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p**********1
发帖数: 1458
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nice deal.
http://www.texasholdem-king.com/what-do-players-receive-in-a-fu
poker-sponsorship-deal-155/
One of the questions that we hear the most often is: what do "red" pros
receive in terms of compensation on Full Tilt Poker?
First off, the level of compensation depends on whether a player is a member
of "Team Full Tilt", a "Full Tilt Pro" or a "friend" of Full Tilt.
I'm not 100% sure what a "friend" of Full Tilt receives - I think that this
varies greatly depending on the player. For instance... 阅读全帖
v****e
发帖数: 19471
2
来自主题: LosAngeles版 - Full Tilt Poker A Ponzi Scheme
MEDIA & MARKETINGSEPTEMBER 20, 2011, 5:15 P.M. ET.U.S. Alleges Full Tilt Pok
er Was Ponzi Scheme .Article Video Comments (244) more in Media & Marketing
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By ALEXANDRA BERZON
The U.S. Justice Department on Tuesday accused poker celebrities Howard Lede
rer and Christopher Ferguson among other executives of a major poker website
of defrauding poker players out of more than $300 million.
The U.S. Justice Department on Tuesday accused poker celebrities How... 阅读全帖
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
3
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-01/rajat-gupta-jc-flowers
Full Tilt Units, Executives Win Civil RICO Suit Dismissal
Units of Full Tilt Poker and 10 executives won dismissal of civil claims
filed under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.
The lawsuit was filed in June by Full Tilt poker players seeking to recoup,
as a group, about $150 million they claim they lost when the Ireland-based
Internet poker site and others like it were shut by U.S. Attorney Preet
Bharar... 阅读全帖
b*****t
发帖数: 52
4
披个马甲上来分享一下我的想法和经验
我本人在牌桌上经验很少,属于大鱼类型。看风暴的牌历史每每有惊艳的感觉。版主绝
对是我偶像。
但是我在期货市场还是很有经验的,干了10年,至少也做了30万手交易。六位数一天不
是奇迹,30秒内也输过宝马6。一起合作或者在我手下干的交易员先后有10个以上了。
我觉得炒期货和打牌的决策过程,思考方式,甚至bankroll如何管理基本上是相同的。
看了你的文章觉得你很不容易,所以想把一点经验和你分享。
bankroll管理绝对是能否生存的关键。如何对待输赢是能否成功的关键。
先说bankroll
1 必须有一个downside limit.这个数字就是你一天的底线。大小应该是你最好的一天
的一半或者更小点点。或者是你平均盈利的2到3倍。
2一旦输到DL,神仙在你也要当日洗手不干以待来日。
3 一旦连着两天输到DL或者三天输钱,下一天降一挡不求赢大钱只求赢小钱。
4一天的目标就是不要输DL的一半。
5 帐号至少要有10个DL。
再说对待输赢
和你形容的相反,我是这样对待一天的。
1)前5个交易非常重要,务必求胜,要谨慎小心找胜率最好的交易。务必让一天赢钱开
始... 阅读全帖
d*****0
发帖数: 1500
5
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 昨晚哥遇到了久违的老友 tilt

7 buy in downswing是很正常的,但是被3bet了几次开始tilt,尤其是有position的情
况下,就很不应该了。从lz以前的帖子看,lz的技术应该是没有问题的,但是很可能
tournament和6max的dynamic不一样吧
其实感觉lz在“第四把我用ato 4bet overshove反推他100bb”的时候就tilt了。ATo面
对wide 3b range且有position的时候绝对是应该call的。其次4b bluff fold to 5b也
还可以。4b all-in是很大的一个leak。
感觉我认识的很多人仅仅把tilt看作是emotion的问题而不是技术的问题,这是不对的
。举个例子来说,如果我现在去打NL20,不管出现什么情况我都不太可能tilt,因为对
