x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 1 Your P open 1nt 15-18
You have
K4
A76
A8
QJ9764
you 2nt P 3c
what is next..... | f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 2 4N quantitative raise. what is 4C here? I think 4C is a good choice here, but
there is chance for misunderstanding. 【 在 xlxie (《※★★★※§三老爷§※★
★★※》) 的大作中提到: 】 | x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 3 strongly agree.
Looks like it is a margin slam here.
If P's hand is equiped with controls, it will a decent slam.
so how to invite is the key here.
but
★
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: 4N quantitative raise. what is 4C here? I think 4C is a good choice here, but
: there is chance for misunderstanding. 【 在 xlxie (《※★★★※§三老爷§※★
: ★★※》) 的大作中提到: 】
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 4 actually, xfer to 3c then bid 3N implies slam interest. Perhaps that will do
the job as well. But again, you need a understanding pd.【 在 xlxie (《※★★
★※§三老爷§※★★★※》) 的大作中提到: 】 | a****s
发帖数: 524 | 5 This is funny, The other hand with that garbage you could bid 4H
I can't see why you should hesitate instead of banging 6C on the
table.
I would like even offer you a prove, for the sake of practicing using
the by-far most accurate and popular bidding approach of this board.
So, plug into the model:
Given pd's a mediocre hand like S AQxx H Kx D xxxx C AKx
Jesus, You 've just lost another a grand, again!
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: Your P open 1nt 15-18
: You have
: K4
: A76
: A8
: QJ9764
: you 2nt P 3c
: what is next.....
| x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 6 I have to say, you are genious
what else could I say?
with 15-17 opening....
you called
pd's a ""mediocre hand"" like S AQxx H Kx D xxxx C AKx???????
!@#%@#%^#$%&#
so
QJ, Qxxx, QJ AKxxx must be called a pure top hand for you?
Jesus, you got AK and 5cards in C, which could be the trump!
with P open 1nt, you sure you can make a 3nt? or 5c?
Hey, I didn't see you should bid 3nt and then pass, what I want to heard is
how you try to find something whether like you talked about, a pure perfect
match, o
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: This is funny, The other hand with that garbage you could bid 4H
: I can't see why you should hesitate instead of banging 6C on the
: table.
: I would like even offer you a prove, for the sake of practicing using
: the by-far most accurate and popular bidding approach of this board.
: So, plug into the model:
: Given pd's a mediocre hand like S AQxx H Kx D xxxx C AKx
: Jesus, You 've just lost another a grand, again!
| f*o
发帖数: 168 | 7 it is better for u to bid 3c directly to show 6 card suite and force to game
with some slam interests
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: Your P open 1nt 15-18
: You have
: K4
: A76
: A8
: QJ9764
: you 2nt P 3c
: what is next.....
| a****s
发帖数: 524 | 8 For any one who are interested in this discussion, please
reference artical 4399, 4401, 4402, 4404.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: I have to say, you are genious
: what else could I say?
: with 15-17 opening....
: you called
: pd's a ""mediocre hand"" like S AQxx H Kx D xxxx C AKx???????
: !@#%@#%^#$%&#
: so
: QJ, Qxxx, QJ AKxxx must be called a pure top hand for you?
: Jesus, you got AK and 5cards in C, which could be the trump!
: with P open 1nt, you sure you can make a 3nt? or 5c?
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 9 First, what's your 2NT here?
If it transfers to clubs, I bid 3D to show D value and slam interest.
Later, I'll bid 3NT, so partner still can pull with good club support and
good controls.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: I have to say, you are genious
: what else could I say?
: with 15-17 opening....
: you called
: pd's a ""mediocre hand"" like S AQxx H Kx D xxxx C AKx???????
: !@#%@#%^#$%&#
: so
: QJ, Qxxx, QJ AKxxx must be called a pure top hand for you?
: Jesus, you got AK and 5cards in C, which could be the trump!
