j*********n
发帖数: 35 | 1 已经有了身份。具备一些advanced数据处理skills.也有过和精算相关的工作经历，现
在是有娃的大妈，年纪也不小了，LD是不太支持我转的，说我的年纪太大了。我也在Ao
上看到说这个不一定。不知道各位同学当初都是年纪多大时转的？
感觉现在很多actuarial analyst都是放在product组，工作很忙很繁琐，不知道我的这
个印象是否正确？
还有现在health care的精算位置挺多的，就是不知道医改后前途如何。
如果想从事精算工作，又想有不错的compensation & job security。那个方向会比较
好呢？
谢谢了。 |
v**n
发帖数: 130 | 2 one of my coworkers switches over to actuarial work from being a chemistry
teacher. she made the switch at age 52. She is 56 now and a very successful
associate actuary.
age is not a problem at all, but if you can't get your family's support,
this is not a field you should get into, because your whole family would
have to sacrifice when you study for exams. |
j*********n
发帖数: 35 | 3 非常感谢你和我分享了这么一个励志的故事。我是相当的佩服你的同事。
我也知道我会不时的面临着来自家庭的压力。我现在也不知道自己在真实的困难面前有
多么的抗压，
还有要面临继续CAS还是SOA考试的选折。好为难。
我记得你好像已经是Fellow了（希望没有记错），方便透露是哪个方向的吗？
谢谢了。
successful
【在 v**n 的大作中提到】
: one of my coworkers switches over to actuarial work from being a chemistry
: teacher. she made the switch at age 52. She is 56 now and a very successful
: associate actuary.
: age is not a problem at all, but if you can't get your family's support,
: this is not a field you should get into, because your whole family would
: have to sacrifice when you study for exams.
|
v**n
发帖数: 130 | 4 the lady is a personal friend of mine :) and I have another friend who
decided to become an actuary after retiring (not a typo) from the military.
He passed three exams and was then hand selected by the president of his
company to be his operational manager... I know another person in his late
40s with 4 kids who switched over from being a computer programmer in IBM
for 15 years....there are many stories like that I have personally seen.
I am a casualty actuary, and it doens't matter which track you pick, it is
not an easy road without STRONG family support... think hard and talk with
your family. it is not a personal decision when you have a family... good
luck. |
j*********n
发帖数: 35 | 5 再次感谢你的分享。
想问一些跟精算职业有关的更细节一点的问题,可否send a message给大侠?
.
【在 v**n 的大作中提到】
: the lady is a personal friend of mine :) and I have another friend who
: decided to become an actuary after retiring (not a typo) from the military.
: He passed three exams and was then hand selected by the president of his
: company to be his operational manager... I know another person in his late
: 40s with 4 kids who switched over from being a computer programmer in IBM
: for 15 years....there are many stories like that I have personally seen.
: I am a casualty actuary, and it doens't matter which track you pick, it is
: not an easy road without STRONG family support... think hard and talk with
: your family. it is not a personal decision when you have a family... good
: luck.
|
v**n
发帖数: 130 | 6 大侠不敢当。你可以把电话和时间发给我， 我打电话给你。 |
j*********n
发帖数: 35 | |
j*********n
发帖数: 35 | 8 已经有了身份。具备一些advanced数据处理skills.也有过和精算相关的工作经历，现
在是有娃的大妈，年纪也不小了，LD是不太支持我转的，说我的年纪太大了。我也在Ao
上看到说这个不一定。不知道各位同学当初都是年纪多大时转的？
感觉现在很多actuarial analyst都是放在product组，工作很忙很繁琐，不知道我的这
个印象是否正确？
还有现在health care的精算位置挺多的，就是不知道医改后前途如何。
如果想从事精算工作，又想有不错的compensation & job security。那个方向会比较
好呢？
谢谢了。 |
v**n
发帖数: 130 | 9 one of my coworkers switches over to actuarial work from being a chemistry
teacher. she made the switch at age 52. She is 56 now and a very successful
associate actuary.
age is not a problem at all, but if you can't get your family's support,
this is not a field you should get into, because your whole family would
have to sacrifice when you study for exams. |
j*********n
发帖数: 35 | 10 非常感谢你和我分享了这么一个励志的故事。我是相当的佩服你的同事。
我也知道我会不时的面临着来自家庭的压力。我现在也不知道自己在真实的困难面前有
多么的抗压，
还有要面临继续CAS还是SOA考试的选折。好为难。
我记得你好像已经是Fellow了（希望没有记错），方便透露是哪个方向的吗？
谢谢了。
successful
【在 v**n 的大作中提到】
: one of my coworkers switches over to actuarial work from being a chemistry
: teacher. she made the switch at age 52. She is 56 now and a very successful
: associate actuary.