手的move基本都在意料之中。但是上周末打NL200打了没几手牌,在没有任何bad beat
的情况下,就觉得情绪有点失控,因为明显感觉对手在利用position exploit我,而我
没有很好的应对的办法。这种情况下一般我就换桌或者不打了。
即使桌上的reg skill edge不是很大,... 阅读全帖
W********m
发帖数: 7793
6
我真觉得打牌的tilt 是无解的, 每个人都有, 程度大小而已。 tilt 的危害谁都知
道,多说无用, 最后还是一个self control 和discipline的问题。 我自认这方面还
比较成功, 还是有那么两三次out if control, 不过打了那么多牌还是算少的吧。
这种和emotional control 有关的, 最好的办法还是不要在发生的时候自己
rationalize 来做决定, 往往那时已经太晚了, 而是是应该设个objective 的rule,
比如输四个buy in 就quit, 或打四个小时就quit 之类, 到时候不要多想, 执行就行
。 其实扑克里的tilt 和就是体现其赌博赌博本质的地方,控制不好, 难免沦落为赌
徒。
看了看Qing 兄 的赢率图, 发现每次大一点的down swing, 你的红线就往上走,我猜
可能就是tilt 的原因吧?输了几个pot, 就开始tilt, spew, overly aggressive,红
线自然就往上走了, 有的人赢钱也可以有向上走的红线,但这明显不是你的comfort
zone, 所以你的绿线就开始向下更... 阅读全帖
p******a
发帖数: 975
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 昨晚哥遇到了久违的老友 tilt
7 buy in downswing是很正常的,但是被3bet了几次开始tilt,尤其是有position的情
况下,就很不应该了。从lz以前的帖子看,lz的技术应该是没有问题的,但是很可能
tournament和6max的dynamic不一样吧
其实感觉lz在“第四把我用ato 4bet overshove反推他100bb”的时候就tilt了。ATo面
对wide 3b range且有position的时候绝对是应该call的。其次4b bluff fold to 5b也
还可以。4b all-in是很大的一个leak。
感觉我认识的很多人仅仅把tilt看作是emotion的问题而不是技术的问题,这是不对的
。举个例子来说,如果我现在去打NL20,不管出现什么情况我都不太可能tilt,因为对
手的move基本都在意料之中。但是上周末打NL200打了没几手牌,在没有任何bad beat
的情况下,就觉得情绪有点失控,因为明显感觉对手在利用position exploit我,而我
没有很好的应对的办法。这种情况下一般我就换桌或者不打了。
即使桌上的reg skill edge不是很大,a... 阅读全帖
d******i
发帖数: 7160
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发现大部分只能调整tilt tension,
还有那个tilt lock好像只管能否tilt,却不能把椅背tilt的角度lock住。
所以想找个能能把tilt固定在给定角度的椅子。
知道的话请推荐个。
谢谢!
H**********k
发帖数: 224
9
准备给ld升级到grip和后坐都比较小的center fire。现有的candidate是
1) berreta px4 9x19。(cougar因为不能换小号grip backstrap,排除)
2) walther pk380, browning locked-breech, tilt barrel设计的380 auto.
3) surplus的makarov-clone。blowback设计。
4) bersa等ppk-clones, blowback的380 auto.
且不说可靠性、价格、重量和子弹的供给,但就后坐来讲,这几种设计的后坐怎么排?
是不是从大到小
基本是
blowback 9x18
> blowback 9x17 (根据靶场租walther ppk的感觉)
> 全钢tilt 9x19 (eg, cz)
> 半钢tilt 9x19 (eg, sig)
> 塑料tilt 9x19 (eg, glock, hk, fnp)
> rotate 9x19
> tilt 9x17

本地没有靶场租9x18,无从考察它是不是比9x17后坐更大……
p****r
发帖数: 9164
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - on tilt 太可怕了!
I do not think I have ever tilted this much in live game. sometime play
somewhat loose , make lots of loose calls and bluff too much when losing and
tilting, but nothing like calling 300$ raise with Q high and have too much
ego with one person etc. "

generally , playing online is much easily tilted. Playing live is a lot
easier to control temper and tilt.

much!
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
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hehe, you didn't read my guide to full tilt?
this is "cash advance fee" charged by your credit card company, not full
tilt. normally this is a flat amount, no matter you take $50 or $500 out
from your card.
