k******0
发帖数: 1073 | 1 饶毅自己还遮遮掩掩，似有难言之隐，但指出了学生物的都知道这“秘密”。
哪位给解解惑？ | b*******0
发帖数: 125 | | s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 3 哦。。。这么一说，的确他很有咸鱼。
而且饶还在好几次说过年老的院士最好自动退居二线算了，你这么一说。。。
特别像就是针对那个人说的话。
【在 b*******0 的大作中提到】
: 以前 饶同蒲 从神经所 开除的那位院士？
| p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 4 李朝义要搞也是搞蒲 搞不到饶头上吧 我猜
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 哦。。。这么一说，的确他很有咸鱼。
: 而且饶还在好几次说过年老的院士最好自动退居二线算了，你这么一说。。。
: 特别像就是针对那个人说的话。
| s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 5 说不定蒲就故意坚决不去申请这个院士，
然后他怎么等都等不到这个机会，等啊等都快要憋死了，
只好先拿饶来开个刀小小出一口气先？
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 李朝义要搞也是搞蒲 搞不到饶头上吧 我猜
| G******O
发帖数: 189 | 6 没什么证据吧。。。
看这篇博克文章好像很多年前很多人都看不惯他，不知道对现在有没有影响
http://blog.51.ca/u-244737/?p=400
【在 b*******0 的大作中提到】
: 以前 饶同蒲 从神经所 开除的那位院士？
| G******O
发帖数: 189 | 7 蒲就故意坚决不去申请这个院士？？这个也。。。
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 说不定蒲就故意坚决不去申请这个院士，
: 然后他怎么等都等不到这个机会，等啊等都快要憋死了，
: 只好先拿饶来开个刀小小出一口气先？
| O******e
发帖数: 4845 | 8 你当拍连续剧啊？呵呵
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 说不定蒲就故意坚决不去申请这个院士，
: 然后他怎么等都等不到这个机会，等啊等都快要憋死了，
: 只好先拿饶来开个刀小小出一口气先？
| j*****d
发帖数: 787 | 9 interesting story .hahaha
旧案：中国科学院院士被解聘
已有 1110 次阅读 2011-4-3 16:27 |个人分类:另眼看中国|系统分类:海外观察
近日在读美国外交关系委员会（Council on Foreign Relations）的史国力（Adam
Segal）博士的新著《优势：美国创新如何战胜亚洲的挑战》(Advantage: How
American Innovation Can Overcome the Asian Challenge, New York: Norton, 2011
)。书里在讲述海归对中国科技体制改革的贡献时，提到了中国科学院神经所的一桩旧
案。
记得曾从《科学时报》上读到过“记中科院上海神经所所长蒲慕明：但求慈航心中渡”
的专访，蒲慕明提到：“一位资深研究员因为不肯接受国际专家的学术评估，我们不得
不终止他的聘书。”
“记中科院上海神经所所长蒲慕明：但求慈航心中渡”的链接：http://news.sciencenet.cn/htmlnews/2010/1/227542.shtm?id=227542
究竟哪个“资深研究员”被“终止”了，包括笔者在内的读者多有猜测，但显然都不对。
史国力的著作讲述了这个故事，称来源是蒲慕明发到国立浙江大学网站上的Email。那
位不肯接受的资深研究员居然是中国科学院院士，他认为，当选中科院院士足以证明他
在中国科学界的领袖地位，所以没有必要参加“评审”。他还认为，他的院士资格保障
他永远有从事科学研究的权利。但蒲给他两个选择，要么参加评审，要么接受一个荣誉
职位，享受相同的工资待遇，但他将不再担任实验室主任。
In an email purportedly from Poo and posted on a Chekiang (Zhejiang)
University discussion board, he informed the director of a lab, who was
refusing to submit to an internal academic review, that he would have to
remove him. In his email response, the director claimed that his election to
the Chinese Academy of Sciences was proof enough of his leadership in the
scientific community to make him not subject to review. Moreover, the
scientist believed that his exalted position as an academician guaranteed
his right to continue his research activity indefinitely. Unmoved, Poo
offered two choices: show up for the review, or accept an honorary position
