K********t
发帖数: 2644 | 1 Here's a few guards Jordan had to go through as the LEADER of his six rings
and MVPs compared to Kobe as the LEADER of his one ring one MVP.
Jordan: Isiah, Dumars, Magic, Byron Scott, Drexler, Terry Porter, Reggie
Miller, Tim Hardaway, Pennie, Starks, Gary Payton, Stockton, Bryon Russell,
Kevin Johnson, Dan Marjle, and the Wilkins brothers.
Kobe: Deron Williams, J.R. Smith, Billups, Utah and Orlando's starting 2
guards (forgot the names), Aaron Brooks, Battier, Skip 2 My Lou, and Pietrus.
Now, t | K****4
发帖数: 118 | 2 靠，原来又是无间道，你列的那么一堆人里，除了防守不错的是一个6尺3的托马斯，哪
个算有点名气的？
rings
,
Pietrus.
..
【在 K********t 的大作中提到】
: Here's a few guards Jordan had to go through as the LEADER of his six rings
: and MVPs compared to Kobe as the LEADER of his one ring one MVP.
: Jordan: Isiah, Dumars, Magic, Byron Scott, Drexler, Terry Porter, Reggie
: Miller, Tim Hardaway, Pennie, Starks, Gary Payton, Stockton, Bryon Russell,
: Kevin Johnson, Dan Marjle, and the Wilkins brothers.
: Kobe: Deron Williams, J.R. Smith, Billups, Utah and Orlando's starting 2
: guards (forgot the names), Aaron Brooks, Battier, Skip 2 My Lou, and Pietrus.
: Now, t
| g*m
发帖数: 4659 | 3 Almost all are reputable defenders.
Stockton, Kevin Johnson were really tough, better than anyone Kobe has to
face.
Not to mention Gary, the only other guard to win DPOY aside from MJ in the
last 25 years.
【在 K****4 的大作中提到】
: 靠，原来又是无间道，你列的那么一堆人里，除了防守不错的是一个6尺3的托马斯，哪
: 个算有点名气的？
:
: rings
: ,
: Pietrus.
: ..
| g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 4 LOL, anyone 6-4 and below has no chance against Kobe,
Kobe will just rise over them.
This includes toughest opponent MJ ever faced, Dumars, 6-3.
Stockton was 6-1 and never guard MJ. Gary was 6-4 too and gave
MJ a tough time in 96 finals. Kevin Johnson was 6-1.
Stock, KJ would guard Kobe as well as Aaron Brooks.
And when was the last time a Kobe's main defender was below 6-5?
You can't teach height. The successful defense against Kobe would
be, use a tall defender to close up (Prince, PP), use a
【在 g*m 的大作中提到】
: Almost all are reputable defenders.
: Stockton, Kevin Johnson were really tough, better than anyone Kobe has to
: face.
: Not to mention Gary, the only other guard to win DPOY aside from MJ in the
: last 25 years.
| m*******r
发帖数: 2044 | | K********t
发帖数: 2644 | 6 Lee 多高啊
总决赛让科比给爽的阿 而且还是个处
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: LOL, anyone 6-4 and below has no chance against Kobe,
: Kobe will just rise over them.
: This includes toughest opponent MJ ever faced, Dumars, 6-3.
: Stockton was 6-1 and never guard MJ. Gary was 6-4 too and gave
: MJ a tough time in 96 finals. Kevin Johnson was 6-1.
: Stock, KJ would guard Kobe as well as Aaron Brooks.
: And when was the last time a Kobe's main defender was below 6-5?
: You can't teach height. The successful defense against Kobe would
: be, use a tall defender to close up (Prince, PP), use a
| p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 7 they may be tough mentally, or technically, or both.
But hey, stockton is like 6-1, kevin johnson is some 6-3 or less.
That's a 3+in differential and that's end of story.
【在 g*m 的大作中提到】
: Almost all are reputable defenders.
: Stockton, Kevin Johnson were really tough, better than anyone Kobe has to
: face.
