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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Privacy watchdogs are demanding answers from Apple Inc
. about why iPhones and iPads are secretly collecting location data on users
-- records that cellular service providers routinely keep but require a
court order to disgorge.
It's not clear if other smartphones and tablet computers are logging such
information on their users. And this week's revelation that the Apple
devices do wasn't even new -- some security experts began warning about the
issue a year ago.
But the worry prompted by a report from researchers Alasdair Allan and Pete
Warden at a technology conference in Santa Clara, Calif., raises questions
about how much privacy you implicitly surrender by carrying around a
smartphone and the responsibility of the smartphone makers to protect
sensitive data that flows through their devices.
Much of the concern about the iPhone and iPad tracking stems from the fact
the computers are logging users' physical coordinates without users knowing
it -- and that that information is then stored in an unencrypted form that
would be easy for a hacker or a suspicious spouse or a law enforcement
officer to find without a warrant.
Researchers emphasize that there's no evidence that Apple itself has access
to this data. The data apparently stays on the device itself, and computers
the data is backed up to. Apple didn't immediately respond to a request for
comment by The Associated Press.
Tracking is a normal part of owning a cellphone. What's done with that data,
though, is where the controversy lies.
A central question in this controversy is whether a smartphone should act
merely as a conduit of location data to service providers and approved
applications -- or as a more active participant by storing the data itself,
to make location-based applications run more smoothly or help better target
mobile ads or any number of other uses.
Location data is some of the most valuable information a mobile phone can
provide, since it can tell advertisers not only where someone's been, but
also where they might be going -- and what they might be inclined to buy
when they get there.
Allan and Warden said the location coordinates and time stamps in the Apple
devices aren't always exact, but appear in a file that typically contains
about a year's worth of data that when taken together provide a detailed
view of users' travels.
"We're not sure why Apple is gathering this data, but it's clearly
intentional, as the database is being restored across backups, and even
device migrations," they wrote in a blog posting announcing the research.
Allan said in an email to the AP that he and Warden haven't looked at how
other smartphones behave in this regard, but added there's suspicion that
phones that run Google Inc.'s Android software might behave in a similar way
and is being investigated.
Google did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Alex Levinson, a security expert, said the tracking Apple's devices do isn't
new -- or a surprise to those in the computer forensics community.
The Apple devices have been retaining the information for some time, but it
was kept in a different form until the release of the iOS 4 operating
software last year, Levinson, technical lead for the Katana Forensics firm,
wrote on his blog.
Through his work with law enforcement agencies, Levinson said he was able to
access the location data in older iPhones and warned about the issue over a
year ago. The location data is now easier to find because of a change in
the way iPhone applications access the data, he said.
"Either way, it is not secret, malicious, or hidden," Levinson wrote. "Users
still have to approve location access to any application and have the
ability to instantly turn off location services to applications inside the
settings menu on their device."
The existence of the location-data file on the phone is alarming because it'
s unencrypted, the researchers said, which means that anyone with access to
the device can see it.
Charlie Miller, a prominent iPhone hacker, said a security change that Apple
made last month would make extracting the file from the phone in a remote
attack very difficult. Even if an attacker were to break into someone's
phone looking for the file, he wouldn't have the right privileges to access
the file.
The data is "pretty well-protected on the phone," Miller, principal security
analyst with Independent Security Evaluators, said in an interview.
"On the phone, they take a lot of precautions." He said. "It's sort of
frightening in the sense that it's there, and it's full of information about
where you've been, but the good news is it's not easy to get to."
But it's a different matter when the data is transferred to another computer
in a backup. If the backup computer is infected with malicious software,
the file could easily be located and sent to the hacker. A way to protect
against that is to encrypt the iPhone backup through iTunes, the researchers
said.
The issue has prompted several members of Congress to write letters to Apple
, based in Cupertino, Calif., to answer questions about the practice.
Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., said it raises "serious privacy concerns,"
especially for children using the devices, since "anyone who gains access to
this single file could likely determine the location of a user's home, the
businesses he frequents, the doctors he visits, the schools his children
attend, and the trips he has taken -- over the past months or even a year."
Rep. Edward Markey, D-Mass., questioned whether the practice may be illegal
under a federal law governing the use of location information for commercial
purposes, if consumers weren't properly informed.
"Apple needs to safeguard the personal location information of its users to
ensure that an iPhone doesn't become an iTrack," he said in a statement. "
Collecting, storing and disclosing a consumer's location for commercial
purposes without their express permission is unacceptable and would violate
current law."
Apple shares rose $9.20, or 2.7 percent, to $351.71 on the strength of the
company's latest quarterly financial results, which showed Apple's net
income nearly doubled, in large part on strength of iPhone sales. | h***r
发帖数: 726 | 2 that is why steve jobhs said "do no evil" is bullshit.
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【在 G****s 的大作中提到】
: from yahoo
: SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Privacy watchdogs are demanding answers from Apple Inc
: . about why iPhones and iPads are secretly collecting location data on users
: -- records that cellular service providers routinely keep but require a
: court order to disgorge.
: It's not clear if other smartphones and tablet computers are logging such
: information on their users. And this week's revelation that the Apple
: devices do wasn't even new -- some security experts began warning about the
: issue a year ago.
: But the worry prompted by a report from researchers Alasdair Allan and Pete
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发帖数: 4953 | 3 专家们知不知道手机里面还有上网的记录。每次用谷歌搜索的时候。搜索记录也存在手
机里。。 好好调查一下。有很多工作机会被创造出来了。
Inc
users
【在 G****s 的大作中提到】
: from yahoo
: SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Privacy watchdogs are demanding answers from Apple Inc
: . about why iPhones and iPads are secretly collecting location data on users
: -- records that cellular service providers routinely keep but require a
: court order to disgorge.
: It's not clear if other smartphones and tablet computers are logging such
: information on their users. And this week's revelation that the Apple
: devices do wasn't even new -- some security experts began warning about the
: issue a year ago.
: But the worry prompted by a report from researchers Alasdair Allan and Pete
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发帖数: 6971 | 4 Google更狠呢。Android不仅track你，还把你的location随时送回Google，其中包括你
的phone的unique id。
Apple和Skyhook至少不send back unique id。也就是说他们只知道某个人在这个
location，但是不知道这个人是谁。Google可是随时知道任何人的location。 | a**s
发帖数: 1398 | 5 有出处吗？
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】
: Google更狠呢。Android不仅track你，还把你的location随时送回Google，其中包括你
: 的phone的unique id。
: Apple和Skyhook至少不send back unique id。也就是说他们只知道某个人在这个
: location，但是不知道这个人是谁。Google可是随时知道任何人的location。
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发帖数: 6971 | 6
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870398370457627710
"Google previously has said that the Wi-Fi data it collects is anonymous and
that it deletes the start and end points of every trip that it uses in its
traffic maps. However, the data, provided to the Journal exclusively by Mr.
Kamkar, contained a unique identifier tied to an individual's phone."
"Skyhook... Each time a user requests location, the information is encrypted
and gathered without any identifying user numbers"
"Apple said the data it transmits about location aren't associated with a
unique device identifier, except for data related to its mobile advertising
network"
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