j*******d
发帖数: 55 | 1 做的是本行技术工作，供应链方面的
37岁了，想更提升一步，
读MBA的话，但又想不出哪个方向好，反正，OM/SCM的方向我是不会读了
大家能给些职业发展方向的建议吗？谢谢 |
e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 2 没用
而且很难被录取
【在 j*******d 的大作中提到】
: 做的是本行技术工作，供应链方面的
: 37岁了，想更提升一步，
: 读MBA的话，但又想不出哪个方向好，反正，OM/SCM的方向我是不会读了
: 大家能给些职业发展方向的建议吗？谢谢
|
g*****k
发帖数: 1669 | 3 什莫是OM？
【在 j*******d 的大作中提到】
: 做的是本行技术工作，供应链方面的
: 37岁了，想更提升一步，
: 读MBA的话，但又想不出哪个方向好，反正，OM/SCM的方向我是不会读了
: 大家能给些职业发展方向的建议吗？谢谢
|
j*******d
发帖数: 55 | 4 为什么这么绝对？
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 没用
: 而且很难被录取
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i******l
发帖数: 828 | 5 37还好巴。 我老三十七的时候也没觉得怎么老。。
【在 j*******d 的大作中提到】
: 做的是本行技术工作，供应链方面的
: 37岁了，想更提升一步，
: 读MBA的话，但又想不出哪个方向好，反正，OM/SCM的方向我是不会读了
: 大家能给些职业发展方向的建议吗？谢谢
|
i******l
发帖数: 828 | |
e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 7 OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT
【在 g*****k 的大作中提到】
: 什莫是OM？
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 8 你这个年龄，要提升就应该读EMBA，
但是如果自己美达到那个程度可以读EMBA，
MBA也不会要你，因为人家要的是有POTENTIAL的人
这个年纪没干出一定LEVEL来就说明没有POTENTIAL了
干嘛还招你？
【在 j*******d 的大作中提到】
: 为什么这么绝对？
|
g*****k
发帖数: 1669 | 9 有这个说法？我看楼主的条件不差呀，读个MBA都不成？我严重怀疑。
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 你这个年龄，要提升就应该读EMBA，
: 但是如果自己美达到那个程度可以读EMBA，
: MBA也不会要你，因为人家要的是有POTENTIAL的人
: 这个年纪没干出一定LEVEL来就说明没有POTENTIAL了
: 干嘛还招你？
|
e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 10 一个50岁的做到PRINCIPLE ENGINEER的去申请MBA
会有人录取吗
【在 g*****k 的大作中提到】
: 有这个说法？我看楼主的条件不差呀，读个MBA都不成？我严重怀疑。
|
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g*****k
发帖数: 1669 | 11 问题是楼主才37，不要举极端的例子。
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 一个50岁的做到PRINCIPLE ENGINEER的去申请MBA
: 会有人录取吗
|
e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 12 极端是为了便于理解
条件好不等于能被录取
【在 g*****k 的大作中提到】
: 问题是楼主才37，不要举极端的例子。
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A*L
发帖数: 2357 | 13 为什么不会？
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 一个50岁的做到PRINCIPLE ENGINEER的去申请MBA
: 会有人录取吗
|
A*L
发帖数: 2357 | 14 同学，说话留点余地，不要过于尖酸了
人家有这个想法，也没有不对的，被你说得连录取的可能都没有。
虽然年龄可能稍微大了点，普通MBA平均年龄28-29，那肯定有人是大于这个数的，
37也最多是在5%以外，但是并不是没有希望。
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 你这个年龄，要提升就应该读EMBA，
: 但是如果自己美达到那个程度可以读EMBA，
: MBA也不会要你，因为人家要的是有POTENTIAL的人
: 这个年纪没干出一定LEVEL来就说明没有POTENTIAL了
: 干嘛还招你？
|
e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 15 希望当然存在
这世界上没绝对,正像你说的
0.001% 的可能性 也叫 有希望
并且随着排名越来靠后被录取的概率会便很大
因为人家就是为了赚你学费
【在 A*L 的大作中提到】
: 同学，说话留点余地，不要过于尖酸了
: 人家有这个想法，也没有不对的，被你说得连录取的可能都没有。
: 虽然年龄可能稍微大了点，普通MBA平均年龄28-29，那肯定有人是大于这个数的，
: 37也最多是在5%以外，但是并不是没有希望。
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A*L
发帖数: 2357 | 16 人家问题是读MBA合适吗。
你到底想说什么？合适还是录取率？
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 希望当然存在
: 这世界上没绝对,正像你说的
: 0.001% 的可能性 也叫 有希望
: 并且随着排名越来靠后被录取的概率会便很大
: 因为人家就是为了赚你学费
|
p*****t
发帖数: 3693 | 17 年龄应该不是问题，我知道有四十好几的人被录取的。问题在于楼主是不是抱着那种
typical的工程师心态-技术活做腻了，觉得拿个MBA就可以马上转型做管理。 |
c***s
发帖数: 1292 | 18 我们学校就有38岁来读full time的
毕业以后自己创业开了个咨询公司。focus在supply chain上面的。
这个年龄去投行，MC的可能偏大，但是做别的一点都不嫌年纪大。
说实话，只有3-5年工作经验的，我不知道在现在这种经济环境下的年轻MBA相对于有7-
10年经验的相对年纪大的MBA会多多少竞争力？就是因为年龄吗？
保养的好，37岁和29岁看上去长相可能差不多。身体锻炼的好，37岁的比年轻的没准还
多活几年。
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 希望当然存在
: 这世界上没绝对,正像你说的
: 0.001% 的可能性 也叫 有希望
: 并且随着排名越来靠后被录取的概率会便很大
: 因为人家就是为了赚你学费
|
e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 19 so your point is about work experience,
I totally agree with you
But LZ's situation is different:
he only has 2-3 yrs work experience as well as a big age.
what about his competitiveness comparing to 29 with 3 yrs experience before
MBA ?