: Not to mention Gary, the only other guard to win DPOY aside from MJ in the
: last 25 years.
| b*****e
发帖数: 1125 | 8 Reggie Miller 6-7
Penny Hardway 6-7
Magic: 6-9
Bryon Russell: 6-7
Dominique Wilkins: 6-8
你这不是选择性失明吗？以上这些不是比MJ高就是比他壮的，技术上名气上都要比防KB
的菜鸟们高不知道多少档次了。
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】
: they may be tough mentally, or technically, or both.
: But hey, stockton is like 6-1, kevin johnson is some 6-3 or less.
: That's a 3+in differential and that's end of story.
| g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 9 Let me see, Reggier miller never made all defensive team,
neither did Hardway, neither did magic, neither did Russel,
neither did wilkins. Is this supposed to be a Joke?
None of them were even close to Battier/Artest defensively.
KB
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: Reggie Miller 6-7
: Penny Hardway 6-7
: Magic: 6-9
: Bryon Russell: 6-7
: Dominique Wilkins: 6-8
: 你这不是选择性失明吗？以上这些不是比MJ高就是比他壮的，技术上名气上都要比防KB
: 的菜鸟们高不知道多少档次了。
| n*******s
发帖数: 166 | 10 科轮发疯了
连payton都没名气了
payton限制mj做的非常好了 几乎没有人比他做的更好了
很简单 就可以看 比mj高的Mj 都能轻松打爆 比较克mj的还是Payton这种 小而强悍的 | | | g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 11 可见MJ同时代防守太烂呀，6-4及以下防科比防得不错的举一个例子看看？
的
【在 n*******s 的大作中提到】
: 科轮发疯了
: 连payton都没名气了
: payton限制mj做的非常好了 几乎没有人比他做的更好了
: 很简单 就可以看 比mj高的Mj 都能轻松打爆 比较克mj的还是Payton这种 小而强悍的
| n*******s
发帖数: 166 | 12 恩 我也这么觉得 gary payton放到现在 也就是个得分能力减弱版 ab吧
kobe放到mj同时代 平均50+20+ 10+绝对不是梦
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: 可见MJ同时代防守太烂呀，6-4及以下防科比防得不错的举一个例子看看？
:
: 的
| g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 13 言重了，gary其实是个得分加强版shannon brown. 虽然防SG不灵，
但人是PG，防PG还是很有一手的。
【在 n*******s 的大作中提到】
: 恩 我也这么觉得 gary payton放到现在 也就是个得分能力减弱版 ab吧
: kobe放到mj同时代 平均50+20+ 10+绝对不是梦
| b*****e
发帖数: 53215 | 14 kobe最吃亏的是一直在打天顶星联赛
作为一个普通人类，比较吃亏
【在 n*******s 的大作中提到】
: 恩 我也这么觉得 gary payton放到现在 也就是个得分能力减弱版 ab吧
: kobe放到mj同时代 平均50+20+ 10+绝对不是梦
| n*******s
发帖数: 166 | 15 这倒是 湖人 除了Kobe其他队员都像猪一样 不是kobe罩着 cba都打不聊
最多打一下 毛里求斯或者越南 联赛吧
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: 言重了，gary其实是个得分加强版shannon brown. 虽然防SG不灵，
: 但人是PG，防PG还是很有一手的。
| f**********n
发帖数: 10757 | 16 呵呵，ray allen入选过防守第几队阿？ 不把科比搞得吐血，最后不得不让fisher防守
，dumars之所以防守mj还不错，不光是防守，还要有攻击的能力，让mj在防守端也消耗
很多，allen也一样，这个你还不懂？
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: Let me see, Reggier miller never made all defensive team,
: neither did Hardway, neither did magic, neither did Russel,
: neither did wilkins. Is this supposed to be a Joke?
: None of them were even close to Battier/Artest defensively.
