b****h 发帖数: 1022 | 1 IMP-25 North Dlr: North
Board 851 S 62 Vul: E-W
H AKQ
West D A53 East
S 9 C QT962 S 873
H 765 H T4
D K9842 South D QJ76
C KJ87 S AKQJT54 C A543
H J9832
D T
C | k*****a 发帖数: 13 | 2 6H/S is possible. I don't think anyone will reach 7H/S
【在 b****h 的大作中提到】 : IMP-25 North Dlr: North : Board 851 S 62 Vul: E-W : H AKQ : West D A53 East : S 9 C QT962 S 873 : H 765 H T4 : D K9842 South D QJ76 : C KJ87 S AKQJT54 C A543 : H J9832 : D T
| c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 3 1nt 2h
2s 4c ( splinter )
4d 5c ( void or stiff A)
5H 6D ( second round control, grand slam interest)
6H(HAK) ?
bid 7s to try luck bah....need HQ or HAK doubleton or HT to finesse....
anyway, I'd try 7S.
【在 b****h 的大作中提到】 : IMP-25 North Dlr: North : Board 851 S 62 Vul: E-W : H AKQ : West D A53 East : S 9 C QT962 S 873 : H 765 H T4 : D K9842 South D QJ76 : C KJ87 S AKQJT54 C A543 : H J9832 : D T
| w**n 发帖数: 244 | 4
~~
Most likely will be 2NT.
2NT 3H
4D(1) 5NT
6S 7H
1: Since North didn't support spades, he should hold 2 spades.
In this case, 4D should be understood as cuebid.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】 : 1nt 2h : 2s 4c ( splinter ) : 4d 5c ( void or stiff A) : 5H 6D ( second round control, grand slam interest) : 6H(HAK) ? : bid 7s to try luck bah....need HQ or HAK doubleton or HT to finesse.... : anyway, I'd try 7S.
| m********w 发帖数: 69 | 5 2nt is bad coz u have no fit and only 15 pts. 2sp is obvious
( ur pd may have 0 pts, u wanna play 2nt?)
【在 w**n 的大作中提到】 : : ~~ : Most likely will be 2NT. : 2NT 3H : 4D(1) 5NT : 6S 7H : : 1: Since North didn't support spades, he should hold 2 spades. : In this case, 4D should be understood as cuebid.
| w**n 发帖数: 244 | 6 With 0~5 pts, partner would choose pass instead of transfer since 1NT
clearly told partner average hand with 15-17 HCP. Partner's 2H promised
at least >6 pts ( including distribution points )
Normally 2S promises at least 3 spades or 2 spades with top three honors.
【在 m********w 的大作中提到】 : 2nt is bad coz u have no fit and only 15 pts. 2sp is obvious : ( ur pd may have 0 pts, u wanna play 2nt?)
| c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 7 yuck, u should revise ur 1NT bidding:P
few people use ur convention
【在 w**n 的大作中提到】 : With 0~5 pts, partner would choose pass instead of transfer since 1NT : clearly told partner average hand with 15-17 HCP. Partner's 2H promised : at least >6 pts ( including distribution points ) : Normally 2S promises at least 3 spades or 2 spades with top three honors.
| w**n 发帖数: 244 | 8 Could you please explain a little more?
Did you mean 2NT response or pass with 0~5Pts(including distribution)
should be revised?
According to 2S response in this hand:
Whatever it promises, spades support or waiting for partner's further
bidding, it'll bring us another problem. Namely, when should one deny
transfer over 1NT if thransfer is not only used to protect strong hand
from opps?
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】 : yuck, u should revise ur 1NT bidding:P : few people use ur convention
| c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 9 多数人是零点的牌也要transfer的, 比如这么一手牌
xxxxxx xx xxx xx
2sp明显是更合理的定约. 叫2sp 就是转移, 但如果有四张配合以及高限牌力
就可以叫3sp, 这也就是super accept. 当然你还可以设计2nt,3c,3d,3h这样的叫品
但都必须是黑心好配,上限牌力.
