low bounced
, use SHBH.
difficult
pace
consistent
the |
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 18 It is not true SHBH has less footwork requirment.
using SHBH, you need to run even faster and setup even sooner. That's why a
lot of SHBH players use slice a lot more in their games than DHBH players.
The error margin is very little, and the requirement is a lot high. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 19 dpg said SHBH needs to run even faster and setup even sooner.
I believe she was talking about backhand drive. For slice,
there is no need to run that fast.
I said DHBH requires more running if the player refuses to use
slice. For topspin/flat drives, DHBH does save half a step if
using open stance.
Because of that, I stressed the importance that SHBH only saves
footwork in low level tennis because it is more common for low
level DHBH players to refuse to slice than their SHBH partners.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 20 Sure, I completely agree with you that SHBH drive is a lot harder
to hit than DHBH. My SHBH is constantly weaker than my forehand.
But I also hold the opinion that SHBH slice is easier than any
DHBH stroke in the sense of error margin.
can
movem
in
poi |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 21 The preparation forms are different. So you will either have an
awkward SHBH or an awkward DHBH, more likely the latter.
e.g., if you use SHBH preparation right after the opponent hits
the ball, but find out later that it is actually a deep topspin,
you will need to change to DHBH in a hurry. On the other hand,
you start with DHBH, but then the ball is nice and slow, then
you'll need to switch to SHBH. |
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c*********e
发帖数: 1389 | 22 not exactly, now i started to use dhbh more regardless of opponents' level
in both double and single games. i only use shbh for aggressive play on
short or wide balls or when i am completely strectched out.
i started transition to use dhbh to return serves 6 or 7 years ago. for the
last 2 years, i only get chance to play singles briefly in summer time with
asus when i can practice shbh. and insideout dumped me out for weekday night
one on one practice. so i naturally become more comfortable with... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 23 interesting, I like Christophe Delavaut (oxygentennis) analysis. For this
particular BH, I would argue that not many WTA players hit that much topspin
, thus Henien's way is fine. Also the analysis was made in 2010.
If you look at today's game, no pro will tell your Fed has the best SHBH. He
may process a SHBH with most variation, but certainly not the most powerful
. I think Almagro, Wawrinka, Gasquet are today's top SHBH(havent had too
much time to study Dimitrov, but should be up there too)... 阅读全帖 |
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c*********e
发帖数: 1389 | 24 i teach myself DHBH return for kick serve. from my experience, DHBH is
better than SHBH because DHBH makes it easier to hit on the rise and fine
tune the angle or pace with very short backswing or even no swing when you
are stretched out. as you said timing is critical, i think it more important
for SHBH because the ball kicking up or away from you gives no power to
borrow so SHBHer has to swing and timing become more difficult, when the
swing is increased. boil it down, extra hand on the handle |
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x*o
发帖数: 1037 | 25 hehe, now you feel what I feel :)
The problem with POG is SHBH. The sweet spot may not be that "sweet". In ano
the word, it's may not be solid enough for SHBH.
With DHBH, it's all good. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 26 my coach is only 5.8, he uses 4 5/8, i use 4 1/4
he said bigger grip size is good for SHBH...
i am SHBH, so maybe i should buy 4 3/8 next time.. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 27 SHBH has lower requirement for footwork in NTRP 3.5 or lower
in the sense that it's more natural for SHBH to switch between
backhand drive and slice than DHBH. If you chase every ball down
using DHBH, it surely requires more running, hehe.
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 28 yeap, I mean SHBH drive, compare with DHBH drive.
I seldom see people use DHBH to slice though, maybe it is wahy when I talk a
bout SHBH, I always have drive rather than slice in my mind. |
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W*N
发帖数: 1354 | 29 In Nick Bollettiere's video, he says that everyone has its own style, but he
recommends everyone to try at least both SHBH and DHBH to see which fits
them better.
Different people have different style. Some people can play SHBH very well,
but suck at DHBH and some people are exactly the opposite. |
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W*N
发帖数: 1354 | 30 He actually gave two examples. One is Pete Sampras, who started with DHBH
but was really bad at it and improved his game greatly when switched over to
SHBH. There was another boy who was using SHBH but had to switch to DHBH to
improve his game.
he
, |
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W*N
发帖数: 1354 | 31 I am not sure how late is late in the original post, but I don't consider
starting at high school late. I feel that when you start to learn when you
pass 25 or so, that is late, since then a person's body is no longer quick
to learn a new sport.
I am not sure either SHBH or DHBH is easy at all if you learn it by yourself
. Tennis is not really a self-study sport; it has a pretty high threshold to
even to start. When you follow the instructions closely and practice a lot,
SHBH and DHBH would both |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 32 Great touch and very atheletic!