AND, they charge DAILY interest on the amount ($50 in your case). normally
it's pretty high, like 20%+APY.
if you haven't done so, pay all your credit card balance now to avoid more
charges.
AGAIN, it's very unwise to use a credit card to deposit small amount into
full tilt, your case is a go
w********t
发帖数: 18315
12
是这个吗?是不是在注册ID的时候,红利code处填上RAKEBACKPROS就可以啦?
我现在都不敢deposit了
New players can sign up for rakeback immediately from our website. Create
your new Full Tilt Poker account by following the sign up instructions at http://www.rakebackpros.com/signup/ by using our Full Tilt Poker link or Referral Code RAKEBACKPROS and then create a rakebackpros account using your Full Tilt player username.
T*********k
发帖数: 1621
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - I miss full tilt poker
The last couple days it was a storm in my area.
I went out with Full Tilt unmbralla. Usually I have those cheap unmbralla
made from country factory in China which can only be used once and then
broken. The quality of Full Tilt unmbralla was really good and I use them
during big storm!
Downside is : there are two big logos saying "Full Tilt Poker" on top of the
umbralla, so everyone knows I am a big gambler. LOL.
w*******y
发帖数: 60932
w*******y
发帖数: 60932
15
3-Way Adjustable Tilting DUAL Desk Mount Bracket for LCD LED (Max 33Lbs, 13~
23inch) - Black:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10
Dual Side by Side Monitor Desk Mount with adjustable swing arms and desk
edge clamp. Allows you to set your display at the optimal height, tilt and
angleto reduce eye and neck strain while virtually eliminating the footprint
taken by them on your desktop. Fully articulating arms with ball/socket
joint behind the display mounting plate to pr... 阅读全帖
h*****g
发帖数: 596
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【 以下文字转载自 ebiz 讨论区 】
发信人: hammerg (锤子), 信区: ebiz
标 题: 5-Qt KitchenAid Artisan Series Tilt Head $160
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Oct 27 09:19:22 2012, 美东)
Reload this Page 5-Qt KitchenAid Artisan Series Tilt Head Stand Mixer (
Refurbished, White) $142
就剩pro的了, 229-30%off
174 and change to Northern NY, the only color and style that were left was
KitchenAid® Refurbished KitchenAid® Professional 5™ Plus
Series Bowl Lift Stand Mixer
SKU:RKV25G0XER besides the satin copper and the nickel plat... 阅读全帖
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 问一个full tilt的问题
did you use a credit card to deposit?
maybe your credit card company charges this transaction as "cash advance" (
full tilt doesn't charge any extra fees). if so, try to pay credit card
balance ASAP, otherwise they'll charge you interest. for the 1st time, you
can argue with full tilt, normally they'll refund you that fee .
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - Iron Man medals and Full Tilt Points (ZT)
You can use Iron Man medals to buy more Full Tilt Points in the Iron Man
store. If you then proceed to spend those poins in the Full Tilt store or
poker room, it will incur the regular FTP deduction of $0.005 per used point
against your Gross Rake in the FullTilt rakeback calculations.
Example:
Your Gross Rake is $300
You spend 150 Iron Man medals to buy 5000 FTPs, and then spend the points,
which amounts to a $25 deduction to your rake ($0.005*5000)
Your rakeback is ($300 - $25) * 27% = $74.25
g**s
发帖数: 1114
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - Reimbursement from Full Tilt Poker
Got following email from FTP...In Rush? or somewhere else?
Dear pdlx,
The Full Tilt Poker Security department has recently concluded an extensive
investigation and we have determined that some of your opponents were in
violation of our site terms.
We have permanently closed all of the offending accounts. In cases of proven
cheating, 100% of the confiscated funds are returned to the players who
were victimized. The reimbursement calculation is based on the number of
tournaments or hands played ag... 阅读全帖
W********m
发帖数: 7793
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 今天这把牌后有点tilt..
flop 觉得他没A.. 所以float 一下想take away turn.. turn 知道他没花. 所以bluff.. turn 他call 后river确定他没花, 可能turn 有flush draw + top pair or set redraw for boat or doesn't believe me have flush, 所以shove river to rep a flush,, 丫还是call 了.. 晕.. 如果Ah 不在board 上, 可能我rep flush更好些..