with the same level of salary, a move that would effectively terminate his
position as lab head. (Advantage, p. 69)
在讲这个故事时，史国力没有说院士是谁，但给出了一个出处。从Email exchange可以
看到，那个院士是李朝义，他以身体原因不参加国际评审，但蒲慕明说他在身体健康时
就曾以“院士”和“有永远从事科研的权利”挑战蒲，尽管他在当时加入神经所时承诺
参加国际评审。当然，结果是：虽然蒲慕明不能剥夺李朝义的院士荣誉称号，但还是解
除了他的PI一职。
资深研究员被终止聘书的链接：http://www.ncku1897.net/post/topic.aspx?tid=2759497。
[转帖]美国教授蒲慕明逼中国科学院院士李朝义退休
送交者: 朱铁 2007年1月16日05:20:54 于 [教育与学术]http://www.bbsland.com
美国教授蒲慕明，空中飞人，做中国科学院上海神经研究所所长。李朝义院士，神经所
研究员。
2005年蒲慕明和李朝义发生冲突。蒲慕明和李朝义的电子邮件发给全所研究员（heads@
ion.ac.cn）。流传甚广。终于流传到网上。
From: "CY Li"
Reply-To: c**[email protected]
To: "heads"
Cc: "gpei" , "kxchen" ,
"wujr" , "bwtang"
神经所各位PI，
现将我写给蒲慕明信件的全文转发给大加，请大家仔细阅读，就不难发现他是如何对我
信的内容进行断章取义，有意向大家隐瞒我的病情以及医生对我的告诫，并无理地逼迫
大家向他本人表态，借以对我施加压力，来达到他强迫我提前退休的不可告人的目的（
根据国加法律中国科学院院士是终身职位，可工作到80岁后转为资深院士）。无论蒲今
后采取何种手段，我在近几年内绝不会离开神经所，更不会如他期望的那样同时将属于
我的基金和仪器设备非法地转到他的名下。我的全部国家基金项目将继续进行下去，直
到这些项目完成为止。根据事态的发展情况（包括蒲的表现），今后如果有必要，我将
向大家展示更多的细节和证据。我保留向党中央和国家最高领导人对蒲慕明侵犯李朝义
院士人权，和进行人身迫害，提出申诉的权利。
专此。
中科院院士 李朝义
2005年6月5日
---------------
尊敬的蒲慕明所长,
关于我的健康状况前些时候我已经同您详谈过了。 去年我突发大面积心肌梗死， 随后
又发生脑梗塞，在医院的大力抢救下才获得了第二次生命, 直到现在尚处于病休之中。
负责治疗我的心脏科和神经内科主任以及其他医院的会诊专家们都一再告诫我, 对于像
我这样发生过如此大面积心肌梗死的患者, 相当大的一部分心肌已发生了不可逆转的改
变，目前能够做到的是在近一、二年内争取我心脏功能能够获得部分的代偿。因此，我
心脏的功能能够恢复到什么程度，今明两年将是最关键的时期。在此期间内，医生们强
烈地要求我要最大限度地减轻工作上的负荷，充分休息，特别强调要避免一切精神刺激
和心理上的压力。根据我目前的病情，显然，在今年要求我参加像“评议”、“考核”
之类的活动是极不合适的。希望能够得到您的理解。
尽管如此，我可以在此表示，即便是在我目前带病工作的情况下, 我一定能够带领我研
究组的全体人员，夺回因我生病而被耽误的时间，努力工作, 争取在不久之后，用我们
的实际成绩交出一份满意的答卷。在今后适当时机，我将十分乐意接受一个由国际视觉
领域顶级科学家组成的评审委员会对我的工作进行评定。
致礼！
李朝义
2005年6月4日
--------------------------
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005
To: "CY Li"
From: Mu-Ming Poo
Subject: PI review
Cc: "Gang Pei" , ,
, ,
Dear Prof. Li:
I have received your letter expressing your intention not to participate in
this year's academic review of ION PIs & laboratories. As I explained to you
on numerous occasions, I cannot change the principle that every laboratory
in operation in ION must be reviewed on a regular basis. Over the past year,
even before your health problem, you have openly stated in a PI meeting and
in numerous discussions with me that you object to the review of your
laboratory, based on two reasons: (1) Academicians of CAS are proven by the
Chinese scientific community to be the leader in their field, thus should
not be reviewed by an international committee, and (2) the academicians have
the right guaranteed by CAS to continue research activity indefinitely.
