p******g
发帖数: 347 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Apple 讨论区 】
发信人: paperdog (I've Never Been To Me), 信区: Apple
标 题: osx 就是比 windoze 强
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Sep 30 12:45:37 2011, 美东)
别的不说，就说这个expose就比windoze强太多. m$ 搞了个什么 aero? 烂得简直一批,
对于快速找窗口完全没有任何作用只是让窗口管理更乱了. expose effect of compize
under linux is copying osx expose, it's ok but still not as good.
plus with osx you get unix and terminal, what else do you need.
就是这两点windoze就怎么也赶不上了. at least for me, after i started using
osx 5 years ago, i never turned back to windoze any more. i only... 阅读全帖 |
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p******g
发帖数: 347 | 2 别的不说，就说这个expose就比windoze强太多. m$ 搞了个什么 aero? 烂得简直一批,
对于快速找窗口完全没有任何作用只是让窗口管理更乱了. expose effect of compize
under linux is copying osx expose, it's ok but still not as good.
plus with osx you get unix and terminal, what else do you need.
就是这两点windoze就怎么也赶不上了. at least for me, after i started using
osx 5 years ago, i never turned back to windoze any more. i only use linux
and osx.
别的比如苹果的字体, 对pdf的无缝支持, 还有各种软件的易用性美工和快捷键,你那
windoze就是从win7升版本升回到win2008也是赶不上了.
还有我怎么就是不明白为什么老有一帮人要把屏幕最大化，现在的屏幕都是带鱼宽屏，
再加上傻x... 阅读全帖 |
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 3 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
paperdog (I've Never Been To Me) 于 (Fri Sep 30 12:45:37 2011, 美东) 提到:
别的不说，就说这个expose就比windoze强太多. m$ 搞了个什么 aero? 烂得简直一批,
对于快速找窗口完全没有任何作用只是让窗口管理更乱了. expose effect of compize
under linux is copying osx expose, it's ok but still not as good.
plus with osx you get unix and terminal, what else do you need.
就是这两点windoze就怎么也赶不上了. at least for me, after i started using
osx 5 years ago, i never turned back to windoze any more. i only use linux
and osx.
别的比如苹果... 阅读全帖 |
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p******g
发帖数: 347 | 4 lol, i only buy mac products from win users who want to try things that's
better and more powerful but find themselves brain-damaged by long term over
doze of windoze usage and can't accept anything new. so i always get good
deals.
and i admit most mac products are overpriced. but it seems to be getting a
bit better now. |
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b******y
发帖数: 9224 | 5 谁说的？Linux很多钱哪。就拿系统管理员来说，linux admin的薪水可拿到很高很高。
windoze的admin, 就很水了。
有看客问了，为何linux的高呀？答曰: there is no cheaper/faster/better all
together type of thing. windoze is cheaper, faster, but, not better. Linux
is faster, better, but, NOT cheap.
So, like anything else, there is a balance there for any software. If you
want something quick and dirty, then, you suffer from long term gain such as
scalability, performance etc. |
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J********a
发帖数: 5208 | 6 fairly speaking Win7 is quite stable
but Windoze took too much legacy shit from dos/windows 3.x/windows 9x/me
backward compatibility is a major source of bugs/holes
osx said goodbye to os 9, which is equally shitty comp to windoze
after 10 years, it may be time for osx to dump legacy supports, or start
from scratch base on iOS. |
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p******g
发帖数: 347 | 7 我的感觉怎么正相反，同样的软件苹果比配置更高的wintel运行更快。
几年前我玩never winter night,我那sony vaio加上当时的高端显卡玩起来慢的不行，
特别到了大场景, npc一多那人物动以来一抖一抖的完全不流畅没法玩。可是我的老PB
Ti，显卡也就是中下档次，内存只有2/3,cpu更是落后了半-1带(ppc4,我记得当时都
已经开始要有intel的苹果了)跑起来虽然不是绝对快，但是十分流畅，游戏完全可以玩.