被这种minibet turn 的鱼clear a stack 真是很tilting..
=================================
Full Tilt Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
BTN: $99.00
SB: $100.50
BB: $103.70
UTG: $75.50
UTG+1: $80.50
UTG+2: $208.15
MP1: $42.20
Hero (MP2): $233.45
C... 阅读全帖
l*****g
发帖数: 1128
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - on tilt 太可怕了!
昨晚和桌上一美国女人较上劲了,每次我一BET她就RAISE我200多,最后她都HIT到了。
PRE-FLOP 我RAISE多少她都CALL,每次我都输给她,气得我严重ON TILT。后来几乎完
全不在玩牌,就在斗气,什么破牌都CALL,拿着Q HIGH在FLOP上竟然CALL的300多的
RAISE,都不知道自己是疯了还是脑子短路了,最后我在2-3NL上输了1300,这还没完
,又跑回去拿了800跑3-5NL上玩,还是继续乱玩,最后FLOP 了TOP SET FLOP上ALL IN
被别人RIVER了STRAIGHT,结果又输了800,回来后自己才意识到我犯了多么可怕的错
误,拿着自己辛辛苦苦积累的BR这样挥霍,当时都想戒掉POKER了。想着我如果不能战
胜自己这个敌人,再好的技术也没用,还不如就此收手。不过,想是这么想,玩还得玩
。昨晚输了这么多唯一学到点有用的东西就是我发现3-5NL上真的好多FISH,很多人玩
得很烂,我虽然输了800,但通过昨晚的SESSION我发现只要我正常发挥我有很大机可以
BEAT这个LEVEL的PLAYER。虽然这三个月GRIND到的BR也足够玩3-5N... 阅读全帖
l*****g
发帖数: 1128
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - on tilt 太可怕了!
可能真的和玩太多burned out有关系。我们这个赌场有很多职业玩家。我和这些low
limit的grinder们都很熟,有个小伙就和我说他现在就给他每周设个目标,只要一达到
就不玩了,我就问他如果一个SESSION就把一周的目标完成了咋办,他说那他就不玩了
,随便去干点别的,他说他发现他玩太多了就会burned out然后on tilt,当时不理解
,现在知道为什么了。不过我以前确实看过他On tilt,简直太可怕了,当晚他输了好
多,我们同一个桌上,我那时还和他不是很熟,但我还是忍不住提醒他quit 这个
session,明天再来。
q****8
发帖数: 3281
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昨晚通宵,输了6K。纯粹TILT SPEW MONEY了2K,因为输钱而不在自己A GAME输了1-2K
,还有2-3K逃不掉。有几点希望大家发表些看法:
1. 输钱了肯定没赢钱的时候打的好,输大了就不在A GAME上了,这应该对于所有人都
这样吧,或许只是程度的差别?
2. 对有些人或许是你认为的FISH,在一个SESSION里你怎么打怎么输,不断充钱不断输
,然后越来越TILT,不断送钱。风暴兄你打了100万手牌了,应该碰到过吧,你能很及
时的退出吗?尽管你认为他是FISH,但今天他就是什么牌都HIT到。
3. 我赢钱了就打的比较小心,打法尽量降低VARIANCE。输大了就尽量建大POT,打法
VARIANCE越大越好。就算EV一样(其实应该不一样,输大了判断力会下降很多),
VARIANCE的区别会让你赢小钱的SESSION次数很多,输大钱的SESSION次数很少,但一次
就抵上好多次赢钱的SESSION.
q****8
发帖数: 3281
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4. 这种情况让我无比TILT:自己认为打的很好,超具迷惑性,但正好对手歪打正着或
者正好有MONSTER牌。如果AA对KK输2个BUY-IN都远比不上上面的TILT。
d*****0
发帖数: 1500
25
"My problem is the first 3-4 hours usually fine. I could get doubled or
almost doubled in 75% of times."