However, the CAS "no retirement" rule for academicians does not imply that
they can continue to run a laboratory indefinitely without proper review. In
fact, it is agreed by every PI when he/she joins ION, including yourself,
that all PIs will accept the 4th-year review for investigators and 6th-year
review for senior investigators.
With regard to your health, I have indeed been very concerned about your
health and whether your condition allows you to supervise the research of
your students. Your students have been very concerned about their future and
the morale of your group has been extremely
low, as the prospect of their graduating on time is diminishing. After
careful consideration of my responsibilities to you and your students as the
ION director, I offered you the solution that will waive you from
participating in the review, namely, to accept the Honorary Investigator
position, keep exactly the same level of salary and your office, but
terminate your lab head position by June 1. You had agreed with this
arrangement and xxxxally announced it, even as late as May 21 of this year.
By June 1, however, you suddenly broke the agreement unilaterally and
announced that you want to continue to run your laboratory. Your action has
left me no choice but to ask you again to participate in this year's review
process. The health issue is a new issue, but now has become your main
argument for not participating in the review this year. However, as you are
fully aware, you always have the option not to be present during the site
visit of the review team, should your health conditions not permit you to do
so, but your laboratory activity and research program can still be reviewed.
In any case, I am very sorry to learn that you do not intend to participate
in the review this year. If you do change your mind again, you can still
send me an e-mail note (or fax 510-642-2544) stating explicitly that you "
will participate in this year's PI review according to the standard ION
procedure", before noon Monday June 6 (Shanghai time, when I have to inxxxx
our International Advisory Board for the assembly of the review team).
Without the above explicit statement, I will have to interpret that you have
decided not to participate in the review this year.
Sincerely yours,
Mu-ming Poo
Director, ION
P.S. Your accusation of my personal (or Dr. Yang Dan's) intention on your
fund and equipment is so ridiculous that it does not deserve my response.
However, since your accusation is open to all ION Lab Heads and the SIBS
leadership, I have to make a simple and to-the-point response, in defense of
my reputation (and that of Dr. Dan, your guest investigator for four years).
Over the past several years, my efforts and Dr. Dan's efforts in helping
your research projects (in a manner that has always been most respectful to
you) have been impeccable and can be testified by all of your students (
including those who have graduated). Your constant strict orders to your
students not to take any well-intended suggestions from Dr. Dan on your
students' projects have resulted in Dr. Dan's withdrawal from any
interaction with your students in the past two years with the exception of
one student, whose research activity barely allows the CAS-funded guest
investigator program (under your name as a "collaborator") to continue as
proposed to CAS. Even under such difficult circumstances, Dr. Dan managed to
provide extensive help while you were hospitalized late last year on the
publication of your two most recent papers by two of your students, one of
which (Xu Weifeng) was on the verge of losing the eligibility for his Ph.D
diploma. This fact is well-recognized and acknowledged by all of your
students.
