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W***n
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Takata Puts Worst-Case Airbag Recall Costs at $24 Billion
Yuki Hagiwara, Takako Taniguchi,Bloomberg Tue, Mar 29 10:41 PM PDT .
Takata Corp., the supplier behind the auto industry’s biggest recall
ever, estimated that a comprehensive callback of its airbag inflators would
total about 2.7 trillion yen ($24 billion), according to a person familiar
with the matter. The shares plunged.
The worst-case recall scenario would involve 287.5 million airbag inflators,
said the person, who asked not to be... 阅读全帖
W***n
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Truck carrying Takata air bag materials explodes in Texas, killing one
(Reuters) - A truck transporting Takata Corp <7312.T> air bag propellant
material at the center of a global recall crashed and exploded in Texas last
week, killing one woman and injuring four other people, the auto parts
supplier said on Monday.
Takata said the truck, operated by a subcontractor, was traveling from a
Takata plant in Moses Lake, Washington, to a Takata warehouse in Eagle Pass,
Texas, early on Aug. 22 when an a... 阅读全帖
f*******e
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又被收割了。
Japanese auto parts maker Takata Corp. has pleaded guilty to one count of
wire fraud, and agreed to pay $1 billion for concealing a defect in millions
of its air bag inflators.
The decision played out in a federal courtroom in Detroit on Monday,
following a deal with the U.S. Justice Department.
The Wall Street Journal reports:
"Takata's finance chief, Yoichiro Nomura, entered the guilty plea on the
company's behalf during court proceedings.
"He said actions of certain employees w... 阅读全帖
W***n
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来自主题: Automobile版 - Takata Recalls Another 3.3 Million Air Bags
Takata Recalls Another 3.3 Million Air Bags Under U.S. Order
By Craig Trudell
January 6, 2018, 10:40 AM CST
Takata Corp., the parts supplier that filed for bankruptcy after sparking
the largest auto recall in history, called back 3.3 million air bags as part
of a U.S. order that scheduled repairs of the potentially deadly devices
over several years.
The supplier identified at least 15 automakers that purchased the air bags,
including Toyota Motor Corp., Honda Motor Co., General Motors Co., BMW A... 阅读全帖
s******y
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Takata 生产的气囊被发现有问题,不单在被撞的时候可能产生爆炸,甚至在受潮的时
候也可能主动爆炸。超过130个案例可能和这个公司的气囊有关,Honda和Toyota 的
车大量使用了这个公司生产的气囊,所以受这个recall 影响最大。
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/all-takata-airbag-recall-v
这个是受到影响的车型清单(到目前为止)。车主必须立即到dealer 那里换气囊。
BMW: 627,615 vehicles
2000-05 3-series sedan
2000-06 3-series coupe
2000-05 3-series sports wagon
2000-06 3-series convertible
2001-06 M3 coupe
2001-06 M3 convertible
Chrysler: 371,309 vehicles
2003-08 Dodge Ram 1500
2005-08 Dodge Ram 2500
2006-08 Dodge Ram 3500
2006-08 Dod... 阅读全帖
W***n
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来自主题: Automobile版 - Takata's massive 34 mil airbag recall
Smart guy, check it out yourself!
Recalls Over Takata Airbag Defects Grow to 34 Million
By DANIELLE IVORY and HIROKO TABUCHIMAY 19, 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/20/business/takata-airbag-recall
D***0
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来自主题: Automobile版 - Takata 新款的侧气囊也出事了
怎么大众的新车用日本气囊?被忽悠瘸了还是为了图成本低?还有别的新车也用takata
气囊么?
[在 KingofMS (你太有才了) 的大作中提到:]
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/u-s-expands-takata-air-bag-probe-after-explosion-brand-n411941
T*******y
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WASHINGTON — American Honda Motor Co. is recalling 4.5 million vehicles to
replace defective Takata front-passenger inflators in two new campaigns, the
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced on Friday.
More than half of those vehicles (2.3 million) have been recalled previously
for similar issues.