: with P open 1nt, you sure you can make a 3nt? or 5c?
| x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 10 good point. got it :)
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: First, what's your 2NT here?
: If it transfers to clubs, I bid 3D to show D value and slam interest.
: Later, I'll bid 3NT, so partner still can pull with good club support and
: good controls.
| | | x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 11 Thanks for your commence.
Please, if you don't want to say anything, you can stop, from now, for your
own good.
I will stop talking about bridge with you as well.
I know we are playing different games, although the name is the same, "bridge"
?.
is
perfect
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: For any one who are interested in this discussion, please
: reference artical 4399, 4401, 4402, 4404.
| a****s
发帖数: 524 | 12 Come on, I am just trying to figure out how you guys' logic works.
If with that garbage, you can jump 4H without consulting partner,
"I only need this or that, it's enough".
Then I am not able to understand why I couldn't leap to 6C with this hand.
you see, with a "not-so-perfect" dummy, I make 7, hence my 6C was
really not a exaggeration.
That's what I am talking about, why even bother to bid at all?
"bridge"
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for your commence.
: Please, if you don't want to say anything, you can stop, from now, for your
: own good.
: I will stop talking about bridge with you as well.
: I know we are playing different games, although the name is the same, "bridge"
: ?.
:
: is
: perfect
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 13 Well, that isn't really a bad hand. If you think it's garbage, then you have
severe hand evaluation problems. It's actually a matter of style. If your
partner always balance with some sort of extra value, 4H would have some
very good play facing many dead minimum hands which would have passed a 3H
invitation, so 4H can easily be the winning bid. The winning strategy of
game bidding is to avoid inviting too much. You either pass or bid
a game, and invite only with a narrow range of hands, that wo
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: Come on, I am just trying to figure out how you guys' logic works.
: If with that garbage, you can jump 4H without consulting partner,
: "I only need this or that, it's enough".
: Then I am not able to understand why I couldn't leap to 6C with this hand.
: you see, with a "not-so-perfect" dummy, I make 7, hence my 6C was
: really not a exaggeration.
: That's what I am talking about, why even bother to bid at all?
:
:
: "bridge"
| c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 14 yiyi, so you suggest most bids should be very clear force/stop or purely
descriptive instead of vaguely say "hi... pd, I had some sort of middle
value hand and I give the right of making decision to you"... do I
correctly get the point?
In my point of view, follow this logic, then 2/3 level bids must be a
lot of artificial... I believe beginners as me should play more
natural style... what is your comments?
Thanks...
btw... I am o********e@smth... now I am in Amherst, MA for my Ph.D.
Is Springfi
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: Well, that isn't really a bad hand. If you think it's garbage, then you have
: severe hand evaluation problems. It's actually a matter of style. If your
: partner always balance with some sort of extra value, 4H would have some
: very good play facing many dead minimum hands which would have passed a 3H
: invitation, so 4H can easily be the winning bid. The winning strategy of
: game bidding is to avoid inviting too much. You either pass or bid
: a game, and invite only with a narrow range of hands, that wo
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 15 We still invite, but we invite only with a narrow range of hands.
For example, for this kind of sequence:
1C 1S
1N ?
We invite only with good 11 and normal 12,
we pass 1NT with normal 11 or less, bid 3NT with good 12 HCP.
So you don't play many 2NT here, which is important, because very often
you either make an overtrick in 2NT or go down in 2NT.
We may miss a game with normal 11 facing normal 14, but in that case,
3NT might not have a good play when we find no fit.
The same is true for 1S p 2S
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: yiyi, so you suggest most bids should be very clear force/stop or purely
: descriptive instead of vaguely say "hi... pd, I had some sort of middle
: value hand and I give the right of making decision to you"... do I
: correctly get the point?
: In my point of view, follow this logic, then 2/3 level bids must be a
: lot of artificial... I believe beginners as me should play more
: natural style... what is your comments?
: Thanks...
: btw... I am o********e@smth... now I am in Amherst, MA for my Ph.D.
: Is Springfi
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