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发帖数: 5814 | 1 玩范大喜时经常对由ERROR而引起的Earned RUN不大明白，有懂的给解释一下吗？
我在网上找到一个例子，大家看看投手应该被CHARGE多少Earned Run？
- J. Vidro singled to shallow right
- K. Johjima singled to right, J. Vidro to second
- J. Lopez safe at first on C. Gaudin's fielding error, J. Vidro to third, K
. Johjima to second
- Y. Betancourt flied out to right
- I. Suzuki walked, J. Vidro scored, K. Johjima to third, J. Lopez to second
- A. Beltre struck out swinging
- R. Ibanez homered to deep right, I. Suzuki, J. Lopez and K. Johjima scored
- J. Guillen grounded out to second | a*****5
发帖数: 94 | 2 我觉得是0 ER.
没有error的话beltre的K是third out, inning over.
可是这个投手下一局接着投的话，Ibanez的homer可能要charge.
这一点不是很确定
玩范大喜时经常对由ERROR而引起的Earned RUN不大明白，有懂的给解释一下吗？我在
网上找到一个例子，大家看看投手应该被CHARGE多少Earned Run？- J. V........
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: 玩范大喜时经常对由ERROR而引起的Earned RUN不大明白，有懂的给解释一下吗？
: 我在网上找到一个例子，大家看看投手应该被CHARGE多少Earned Run？
: - J. Vidro singled to shallow right
: - K. Johjima singled to right, J. Vidro to second
: - J. Lopez safe at first on C. Gaudin's fielding error, J. Vidro to third, K
: . Johjima to second
: - Y. Betancourt flied out to right
: - I. Suzuki walked, J. Vidro scored, K. Johjima to third, J. Lopez to second
: - A. Beltre struck out swinging
: - R. Ibanez homered to deep right, I. Suzuki, J. Lopez and K. Johjima scored
| K**7
发帖数: 6610 | 3 不懂
不过我来猜一下
最后记了1ER？
K
second
scored
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: 玩范大喜时经常对由ERROR而引起的Earned RUN不大明白，有懂的给解释一下吗？
: 我在网上找到一个例子，大家看看投手应该被CHARGE多少Earned Run？
: - J. Vidro singled to shallow right
: - K. Johjima singled to right, J. Vidro to second
: - J. Lopez safe at first on C. Gaudin's fielding error, J. Vidro to third, K
: . Johjima to second
: - Y. Betancourt flied out to right
: - I. Suzuki walked, J. Vidro scored, K. Johjima to third, J. Lopez to second
: - A. Beltre struck out swinging
: - R. Ibanez homered to deep right, I. Suzuki, J. Lopez and K. Johjima scored
| n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 4 0 er
K
second
scored
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: 玩范大喜时经常对由ERROR而引起的Earned RUN不大明白，有懂的给解释一下吗？
: 我在网上找到一个例子，大家看看投手应该被CHARGE多少Earned Run？
: - J. Vidro singled to shallow right
: - K. Johjima singled to right, J. Vidro to second
: - J. Lopez safe at first on C. Gaudin's fielding error, J. Vidro to third, K
: . Johjima to second
: - Y. Betancourt flied out to right
: - I. Suzuki walked, J. Vidro scored, K. Johjima to third, J. Lopez to second
: - A. Beltre struck out swinging
: - R. Ibanez homered to deep right, I. Suzuki, J. Lopez and K. Johjima scored
| n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 5 without error, this is the sequence
K
1 out
2 outs
second
2 outs, bases loaded (no er)
3 outs, inning over.
scored
the grandslam should not have happened without the error. without error, the
bases loaded walk would not happen either.
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: 玩范大喜时经常对由ERROR而引起的Earned RUN不大明白，有懂的给解释一下吗？
: 我在网上找到一个例子，大家看看投手应该被CHARGE多少Earned Run？
: - J. Vidro singled to shallow right
: - K. Johjima singled to right, J. Vidro to second
: - J. Lopez safe at first on C. Gaudin's fielding error, J. Vidro to third, K
: . Johjima to second
: - Y. Betancourt flied out to right
: - I. Suzuki walked, J. Vidro scored, K. Johjima to third, J. Lopez to second
: - A. Beltre struck out swinging
: - R. Ibanez homered to deep right, I. Suzuki, J. Lopez and K. Johjima scored
| K**7
发帖数: 6610 | 6 鹦鹉你倒是说说最后到底记了几个ER？
the
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: without error, this is the sequence
:
: K
: 1 out
: 2 outs
: second
: 2 outs, bases loaded (no er)
: 3 outs, inning over.
: scored
: the grandslam should not have happened without the error. without error, the
| p****t
发帖数: 5814 | 7 标准答案是0 ER，以上几位解释没错，貌似MLB的规则就是这样，需要假设这个ERROR没
发生的情况下，后面发生的情况还是照旧，由于ERROR没发生，这个队员就是OUT，最后
就是K结束，IBANUZ就没机会来一记HR，因此所有这5R最后在比赛中被计为 0 ER，下面是
那场比赛的链接：
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=270918111&page=boxscore
IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA
C. Gaudin (L, 11-12) 4.0 8 8 3 1 3 1 4.52
那一局的5R最后没计任何ER
【在 K**7 的大作中提到】
: 鹦鹉你倒是说说最后到底记了几个ER？
:
: the
| t*a
发帖数: 18880 | 8 那不就木啥特别争议么...?