【在 w**n 的大作中提到】 : Could you please explain a little more? : Did you mean 2NT response or pass with 0~5Pts(including distribution) : should be revised? : According to 2S response in this hand: : Whatever it promises, spades support or waiting for partner's further : bidding, it'll bring us another problem. Namely, when should one deny : transfer over 1NT if thransfer is not only used to protect strong hand : from opps?
| r*****d 发帖数: 23 | 10 Tranfer is an order not something else. As long as both agree to use this
convention, 1NT opener should absolutely bid the suit, no matter how many points
your partner has. Of cource, one should be careful not to abuse this convention,
when you have a fairly weak and even hand with few points and a 5-card suit
(for examply, 5332), better pass.
【在 w**n 的大作中提到】 : Could you please explain a little more? : Did you mean 2NT response or pass with 0~5Pts(including distribution) : should be revised? : According to 2S response in this hand: : Whatever it promises, spades support or waiting for partner's further : bidding, it'll bring us another problem. Namely, when should one deny : transfer over 1NT if thransfer is not only used to protect strong hand : from opps?
| | | a*******s 发帖数: 295 | 11
在北开叫1NT的前提下, 这里问题的关键是北需要明确地知道南有红心
5张套以及草花上的控制, 才可能顺利地配合满贯叫牌.
任何自然的叫牌在这里都将无能为力. 必须借助于一些人工的约定叫.
那么, 在开叫强无将后的叫牌结构里, 可以引入哪些表示两套牌的约定叫呢?
最常用的是SMOLEN转移叫. 通行的SMOLEN转移叫的基本结构如下
1NT - 2C -
2D - ?
2H, 2S, 所叫的是5(6)张, 表示高花5-4, 6-4的弱牌, 开叫方应该PASS
3H, 3S, 所叫的4张, 另一高花更长, 当然是进局逼叫的实力, 开叫方在
另一个高花上有3张, 通常选择高花进局, 否则叫3NT.
上述的结构有两个弱点:
1, 未能包括邀叫实力有两套高花的牌, 而这种牌的出现几率是很大的.
2. 未能阐明如何处理5-5以上高花的牌.
我们对SMOLEN转移叫的改进的处理方式即着重于上述两点.
为了强化局和满贯的叫牌手段, 我们放弃了对弱牌的精确处理.
1NT - 2C
2D - ?
1. 2H, 2S, 不再是表示5-4的弱牌, 当你持这种弱牌时, 现在只好选择转移
【在 b****h 的大作中提到】 : IMP-25 North Dlr: North : Board 851 S 62 Vul: E-W : H AKQ : West D A53 East : S 9 C QT962 S 873 : H 765 H T4 : D K9842 South D QJ76 : C KJ87 S AKQJT54 C A543 : H J9832 : D T
| r*****d 发帖数: 23 | 12 //admire and agree with what you said. That's particularly suitable for this hand.
【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】 : : 在北开叫1NT的前提下, 这里问题的关键是北需要明确地知道南有红心 : 5张套以及草花上的控制, 才可能顺利地配合满贯叫牌. : 任何自然的叫牌在这里都将无能为力. 必须借助于一些人工的约定叫. : 那么, 在开叫强无将后的叫牌结构里, 可以引入哪些表示两套牌的约定叫呢? : 最常用的是SMOLEN转移叫. 通行的SMOLEN转移叫的基本结构如下 : 1NT - 2C - : 2D - ? : 2H, 2S, 所叫的是5(6)张, 表示高花5-4, 6-4的弱牌, 开叫方应该PASS : 3H, 3S, 所叫的4张, 另一高花更长, 当然是进局逼叫的实力, 开叫方在
| c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 13 but who knows these conventions?
nobody knows what 4sp means after 1nt-2c-2d.
and next time, change that 5 h to 5 dia, how can u bid?
I think my way is fair enough.
1nt -2h-2s-4c(splinter, inviting slam)-4d(cue)-5c(cue)-5h(HA)-6d(D cont)-6h(HK)
-7s.
even that 6h can be 7sp too.
btw, if u do want to add a convention , u can use 4c as void rkc.
so 4c is to ask rkc except club suit.
