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h********n
发帖数: 4079
1
Harold Vamus cut the proportion of intramural research (used to be about 15%
of NCI budget) and moved the money to help grant (extramural). Basically
all Lab and branch will have about 10% cut. The next fiscal year will be
similar if not worse.
The stimulus fund created grants but it was discontinued. Some grants will
also be discontinued. This is why NCI intramural have 10% cut, which is
higher than other institutes in NIH.
Typically in a Lab (including a few PI) or Branch (typically larger than Lab
) of CCR (NCI intramural research), 2/3 of budget is salary/stipend and 1/3
is supply money. The 10% cut in total will have to result in position cut.
y******8
发帖数: 1764
2
IMHO, NIH should not have a tenure-track system, which make sense for PIs
without teaching and grant burdens. Meanwhile, NIH could have better
scientists and save a lot of money.
O******e
发帖数: 4845
3
NIH的内部实验室太多了,相对于贡献来说,给的钱真是太多太多了

15%
Lab
3

【在 h********n 的大作中提到】
: Harold Vamus cut the proportion of intramural research (used to be about 15%
: of NCI budget) and moved the money to help grant (extramural). Basically
: all Lab and branch will have about 10% cut. The next fiscal year will be
: similar if not worse.
: The stimulus fund created grants but it was discontinued. Some grants will
: also be discontinued. This is why NCI intramural have 10% cut, which is
: higher than other institutes in NIH.
: Typically in a Lab (including a few PI) or Branch (typically larger than Lab
: ) of CCR (NCI intramural research), 2/3 of budget is salary/stipend and 1/3
: is supply money. The 10% cut in total will have to result in position cut.

l****l
发帖数: 42
4
50% cut is more appropriate for NIH intramura. They are wasting too much
money.
l****l
发帖数: 42
5
50% cut is more appropriate for NIH intramura. They are wasting too much
money.
h********n
发帖数: 4079
6
I would say intramural should do following research because they don't worry
money as extramural:
1. high risk
2. high cost
3. rare disease
BTW, when calculating money, please notice that the indirect cost of a grans
is 90-100% of direct cost and indirect cost goes to school to improve
facility. In NIH, there is no indirect or direct cost, everything is in
budget.

【在 l****l 的大作中提到】
: 50% cut is more appropriate for NIH intramura. They are wasting too much
: money.

y******8
发帖数: 1764
7
Most univeristies and medical schools have indirect cost rate as 30-67%.Only
a small portion of pure research institutes like Whitehead or Salk have >90
% rates.
NIH's intramural research was good in 60s and 70s. I think NIH just need to
adopt some mechanism to remove those lousy PIs.

worry
grans

【在 h********n 的大作中提到】
: I would say intramural should do following research because they don't worry
: money as extramural:
: 1. high risk
: 2. high cost
: 3. rare disease
: BTW, when calculating money, please notice that the indirect cost of a grans
: is 90-100% of direct cost and indirect cost goes to school to improve
: facility. In NIH, there is no indirect or direct cost, everything is in
: budget.

h********n
发帖数: 4079
8
good point.
Some if not many schools have indirect cost more than 90%, as far as I know.
I think NIH research has been better after "site visit" and BSC (Board of
Scientific Counselors) come to evaluate investigator's performance.
Lab/Branch chief used to be very powerful to evaluate PIs. But now BSC
plays important role in evaluating PI. In CCR (where most NCI intramural
research is conducted), 95% percent of decision of BSC will be accept by CCR
director. The site visit committees are organized by BSC and all are from
outside, they gave quite critical comments to investigators in NCI.

Only
90
to

【在 y******8 的大作中提到】
: Most univeristies and medical schools have indirect cost rate as 30-67%.Only
: a small portion of pure research institutes like Whitehead or Salk have >90
: % rates.
: NIH's intramural research was good in 60s and 70s. I think NIH just need to
: adopt some mechanism to remove those lousy PIs.
:
: worry
: grans

M*****n
发帖数: 16729
9
what? 90% ICR?
OMG

Only
90
to

【在 y******8 的大作中提到】
: Most univeristies and medical schools have indirect cost rate as 30-67%.Only
: a small portion of pure research institutes like Whitehead or Salk have >90
: % rates.
: NIH's intramural research was good in 60s and 70s. I think NIH just need to
: adopt some mechanism to remove those lousy PIs.
:
: worry
: grans

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