The recalled Honda and Acura vehicles are:
2003-'06 Acura MDX
2005-'11 Acura RL
2009-'11 Acura TSX
2010-'11 Acura ZDX
2008-'11 Honda Accord
2010-'11 Honda Accord Crosstour
2006-'11 Ho... 阅读全帖
a******a
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: acongasa (jobhunting), 信区: Military
标 题: 日本特务,格蕾丝高的坐骑,kayaker, takata, haruhashi祖辈真是劣迹斑斑
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Apr 1 19:03:54 2016, 美东)
这个贱毙日文爆料,他爷爷南京保卫战期间,当间谍,
给日本飞机做引导,在日本轰炸南京期间,在城里晚上点火,
给日本飞行员做标示轰炸位置。

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/06/26/takata-air-bag-recall-
lista/427828001/
今天收到notice,查了下,我的车都不在list上,放心了
l*********u
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估计Takata要破产
m******d
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来自主题: Automobile版 - Takata's massive 34 mil airbag recall
Takata 能搞成toyota
我是比不了你stupid
W***n
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来自主题: Automobile版 - Takata's massive 34 mil airbag recall
The airbags were manufactured by Takata!
w*********r
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http://www.safercar.gov/rs/takata/index.html
这种日本制造的气囊,打开时会有金属块像子弹一样冲出。
NPR说recall大大扩张了。影响到的车型从本田一直扩张到很大一部分常见车型:BMW,
Chrysler, Daimler Trucks, Ford, General Motors, Honda, Mazda, Mitsubishi,
Nissan, Subaru and Toyota
K******S
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K******S
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来自主题: Automobile版 - Takata 新款的侧气囊也出事了
1/5的全球气囊市场份额

:怎么大众的新车用日本气囊?被忽悠瘸了还是为了图成本低?还有别的新车也用
takata气囊么?
D***0
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来自主题: Automobile版 - Takata 新款的侧气囊也出事了
根据这个
http://www.autonews.com/article/20150818/OEM11/150819870/tesla-
市面上用了takata气囊却没有做recall的就VW和Tesla两家了。
r***i
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来自主题: Automobile版 - Takata气囊真是丰田的大救星啊
臭不要脸的,又拿过时数据来忽悠人
丰田遇到大量召回就分成几次,所以自动加速几千万的召回没上榜
还有takata的召回,也是,全球5300万,美国3400万召回都被分散了
我的数据当然来自nhtsa的recall数据库,自己查一下不就知道了
l*********u
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来自主题: Automobile版 - Takata气囊真是丰田的大救星啊
气囊召回,Takata肯定管气囊parts,labor费用谁出?
Honda赖着不召回,好像labor由车厂出。

1150
l*******g
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来自主题: Automobile版 - Takata气囊真是丰田的大救星啊
有了 takata,丰田彻底放心了
可以可劲吹自己质量天下第一
T*******y
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a******d
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来自主题: Automobile版 - Takata 终于破产了
有种说法takata破产是为了防止受害者大额索赔。。破产以后赔偿额度可以大幅减小
c********s
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请问有人收到Takata Airbag Recall通知了吗?听说有的车要拖到2020年以后。换之前
车开着不安全。听说可以找车行要替代车
e**********0
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朋友是生物的PHD,毕业后没有做博士后而竟然去了波士顿的Takata公司。看介绍这家
公司是做汽车安全气囊的。请问它也做生物相关的研究吗?
m****a
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Takara,Takeda和Takata 三个公司,去哪个比较油钱途?
D***0
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 开本田的同学注意了
已知伤亡列表 http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2014/takata-airbag-deaths-and-injuries.shtml
Charlene Weaver of Arizona / 2004 Subaru Impreza / Fatal
November 1, 2003: Charlene Weaver was a passenger in a 2004 Subaru Impreza
when she was killed in an alleged Takata airbag-related accident. That car
was not recalled until July of 2014.