One opinion though: if you want to use SHBH for low balls, it's
probably better to slice it rather than drive it. If you can drive
a ball using SHBH, you surely can drive it using DHBH. |
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s*****g
发帖数: 180 | 33 I think there should be no difference. But somebody said you could improve
SHBH by using SHBH player's racquet? |
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W*********l
发帖数: 624 | 34
which
i think slice is like riding a bicycle - once you got it, you'll never
forget. sometimes what it takes is just a click. but clicking for shbh? no
way. most ppl below 2.0 or 2.5 here can never get real shbh in their
lifetime. |
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a*m
发帖数: 6253 | 35 Ft, big head(>100) is no good for SHBH for sure.
So as long as someone use SHBH, he/she should at least try something around
95. |
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 36 nothing to do with shbh. Just happened that those three
players with good backhand are shbh :) Some 4.0 with
solid dhbh still can beat you |
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 37 I don't know how I started with dhbh, and it seems working well for me. I
can hit with shbh if I get myself in position (the footwork is a bit
different for dhbh and shbh). Anyway, my dhbh is reasonably good and is
probably better than my forehand, hehe.
The last year or two, I developed single hand backhand slice as one of my
weapons. I can slice the ball with control of depth and spin. It works
quite well specially when I am in a defense position. |
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 38 Do not think so. Only thing is dh can not slice well. But they do can
hit all kind of ground strokes: flat, topspin, down the line, or cross
court. You did not meet before does not mean it is lack of variety.
No matter what, footwork is the fundamental for ALL kind of shots.
Use shbh does not guarantee a good footwork.
Deep and heavy top spin to backhand is the deadly shots for shbh players,
even for pros. I wish you will have chance to play with xmo :) |
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 39 nah, I don't think it will help for shbh. Actually it makes shbh worse
because the arm should be kinda straight when you hit the ball and follow
through.
what |
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 40 No it just means my backhand isn't good and needs more practice :)
If your forehand isn't good what do you do? switch to backhand? lol
Actually I have done both shbh and dhbh. I never liked dhbh even though in
a pinch I have used it. shbh is more elegant and in some ways more
effective because you can more easily disguise your shots. I can disguise
my 1hbh so well that oftentimes I even fooled myself where my shot actually
went to... |
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f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 41 why many people say that his SHBH is the best?
what are the areas that his SHBH are better than others'?
t |
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J***e
发帖数: 283 | 42 as i remember, actually most ppl showed up in the party play shbh... lol
i decided to give up shbh because i am not strong enough, don't wanna play
slice all the time, hoho |
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s*********d
发帖数: 2406 | 43 现在主力拍啊 ，都打了一年了
如果说 cons的话
拍面大了 ， 无论16*19 还是 18×20
没有prestige solid
其实看测试数据 ， 同级别的 Power 差距在20以内
基本可以 忽略，但是因为拍面大，被暴力男所不喜 。
发球还是不错的，7.8 HL，发球不错，但是我的问题是，感觉下压不是很好，不知道是
我的姿势问题，还是球拍，也就是说平击一般，但是kick 和 topspin 不错
正手很不错，我的cross 和 down the line 都有很多winner
反手比较尴尬，第一 pattern ，如果你是THBH还ok， 像我SHBH，比较郁闷
经常变成topsin， 被人搞死， 我 partner 经常这样攻击我
换成 96 “ 的 我的SHBH立马上升0.5
net 的感觉不错。
Head 的漆一向不行，白色就更明显了。
俺从 Midwest 买的 local demo sale |
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a***8
发帖数: 2433 | 44 加奎斯特, Henin, Haas... the SHBH players are fading out...BUT, the next
GOAT candidate will still be a SHBH...I hope |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 45 Everybody is talking about SHBH's disadvantage handling high balls.
Why nobody talks about DHBH's disadvantage handling low balls?
Very few DHBH amateurs can handle low/short slices well either.
Not a problem for SHBH. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 46 Everybody is talking about SHBH's disadvantage handling high balls.
Why nobody talks about DHBH's disadvantage handling low balls?
Very few DHBH amateurs can handle low/short slices well either.
Not a problem for SHBH. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 47 The highest ranked SHBH pros (top 50)
MALE
Federer #3
Almagro #12
Youzhny #14
Wawrinka #15
Gasquet #18
Montanes #23
Llodra #25
Garcia-Lopez #27
Robredo #29
Kohlschreiber #32
Stakhovsky #38
Golubev #39
Ljubicic #40
Feliciano Lopez #43
FEMALE
Schiavone #4
Vinci #37
Dominguez Lino #47
Looks like Italian women really like SHBH... |
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O*********r
发帖数: 1835 | 48 A point to be proved by Data King:
A = number of ATP players using SHBH;
B = those among A that make to top 30.
A' = number of ATP players using DHBH;
B' = those among A1 that make to top 30.
I suspect: B/A > B'/A'. That is, the percentage of successful SHBH players
is higher. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 49 I am not sure about that, but I am surprised by the number of
top 30 SHBH players.
Looks like SHBH is nowhere from dying...
players |
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 50 我觉得用好SHBH的选手需要比DHBH的天分好，
而且有毅力，比如小德就是不能坚持而改成DHBH的。
所以虽然用SHBH的基数不大，但是成功的比例很大。 |
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