m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 1 如果象乒乓球一样, 必须一人打一拍, 会好玩吗? | H*7
发帖数: 4894 | 2 场地太大，我觉得打不起来。
其实现在打那个 ３ vs３ 挺好玩的。
【在 m****r 的大作中提到】
: 如果象乒乓球一样, 必须一人打一拍, 会好玩吗?
| m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 3 你觉得吗? 我看到那个就想吐.
【在 H*7 的大作中提到】
: 场地太大，我觉得打不起来。
: 其实现在打那个 ３ vs３ 挺好玩的。
| H*7
发帖数: 4894 | 4 真打起来还是不错的。不过，更需要两边实力对等，要不更打不起来。
【在 m****r 的大作中提到】
: 你觉得吗? 我看到那个就想吐.
| a***a
发帖数: 4195 | 5 不如 5对5，每人一个拍子。取消球网，全场跑，把球往一个小筐里打。
【在 H*7 的大作中提到】
: 场地太大，我觉得打不起来。
: 其实现在打那个 ３ vs３ 挺好玩的。
| H*7
发帖数: 4894 | 6 有这项活动呀
不过需要把球拍线该成网
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】
: 不如 5对5，每人一个拍子。取消球网，全场跑，把球往一个小筐里打。
| b*****t
发帖数: 3928 | 7 要用单打场地。双打场地太大。
【在 m****r 的大作中提到】
: 如果象乒乓球一样, 必须一人打一拍, 会好玩吗?
| b*****t
发帖数: 3928 | 8 没打过3vs3。总觉得那不是羽毛球。
【在 H*7 的大作中提到】
: 场地太大，我觉得打不起来。
: 其实现在打那个 ３ vs３ 挺好玩的。
| H*7
发帖数: 4894 | 9 是不像羽毛球。不过，可以过一项的瘾，比如后场杀球，前场封网什么的。那种调动什
么的都没了。
【在 b*****t 的大作中提到】
: 没打过3vs3。总觉得那不是羽毛球。
| s**x
发帖数: 7506 | 10 应该把乒乓双打这个规则去掉， 谁打得到谁打。 :) | | | l*********y
发帖数: 3447 | 11 it is like eating boneless buffalo chicken wings, the fun part is taken away.
The reason that in pinpang we have this rule is to avoid a very strong
player can handle the opponents with his partner sitting aside drinking
coffee. In badminton, it is much harder for one to deal with two.
【在 m****r 的大作中提到】
: 如果象乒乓球一样, 必须一人打一拍, 会好玩吗?
| m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 12 first of all, boneless buffalo wings do exist in the real world, so, there
is a definite demand for it. so, many some may think it is no fun, but some
others would prefer it still.
secondly, i don't follow your logic about badminton being "less fun" because
the stronger player is forced to take turn with the weaker player? are you
saying, that the fact that in badminton, in doubles, the stronger player
can play more shots, makes the game more fun?
away.
【在 l*********y 的大作中提到】
: it is like eating boneless buffalo chicken wings, the fun part is taken away.
: The reason that in pinpang we have this rule is to avoid a very strong
: player can handle the opponents with his partner sitting aside drinking
: coffee. In badminton, it is much harder for one to deal with two.
| g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 13 Of course, it makes an amateur double game more balanced.
A high hand can couple with a low hand to play two middle
hands.
Think of our job. A more experienced coder can help the
less experienced coder to fix bugs. If everyone must take
care of his own sh*t. The team is as bad as the worst coder
is.
some
because
you
【在 m****r 的大作中提到】
: first of all, boneless buffalo wings do exist in the real world, so, there
: is a definite demand for it. so, many some may think it is no fun, but some
: others would prefer it still.
: secondly, i don't follow your logic about badminton being "less fun" because
: the stronger player is forced to take turn with the weaker player? are you
: saying, that the fact that in badminton, in doubles, the stronger player
: can play more shots, makes the game more fun?
:
: away.
| m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 14 ok.
1. i disagree that in the proposed system, it would be less balanced. ie,
a high hand can still play with a low hand against two middle hands. maybe.
if you don't try it, it is hard to prove it you are right or I am wrong.