Ashley Parham of Midwest City, Oklahoma / 2001 Honda Accord / Fatal
May 27, 2009: Ashley Parham was killed while driving a 2001 Honda Accord in
a parking lot. The Accord ... 阅读全帖
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更新一下,来自http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/takata-airbag-recall-list-expanded.shtml
另外大众和telsa是用了takata气囊却到现在没宣布召回的唯二厂家。
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/08/20/vw-tesla-recall-takata-airba
Vehicles in bold print have been added or updated to the Takata airbag
recall list as of September 16, 2015.
BMW Takata Recall List
2000 BMW 328i
2001-2006 BMW M3
2002-2003 BMW M5
2000 BMW 323i
2002-2006 BMW 325Ci
2002-2006 BMW 330Ci
2002-2003 BMW 325iT
2002-2003 BMW 325XiT
2001-2006 BMW 325i
2001-2005 BMW 325X... 阅读全帖
W***n
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“Mummy -- Car!”
Welhelmo Rodriguez Caido Jr., 41, blurted out the warning as he was riding
in the passenger seat of a Honda City driven by his wife, whom he
endearingly called Mummy. A moment later, as they entered an intersection in
the Malaysian town of Sibu on July 27, a collision with an oncoming car set
off the air bag with such force it knocked Caido out.
On the driver’s side, the inflator inside the air bag, made by Takata Corp.
(7312), malfunctioned and ruptured, firing a one-inch-wide s... 阅读全帖
X***9
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 开本田的同学注意了
我贴一下详细信息吧。这个是高田气囊的回召,高田气囊可能因为释放力道太强而把一
些老旧松掉的配件震碎然后以飞溅的方式对成员造成伤害。
有以下车型的同学要注意一下
贴一下受影响厂家的回复态度和可能的车型列表
宝马车型
In support of NHTSA's Preliminary Evaluation (PE14-016) into Takata Holdings
' airbags,
and at the request of NHTSA, BMW will conduct a voluntary limited regional
parts
collection campaign for the vehicles identified below, although BMW has not
determined
that a safety defect exists:
为了支持nhtsa的高田气囊评估,宝马会配合自愿有限度的区域性的回召以下车型
2001 - 2005/3 Series Sedan
2001 - 2006/ 3 Series Coupe
2001 - 2005/3 ... 阅读全帖
w**e
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这好像是honda因为同样的问题第五次还是第六次召回了,还是老话,死一批,招一次
In a rare supplier-side rippling effect, six automakers are issuing the same
recall to fix at least 3.4 million cars due to defective airbags shipped
from the Japanese supplier Takata Corp.
Certain Honda, Mazda, Nissan, Toyota, BMW and Pontiac models have front
passenger airbags with inflators that could rupture and injure occupants
during a crash. Honda said the airbags could deploy with too much pressure
and cause the casing of the inflator to break apa... 阅读全帖
f****t
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 丰田入主后,subaru recall明显增加
丰田入主后,subaru recall明显增加
****************************
Subaru Recalls
Has your vehicle been recalled? Search our complete Subaru recall list for
the latest updates and safety reports on your vehicle. Visit SaferCar.gov to
report problems with your vehicle, non-original vehicle equipment, tires or
car seats. Your complaint information will be entered in the National
Highway Traffic Safety Administration's vehicle owner complaint database and
used with other complaints to determine if there is a saf... 阅读全帖
m**c
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近期福特召回太多,丰田不想被抢了头牌,于是...
在召回数量上一举胜出。
老色狼请乱入。
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/05/13/nissan-toyo
Toyota, Nissan add 6.5 million cars to air bag recall
Toyota and Nissan launched massive global expansions Wednesday of their
recalls of potentially deadly vehicle air bags made by Japan's Takata.
The twin automakers' actions add more than 6.5 million vehicles to the
recalls that already encompassed millions of vehicles from multiple
automakers in the U.S. -- and around the world.