我还比较了photoshop,canvas X...也明显是spec弱很多的mac快。mathmatica and
maple，wintel机器快一点毕竟cpu在那摆着呢
我想你就是比较的M$ office吧。那个是native的windoze软件，不是native的苹果上的
当然苹果要跑得慢。而且M$为什么要做得让mac跑m$ office更快，那还有谁买他的
windoze啊. |
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L***n
发帖数: 6727 | 8 because .Net is native on Windoz, Java is not, and, this is
personal, I always hate Swing's GUI... looks alien on
either linux or windoz |
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b******y
发帖数: 9224 | 9 好主意。Open source软件虽然免费，但很多时候应用到企业，并不完全理想。需要二
次开发或者是改进。
看看企业用open source的就清楚了。linux admin的工资，肯定比windoze admin工资
高多了。原因就是，open source的东西灵活，但同时也需要精通的人来调理. |
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b******y
发帖数: 9224 | 10 on Linux: vi
on windoze: textpad |
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b******y
发帖数: 9224 | 11 话说人家Apple, 市场占有率不如Android高，但手机市场70%的profit都是被他家赚走
了。其他什么Android, Windoze Phone等，都是分剩下的一点点汤。人家Apple卖个
iphone就赚不少，Android就是不太赚钱。想想这里面的道理吧。眼球多，一定就是好
事吗？ |
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b******y
发帖数: 9224 | 12 In Excel, Tools->Options->Security
File encryption settings for this workbook...
Password to open, 设置password就行了。
但我prefer用AxCrypt, 因为可以加密任何文件，而且windoze和linux都通用的。人家
拿了你的文件，也是garbage, 没法打开的。 |
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b******y
发帖数: 9224 | 13 Raspberry PI looks to me like another iteration of the computing evolution.
Just like the early days of the PC industry, where only hobbyists buy them
for projects, this could be like that as well and eventually as an
alternative to Windoze based system.
Just my 2 cents, discussion welcome. |
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 15 美工
所谓的美工，多数体现在弧线上
比如windoz的东西，总是做的方方的，棱角感很强，图标都这样
然后苹果的东西，往往都有点弧线，然人感觉有点舒服
其实就这点差别，然后对美工比较敏感的人，自然就苹果了
感觉差点，就真未必了
世上的东西，往往就差那么一点点
现在的android基本上也觉得棱角分明
iphone的东西略微圆润一点 |
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s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 16 99% Windoz users know no-shit about Unix, you must be one of them. |
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b******y
发帖数: 9224 | 17
话说，有次病毒不让装malwarebytes, 偶一赌气，上puppylinux, 把硬盘内容拷贝出来
后，硬盘给格了。重新装windoze, 完胜. |
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v*x
发帖数: 1370 | 18 从最最最早的iMac起就这风格了，要简单粗犷的只能用windoz了 |
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t******n
发帖数: 2939 | 19 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
kuu1987 (kuu1987) 于 提到:
又到了一年一度的WWDC，“吃老本”、創新枯竭的指責和抵達巔峰後不斷下跌的股價讓
蘋果CEO Tim Cook度過了最為難熬的一年，而2013年的WWDC很可能是產品最豐富的一次
。我們已經可以確認的消息有全新界麵的iOS7與融合改進後的OS X 10.9、iRadio流媒
體服務以及許久未更新的Mac Pro/MacBook產品線等。这不苹果又推出了它的杀手锏
IOS7.这ios7放出来真心让人跪了！！不信且看下面的图。
本来帅气的ios 6 到了ios 7 竟然变成了萌系粉嘟嘟的小手机，真是让人大跌眼镜，没
有乔布斯的苹果已经不能称作苹果，缅怀伟大的乔布斯时代！！
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vix (do the noodle dance) 于 (Tue Jun 11 08:43:17 2013, 美东) 提到:
从最最最早的iMac起就这风格了，要简单粗犷的只能用windoz了... 阅读全帖 |
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m*******m
发帖数: 182 | 20
Why？ Work at CSCO？
My understanding is that it is for mobile devices. For scanners, CD
drives, printers and other such non-mobile devices, it sounds
unnecessary. Bandwidth seems to be no great improvement. (We dont
want more radio waves to increase our chances of growing brain tumours
either. :))
USB is not necessarily a good thing (except that is the lexically
closer to USA :). I look at it as a more comericial sucessful story.
