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Apple版 - Why Map is the last straw that breaks apple's back
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话题: apple话题: map话题: technology话题: takes话题: problem
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k*****a
发帖数: 1463
1
Apple takes technologies for granted. Therefore, it takes user experience as
most important thing, and everything else is too simple to put under their
radar. Every apple's innovation circles around user experience changes.
Without fashion making apple's design pitch, the company is now in a domain
that it lacks enough know-how to continue.
People could find themselves similarly looking at the airplane engines,
after 10s of years of developing and catching up, China still have almost
same distance of the leading competitor in the field. Simply speaking, some
technology just takes the man-power PLUS time, it take years to mature and a
lot of man-power to achieve it.
The mistakes seems to be naïve, but they root in the fact that Apple is
everything but technology company. Map is not just an embarrassment, it is
a harbinger of the camel's back is broken.
There was rumor that Apple will do search. Well, it took Microsoft 10s of
years to achieve this stage, which is still yet to proven success/failure.
For apple to step into this water, apple will not have that luxury of time
to do so.
Even apple can start fixing Map by acquisition of the underdog after they
spent 5 years in catching up Map technology anyway, it is too late in some
of the game. Moreover, it will never be able to fix the broken machine on
the root
, especially to a closed "ecosystem" with wearing anti-trust handcuff.
w********2
发帖数: 16371
2
每天都有人激扬文字说苹果不是技术公司。苹果是现在市值最大的技术公司。

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Apple takes technologies for granted. Therefore, it takes user experience as
: most important thing, and everything else is too simple to put under their
: radar. Every apple's innovation circles around user experience changes.
: Without fashion making apple's design pitch, the company is now in a domain
: that it lacks enough know-how to continue.
: People could find themselves similarly looking at the airplane engines,
: after 10s of years of developing and catching up, China still have almost
: same distance of the leading competitor in the field. Simply speaking, some
: technology just takes the man-power PLUS time, it take years to mature and a
: lot of man-power to achieve it.

k*****a
发帖数: 1463
3
You can call ExxonMobile a technology company too.
What they do matters, how they do matters even more.

【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: 每天都有人激扬文字说苹果不是技术公司。苹果是现在市值最大的技术公司。
k*****a
发帖数: 1463
4
You will learn more why Apple does not have much of technology in the gut
when they approach the map problem years ago:
"
I suspect that the data and routing functionality that they have from
TomTom, while not the best, is simply not the source of their problems.
Their problem is that they thought they did not have a problem. From my
perspective, this is the mark of an organization that does not have the
experience or know-how to manage a large-scale mapping project. Apple needs
to hire some experts in mapping and people who are experienced in mapping
and understand the problems that can and do occur when compiling complex
spatial databases designed for mapping, navigation and local search.
"
>>>> Not knowing the problem while having a problem means the company
approached the problem wrong at the root. Apple simply does NOT "understand
the problems that can and do occur when compiling complex spatial databases
designed for mapping, navigation and local search". -- and may still believe
they don't need these, and it takes 1 to 2 month to do...
http://blog.telemapics.com/?p=399

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: You can call ExxonMobile a technology company too.
: What they do matters, how they do matters even more.

a***y
发帖数: 19743
5
We just have to wait tand see in half an year, is the POI etc going to be
better?
When apple ditched Flash, it is also similar to ditching Google Map. H.264
video was very lacking. I like the look and feel of the Apple maps. So as
long as they can catch up with data soon, it will be a good move.

as
their
domain
some
a

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Apple takes technologies for granted. Therefore, it takes user experience as
: most important thing, and everything else is too simple to put under their
: radar. Every apple's innovation circles around user experience changes.
: Without fashion making apple's design pitch, the company is now in a domain
: that it lacks enough know-how to continue.
: People could find themselves similarly looking at the airplane engines,
: after 10s of years of developing and catching up, China still have almost
: same distance of the leading competitor in the field. Simply speaking, some
: technology just takes the man-power PLUS time, it take years to mature and a
: lot of man-power to achieve it.

w********2
发帖数: 16371
6
go to yahoo finance, input symbol, check its sector.

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: You can call ExxonMobile a technology company too.
: What they do matters, how they do matters even more.

w********2
发帖数: 16371
7
the link attached is pretty good in pointing out the potential issues in
apple map development.