:
: KB
| g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 17 不是那么简单吧，是防守Allen, PP, Posey车轮战，KG放Odom远投在里面堵。
另一边Allen跟兔子一样满地乱跑，要吗Radma被PP爆，要吗上Sasha被Allen
爆，就这样，PP也就整了一个跟科比数据相当。
Joe Dumars跟Allen的巅峰得分能力还不在一个档次上。MJ当年还有Pippen
负责帮他从1搞到3.
【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，ray allen入选过防守第几队阿？ 不把科比搞得吐血，最后不得不让fisher防守
: ，dumars之所以防守mj还不错，不光是防守，还要有攻击的能力，让mj在防守端也消耗
: 很多，allen也一样，这个你还不懂？
| s*******i
发帖数: 12823 | 18 有些轮子真的很轮啊
50+20+10都来了,Kobe估计是天顶星来的
还是去打天顶星联赛吧 | n*******s
发帖数: 166 | 19 这怎么轮子了 公认的 百度kobe吧公认的 那时候的防守球员又矮又瘦小 营养不良 Mj
这种放在现在也就average的水平都能得37分 现在Kobe回去怎么会没有50分 你才是乔
仑
【在 s*******i 的大作中提到】
: 有些轮子真的很轮啊
: 50+20+10都来了,Kobe估计是天顶星来的
: 还是去打天顶星联赛吧
| s*******i
发帖数: 12823 | 20 您说啥就啥了...我回地球去了
Mj
【在 n*******s 的大作中提到】
: 这怎么轮子了 公认的 百度kobe吧公认的 那时候的防守球员又矮又瘦小 营养不良 Mj
: 这种放在现在也就average的水平都能得37分 现在Kobe回去怎么会没有50分 你才是乔
: 仑
| | | g*m
发帖数: 4659 | 21 Artest is damn slow now.
Battier is 30+, also pretty slow.
Next time please use Yao Ming as a counter example. So much taller and
stronger than Bryant, yet cant catch him on foot.
My last reply to the Bryant and Jordan comparison. It's a blatant crime to
even put Bryant and MJ in the same sentence other than MJ is so much
better than Bryant!!!
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: Let me see, Reggier miller never made all defensive team,
: neither did Hardway, neither did magic, neither did Russel,
: neither did wilkins. Is this supposed to be a Joke?
: None of them were even close to Battier/Artest defensively.
:
: KB
| S****Y
发帖数: 4634 | 22 你说过stockton比所有defend kobe的都要强，defense方面，你standby这个statement?
【在 g*m 的大作中提到】
: Artest is damn slow now.
: Battier is 30+, also pretty slow.
: Next time please use Yao Ming as a counter example. So much taller and
: stronger than Bryant, yet cant catch him on foot.
: My last reply to the Bryant and Jordan comparison. It's a blatant crime to
: even put Bryant and MJ in the same sentence other than MJ is so much
: better than Bryant!!!
| g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 23 天顶星人的行为艺术地球人看不懂是正常的。
statement?
【在 S****Y 的大作中提到】
: 你说过stockton比所有defend kobe的都要强，defense方面，你standby这个statement?
| S****Y
发帖数: 4634 | 24 昨天就想上来说了，破mit上来发不了post.
我想知道stockton是不是真的比shane battier, ron artest, pp, prince都要强
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: 天顶星人的行为艺术地球人看不懂是正常的。
:
: statement?
| g*m
发帖数: 4659 | 25 of course.
all time steals leader says it.
Top 3 defensive pg in the history.
【在 S****Y 的大作中提到】
: 昨天就想上来说了，破mit上来发不了post.
: 我想知道stockton是不是真的比shane battier, ron artest, pp, prince都要强
| g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 26 stockton属于很聪明很脏的球员，防PG放得不错。但是只有6-1，
防科比比Aaron Brooks只能强点有限。当年爵士也是用Russell去防
乔丹。sloan不是天顶星人。
【在 S****Y 的大作中提到】
: 昨天就想上来说了，破mit上来发不了post.
: 我想知道stockton是不是真的比shane battier, ron artest, pp, prince都要强
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