: age is not a problem at all, but if you can't get your family's support,
: this is not a field you should get into, because your whole family would
: have to sacrifice when you study for exams.
|
|
|
v**n
发帖数: 130 | 11 the lady is a personal friend of mine :) and I have another friend who
decided to become an actuary after retiring (not a typo) from the military.
He passed three exams and was then hand selected by the president of his
company to be his operational manager... I know another person in his late
40s with 4 kids who switched over from being a computer programmer in IBM
for 15 years....there are many stories like that I have personally seen.
I am a casualty actuary, and it doens't matter which track you pick, it is
not an easy road without STRONG family support... think hard and talk with
your family. it is not a personal decision when you have a family... good
luck. |
j*********n
发帖数: 35 | 12 再次感谢你的分享。
想问一些跟精算职业有关的更细节一点的问题,可否send a message给大侠?
.
【在 v**n 的大作中提到】
: the lady is a personal friend of mine :) and I have another friend who
: decided to become an actuary after retiring (not a typo) from the military.
: He passed three exams and was then hand selected by the president of his
: company to be his operational manager... I know another person in his late
: 40s with 4 kids who switched over from being a computer programmer in IBM
: for 15 years....there are many stories like that I have personally seen.
: I am a casualty actuary, and it doens't matter which track you pick, it is
: not an easy road without STRONG family support... think hard and talk with
: your family. it is not a personal decision when you have a family... good
: luck.
|
v**n
发帖数: 130 | 13 大侠不敢当。你可以把电话和时间发给我， 我打电话给你。 |
j*********n
发帖数: 35 | |
b***n
发帖数: 137 | |
Y*H
发帖数: 1582 | 16 我也share一个例子,我老板是儿子高中以后才转的精算,现在是director.
Ao
【在 j*********n 的大作中提到】
: 已经有了身份。具备一些advanced数据处理skills.也有过和精算相关的工作经历，现
: 在是有娃的大妈，年纪也不小了，LD是不太支持我转的，说我的年纪太大了。我也在Ao
: 上看到说这个不一定。不知道各位同学当初都是年纪多大时转的？
: 感觉现在很多actuarial analyst都是放在product组，工作很忙很繁琐，不知道我的这
: 个印象是否正确？
: 还有现在health care的精算位置挺多的，就是不知道医改后前途如何。
: 如果想从事精算工作，又想有不错的compensation & job security。那个方向会比较
: 好呢？
: 谢谢了。
|
s****a
发帖数: 261 | 17 好奇一下，你老板原来做什么的？
【在 Y*H 的大作中提到】
: 我也share一个例子,我老板是儿子高中以后才转的精算,现在是director.
:
: Ao
|
Y*H
发帖数: 1582 | 18 老师...
看AO上一堆一堆的老师转精算.
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】
: 好奇一下，你老板原来做什么的？
|
s****a
发帖数: 261 | 19 呵呵，我隔壁small group也刚来了一个以前在中学教足球的老师，2门考试，没有任何
经验
【在 Y*H 的大作中提到】
: 老师...
: 看AO上一堆一堆的老师转精算.
|
Y*H
发帖数: 1582 | 20 这个nb阿,头脑兼四肢发达.
我以前公司有个college sport小有名气的精算师,据说他搞了个内部球队自己当教练,
队员都是大佬级别的.
感觉学术界的转精算很容易获得好感阿.