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: You will learn more why Apple does not have much of technology in the gut
: when they approach the map problem years ago:
: "
: I suspect that the data and routing functionality that they have from
: TomTom, while not the best, is simply not the source of their problems.
: Their problem is that they thought they did not have a problem. From my
: perspective, this is the mark of an organization that does not have the
: experience or know-how to manage a large-scale mapping project. Apple needs
: to hire some experts in mapping and people who are experienced in mapping
: and understand the problems that can and do occur when compiling complex

t***s
发帖数: 4666
8
totally different scenarios. flash is a problem the world solved for apple.
apple made a fashion statement, flash is no longer in. and the world give
in and,followed.
who's gonna solve the map problem for apple?

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: We just have to wait tand see in half an year, is the POI etc going to be
: better?
: When apple ditched Flash, it is also similar to ditching Google Map. H.264
: video was very lacking. I like the look and feel of the Apple maps. So as
: long as they can catch up with data soon, it will be a good move.
:
: as
: their
: domain
: some

k*****a
发帖数: 1463
9
:) I thought I 've been sarcastic...
Even exxonmobile could be more a technology company than appl.

【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: go to yahoo finance, input symbol, check its sector.
a***s
发帖数: 440
10

苹果的码工码农啊,这你就放心好了。谁也不想看着自己的RSUs缩水,您说是这儿个理
吧?
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.5

【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: totally different scenarios. flash is a problem the world solved for apple.
: apple made a fashion statement, flash is no longer in. and the world give
: in and,followed.
: who's gonna solve the map problem for apple?

i**********n
发帖数: 192
11
are you kidding? apple poised to sell 10 million iphones in debut...

as
their
domain
some
a

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Apple takes technologies for granted. Therefore, it takes user experience as
: most important thing, and everything else is too simple to put under their
: radar. Every apple's innovation circles around user experience changes.
: Without fashion making apple's design pitch, the company is now in a domain
: that it lacks enough know-how to continue.
: People could find themselves similarly looking at the airplane engines,
: after 10s of years of developing and catching up, China still have almost
: same distance of the leading competitor in the field. Simply speaking, some
: technology just takes the man-power PLUS time, it take years to mature and a
: lot of man-power to achieve it.

k*****a
发帖数: 1463
12
You share the same resolution with Apple: "It is data problem". TomTom has
the data for apple.
It is pathetic for apple that does not understand the problem and trying to
provide the answer.
As to flash, there is no solution needed and let it die. However, this time,
the table has turned. It is not something that apple can let it die, or it
will die with it.

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: We just have to wait tand see in half an year, is the POI etc going to be
: better?
: When apple ditched Flash, it is also similar to ditching Google Map. H.264
: video was very lacking. I like the look and feel of the Apple maps. So as
: long as they can catch up with data soon, it will be a good move.
:
: as
: their
: domain
: some

w*****g
发帖数: 16352
13
short apple, short, short, short, short!

Apple takes technologies for granted. Therefore, it takes user experience as
most important thing, and everything else is too simple to put under their
radar. Every apple's innovation circles around user experience changes.
Without fashion making apple's design pitch, the company is now in a domain
that it lacks enough know-how to continue.
People could find themselves similarly looking at the airplane engines,
after 10s of years of developing and catching up, China still have almost
same distance of the leading competitor in the field. Simply speaking, some
technology just takes the man-power PLUS time, it take years to mature and a
lot of man-power to achieve it.
The mistakes seems to be naïve, but they root in the fact that Apple is
everything but technology company. Map is not just an embarrassment, it is
a harbinger of the camel's back is broken.
There was rumor that Apple will do search. Well, it took Microsoft 10s of
years to achieve this stage, which is still yet to proven success/failure.
For apple to step into this water, apple will not have that luxury of time
to do so.
Even apple can start fixing Map by acquisition of the underdog after they
spent 5 years in catching up Map technology anyway, it is too late in some
of the game. Moreover, it will never be able to fix the broken machine on
the root
, especially to a closed "ecosystem" with wearing anti-trust handcuff.

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Apple takes technologies for granted. Therefore, it takes user experience as
: most important thing, and everything else is too simple to put under their
: radar. Every apple's innovation circles around user experience changes.
: Without fashion making apple's design pitch, the company is now in a domain
: that it lacks enough know-how to continue.
: People could find themselves similarly looking at the airplane engines,
: after 10s of years of developing and catching up, China still have almost
: same distance of the leading competitor in the field. Simply speaking, some
: technology just takes the man-power PLUS time, it take years to mature and a
: lot of man-power to achieve it.

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