2. on your anlogy, i would continue to disagree. I can also say that a
team is as good as the better player. imagine, it's the high hand's turn,
it is as if he is playing singles against a middle hand player, on a doubles
court.
anyway, i am not saying i know for a fact. i just don't know for sure until
i've tried it.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: Of course, it makes an amateur double game more balanced.
: A high hand can couple with a low hand to play two middle
: hands.
: Think of our job. A more experienced coder can help the
: less experienced coder to fix bugs. If everyone must take
: care of his own sh*t. The team is as bad as the worst coder
: is.
:
: some
: because
| g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 15 Well, it's like playing mixed double against men's double.
Mixed double try to keep the female player in front court
and cover less area, you don't play an equal opportunity
style like men's double. With this rule change, you are
forced to do so. Of course the advantage is on the men's double
side, relatively speaking.
,
maybe.
doubles
until
【在 m****r 的大作中提到】
: ok.
: 1. i disagree that in the proposed system, it would be less balanced. ie,
: a high hand can still play with a low hand against two middle hands. maybe.
: if you don't try it, it is hard to prove it you are right or I am wrong.
: 2. on your anlogy, i would continue to disagree. I can also say that a
: team is as good as the better player. imagine, it's the high hand's turn,
: it is as if he is playing singles against a middle hand player, on a doubles
: court.
: anyway, i am not saying i know for a fact. i just don't know for sure until
: i've tried it.
| m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 16 i can also say, using today's rule, the MD pair can hit every shot to the
girl. now, they are foced to play to the stronger player every other shot.
advantage XD pair?!
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: Well, it's like playing mixed double against men's double.
: Mixed double try to keep the female player in front court
: and cover less area, you don't play an equal opportunity
: style like men's double. With this rule change, you are
: forced to do so. Of course the advantage is on the men's double
: side, relatively speaking.
:
: ,
: maybe.
: doubles
| g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 17 How? The girl is covering less area. It's harder to force the shot
to the girl, that's simple math.
Assume girl is 1, her partner is 3, her opponents are 2.
It's obvious the outcome depends on the percentage of shots
the girl takes.
.
【在 m****r 的大作中提到】
: i can also say, using today's rule, the MD pair can hit every shot to the
: girl. now, they are foced to play to the stronger player every other shot.
: advantage XD pair?!
| m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 18 so, in the "new system", the teams are exactly even at 4 each. isn't that
more "balanced"?
and if i remember correctly, it is you who said a few years ago, that when
you play mixed doubles, all you do is hit it to the girl?
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: How? The girl is covering less area. It's harder to force the shot
: to the girl, that's simple math.
: Assume girl is 1, her partner is 3, her opponents are 2.
: It's obvious the outcome depends on the percentage of shots
: the girl takes.
:
: .
| g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 19 No, because it's harder to make up for weak player. Thus it's
harder to make a balanced game. Think of a mixed double game,
the side that male player plays after the other team's male
player will have huge advantage in that point.
【在 m****r 的大作中提到】
: so, in the "new system", the teams are exactly even at 4 each. isn't that
: more "balanced"?
: and if i remember correctly, it is you who said a few years ago, that when
: you play mixed doubles, all you do is hit it to the girl?
| m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 20 as far as the stronger player is concerned, there are TWO weak players on
the other side. and there is only one weak player on this side.
anyway, i don't think you are going to convince me with this line of
reasoning. also, there is no reason to only consider the high/low vs.
middle/middle case.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: No, because it's harder to make up for weak player. Thus it's
: harder to make a balanced game. Think of a mixed double game,
: the side that male player plays after the other team's male
: player will have huge advantage in that point.
| | | l*********y
发帖数: 3447 | 21 所谓布法罗无骨鸡翅是专门面向70岁以上牙口不好老人的，它的存在并不等于它fun,只
是不得已才吃。
generally, charm of one sport origins from unexpection, surprise and
creativity. Pre defined rule (route) diminishes all these. So what you
proposed is not favored in all ball related sports except pingpang. The
reason of this rule in pingpang, as I said before, comes from avoiding
sinlge player dominate the game thus make the partner dispensible. So it is
more of a compromise rather than promotion of fun. It has nothing to do who
play more shots, it is where the birdie goes and who gets it.
it is like goes, it has minimum rule compared with chess, which makes it
fundamentally more mysterious and intricate.
some
because
you
【在 m****r 的大作中提到】
: first of all, boneless buffalo wings do exist in the real world, so, there
: is a definite demand for it. so, many some may think it is no fun, but some
: others would prefer it still.
