a*******s
发帖数: 295 | 1 Mr. Truscott, let’s not kill bridge!
By Carlo Masca, NPC of the Italian Open Team
Bridge is tactics, strategy, technique, psychology; it is about intelligence
and not a battle of regulations.
A system or conventions affirms itself if effective and will inevitably
disappear when it becomes obsolete and a losing one; all this at the games
table and not at the judging one.
In recent years the most prevalent systems have been those of the natural
type, those which are quick to specify fit situations | c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 2 I am just wondering who is killing bridge.
Number of bridge players is declining and will decline in the future.
One important reason is that even an expert can not understand most of the
highly un-usual methods in world championship. For other games, it doesn't
really take an expert to watch it, but for bridge, even experts may not
understand the highest level competitions.
There must be something wrong. It's just
so mean to play a highly un-usual and destructive method for one's own
advantage.
【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: Mr. Truscott, let’s not kill bridge!
: By Carlo Masca, NPC of the Italian Open Team
: Bridge is tactics, strategy, technique, psychology; it is about intelligence
: and not a battle of regulations.
: A system or conventions affirms itself if effective and will inevitably
: disappear when it becomes obsolete and a losing one; all this at the games
: table and not at the judging one.
: In recent years the most prevalent systems have been those of the natural
: type, those which are quick to specify fit situations
| a*******s
发帖数: 295 | 3 History already recorded who did and keep killing bridge.
It's this Mr. Truscott, made tons of rediculous comments on
how bridge should be played and how the players from outside
north America were cheating.
Why didn't he complain that Mechwell plays a highly unusual system
and their style is too aggressive to make bridge an enjoyable
game? Actually, his real intention is to regulate bridge
in such a way that the rules always favor american players.
Because of the popularity of the methods devel
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: I am just wondering who is killing bridge.
: Number of bridge players is declining and will decline in the future.
: One important reason is that even an expert can not understand most of the
: highly un-usual methods in world championship. For other games, it doesn't
: really take an expert to watch it, but for bridge, even experts may not
: understand the highest level competitions.
: There must be something wrong. It's just
: so mean to play a highly un-usual and destructive method for one's own
: advantage.
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 4 You must be kidding. Alan Truscott is such a great person that he can kill
bridge, it's really a big joke. I don't really agree with all of Truscott's
points. However, he does speak out some truth about the modern trend of the
destructive methods. The destructive methods can't really hurt top players
in theory, but it's really a bad idea to allow this kind of methods in short
matches, because it's virturally impossible for opponents to have a good
understanding in these highly unussual methods i
【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: History already recorded who did and keep killing bridge.
: It's this Mr. Truscott, made tons of rediculous comments on
: how bridge should be played and how the players from outside
: north America were cheating.
: Why didn't he complain that Mechwell plays a highly unusual system
: and their style is too aggressive to make bridge an enjoyable
: game? Actually, his real intention is to regulate bridge
: in such a way that the rules always favor american players.
: Because of the popularity of the methods devel
| a*******s
发帖数: 295 | 5 The topic is Bermuda World championship, all participants are or should be top
players. As Masca said, to win this game, you need to
work hard. It's not a war of regulation.
I am an average player, I am able to know what's going on in any system if you
explain it to me for half an hour.
For Mechwell, let me use their own words:
"The Mechwell style is to put the opponents under pressure as often
as possible. The more decision you give them, the more they will get
wrong and the more chances you wi
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: You must be kidding. Alan Truscott is such a great person that he can kill
: bridge, it's really a big joke. I don't really agree with all of Truscott's
: points. However, he does speak out some truth about the modern trend of the
: destructive methods. The destructive methods can't really hurt top players
: in theory, but it's really a bad idea to allow this kind of methods in short
: matches, because it's virturally impossible for opponents to have a good
: understanding in these highly unussual methods i
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 6
No, I am not only talking about bermuda bowl. bridge is somehow a game of
regulations nowadays. There were a lot of ruling disputes in recent top level
matches.