Look how much it depends on Windoze, and how hard to add supp |
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z*****g
发帖数: 227 | 21 国内全都用windoze，没有这个问题。
据我所知国内很多网站连firefox用户都不考虑。
上买卖提的大多在国外，老刑要考虑国际标准。 |
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b******y
发帖数: 9224 | 22 windoze有那么衰??? 我觉得作为developer开发的机器，还凑合了呀。
不过要不是单位用outlook, 偶就将两台机器全部改成了Linux了... |
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b*s
发帖数: 82482 | 23 Great Mac Vs. Windows Challenge
Apple's Version
"Ultimate Mac vs. Windows Challenge"
Sam Levin
SPA March 4, 1996
Well folks here are the results from SPA's first "Ultimate Mac vs. Windows C
hallenge".
Setup and Scenario:
One Mac and one PC. Also, both teams will open and connect brand new PC's
from the box. A series of 'real world' tests were administered to see which
systems really 'delivered' on demand.
Other Important Stuff:
Guy had a 10 year-old boy do the _entire_ setup and installation of |
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G*******n
发帖数: 6889 | 24 比如说Mac从学校带到家里，转Ethernet到modem,不用重新开机，只要在TCP/IP control
panel (or control strip)转一下setting就可以啦。多没劲呀？
Mac还记得每一个alias都跟着原文件走，不象Windoze, 文件一移到新地方，
alias就找不着它了。不能捉迷藏喽。 |
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p**h
发帖数: 99 | 25 你说道这些mac的易用性开始感觉是不错，但不实用。
就说你说的这两个例子吧，1。谁也不会整天没事换
来换去，再说一个laptop上网主要还是用modem, 就
算用户是个计算机专家，也不会经常接ethernet. windows
上设置这些也很容易(老夫是说，不会比mac更复杂)。
2. 这好象是windoze的一个缺点，但再想想，也不一定，
因为不是每一个文件(只有不到几百分之一的文件需要一个alias)。
mac的易用性是建立在“用户不需要知道”的中指上，
因此它把许多技术细节都与用户屏蔽开来(有时专家都
对此感到头痛)，有些做得都过份。这种易用性实际上
往往是以牺牲用户对机器操纵的灵活性为代价的, 换
句话说，一方面它实现了表面上的简单，易用的特点，但另
一方面它却大大增加了潜在的使用的难度(当你想更“积极”地
使用你的机器时)。同时，象老夫前面说的，想找个mac
高手比上天不难，也差不多少了，因为几乎个个都对它
了解不深，即使是天天用mac的。这不是这些人不愿深入
地了解mac,实在是mac不想让人容易地了解它--mac“被”天生
地如此。而windows则充份考虑到这一点，至 |
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G*******n
发帖数: 6889 | 26 Hah hah, obviously you are dismissing Mac users' savvyness with their
own computers.
1. That's a very important feature in today's mixed networking environment.
As the administrator of a small-office LAN, I can easily juggle the limited
number of IP addresses allocatd to my subnet without forcing my users to
reboot their machines every time we make a zone change or migrate to a
different class C network. I think you find this feature unimportant simply
because it's a hassle to do on the windoze |
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G*******n
发帖数: 6889 | 27 http://www.artnet.net/~ddellinger/chinese.html
Screenshots of the amazing Advanced Chinese Input Suite from Apple,
- Chinese Language Kit 2.0 (basic ABC, WuBi, and other input methods)
- Chinese Handwriting Kit 1.5 (input Chinese using your mouse cursor or via
a pen tablet) - no Windoze product comes close!