Toyota'... 阅读全帖
X***9
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请有以下车型的用户尽快联系当地本田车行免费更换新的配件
Passenger Front Airbag Inflator Recall Expansion
Honda will expand the number of vehicles affected by the existing November
2014 passenger airbag inflator recall (NHTSA No. 14V-700) in the United
States to include approximately 350,000 Civic vehicles from the 2005 model
year and Accord vehicles from the 2006-2007 model years. While some 2005
Civic models were previously included, no Accord vehicles from the listed
model years were included in the previous action. Hond... 阅读全帖
f***t
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原文在此
Honda Admits Underreporting Serious U.S. Accidents Since 2003
Honda Motor Co. failed to notify U.S. safety regulators of 1,729 claims of
injuries and deaths related to accidents in its vehicles since 2003, the
automaker acknowledged on Monday. Honda said in a statement that its count
of underreported claims came from a third-party audit. Honda cited "various
errors related to data entry" and also said it used an "overly narrow
interpretation" of its legal reporting requirements. The company... 阅读全帖
X***9
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来自主题: Automobile版 - DID YOU KNOW?-本田HONDA知识系列(7)
Did you know?
你知道吗?
与其它车厂只给销售做广告的不同,本田公司是美国第一个给recall做大型广告推广活
动的车厂
Honda Motor Co., the carmaker at the center of an airbag safety crisis, is
spending millions of dollars on its first U.S. advertising campaign linked
to a recall.
本田公司-汽车制造商正值高田气囊安全危机过程中,花费数百万美元在美国开展了第
一个关于回召方面的广告宣传企划。
The company will urge owners to immediately replace potentially lethal
airbags made by Takata Corp. in Honda cars through advertisements on March
16. The notices will be placed in more than 120 U.S. newspapers and
... 阅读全帖
X***9
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来自主题: Automobile版 - DID YOU KNOW?-本田HONDA知识系列(7)
Did you know?
你知道吗?
与其它车厂只给销售做广告的不同,本田公司是美国第一个给recall做大型广告推广活
动的车厂
Honda Motor Co., the carmaker at the center of an airbag safety crisis, is
spending millions of dollars on its first U.S. advertising campaign linked
to a recall.
本田公司-汽车制造商正值高田气囊安全危机过程中,花费数百万美元在美国开展了第
一个关于回召方面的广告宣传企划。
The company will urge owners to immediately replace potentially lethal
airbags made by Takata Corp. in Honda cars through advertisements on March
16. The notices will be placed in more than 120 U.S. newspapers and
... 阅读全帖
D***0
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简单的描述一下,就是说,一旦出事故,气囊爆开的时候会带着一片takata制造的独门
暗器直奔梗嗓咽喉而去。切开气管或者颈动脉可不是开玩笑哦。
To date, these vehicles are included in the expanded Takata airbag recalls:
Passenger Airbag Recalls (Expanded to Nationwide)
2001-2006 Honda Civic
2003-2007 Honda Accord
2003-2007 Toyota Corolla
2003-2007 Toyota Matrix
2003-2007 Pontiac Vibe
Driver-Side Airbag Recalls
2003-2006 Acura MDX
2002-2003 Acura TL
2003 Acura CL
2004-2006 BMW 325Ci
2004-2006 BMW 325i
2004-2005 BMW 325Xi
2004-2006 BMW 330Ci
2004-2006 BMW 330i
2004-200... 阅读全帖
A***n
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http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MjM5NzA5MDcwMA==&mid=403377568&
此案之所以在美引发轩然大波,因为涉事车采用的Takata(日本高田)安全气囊在美国
现已导致10人身亡,超过100人受伤。而其中,在这11个人当中,有9个人开的是Honda
(本田)的车。
Takata安全气囊在美国已造成10人死亡,超过100人受伤,涉及14家汽车生产商,其主
要供货对象是Honda(本田)汽车公司。
当地时间3月31日下午4:30,受害者驾驶一辆留学生四大神车之一的2002年Honda Civic
行驶在洲际公路上,当她行驶至FM762和Gonyo Road丁字路口时,车头撞上了前面一辆
车的尾部。发生追尾事故后,车内驾驶座的安全气囊即刻弹出,锋利的金属碎片划破了
她的喉咙,导致血流不止,她在路人的救助无效后身亡。她当时的车速并不高,事故本
身不至于直接导致她的死亡。
Honda汽车公司是Takata安全气囊最大的客户,是所有汽车厂商中受气囊事件影响最严
重的一家,事故发生频率最高的品牌也是Honda。从2011年开始,Honda对美国2千... 阅读全帖
W***n
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来自主题: Automobile版 - Toyota recalls another 600,000 cars
Toyota recalls another 600,000 cars to replace defective Takata air bags
Toyota is recalling 601,000 more vehicles in the U.S. to replace defective
and potentially deadly Takata air bag inflators.