One thing I am sure is that you can't really understand strong pass system,
nightmare, etc in half a week.
Well, that's aggressiveness, not really destructive. I've read a lot of
their hands actually. Actually Meckwell's system is quite straight forward
comparing with other destructive methods: like 8-10 super light 1NT,
fert, overcall
【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: The topic is Bermuda World championship, all participants are or should be top
: players. As Masca said, to win this game, you need to
: work hard. It's not a war of regulation.
: I am an average player, I am able to know what's going on in any system if you
: explain it to me for half an hour.
: For Mechwell, let me use their own words:
: "The Mechwell style is to put the opponents under pressure as often
: as possible. The more decision you give them, the more they will get
: wrong and the more chances you wi
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 7 Guys, I don't know what you are disputing, but try to calm down and throw away
personal feelings and prejudices, let's just talk about bridge.
I think it's natural for people to explore the weakness of the law if the law
is not mature enough. And the process of maturing the regulation may take
several generations. Just lamenting among our groups wouldn't move things. If
you have strong opinion, write to your district representative/director. After
all ACBL is a democratic body.
I personally don'
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
:
: No, I am not only talking about bermuda bowl. bridge is somehow a game of
: regulations nowadays. There were a lot of ruling disputes in recent top level
: matches.
: One thing I am sure is that you can't really understand strong pass system,
: nightmare, etc in half a week.
: Well, that's aggressiveness, not really destructive. I've read a lot of
: their hands actually. Actually Meckwell's system is quite straight forward
: comparing with other destructive methods: like 8-10 super light 1NT,
: fert, overcall
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 8 I have no much personal feelings about both American and European players.
I am not really against destructive methods as well. What I am against is the
way those players are taking advantages from these methods. It's not even
because their methods are better. They gain just because their opponents
are not familiar with the method. That's not the right way to win. It might be
legal, but a lot of ethic issues involved here. Also, it is poisonous to
media broadcasting. What can you gain if you wat
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Guys, I don't know what you are disputing, but try to calm down and throw away
: personal feelings and prejudices, let's just talk about bridge.
: I think it's natural for people to explore the weakness of the law if the law
: is not mature enough. And the process of maturing the regulation may take
: several generations. Just lamenting among our groups wouldn't move things. If
: you have strong opinion, write to your district representative/director. After
: all ACBL is a democratic body.
: I personally don'
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 9 OK I think we come to a better conclusion. It's the failure to disclose, and
fully disclose the method, that does the damage, not the destructive/highly
unusual method itself.
Notice that disclosing the method itself does not necessarily mean disclosing
intentions -- and why should one do that? You don't chess player to disclose
their intentions in a complex manoeuver.
On the ethic side, how many players disclose their style before the play
begins? As I see it, the understanding of styles betwee
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: I have no much personal feelings about both American and European players.
: I am not really against destructive methods as well. What I am against is the
: way those players are taking advantages from these methods. It's not even
: because their methods are better. They gain just because their opponents
: are not familiar with the method. That's not the right way to win. It might be
: legal, but a lot of ethic issues involved here. Also, it is poisonous to
: media broadcasting. What can you gain if you wat
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 10
The problem is that for a highly unusual method, it's way more important
to disclose partnership understanding, because if you play a standard method,
your opponents may be experienced enough to understand what is going on there.
So if one plays a highly unusual system, a pre-alert is required and more
partnership understanding and agreement should be given. However, if the
system is very complicated, it's virtually impossible to disclose all the
information. So players who play it can still ta
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: OK I think we come to a better conclusion. It's the failure to disclose, and
: fully disclose the method, that does the damage, not the destructive/highly
: unusual method itself.
: Notice that disclosing the method itself does not necessarily mean disclosing
: intentions -- and why should one do that? You don't chess player to disclose
: their intentions in a complex manoeuver.
: On the ethic side, how many players disclose their style before the play
: begins? As I see it, the understanding of styles betwee
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