My order to the ION staff to carry out equipment inventory on the first week
of June was based on your agreement on the termination of your lab head
position by June 1. By any measure, this is a necessary step for me as the
ION director to organize the research efforts of the students in order to
ensure successful completion of their thesis projects and, by accepting the
Honorary Investigator position, you no longer had the authority over
research funds and the equipment. In my order to the ION staff, I
specifically mentioned the "expensive" piece of the newly-bought equipment,
because one of your xxxxer students Xu Shengjin proposed a thesis project in
May, which was approved by the Ph.D qualification exam committee, that
requires the use of this piece of equipment. To me as a scientist, it is
absolutely unreasonable to spend such a large amount of taxpayer's money on
an expensive piece of equipment, but keep it in the office to prevent a
student from carrying out the research.
P.S. (to ION Laboratory Heads)
For the interests of ION, I request that my e-mail communications to Prof.
Li not to be circulated outside ION and to ION students. However, in the
event that Prof. Li continues his open accusation, I am always prepared to
defend myself.
【在 b*******0 的大作中提到】
: 以前 饶同蒲 从神经所 开除的那位院士？
| B********e
发帖数: 21 | 10 当年，蒲和李联手挤掉生理所，然后没过两年李就被干掉了， 嘻嘻 | | | t****p
发帖数: 1504 | 11 优胜劣汰，能者上位是最正确的方向。
躺在功劳簿上不做事或者做不了事，这是中国的很多症结之所在。
【在 B********e 的大作中提到】
: 当年，蒲和李联手挤掉生理所，然后没过两年李就被干掉了， 嘻嘻
| q****2
发帖数: 208 | 12 Mark
interesting story .hahaha
旧案：中国科学院院士被解聘
已有 1110 次阅读 2011-4-3 16:27 |个人分类:另眼看中国|系统分类:海外观察
近日在读美国外交关系委员会（Council on Foreign Relations）的史国力（Adam
Segal）博士的新著《优势：美国创新如何战胜亚洲的挑战》(Advantage: How
American Innovation Can Overcome the Asian Challenge, New York: Norton, 2011
)。书里在讲述海归对中国科技体制改革的贡献时，提到了中国科学院神经所的一桩旧
案。
记得曾从《科学时报》上读到过“记中科院上海神经所所长蒲慕明：但求慈航心中渡”
的专访，蒲慕明提到：“一位资深研究员因为不肯接受国际专家的学术评估，我们不得
不终止他的聘书。”
“记中科院上海神经所所长蒲慕明：但求慈航心中渡”的链接：http://news.sciencenet.cn/htmlnews/2010/1/227542.shtm?id=227542
究竟哪个“资深研究员”被“终止”了，包括笔者在内的读者多有猜测，但显然都不对。
史国力的著作讲述了这个故事，称来源是蒲慕明发到国立浙江大学网站上的Email。那
位不肯接受的资深研究员居然是中国科学院院士，他认为，当选中科院院士足以证明他
在中国科学界的领袖地位，所以没有必要参加“评审”。他还认为，他的院士资格保障
他永远有从事科学研究的权利。但蒲给他两个选择，要么参加评审，要么接受一个荣誉
职位，享受相同的工资待遇，但他将不再担任实验室主任。
In an email purportedly from Poo and posted on a Chekiang (Zhejiang)
University discussion board, he informed the director of a lab, who was
refusing to submit to an internal academic review, that he would have to
remove him. In his email response, the director claimed that his election to
the Chinese Academy of Sciences was proof enough of his leadership in the
scientific community to make him not subject to review. Moreover, the
