t****y
发帖数: 545 | 1 toyota sienna停在家门口，不知道是忘了关灯还是什么原因，今天打不着了，什么都
没有反应，车灯，dashboard所有的都没有反应，第一感觉是电池没电了，用jumper连
另外一辆车充电，但还是不行。邻居用万用表量了一下，12.8V，应该电池还好，可是
为啥打不着火呢？是不是保险丝的问题？ |
a******o
发帖数: 16625 | 2 电池接触不良吧。
【在 t****y 的大作中提到】
: toyota sienna停在家门口，不知道是忘了关灯还是什么原因，今天打不着了，什么都
: 没有反应，车灯，dashboard所有的都没有反应，第一感觉是电池没电了，用jumper连
: 另外一辆车充电，但还是不行。邻居用万用表量了一下，12.8V，应该电池还好，可是
: 为啥打不着火呢？是不是保险丝的问题？
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k*******q
发帖数: 5493 | 3 “可靠”的日本车总是会掉链子的，趁早卖了吧，别再相信什么日车神话了
【在 t****y 的大作中提到】
: toyota sienna停在家门口，不知道是忘了关灯还是什么原因，今天打不着了，什么都
: 没有反应，车灯，dashboard所有的都没有反应，第一感觉是电池没电了，用jumper连
: 另外一辆车充电，但还是不行。邻居用万用表量了一下，12.8V，应该电池还好，可是
: 为啥打不着火呢？是不是保险丝的问题？
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w*****y
发帖数: 264 | 4 检查电池接线柱上的连接是否紧实（必须要紧实，虚连不行）。 |
h**********r
发帖数: 2284 | 5 你这帖子连一点儿蒸馏水都没有，直接pass.
【在 k*******q 的大作中提到】
: “可靠”的日本车总是会掉链子的，趁早卖了吧，别再相信什么日车神话了
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h**********r
发帖数: 2284 | 6 which year and it's mileage?
bases on ur description, not likely to be starter either. check battery
connection, see if there's any 电解液 leaking or 'rust'.
【在 t****y 的大作中提到】
: toyota sienna停在家门口，不知道是忘了关灯还是什么原因，今天打不着了，什么都
: 没有反应，车灯，dashboard所有的都没有反应，第一感觉是电池没电了，用jumper连
: 另外一辆车充电，但还是不行。邻居用万用表量了一下，12.8V，应该电池还好，可是
: 为啥打不着火呢？是不是保险丝的问题？
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k*******q
发帖数: 5493 | 7 你自己在这个版上翻翻帖子，无数的日本车打不着上来求助，可靠性简直是笑柄
【在 h**********r 的大作中提到】
: 你这帖子连一点儿蒸馏水都没有，直接pass.
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h**********r
发帖数: 2284 | 8 The people here are mostly not that into fixing cars and while there's any
problem, they rely on this board for an answer. And the posts like yours
were coming out without being any helpful or meaningful at all. Thanks for
you guys to trash this board.
I actually see more German cars (many look quite new) dying on the road than
other makes. but I never intend to claim this applicable to all German, Jap
, Am, etc., makes. The matter of the fact is while old Jap cars couldn't be
started due to battery or whatever reasons, most same year old German car
have already died out on the road.
Whatever your or my personal claim may not be the truth. You need to look at
what professionals say. Just browsing any auto web sites, there are
explicit scores about 'quality, performance, safety, and reliability', etc.
Whatever you say is weak while those professionals and data make more sense.
【在 k*******q 的大作中提到】
: 你自己在这个版上翻翻帖子，无数的日本车打不着上来求助，可靠性简直是笑柄
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w********r
发帖数: 14958 | 9 本来就是日托造谣的。 实际上只有日车主自己吃亏受苦，
【在 k*******q 的大作中提到】
: “可靠”的日本车总是会掉链子的，趁早卖了吧，别再相信什么日车神话了
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k*******q
发帖数: 5493 | 10 你拉倒吧，满街坏在路上的都是日本车和美国车
than
Jap
be
at
【在 h**********r 的大作中提到】
: The people here are mostly not that into fixing cars and while there's any
: problem, they rely on this board for an answer. And the posts like yours
: were coming out without being any helpful or meaningful at all. Thanks for
: you guys to trash this board.
: I actually see more German cars (many look quite new) dying on the road than
: other makes. but I never intend to claim this applicable to all German, Jap
: , Am, etc., makes. The matter of the fact is while old Jap cars couldn't be
: started due to battery or whatever reasons, most same year old German car
: have already died out on the road.
: Whatever your or my personal claim may not be the truth. You need to look at
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g********b
发帖数: 8461 | 11 Japanese cars die more at home on driveway or in garage that you can't see.
Fact is that Jap cars are designed so poor that it always dies before you
start the car. German cars are designed better so even if there's a big
problem it still can run for some time therefore if you are close enough to
your destination you can still make it. However lots of people ignore what
computer tells him and the car dies on road.
Comparing the owners, German car owners are more sensitive to problems than
Jap car owners. Lots of Jap car runs with broken door handle and dead brake
light bulbs whereas German car owners cannot tolerate a problem as small as
door opening noise.
than
Jap
be
at
【在 h**********r 的大作中提到】
: The people here are mostly not that into fixing cars and while there's any
: problem, they rely on this board for an answer. And the posts like yours
: were coming out without being any helpful or meaningful at all. Thanks for
: you guys to trash this board.
: I actually see more German cars (many look quite new) dying on the road than
: other makes. but I never intend to claim this applicable to all German, Jap
: , Am, etc., makes. The matter of the fact is while old Jap cars couldn't be
: started due to battery or whatever reasons, most same year old German car
: have already died out on the road.