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，我隔壁small group也刚来了一个以前在中学教足球的老师，2门考试，没有任何
: 经验
|
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z********c
发帖数: 1268 | 21 年级和转行没有什么关系。三个例子。。我以前公司的AVP，以前是中学物理老师，40
多岁转行，很快考完FSA，干到60，马上要退休了。
读书学校的一个assistant professor,看着大概快50了吧，从intern开始，很快full-
time, 现在不知道怎样了。
现在公司的一个头，以前是个大头，退休了后被公司返聘的，现在看着快70了吧，返聘
的工作和他以前工作内容不完全一样。
人家快70了还在做和以前工作不一样的东西。。我觉得转行真的没有一个明确的界定，
往往是时时都在学新东西，时时都要考虑“转行”。
actuarial analyst在什么组都有，valuation,modeling,pricing,etc,大家都叫
analyst,都要处理数据。据我了解，保险公司工作大都不忙。
Ao
【在 j*********n 的大作中提到】
: 已经有了身份。具备一些advanced数据处理skills.也有过和精算相关的工作经历，现
: 在是有娃的大妈，年纪也不小了，LD是不太支持我转的，说我的年纪太大了。我也在Ao
: 上看到说这个不一定。不知道各位同学当初都是年纪多大时转的？
: 感觉现在很多actuarial analyst都是放在product组，工作很忙很繁琐，不知道我的这
: 个印象是否正确？
: 还有现在health care的精算位置挺多的，就是不知道医改后前途如何。
: 如果想从事精算工作，又想有不错的compensation & job security。那个方向会比较
: 好呢？
: 谢谢了。
|
Y*H
发帖数: 1582 | 22 不知道该不该说这个,也许会因人而异,但仔细想想,他们这些当老师啥的转精算都能
transfer soft skills,比如精算最总要的就是自学能力和解释technical concept的沟
通能力(包括 presentation skills).对一个教过几年书的老师来说这些就是白菜阿...
所以,我觉得lz也许需要结合自己的综合条件考虑一下.如果你认为的目前拥有的soft
skills能够transfer的话转行肯定没问题,否则跟其他candidate比没有闪光点.
lz你的expectation是什么?如果就是要一份稳定的工作随时可以转.如果你有野心的话,
我建议先考虑一下自己的优势是什么,这样可以避免期望值过高...
另外,lz要做好心理准备,你很有可能会被当成一个EL对待,也就是说的responsibility
跟你的skill set不平衡, 因为公司(尤其是大公司)没法一下子完全认可你以前的工作
经历, 除非你能找到一个赏识你并且powerful的老板.
啰嗦了一堆,我身边转精算的大多都喜欢他们现在的工作,in the end, it's your call
:)
40
【在 z********c 的大作中提到】
: 年级和转行没有什么关系。三个例子。。我以前公司的AVP，以前是中学物理老师，40
: 多岁转行，很快考完FSA，干到60，马上要退休了。
: 读书学校的一个assistant professor,看着大概快50了吧，从intern开始，很快full-
: time, 现在不知道怎样了。
: 现在公司的一个头，以前是个大头，退休了后被公司返聘的，现在看着快70了吧，返聘
: 的工作和他以前工作内容不完全一样。
: 人家快70了还在做和以前工作不一样的东西。。我觉得转行真的没有一个明确的界定，
: 往往是时时都在学新东西，时时都要考虑“转行”。
: actuarial analyst在什么组都有，valuation,modeling,pricing,etc,大家都叫
: analyst,都要处理数据。据我了解，保险公司工作大都不忙。
|
B****r
发帖数: 647 | 23 请问除了精算的应用领域只在healthcare吗？
Ao
【在 j*********n 的大作中提到】
: 已经有了身份。具备一些advanced数据处理skills.也有过和精算相关的工作经历，现
: 在是有娃的大妈，年纪也不小了，LD是不太支持我转的，说我的年纪太大了。我也在Ao
: 上看到说这个不一定。不知道各位同学当初都是年纪多大时转的？
: 感觉现在很多actuarial analyst都是放在product组，工作很忙很繁琐，不知道我的这
: 个印象是否正确？
: 还有现在health care的精算位置挺多的，就是不知道医改后前途如何。
: 如果想从事精算工作，又想有不错的compensation & job security。那个方向会比较
: 好呢？
: 谢谢了。
|
m*****y
发帖数: 518 | |
s*****3
发帖数: 1673 | |
j*********n
发帖数: 35 | 26 谢谢回复。最近有点忙，直到现在才看到你的回帖。
我现在的身份不是问题。
只是我个人评估的结果是，本人的hard skills 远远好于我的soft skills.不过soft
skills are ok,不过不知道我的soft skills是否足以应付精算的工作。
记得你现在已经是fsa of health track.不知道你大概是花了多少时间拿到的？
还有如果我现在对数据处理比较感兴趣，这类工作在健康险里是不是还比较多。
谢谢，并祝周末愉快。
..