The company says the recall covers the Toyota Corolla and Matrix, Scion xB,
Lexus IS250 and 350, and the Lexus IS-F from 2009, 2010 and 2013. Also
covered are the 2010 and 2013 Toyota 4-Runner, Lexus IS250C and 350C and
Lexus GX460, as well as the 2009 and 2010 Toyota Yaris and Lexus ES350, and
the 201... 阅读全帖
Y****a
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你只看中文呀。 英文版说了,同一家厂商的airbag,ford和奔驰都在用,别人就是不
告诉你。哈哈。
Tokyo-based Takata said it supplies airbags and seatbelts to major
automakers including Daimler AG and Ford Motor Co as well as the Japanese
brands. Some non-Japanese automakers were also supplied with the faulty
airbags, Takata spokesman Toyohiro Hishikawa said. He declined to name those
automakers.
p*****c
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The front passenger air bags all were made by the same parts supplier, Japan
's Takata Corp. They have faulty inflator mechanisms that don't route gas
into the air bags. Instead, the high-pressure gas can launch plastic and
metal parts from the air bags into the cars' passenger areas. Takata says no
one has been hurt, but there have been six incidents of the air bags
deploying improperly on roadways.
The recall, announced Thursday in Japan, is so large because many automakers
use common parts on... 阅读全帖
A*********o
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凤凰汽车讯 日前,据外媒报道,丰田汽车公司今日下午宣布,将在全世界召回226万辆
汽车。召回的主要原因是因为助手席的保护气囊出现质量问题。丰田汽车公司称,召回
车型包括卡罗拉在内,共20款之多。其中日本国内市场为64万8081辆,海外市场为162
万辆。凤凰汽车随后独家连线丰田中国获悉,此次召回不涉及中国市场。
据悉,丰田汽车公司11日向日本国土交通省提交报告,因安全气囊存在破损隐患,在日
本召回“卡罗拉”、“NOAH”等20个车型。
2014款 丰田卡罗拉 1.8L PREMIUM 至高版
存在隐患的安全气囊由东京的TAKATA公司制造。据国交省称,由于气体发生剂的充填方
法有误,副驾驶席安全气囊的压力气体容器会破损飞散或起火。
据了解,丰田、本田、日产和宝马等汽车生产商2013年总共召回360万辆汽车,因安全
气囊存在隐患。据悉,安全气囊是由日本高田株式会社(Takata Corp) 生产。(文/凤
凰汽车产业部 苏瑞琦)
T*U
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 本田瞒报造假,被NHTSA罚70M
http://www.centralohio.com/usatoday/article/21445701
Federal auto safety regulators said Thursday that they are assessing a total
of $70 million in fines against Honda for violating federal safety
reporting requirements.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says the two $35 million
fines also come with Honda's agreement to increase NHTSA oversight and
enhance its third-party audits to make sure its reporting is current in the
future.