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: 标准答案是0 ER，以上几位解释没错，貌似MLB的规则就是这样，需要假设这个ERROR没
: 发生的情况下，后面发生的情况还是照旧，由于ERROR没发生，这个队员就是OUT，最后
: 就是K结束，IBANUZ就没机会来一记HR，因此所有这5R最后在比赛中被计为 0 ER，下面是
: 那场比赛的链接：
: https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=270918111&page=boxscore
: IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA
: C. Gaudin (L, 11-12) 4.0 8 8 3 1 3 1 4.52
: 那一局的5R最后没计任何ER
| p****t
发帖数: 5814 | 9 本来就没什么争议，只是一开始我对规则不是很熟悉，熟悉了自然就知道怎么算了，不
过这个算法其实不科学，这5个RUN中，SP对其中4个是有责任的，就是因为规则，
最后SP占便宜了。
【在 t*a 的大作中提到】
: 那不就木啥特别争议么...?
| p****t
发帖数: 5814 | 10 前面那个现在看来简单了，来个难的，大家看看SP和两个RP各有几个ER吧，我看的是晕
头转向，自己都快解释不通了，看来MLB规则真是博大精深啊：
Brewers fifth.
West pitching.
McGehee grounded out, third baseman E.Bonifacio to first baseman Cantu.
R.Braun safe at first on fielding error by shortstop H.Ramirez.
Fielder singled to center, R.Braun to second.
Penn pitching.
M.Cameron walked, R.Braun to third, Fielder to second.
Hardy grounded into fielder's choice, third baseman E.Bonifacio to catcher J
.Baker, Fielder to third, M.Cameron to second, Hardy to first, R.Braun out.
B.Hall walked, Fielder scored, M.Cameron to third, Hardy to second.
Kendall walked on a full count, M.Cameron scored, Hardy to third, B.Hall to
second.
Looper walked, Hardy scored, B.Hall to third, Kendall to second.
Sanches pitching.
C.Hart safe at first on throwing error by third baseman E.Bonifacio, B.Hall
scored, Kendall to third, Looper to second.
McGehee doubled to left, Kendall scored, Looper scored, C.Hart to third.
R.Braun struck out
SP: West
RP：Penn
RP：Sanches | | | t*a
发帖数: 18880 | 11 对,有投手更换时候麻烦事情才多:P
J
to
Hall
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: 前面那个现在看来简单了，来个难的，大家看看SP和两个RP各有几个ER吧，我看的是晕
: 头转向，自己都快解释不通了，看来MLB规则真是博大精深啊：
: Brewers fifth.
: West pitching.
: McGehee grounded out, third baseman E.Bonifacio to first baseman Cantu.
: R.Braun safe at first on fielding error by shortstop H.Ramirez.
: Fielder singled to center, R.Braun to second.
: Penn pitching.
: M.Cameron walked, R.Braun to third, Fielder to second.
: Hardy grounded into fielder's choice, third baseman E.Bonifacio to catcher J
| l*****a
发帖数: 3630 | 12 花那么多时间研究复杂情况的ER真没必要，ERA本来就是一个垃圾数据，不如看看DIPS.
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: 本来就没什么争议，只是一开始我对规则不是很熟悉，熟悉了自然就知道怎么算了，不
: 过这个算法其实不科学，这5个RUN中，SP对其中4个是有责任的，就是因为规则，
: 最后SP占便宜了。
| n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 13 no one has an ER.
The Braun out was a
fielder's choice, which means it is the third out. No run was scored before
this third out, so no ER for anyone.
J
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: 前面那个现在看来简单了，来个难的，大家看看SP和两个RP各有几个ER吧，我看的是晕
: 头转向，自己都快解释不通了，看来MLB规则真是博大精深啊：
: Brewers fifth.
: West pitching.
: McGehee grounded out, third baseman E.Bonifacio to first baseman Cantu.
: R.Braun safe at first on fielding error by shortstop H.Ramirez.
: Fielder singled to center, R.Braun to second.
: Penn pitching.
: M.Cameron walked, R.Braun to third, Fielder to second.
: Hardy grounded into fielder's choice, third baseman E.Bonifacio to catcher J
| p****t
发帖数: 5814 | 14 不完全对，再想想，看看规则。
before
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: no one has an ER.
: The Braun out was a
: fielder's choice, which means it is the third out. No run was scored before
: this third out, so no ER for anyone.
:
: J
| t*a
发帖数: 18880 | 15 我也记得多投手局面后面投手放安达多了有问题...
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: 不完全对，再想想，看看规则。
:
: before
| R*****w
发帖数: 8634 | | n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 17 嗯。看到三个out就没再朝下看。这个inning太夸张了。:)
【在 t*a 的大作中提到】
: 我也记得多投手局面后面投手放安达多了有问题...
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