1nt-2h-2s-4c-4s(2kc without sq) -5h(asking heartsuit) - 7s( have HKQ, so ...)
【在 r*****d 的大作中提到】 : //admire and agree with what you said. That's particularly suitable for this hand.
| f*****x 发帖数: 545 | 14 you seat south, holding
S: A9
H: KXXX
D: AKQX
C: AXX
PD OPEN 1C, EAST BID 3S
WHAT DO YOU BID? 4S,OR ... | f**r 发帖数: 3 | 15 3NT?
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】 : you seat south, holding : S: A9 : H: KXXX : D: AKQX : C: AXX : PD OPEN 1C, EAST BID 3S : WHAT DO YOU BID? 4S,OR ...
| f*****x 发帖数: 545 | 16 is it forcing or not?【 在 ferr (ferr) 的大作中提到: 】 | g******a 发帖数: 667 | 17 4S means no control on S, not applicable
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】 : you seat south, holding : S: A9 : H: KXXX : D: AKQX : C: AXX : PD OPEN 1C, EAST BID 3S : WHAT DO YOU BID? 4S,OR ...
| c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 18 double.
if pd bid 4C/D/H, you can ask for key cards by 4NT.
if pd bid 3NT, you can try 4NT if pd's opening style isn't very sound
or 6NT if he's a sound opener.
If pd passes, you really don't mind defending. hehe
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】 : you seat south, holding : S: A9 : H: KXXX : D: AKQX : C: AXX : PD OPEN 1C, EAST BID 3S : WHAT DO YOU BID? 4S,OR ...
| f*****x 发帖数: 545 | 19 i bid 6n directly, but pd hold
S: X
H: AQJXX
D: X
C: KQ10XXX
7N IS COLD
DBL 3S IS NOT PUNISHING?
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】 : double. : if pd bid 4C/D/H, you can ask for key cards by 4NT. : if pd bid 3NT, you can try 4NT if pd's opening style isn't very sound : or 6NT if he's a sound opener. : If pd passes, you really don't mind defending. hehe
| c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 20 For SAYC, it's penalty oriented. But the truth is that almost no
experts play double over 3S as purely for penalty as I know.
Actually I think most experts play negative double at least to 4H,
the only difference between a low level negative double and a high level
negative double is that a high level negative double may be converted to
penalty double more often than a low level one by partner.
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】 : i bid 6n directly, but pd hold : S: X : H: AQJXX : D: X : C: KQ10XXX : 7N IS COLD : DBL 3S IS NOT PUNISHING?
| | | b***n 发帖数: 13455 | 21 definitely 6NT or 6H
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】 : you seat south, holding : S: A9 : H: KXXX : D: AKQX : C: AXX : PD OPEN 1C, EAST BID 3S : WHAT DO YOU BID? 4S,OR ...
| f*****x 发帖数: 545 | 22 Play precision:
you hold:
S: JTXXX
H: AKQX
D: XX
C: AJ
you open 1s, pd 1n, op keep silent, what do you bid? | b***n 发帖数: 13455 | 23 if sayc, I would bid 3H
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】 : Play precision: : you hold: : S: JTXXX : H: AKQX : D: XX : C: AJ : you open 1s, pd 1n, op keep silent, what do you bid?
| w****b 发帖数: 623 | 24 3H. What's the problem? I haven't played prec many many years but this still
seems rather natural to show a maximum hand and I'm never too shy to show my
good heart... even off the bridge table.
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】 : Play precision: : you hold: : S: JTXXX : H: AKQX : D: XX : C: AJ : you open 1s, pd 1n, op keep silent, what do you bid?
| f*****x 发帖数: 545 | 25 i played this hand with a seeming advanced player. i bid 3h, he raised to 4s,
rho dbled.
his hand:
S: KX
H: JX
D: J10XXX
C: KQXX
rho has aqxxx 5 spades.
AND he blamed my 3h, i think he should bid 3n, right?
if he bid 3n, and if rho lead sx, then 9 tricks are there.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】 : 3H. What's the problem? I haven't played prec many many years but this still : seems rather natural to show a maximum hand and I'm never too shy to show my : good heart... even off the bridge table.
| r*****l 发帖数: 2859 | 26 hehe, your pd has only 10 pts, no A. and not good S support, no good 牌型。
In prec, your 3H does not show that you have 15+ pts.