The two fines were set at the maximum amount tha... 阅读全帖
X***9
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 开本田的同学注意了
这年头,要想做事还真不容易啊
已经确定是高田公司隐瞒不报,本田跟着背黑锅不说,公司负责人下台道歉,全面召回
所有车型更换气囊,在nhtsa唯一一个也把副驾气囊列出来的公司
A Message to Our Customers About Takata Airbags
10/28/2014
Revised:
02/11/2015
Honda is committed to addressing the needs and concerns of
our customers and making clear that we
stand behind the safety and quality of our products.
We want to reassure our customers that Honda has
an ongoing
customer service procedure that addresses each customer’s needs and
concerns
.
For customers concerned about the issue of Ta... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 本田托赶紧来解释
等等。楼主转的说的那位女司机的事情,不是这个Solis四世吧!
美国新闻如下
http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/honda-civic-kylan-langli
Honda says the Civic was included in a June 2014 "safety improvement
campaign" to replace the driver-side front airbag inflator. The automaker
says registration records show the Civic was sold to Langlinais in October
2014, but the car hadn't been repaired from the June "safety improvement
campaign."
Honda says it mailed a notification to the new owner (Langlinais) on April 2
, 2015. The lawsui... 阅读全帖
X***9
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大哥,您的逻辑好可怕啊
首先可能有问题不等于绝对有问题
"Are the airbags in my car definitely defective?
No. Since 2002 only a very small number of some 30 million cars have been
involved in these incidents. Between November, 2014 and May, 2015, Takata
reported to NHTSA that the company had conducted more than 30,000 ballistic
tests on airbag inflators returned pursuant to the recalls. In those tests,
265 ruptured. That is an unacceptably high number, and, at 0.8 percent, a
far higher frequency than what has been seen so ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 本田--发展创新科技 迎接未来挑战
能不能先把气囊爆炸问题解决?
Honda Recalls 4.5 Million More Vehicles Over Takata Airbags
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/10/business/honda-recalls-millio
The Japanese supplier Takata admitted this year that faults in its airbag
inflaters could cause them to explode violently when they deploy,
endangering a vehicle’s occupants. The defect has been blamed for eight
deaths and more than 100 injuries worldwide.
r*******t
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"采购成本缩减"是日本车厂的一贯做法
搞到日本气囊生产厂商Takata 只能出厂低价劣质产品,祸害全球几百万辆汽车:
BMW: 627,615 vehicles
Chrysler: 371,309 vehicles
Ford: 58,669 vehicles
*Honda: 5,051,364 vehicles
Mazda: 64,872 vehicles
Mitsubishi: 11,985 vehicles
*Nissan: 694,626 vehicles
Subaru: 17,516 vehicles
*Toyota: 877,000 vehicles
信息来源:http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/all-takata-airbag-recall-vehicles-one-handy-list
r*******t
发帖数: 8550
49
"采购成本缩减"是日本车厂的一贯做法
搞到日本气囊生产厂商Takata 只能出厂低价劣质产品,祸害全球几百万辆汽车:
BMW: 627,615 vehicles
Chrysler: 371,309 vehicles
Ford: 58,669 vehicles
*Honda: 5,051,364 vehicles
Mazda: 64,872 vehicles
Mitsubishi: 11,985 vehicles
*Nissan: 694,626 vehicles
Subaru: 17,516 vehicles
*Toyota: 877,000 vehicles
信息来源:http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/all-takata-airbag-recall-vehicles-one-handy-list
b*******l
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发信人: laoselang (LAOSELANG(好吧,别打了,我就是兔子)), 信区: Automobile
标 题: Re: 十命丧高田,九人开本田 (Honda) !
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Apr 9 13:10:39 2016, 美东)
丰田用量第二,没死人,是因为很多车严重车祸气囊都不开的
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这是老色狼在原贴第13楼的回贴。
原贴出自:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Automobile/35351301.html
发信人: AAman (愤怒的生物博士后), 信区: Automobile
标 题: 十命丧高田,九人开本田 (Honda) !
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Apr 9 09:31:03 2016, 美东)
http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MjM5NzA5MDcwMA==&mid=403377568&
此案之所以在美引发轩然大波,因为涉... 阅读全帖
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