话,
responsibility
【在 Y*H 的大作中提到】
: 不知道该不该说这个,也许会因人而异,但仔细想想,他们这些当老师啥的转精算都能
: transfer soft skills,比如精算最总要的就是自学能力和解释technical concept的沟
: 通能力(包括 presentation skills).对一个教过几年书的老师来说这些就是白菜阿...
: 所以,我觉得lz也许需要结合自己的综合条件考虑一下.如果你认为的目前拥有的soft
: skills能够transfer的话转行肯定没问题,否则跟其他candidate比没有闪光点.
: lz你的expectation是什么?如果就是要一份稳定的工作随时可以转.如果你有野心的话,
: 我建议先考虑一下自己的优势是什么,这样可以避免期望值过高...
: 另外,lz要做好心理准备,你很有可能会被当成一个EL对待,也就是说的responsibility
: 跟你的skill set不平衡, 因为公司(尤其是大公司)没法一下子完全认可你以前的工作
: 经历, 除非你能找到一个赏识你并且powerful的老板.
|
Y*H
发帖数: 1582 | 27 --Communication is very important - most of us do a good job at work but it'
s not always easy to know how/who to present your ideas to. In your
experience, do you always feel your expectation of the scope/visibility of
the projects that you initiated are usually met after you bring it up to
your boss? Can you convince others that your ideas are good & will work when
people have doubts about it? Can you get buy-ins from other teams to
execute your ideas?
--Knowing how to communicate will get you to junior managers w/ no problem
assuming you have your credentials. The next step is networking, which will
allow you to advance further.
--6 yrs ba...from the beginning.
--From my limited exposure to this area, not all companies have roles like
this and not all of them support exam track. Why would a company pay $100K
to a new FSA when they can get cheaper IT people to do it? You might have to
pull some data as entry level, but once you get your FSA the expectation is
usually different. This could be different for life and p&c. |
j*********n
发帖数: 35 | 28 thanks for answering my questions in details.
I have to say that presentation skills are the challenging part for me. I
would like to pursue the actuarial jobs focusing more on technical side,
such as working with data management group and give them guidance on how to
collect data, or working with the modeling group, etc.
I am still not very sure if it's worth transferring to actuarial area with
so many uncertainties, such as few local job opportunities, the time I can
spend on studying for the exams.
I am still thinking.. and hopefully I can figure out it some time this year.
Thanks.
it'
when
will
【在 Y*H 的大作中提到】
: --Communication is very important - most of us do a good job at work but it'
: s not always easy to know how/who to present your ideas to. In your
: experience, do you always feel your expectation of the scope/visibility of
: the projects that you initiated are usually met after you bring it up to
: your boss? Can you convince others that your ideas are good & will work when
: people have doubts about it? Can you get buy-ins from other teams to
: execute your ideas?
: --Knowing how to communicate will get you to junior managers w/ no problem
: assuming you have your credentials. The next step is networking, which will
: allow you to advance further.
|
Y*H
发帖数: 1582 | 29 you are very welcome.
I feel with your background life or P&C would be better fit than health. If
I were you I would at least try to pass a couple exams and get a couple
interviews. Sometimes you don't know the answer until you try.
to
year.
【在 j*********n 的大作中提到】
: thanks for answering my questions in details.
: I have to say that presentation skills are the challenging part for me. I
: would like to pursue the actuarial jobs focusing more on technical side,
: such as working with data management group and give them guidance on how to
: collect data, or working with the modeling group, etc.
: I am still not very sure if it's worth transferring to actuarial area with
: so many uncertainties, such as few local job opportunities, the time I can
: spend on studying for the exams.
: I am still thinking.. and hopefully I can figure out it some time this year.
: Thanks.
|
