i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 1 lin sucked against miami and sucked against the celtics. fact. but he played
decently well in this game. ANYONE who actually WATCHED the game would know
that this loss had NOTHING to do with j-lin. he should have had at least 5
assists in the first quarter alone. he set up stat, melo, and chandler with
gimme layups and they BLEW THEM ALL. the worst was chandler getting a
beautiful setup pass from lin and then getting stuffed by the rim. amare
missed point blank layups at the rim and melo was just horrendous. watch the
game and count how many assists were blown by the finishers right at the
basket.
novak is a stud, harrelson and shump PLAY DEFENSE--that by the way is why
the second team is so good. baron davis and jr smith have nothing to do with
it. they both played HORRENDOUSLY tonight. |
r***k
发帖数: 13586 | |
s********g
发帖数: 124 | 3 挺对的，可以计算一下有效的造成进攻良机的传球和助攻数。哪里有这种统计看啊？ |
s********g
发帖数: 124 | |
e***t
发帖数: 14386 | 5 nba我看倒霉就倒霉在数据统计上了
像棒球那是全场无数个反复play，数据意义大
橄榄球也差不多
篮球足球什么的，一个play多少次配合，变化太多了
【在 s********g 的大作中提到】
: 足球统计里面还有传球数和威胁传球数统计的。
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s********g
发帖数: 124 | 6 那是不是说棒球的moneyball更可行，足篮球还是有很多东西数据看不出来？
【在 e***t 的大作中提到】
: nba我看倒霉就倒霉在数据统计上了
: 像棒球那是全场无数个反复play，数据意义大
: 橄榄球也差不多
: 篮球足球什么的，一个play多少次配合，变化太多了
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l***o
发帖数: 1111 | 7 谢谢转发！问一下，这是从哪儿转过来的，有网址吗？
played
know
5
with
the
【在 i*********r 的大作中提到】
: lin sucked against miami and sucked against the celtics. fact. but he played
: decently well in this game. ANYONE who actually WATCHED the game would know
: that this loss had NOTHING to do with j-lin. he should have had at least 5
: assists in the first quarter alone. he set up stat, melo, and chandler with
: gimme layups and they BLEW THEM ALL. the worst was chandler getting a
: beautiful setup pass from lin and then getting stuffed by the rim. amare
: missed point blank layups at the rim and melo was just horrendous. watch the
: game and count how many assists were blown by the finishers right at the
: basket.
: novak is a stud, harrelson and shump PLAY DEFENSE--that by the way is why
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m*****a
发帖数: 266 | 8 不知这位哪里转的。这里有个knicks hard fan的网站。
http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/forum.asp?f=2
【在 l***o 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢转发！问一下，这是从哪儿转过来的，有网址吗？
:
: played
: know
: 5
: with
: the
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l*********2
发帖数: 275 | 9 挺客观的，很多漂亮的助攻，貌似必进的球，队友都没有放进去，真的是很可惜。不然
他的助攻都不止10个。
另外，阵地战中大家都不跑，怎么传球。。。 |
e***t
发帖数: 14386 | 10 我觉得是。
棒球具体数据不太懂，但是像打击率或者投手成功率这些基本可以算是一些大样本重复
事件。团队配合因素不是很显著。而接球传球什么的也比较清楚，比如一个球没传好，
是传的人责任大还是接的人责任大，容易看出来。
橄榄球就相对复杂一点，但是毕竟每个play也可以看做是重复事件，攻方主要也就由两
三个传递构成。
而篮球、足球、冰球这种的，数据的实际意义就更值得商榷了。像足球里数据的地位就
没那么高，也没有谁去刻意提高自己的数据，因为没人看。而篮球从看球的到打球的都
有些过分stats obsessed了。但问题是篮球现在的数据统计又很粗略片面。如果像stl,
blk什么的都统计了，我看也应该统计1on1防守成功率，或者set pick的成功率，意义更
大。
【在 s********g 的大作中提到】
: 那是不是说棒球的moneyball更可行，足篮球还是有很多东西数据看不出来？
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