scientist believed that his exalted position as an academician guaranteed
his right to continue his research activity indefinitely. Unmoved, Poo
offered two choices: show up for the review, or accept an honorary position
with the same level of salary, a move that would effectively terminate his
position as lab head. (Advantage, p. 69)
在讲这个故事时，史国力没有说院士是谁，但给出了一个出处。从Email exchange可以
看到，那个院士是李朝义，他以身体原因不参加国际评审，但蒲慕明说他在身体健康时
就曾以“院士”和“有永远从事科研的权利”挑战蒲，尽管他在当时加入神经所时承诺
参加国际评审。当然，结果是：虽然蒲慕明不能剥夺李朝义的院士荣誉称号，但还是解
除了他的PI一职。
资深研究员被终止聘书的链接：http://www.ncku1897.net/post/topic.aspx?tid=2759497。
[转帖]美国教授蒲慕明逼中国科学院院士李朝义退休
送交者: 朱铁 2007年1月16日05:20:54 于 [教育与学术]http://www.bbsland.com
美国教授蒲慕明，空中飞人，做中国科学院上海神经研究所所长。李朝义院士，神经所
研究员。
2005年蒲慕明和李朝义发生冲突。蒲慕明和李朝义的电子邮件发给全所研究员（heads@
ion.ac.cn）。流传甚广。终于流传到网上。
From: "CY Li"
Reply-To: c**[email protected]
To: "heads"
Cc: "gpei" , "kxchen" ,
"wujr" , "bwtang"
神经所各位PI，
现将我写给蒲慕明信件的全文转发给大加，请大家仔细阅读，就不难发现他是如何对我
信的内容进行断章取义，有意向大家隐瞒我的病情以及医生对我的告诫，并无理地逼迫
大家向他本人表态，借以对我施加压力，来达到他强迫我提前退休的不可告人的目的（
根据国加法律中国科学院院士是终身职位，可工作到80岁后转为资深院士）。无论蒲今
后采取何种手段，我在近几年内绝不会离开神经所，更不会如他期望的那样同时将属于
我的基金和仪器设备非法地转到他的名下。我的全部国家基金项目将继续进行下去，直
到这些项目完成为止。根据事态的发展情况（包括蒲的表现），今后如果有必要，我将
向大家展示更多的细节和证据。我保留向党中央和国家最高领导人对蒲慕明侵犯李朝义
院士人权，和进行人身迫害，提出申诉的权利。
专此。
中科院院士 李朝义
2005年6月5日
---------------
尊敬的蒲慕明所长,
关于我的健康状况前些时候我已经同您详谈过了。 去年我突发大面积心肌梗死， 随后
又发生脑梗塞，在医院的大力抢救下才获得了第二次生命, 直到现在尚处于病休之中。
负责治疗我的心脏科和神经内科主任以及其他医院的会诊专家们都一再告诫我, 对于像
我这样发生过如此大面积心肌梗死的患者, 相当大的一部分心肌已发生了不可逆转的改
变，目前能够做到的是在近一、二年内争取我心脏功能能够获得部分的代偿。因此，我
心脏的功能能够恢复到什么程度，今明两年将是最关键的时期。在此期间内，医生们强
烈地要求我要最大限度地减轻工作上的负荷，充分休息，特别强调要避免一切精神刺激
和心理上的压力。根据我目前的病情，显然，在今年要求我参加像“评议”、“考核”
之类的活动是极不合适的。希望能够得到您的理解。
尽管如此，我可以在此表示，即便是在我目前带病工作的情况下, 我一定能够带领我研
究组的全体人员，夺回因我生病而被耽误的时间，努力工作, 争取在不久之后，用我们
的实际成绩交出一份满意的答卷。在今后适当时机，我将十分乐意接受一个由国际视觉
领域顶级科学家组成的评审委员会对我的工作进行评定。
致礼！
李朝义
2005年6月4日
--------------------------
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005
To: "CY Li"
From: Mu-Ming Poo
Subject: PI review
Cc: "Gang Pei" , ,
, ,
Dear Prof. Li:
I have received your letter expressing your intention not to participate in
this year's academic review of ION PIs & laboratories. As I explained to you
on numerous occasions, I cannot change the principle that every laboratory
in operation in ION must be reviewed on a regular basis. Over the past year,
even before your health problem, you have openly stated in a PI meeting and
in numerous discussions with me that you object to the review of your
laboratory, based on two reasons: (1) Academicians of CAS are proven by the
Chinese scientific community to be the leader in their field, thus should
not be reviewed by an international committee, and (2) the academicians have
the right guaranteed by CAS to continue research activity indefinitely.