从以前的帖子知道,老虎大哥也是老poker,牌风强悍,经验老到。虽然哥对上面的数
据有点质疑(尤其是当sample量大到一定程度),但是哥相信,在abc的情况下,新上
桌,偏aggressive的打法是+EV。
原因是,在哥的认知范围内,正常情况下,对上新上桌的玩家,weaktight(低级别稳
定小赢玩家)和reg基本上都需要一个缓冲期去了解他的style。为了确保在没搞清楚状
况前不输大钱,他们基本上都会用普通的abc甚至偏weak的打法。这种情况下,往往出
现flat你的flop raise,甚至跟上一条街,一旦没有cheap showdown,往往在后两条街
放弃。这其实是很大的一块profit,这些人(或者说绝大多数人包括哥)往往在初期不
敢用非nuts来跟你commit。而从数学角度来讲,撞上对手nuts的可能性也很小。
但是,一旦这个新人的套路被识别出来(可能是经过... 阅读全帖
T*********k
发帖数: 1621
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 对上有tilting image的对手的注意事项
The reason is simple. Most likely you are not playing heads up with ppl on
tilt.
There are other ppl playing at the same table as well. They all see what
tilter is doing and believe me, they will notice what you are doing as well
if they are semi-competent players.
If you are so out of line pushing TPMK or even shitty kicker regularly, be
careful before you catch the tilting guy, your money could end up in other
ppl pocket. When you put your whole stack in the pot with your K 9, and try
to isola... 阅读全帖
p********e
发帖数: 16048
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 网上看的tilt照片里最有意思的是
把不同的距离的东西通过tilt到同一个焦平面(通常大家做的是把同一个焦平面的东西
tilt成不同)
a***a
发帖数: 40617
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 网上看的tilt照片里最有意思的是
我吐血了,拍风光里tilt不一直是不同焦平面tilt到一个上?
c********l
发帖数: 8138
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 版上有人玩Tilt & Shift镜头吗?
版上有人玩Tilt & Shift镜头吗?
那种玩具模型的效果是不是只有tilt & shift能做得出来?
a********e
发帖数: 136
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - ball head on pan and tilt tripod
我现有的Pan tilt tripod调整很麻烦,我想买一个ball head,可是又不想重新买一个
tripod,请问大家ball head能够装在pan tilt tripod上吗?还是有其他的办法?
http://www.amazon.com/Tripod-Monopod-Metal-Release-Fancier/dp/B
http://www.amazon.com/SUNPAK-SPK620080-Sunpak-620-080-Tripod/dp
y*b
发帖数: 3190
w*******y
发帖数: 60932
w*******y
发帖数: 60932
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2 Way Adjustable Tilting Desk Mount Bracket for LCD LED (Max 33Lbs, 10~
25inch) - Black:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10
Edge clamp, desktop mount for Flat Panel Displays. This high quality, steel
mount allows you to conveniently attach your monitor to the edge of your
desk, maximizing your desktop work space. Variable height adjustment brings
your display to the perfect viewing height, preventing undue neck strain.
192mm (about 5 1/2") extention arm brings the sc... 阅读全帖
w*******y
发帖数: 60932
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I posted a similar deal several months back and people seemed to like it
until they stocked out, but I just got an email saying they're running a new
deal that is the same basic thing.
Deal:
Sewell LCD/Plasma HDTV wall mount bracket with tilt and bubble level for 32"
-60" tvs for $14.95 through FBA on amazon
It has 30 degrees of tilt (15 up and 15 down).
Item is fulfilled by amazon so shipping is free with prime or $25 total
amazon purchase:
Link:
http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Screen-Bracket-Inte... 阅读全帖
w*******y
发帖数: 60932
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Loctek 23" 46" Tilt Low Profile Wall Mount Bracket for LED LCD Plasma TV,
Max. (202-075-001)
Link:
http://www.meritline.com/loctek-23-46-inch-tilt-low-profile-wal
Regular Price: $22.99
Final Price: $12.99
+ Free Shipping
Coupon Code: MLCKWNDNL1
w*******y
发帖数: 60932
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Adjustable Tilting/Swiveling Wall Mount Bracket for LCD LED Plasma Corner
Friendly (Max 110Lbs, 32~50inch) - BLACK:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10
This strong and robust TV wall bracket allows maximum flexibility for
installing and viewing your TV. Ideal for corners. It allows you to tilt,
twist, and swivel your TV into nearly any position you desire. Also has
adjustment for lateral positioning. Backplate measures 45cm wide giving
numerous fixing points, ideal fo... 阅读全帖
f*****g
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - 问一个full tilt的问题
did you use a credit card to deposit?