- Chinese Dictation Kit 1.0 (you speak Mandarin, your Mac types the Chinese!)
- Chinese Text-To-Speech 1.0.2 (your Mac speaks Mandarin to you!). Chinese TTS
is also available FREE from ftp:// |
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G*******n
发帖数: 6889 | 28 look on your OS 9 install CD, "whatroute 1.7" is included as part of
the install, or you should find it in the Extras folder on the CD...
non-free solutions include www.wildpackets.com iNetTools 2.6
or www.susworks.com IPNetMonitor
in OS X, look in /Applications/Utilities, there's Network Utility.app...
it's just a GUI frontend to the built-in ping/traceroute of UNIX (geez, i can't
stand the windoze terminology "tracert"...) |
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J********a
发帖数: 5208 | 29 apple is not good at office software (keynote is good), but powerpoint is
one of the 神器 in both mac and windoz。 so does excel. Office 2011 also
includes VBA, if you master it it will be even more 神器 |
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f*******5
发帖数: 10321 | 30 先搞明白win2008是什么再说吧。
批,
compize |
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 31 Windows 7
Windows Vista
Windows 2008
Windows 8
Windows 98
Home Basic
Home Premium
Enterprise
Professional
... |
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p******g
发帖数: 347 | 32 lol u don't get it do ya. of course i know win server 2008.
what i was saying is a mock on win version:
win7, win8, win9, win10...win100... win2000... win2008. |
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f*******5
发帖数: 10321 | 33 no. when you talked about unix and terminal, it seemed you emphasize the
functionality too. still same old ui talk. |
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f*******5
发帖数: 10321 | 34 i did not say osx is better or worse than them.....................yet... |
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f****y
发帖数: 426 | 35 别的不说，最大化这个。。你要知道lion一大卖点可是全屏啊。。
批,
compize |
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 36 全屏when you need it, need to focus in one app
multitasking的时候用mission control |
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P***a
发帖数: 4213 | 37 cheetah,puma,,,,,lion...
不如android或者ubuntu的名字好记 |
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e*****n
发帖数: 324 | 38 好不好记不好说，不过 Android 和 Ubuntu 的 code name 也不少。 |
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p******g
发帖数: 347 | 40 it's an easily implementable functionality. they single it out as a big
selling point because they want to convert more win users (who are used to
max their windows) to mac.
it's a good marketing strategy. |
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e*****n
发帖数: 324 | 41 好吧。我还是记不住 //羞愧
Jaunty Jackalope <- 好难啊～～～～(~_~;) |
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w********2
发帖数: 16371 | 43 lion full screen is much better than windows.. |
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j**u
发帖数: 6059 | 44 橘子就是比苹果好吃，别的不说，就说这个剥皮就比苹果强太多。苹果搞了个什么皮？
烂得简直一批,非要拿刀削皮。要是用牙齿啃的话，啃的坑坑洼洼难看死了，还有好多
口水，想想就恶心。而橘子随随便便就轻松把皮削了，就这一点苹果就怎么也赶不上了
。at least for me, after i started eating orange 30 years gao, i never
turned back to apple any more. i only eat watermellon and orange.
别的比如说橘子的颜色，酸酸甜甜的味道，还有富含维生素C，你那苹果就是不管是
gala还是富士都赶不上了。
我怎么就是不明白为什么老是有一帮人喜欢吃苹果，不喜欢吃橘子。
批,
compize |
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f****y
发帖数: 426 | 46 因为没有ribbon？
因为可以三根手指切换？lol |
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l****g
发帖数: 5080 | 48 “就”字一定要慎重使用。先说原因，在使用这个字，不然就成国轮了。切不可在标题
里使用。 |
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