However, the CAS "no retirement" rule for academicians does not imply that
they can continue to run a laboratory indefinitely without proper review. In
fact, it is agreed by every PI when he/she joins ION, including yourself,
that all PIs will accept the 4th-year review for investigators and 6th-year
review for senior investigators.
With regard to your health, I have indeed been very concerned about your
health and whether your condition allows you to supervise the research of
your students. Your students have been very concerned about their future and
the morale of your group has been extremely
low, as the prospect of their graduating on time is diminishing. After
careful consideration of my responsibilities to you and your students as the
ION director, I offered you the solution that will waive you from
participating in the review, namely, to accept the Honorary Investigator
position, keep exactly the same level of salary and your office, but
terminate your lab head position by June 1. You had agreed with this
arrangement and xxxxally announced it, even as late as May 21 of this year.
By June 1, however, you suddenly broke the agreement unilaterally and
announced that you want to continue to run your laboratory. Your action has
left me no choice but to ask you again to participate in this year's review
process. The health issue is a new issue, but now has become your main
argument for not participating in the review this year. However, as you are
fully aware, you always have the option not to be present during the site
visit of the review team, should your health conditions not permit you to do
so, but your laboratory activity and research program can still be reviewed.
In any case, I am very sorry to learn that you do not intend to participate
in the review this year. If you do change your mind again, you can still
send me an e-mail note (or fax 510-642-2544) stating explicitly that you "
will participate in this year's PI review according to the standard ION
procedure", before noon Monday June 6 (Shanghai time, when I have to inxxxx
our International Advisory Board for the assembly of the review team).
Without the above explicit statement, I will have to interpret that you have
decided not to participate in the review this year.
Sincerely yours,
Mu-ming Poo
Director, ION
P.S. Your accusation of my personal (or Dr. Yang Dan's) intention on your
fund and equipment is so ridiculous that it does not deserve my response.
However, since your accusation is open to all ION Lab Heads and the SIBS
leadership, I have to make a simple and to-the-point response, in defense of
my reputation (and that of Dr. Dan, your guest investigator for four years).
Over the past several years, my efforts and Dr. Dan's efforts in helping
your research projects (in a manner that has always been most respectful to
you) have been impeccable and can be testified by all of your students (
including those who have graduated). Your constant strict orders to your
students not to take any well-intended suggestions from Dr. Dan on your
students' projects have resulted in Dr. Dan's withdrawal from any
interaction with your students in the past two years with the exception of
one student, whose research activity barely allows the CAS-funded guest
investigator program (under your name as a "collaborator") to continue as
proposed to CAS. Even under such difficult circumstances, Dr. Dan managed to
provide extensive help while you were hospitalized late last year on the
publication of your two most recent papers by two of your students, one of
which (Xu Weifeng) was on the verge of losing the eligibility for his Ph.D
diploma. This fact is well-recognized and acknowledged by all of your
students.
My order to the ION staff to carry out equipment inventory on the first week
of June was based on your agreement on the termination of your lab head
position by June 1. By any measure, this is a necessary step for me as the
ION director to organize the research efforts of the students in order to
ensure successful completion of their thesis projects and, by accepting the
Honorary Investigator position, you no longer had the authority over
research funds and the equipment. In my order to the ION staff, I
specifically mentioned the "expensive" piece of the newly-bought equipment,
because one of your xxxxer students Xu Shengjin proposed a thesis project in
May, which was approved by the Ph.D qualification exam committee, that
requires the use of this piece of equipment. To me as a scientist, it is
absolutely unreasonable to spend such a large amount of taxpayer's money on
an expensive piece of equipment, but keep it in the office to prevent a
student from carrying out the research.