: Whatever your or my personal claim may not be the truth. You need to look at
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k*******q
发帖数: 5493 | 12 另外有点脑子的，就不该相信日本轿车的在网站上的五星安全
从来都是日本车被美国车德国车干死，驾驶员重伤甚至当场毙命，然后美车德车司机在
边上无辜又焦急地看着，等待救护车到来
相反的事情就没听说过
than
Jap
be
at
【在 h**********r 的大作中提到】
: The people here are mostly not that into fixing cars and while there's any
: problem, they rely on this board for an answer. And the posts like yours
: were coming out without being any helpful or meaningful at all. Thanks for
: you guys to trash this board.
: I actually see more German cars (many look quite new) dying on the road than
: other makes. but I never intend to claim this applicable to all German, Jap
: , Am, etc., makes. The matter of the fact is while old Jap cars couldn't be
: started due to battery or whatever reasons, most same year old German car
: have already died out on the road.
: Whatever your or my personal claim may not be the truth. You need to look at
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r***e
发帖数: 10135 | 13 starter坏了
【在 t****y 的大作中提到】
: toyota sienna停在家门口，不知道是忘了关灯还是什么原因，今天打不着了，什么都
: 没有反应，车灯，dashboard所有的都没有反应，第一感觉是电池没电了，用jumper连
: 另外一辆车充电，但还是不行。邻居用万用表量了一下，12.8V，应该电池还好，可是
: 为啥打不着火呢？是不是保险丝的问题？
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A***n
发帖数: 8859 | 14 提供电力的车子换个大的试试。
多点细节好些。
丰田的车子是烂些，不过大家还是多帮帮受害人楼主吧 |
g********b
发帖数: 8461 | 15 这情况八成是线虚了。LZ检查电瓶线和桩头吧，注意线的两头都要检查。另外量12.8V
是空载的，你看钥匙拧到Start的时候还是不是12.8V，如果下降不多的话估计就是线虚
了。
【在 A***n 的大作中提到】
: 提供电力的车子换个大的试试。
: 多点细节好些。
: 丰田的车子是烂些，不过大家还是多帮帮受害人楼主吧
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S***I
发帖数: 2737 | 16 starter 可以是常見的原因，Sienna到一定年數，里程數，starter要更換。
但是，也有另外一個原因，電子控制版。 在2005年左右的model的toyota上常見。是一
個recall。這個一般的garage搞不了。
【在 t****y 的大作中提到】
: toyota sienna停在家门口，不知道是忘了关灯还是什么原因，今天打不着了，什么都
: 没有反应，车灯，dashboard所有的都没有反应，第一感觉是电池没电了，用jumper连
: 另外一辆车充电，但还是不行。邻居用万用表量了一下，12.8V，应该电池还好，可是
: 为啥打不着火呢？是不是保险丝的问题？
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g********b
发帖数: 8461 | 17 你说的是ECU吧？ECU坏了的现象是crank no start，LZ这个看描述是全车没电。
【在 S***I 的大作中提到】
: starter 可以是常見的原因，Sienna到一定年數，里程數，starter要更換。
: 但是，也有另外一個原因，電子控制版。 在2005年左右的model的toyota上常見。是一
: 個recall。這個一般的garage搞不了。
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h**********r
发帖数: 2284 | 18 That's not what I saw.
Besides, Jap and Am. cars have much more quantity on the road.
【在 k*******q 的大作中提到】
: 你拉倒吧，满街坏在路上的都是日本车和美国车
:
: than
: Jap
: be
: at
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h**********r
发帖数: 2284 | 19 有点脑子的 should not switch the subject. We were talking about reliability
issue. I just used the several factors available in various car review web
site as an example. You don't have to trip the reliability topic into safety.
In terms of safety, the small overlap test last year and recently shows well
. There's no need to argue.
【在 k*******q 的大作中提到】
: 另外有点脑子的，就不该相信日本轿车的在网站上的五星安全
: 从来都是日本车被美国车德国车干死，驾驶员重伤甚至当场毙命，然后美车德车司机在
: 边上无辜又焦急地看着，等待救护车到来
: 相反的事情就没听说过
:
: than
: Jap
: be
: at
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k*******q
发帖数: 5493 | 20 所有测试假的地方就在于全是撞击静止目标，两车对撞的结果是不会和测试结果一致的
，刚性差的要吸收多过自身的动能，车身软的日本车就要为双方买单
另外关于楼主的车，JUMP START的话，起码让另一个车发动着给他的车充电15分钟再尝
试启动
reliability
safety.
well
【在 h**********r 的大作中提到】
: 有点脑子的 should not switch the subject. We were talking about reliability
: issue. I just used the several factors available in various car review web
: site as an example. You don't have to trip the reliability topic into safety.
: In terms of safety, the small overlap test last year and recently shows well
: . There's no need to argue.
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t*****g
发帖数: 7455 | 21 没错，不过我印象里不光是sienna，用这个v6发动机的都如此
【在 S***I 的大作中提到】
: starter 可以是常見的原因，Sienna到一定年數，里程數，starter要更換。
: 但是，也有另外一個原因，電子控制版。 在2005年左右的model的toyota上常見。是一
: 個recall。這個一般的garage搞不了。
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h**********r
发帖数: 2284 | 22
We both (or all) know about this. No argument there - that's what I meant.
It may work this way. But it's very likely the battery just being dead.
Recharge won't work in most cases.
【在 k*******q 的大作中提到】
: 所有测试假的地方就在于全是撞击静止目标，两车对撞的结果是不会和测试结果一致的
: ，刚性差的要吸收多过自身的动能，车身软的日本车就要为双方买单
: 另外关于楼主的车，JUMP START的话，起码让另一个车发动着给他的车充电15分钟再尝
: 试启动
:
: reliability
: safety.
: well
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