How dare he bit 4S? Even 3NT is not very promising bah.
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】 : i played this hand with a seeming advanced player. i bid 3h, he raised to 4s, : rho dbled. : his hand: : S: KX : H: JX : D: J10XXX : C: KQXX : rho has aqxxx 5 spades. : AND he blamed my 3h, i think he should bid 3n, right? : if he bid 3n, and if rho lead sx, then 9 tricks are there.
| x***e 发帖数: 2449 | 27 hehe, reaBull is a bridge lover too, hand
4s,
still
show my
【在 r*****l 的大作中提到】 : hehe, your pd has only 10 pts, no A. and not good S support, no good 牌型。 : In prec, your 3H does not show that you have 15+ pts. : How dare he bit 4S? Even 3NT is not very promising bah.
| r*****l 发帖数: 2859 | 28 Blush
I have not been playing for years. Not easy to find partner here. I
almost forgot everything lah.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】 : hehe, reaBull is a bridge lover too, hand : : 4s, : still : show my
| g********l 发帖数: 2 | 29
I would bid 2H.
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】 : Play precision: : you hold: : S: JTXXX : H: AKQX : D: XX : C: AJ : you open 1s, pd 1n, op keep silent, what do you bid?
| f*****x 发帖数: 545 | 30 Vul.: EW
Dealer: South
W N E S
P
P P 1D X
1S 1N P 2H
DBL P 2S ?
you are south, holding:
S: KJ8X
H: QJ9XXX
D: --
C: TXX | | | j*******e 发帖数: 2168 | 31 I might bid 2H instead of X in the first place.
Pd can reasonably deduct that you have a spade suit so you do not bid 2H first
seat.
Double twists your hand a little bit, for Pd can hardly imagine you have a
6-card H suit and he may think you have a close-to-opening hand.
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】 : Vul.: EW : Dealer: South : W N E S : P : P P 1D X : 1S 1N P 2H : DBL P 2S ? : you are south, holding: : S: KJ8X : H: QJ9XXX
| f*****x 发帖数: 545 | 32 是,所以我没有叫2H,二十加倍,希望能发现S的配合.你觉得同伴的1NT应当是什么牌?【 在
josephine (jo) 的大作中提到: 】
first | j*******e 发帖数: 2168 | 33 I would imagine his hand as:
a diamond suit, 2 spades, at least 2 hearts, 3-4 clubs.
Most likely 2-3-5-3 shape, 6-10hp.
【 在 flytoox (workinghard) 的大作中提到: 】
在 | f*****x 发帖数: 545 | 34 i thoght for a while, think you are right, pass then preempt 2H. It must
impliy, logically, you have 4-card spades. Otherwise, why not preemept in the
first time?【 在 josephine (jo) 的大作中提到: 】
first | m*e 发帖数: 155 | 35
the
我认为延迟的二红桃逻辑上只能推到是某种“不适合立即二红桃”的牌,
而四六高套只是一种“不适合”,还存在其它类型的“不适合”吧。如
可能红桃套本身或整手牌攻防组合的不适合。再者,如对方继续叫牌,
然后你才叫二红桃,有可能没法和平衡二红桃区分,而平衡二红桃则
既基本否定对黑桃的兴趣而且红桃也听不出六张了。
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】 : i thoght for a while, think you are right, pass then preempt 2H. It must : impliy, logically, you have 4-card spades. Otherwise, why not preemept in the : first time?【 在 josephine (jo) 的大作中提到: 】 : first
| s*****a 发帖数: 3693 | 36 then why not pass. Personally I dislike that 1nt bidding.
I would not bid dbl after 1d. I think 1h is just fine imho.
【在 j*******e 的大作中提到】 : I would imagine his hand as: : a diamond suit, 2 spades, at least 2 hearts, 3-4 clubs. : Most likely 2-3-5-3 shape, 6-10hp. : 【 在 flytoox (workinghard) 的大作中提到: 】 : 在
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