P.S. (to ION Laboratory Heads)
For the interests of ION, I request that my e-mail communications to Prof.
Li not to be circulated outside ION and to ION students. However, in the
event that Prof. Li continues his open accusation, I am always prepared to
defend myself.
【在 j*****d 的大作中提到】
: interesting story .hahaha
: 旧案：中国科学院院士被解聘
: 已有 1110 次阅读 2011-4-3 16:27 |个人分类:另眼看中国|系统分类:海外观察
: 近日在读美国外交关系委员会（Council on Foreign Relations）的史国力（Adam
: Segal）博士的新著《优势：美国创新如何战胜亚洲的挑战》(Advantage: How
: American Innovation Can Overcome the Asian Challenge, New York: Norton, 2011
: )。书里在讲述海归对中国科技体制改革的贡献时，提到了中国科学院神经所的一桩旧
: 案。
: 记得曾从《科学时报》上读到过“记中科院上海神经所所长蒲慕明：但求慈航心中渡”
: 的专访，蒲慕明提到：“一位资深研究员因为不肯接受国际专家的学术评估，我们不得
| c**********5
发帖数: 653 | | q******g
发帖数: 3858 | | d****h
发帖数: 4291 | 15 科研这个摊子和当年上海滩各大堂主之间的血雨腥风也差不多了多少啊
【在 B********e 的大作中提到】
: 当年，蒲和李联手挤掉生理所，然后没过两年李就被干掉了， 嘻嘻
| b**********8
发帖数: 349 | | j**e
发帖数: 582 | 17 well, there is more story, that Dan was Poo's former student or postdoc.
【在 b**********8 的大作中提到】
: 八卦一下
: 这个女人是poo的现任老婆？真漂亮啊，的确也算郎才女貌，而且女的也很有才啊。
: http://neuroscience.berkeley.edu/users/users_profile.php?id=5
| b**********8
发帖数: 349 | 18
有所耳闻，愿听详解~
【在 j**e 的大作中提到】
: well, there is more story, that Dan was Poo's former student or postdoc.
| c********r
发帖数: 1125 | 19
听一个前辈说得，据说比较可信。
听说poo的原配是台湾一起过去的留学生，在美国貌似是做医生。两人感情还算和睦但
是貌似精神交流不多。
后来dan yang去了poo实验室做postdoc，两人很快感觉到精神上的共鸣。。。之类的，
然后这种3角关系维持了很久，原配貌似态度强硬，但是poo考虑到原配对自己的帮助和
这么多年感情一直下不了决心离婚。。。就一直拖着。
后来据称是有一次老poo得了比较严重的病，在养病期间大彻大悟，人生就一辈子，能
有多少知己？！ 要忠于自己心灵深处的呼唤～！外界舆论的压力终可抛。。然后就毅
然离婚了。跟dan yang 结婚了。
相比他们系另外一个女pi的故事，我觉得这个不是完全没法让人理解啦。。
我觉得还好啦。。。我身边知道的生物的老板结2－3次婚的不要太多。。。
另外不离婚也不代表就很幸福，很多家庭表面一团和谐，实际怎么样不足为外人道也。
【在 b**********8 的大作中提到】
:
: 有所耳闻，愿听详解~
| W*****o
发帖数: 1780 | 20 这还不如老杨吧？老杨就多拿了个诺奖，也没离婚，也没三角恋，还是老婆死了才又娶
的翁，既不是他学生又不是postdoc。结果给人骂死了。和poo比，老杨要冤死了。 | y***i
发帖数: 11639 | 21 是集体投票，应该是很多人吧。
【在 k******0 的大作中提到】
: 饶毅自己还遮遮掩掩，似有难言之隐，但指出了学生物的都知道这“秘密”。
: 哪位给解解惑？
| k******0
发帖数: 1073 | |
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