: secondly, i don't follow your logic about badminton being "less fun" because
: the stronger player is forced to take turn with the weaker player? are you
: saying, that the fact that in badminton, in doubles, the stronger player
: can play more shots, makes the game more fun?
:
: away.
| l*********y
发帖数: 3447 | 22 "2. on your anlogy, i would continue to disagree. I can also say that a
doubles
this is not true. since "it's the high hand's turn,
doubles
one you propose) , so this argument would not help your stand that the new
system is more fun.
,
maybe.
doubles
until | l*********y
发帖数: 3447 | 23 你这到底是啥rule呀？规定一人一派还不够，怎么还得必须朝某一个人打？
改健身操得了。
.
【在 m****r 的大作中提到】
: i can also say, using today's rule, the MD pair can hit every shot to the
: girl. now, they are foced to play to the stronger player every other shot.
: advantage XD pair?!
| m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 24 today's rule. if you want to, you can hit every shot to the weaker player.
isn't that true?
【在 l*********y 的大作中提到】
: 你这到底是啥rule呀？规定一人一派还不够，怎么还得必须朝某一个人打？
: 改健身操得了。
:
: .
| m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 25 i don't understand because i can't tell what you are writing from what i
wrote.
【在 l*********y 的大作中提到】
: "2. on your anlogy, i would continue to disagree. I can also say that a
: doubles
: this is not true. since "it's the high hand's turn,
: doubles
: one you propose) , so this argument would not help your stand that the new
: system is more fun.
: ,
: maybe.
: doubles
: until
| m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 26 in mixed doubles GO, the two players take turns.
is
who
【在 l*********y 的大作中提到】
: 所谓布法罗无骨鸡翅是专门面向70岁以上牙口不好老人的，它的存在并不等于它fun,只
: 是不得已才吃。
: generally, charm of one sport origins from unexpection, surprise and
: creativity. Pre defined rule (route) diminishes all these. So what you
: proposed is not favored in all ball related sports except pingpang. The
: reason of this rule in pingpang, as I said before, comes from avoiding
: sinlge player dominate the game thus make the partner dispensible. So it is
: more of a compromise rather than promotion of fun. It has nothing to do who
: play more shots, it is where the birdie goes and who gets it.
: it is like goes, it has minimum rule compared with chess, which makes it
| m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 27 but in general, i do agree that less rules allows for more original ideas.
unless there's some intrisic flaws in the game itself such that makes a rule
necessary.
in the case for badminton, i don't think the current rule system is flawed
to a point where a rules change is needed. but I also do think that with
the proposed rule change, some very interesting strategary can be developed
that can open a whole new dimension for the game.
to be honest, i don't think there has been any real advancement for
badminton strategy, EVER. which, is really sad. if you take the game of
starcraft, people are literally inventing new strategies every day.
is
who
【在 l*********y 的大作中提到】
: 所谓布法罗无骨鸡翅是专门面向70岁以上牙口不好老人的，它的存在并不等于它fun,只
: 是不得已才吃。
: generally, charm of one sport origins from unexpection, surprise and
: creativity. Pre defined rule (route) diminishes all these. So what you
: proposed is not favored in all ball related sports except pingpang. The
: reason of this rule in pingpang, as I said before, comes from avoiding
: sinlge player dominate the game thus make the partner dispensible. So it is
: more of a compromise rather than promotion of fun. It has nothing to do who
: play more shots, it is where the birdie goes and who gets it.
: it is like goes, it has minimum rule compared with chess, which makes it
| b********s
发帖数: 1676 | 28 这太容易受伤了吧。如果别人老是往一个人身上打，会partern被活活拍死的。
【在 m****r 的大作中提到】
: 如果象乒乓球一样, 必须一人打一拍, 会好玩吗?
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