maybe your credit card company charges this transaction as "cash advance" (
full tilt doesn't charge any extra fees). if so, try to pay credit card
balance ASAP, otherwise they'll charge you interest. for the 1st time, you
can argue with full tilt, normally they'll refund you that fee .
l****z
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I see the G8 has a brilliant solution to the problems of the eurozone.
President Obama says it’s time for “growth and jobs”. Jolly good. That’s
the stuff. Let me show you how to create employment – the Brussels way.
Come with me through the streets of Athens, not far from Syntagma Square,
and your mind will reel with the horrified realisation that history is not a
one-way ratchet, that human progress is not guaranteed, and that a proud
country can be reduced – by years of torture and bullying – ... 阅读全帖
h*****g
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Reload this Page 5-Qt KitchenAid Artisan Series Tilt Head Stand Mixer (
Refurbished, White) $142
就剩pro的了, 229-30%off
174 and change to Northern NY, the only color and style that were left was
KitchenAid® Refurbished KitchenAid® Professional 5™ Plus
Series Bowl Lift Stand Mixer
SKU:RKV25G0XER besides the satin copper and the nickel plated. (559+)
o******w
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$170 bill pay , 1-2 day to MO
KitchenAid Classic Plus Series 4.5 Qt. Tilt-Head Stand Mixer - Silver
p**i
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我家有扇窗户的右tilt latch断了, 型号是ashland hardware的sightline sc-1, 有人
知道哪有卖吗
r*******3
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http://drclaudiamiller.com/about-tilt/
你们身边有这样的情况吗? 求有经验的人给分析一下。
R******d
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来自主题: NextGeneration版 - tilted 子宫怎么提高受孕的几率?
隐约记得ob以前说过我的子宫tilted, 刚刚意识到这是不是大家说的子宫后置
大家说要后入式,但是那之后如何趴着才能增加受孕几率呢?
请有经验的妈妈准妈妈帮帮忙!谢谢!
v****e
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来自主题: LosAngeles版 - Full Tilt Poker A Ponzi Scheme
I was in Maui and this bartender was complaining to me how his "thousands of
dollars" was "frozen at Full Tilt Poker" LOL
f*****g
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - sigh, full tilt
hehe, yes, this one is so fake.
1) flop A a middle set, so he wants to get some, with caution for possible
straight/flush draws. B got top pair+open ended, so unless A pushes huge(
which is not very likely), B got reason to stay too...
2) turn A got a boat, now he can sit back and hang around (actually he
shoves cause he's pretty short stacked), hoping B catches his draws... for B
, even better, now he even picks up a straight flush draw...
3) damn shit...as full tilt plans.
f*****g
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - full tilt私人比赛还没有matrix的
上次yuanjunjun问来着,full tilt答复说没有。
j**y
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 问一个full tilt的问题
【 以下文字转载自 Gamble 讨论区 】
发信人: Maradona10 (上帝之手 恶魔之脚), 信区: Gamble
标 题: 问一个full tilt的问题
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jan 20 09:13:13 2009)
我存了600,然后把钱取出来打bonus。在存钱的同时又被扣了一笔额外的费用18刀。请
问这是税,手续费或者什么别的费用?我发信过去问了几次没人回。
M********0
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 问一个full tilt的问题
不是,我用的debit card,是checking acc。信用卡是算cash adv,而且很多信用卡公司都会拒付
如果是银行的手续费就不会写这十几块是到full tilt那个帐号的了
P*********r
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one question here, I deposited $50 to my account via Credit card, then my cc
has "CASH FEE FINANCE CHARGE $20.00 ". is it related to full tilt?
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