7-
【在 c***s 的大作中提到】
: 我们学校就有38岁来读full time的
: 毕业以后自己创业开了个咨询公司。focus在supply chain上面的。
: 这个年龄去投行，MC的可能偏大，但是做别的一点都不嫌年纪大。
: 说实话，只有3-5年工作经验的，我不知道在现在这种经济环境下的年轻MBA相对于有7-
: 10年经验的相对年纪大的MBA会多多少竞争力？就是因为年龄吗？
: 保养的好，37岁和29岁看上去长相可能差不多。身体锻炼的好，37岁的比年轻的没准还
: 多活几年。
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a*******o
发帖数: 280 | 20 In my school, we frequently had 1 or 2 Chinese students who are 36 or 38
each year. I do not think my school admitted those students soly for their
money. If you look at other decent schools, such as INSEAD or IMD, the
number of students who are in their late 30s is even higher.
I once attended a discussion by a CEO from a fortune 500 company. He
actually told us that he was only a junior product manager when he was 40.
Based on your standard, he is probably a loser. But at least seems to me. h
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: so your point is about work experience,
: I totally agree with you
: But LZ's situation is different:
: he only has 2-3 yrs work experience as well as a big age.
: what about his competitiveness comparing to 29 with 3 yrs experience before
: MBA ?
:
: 7-
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a*******o
发帖数: 280 | 21 Why not?
【在 j*******d 的大作中提到】
: 做的是本行技术工作，供应链方面的
: 37岁了，想更提升一步，
: 读MBA的话，但又想不出哪个方向好，反正，OM/SCM的方向我是不会读了
: 大家能给些职业发展方向的建议吗？谢谢
|
e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 22 then your post should be responding to LZ directly, because it is him asking
other ID's on this board whether suitable to apply for MBA
referring to his title:
"工业工程博士毕业，三年公司工作经验，读MBA合适吗？"
I do not make any my own decisions by asking innocent ID's on this board,
but I can choose to express my own opinion to others' questions since they
asked !
Another point of yours:
yeah, each year 1 or 2 Chinese in late-30th, this is called "probability of
being admitted" I talked about. |
a*******o
发帖数: 280 | 23 People ask questions with the intent of getting sincere answers, not
bullshit. Otherwise, what is the meaning of asking quesitons on this board?
acceptance rate is defined as:
the number of students admitted/the number of students applied
Do you know how many above 35 yr applicants apply each year?
Make sure you understand your own argument before you make it!
asking
of
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: then your post should be responding to LZ directly, because it is him asking
: other ID's on this board whether suitable to apply for MBA
: referring to his title:
: "工业工程博士毕业，三年公司工作经验，读MBA合适吗？"
: I do not make any my own decisions by asking innocent ID's on this board,
: but I can choose to express my own opinion to others' questions since they
: asked !
: Another point of yours:
: yeah, each year 1 or 2 Chinese in late-30th, this is called "probability of
: being admitted" I talked about.
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g**j
发帖数: 83 | 24 我认为年龄不是问题。因为一般来说，技术背景优秀的MBA申请者与其他背景的申请者
相比，年龄都偏大些。
想armadillo提到的，要考虑的核心问题是：“Why MBA, why now, short term and
long term goalds etc. ”
如果你有了这些答案，你也就有了关于职业方向的选择。
最后推荐一本关于职业方向的书：Alternative Careers in Science: Leaving the
Ivory Tower (Scientific Survival Skills).
http://books.google.com/books?id=Vgy8gTxiPH8C&dq=Alternative+Careers+in+Science&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=froRSsyUEZbKMvbFpPEI&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4#PPP8,M1
还有一个朋友推荐的：http://www.careerleader.com/
【在 j*******d 的大作中提到】
: 做的是本行技术工作，供应链方面的
: 37岁了，想更提升一步，
: 读MBA的话，但又想不出哪个方向好，反正，OM/SCM的方向我是不会读了
: 大家能给些职业发展方向的建议吗？谢谢
|
e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 25 acceptance rate for after 35 is much less than the one for normal age range
just based on your definition.
you are saying that my answer is not sincere and bullshit, i can post your tread on board to
ban you for several days, but I do not bother to do so.
Since my opinion is constructive to LZ, it is one side of voice.
you do not need to agree, but you should respect, only in this way
you can respect yourself
?
【在 a*******o 的大作中提到】
: People ask questions with the intent of getting sincere answers, not
: bullshit. Otherwise, what is the meaning of asking quesitons on this board?
: acceptance rate is defined as:
: the number of students admitted/the number of students applied
: Do you know how many above 35 yr applicants apply each year?
: Make sure you understand your own argument before you make it!
:
: asking
: of
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a*******o
发帖数: 280 | 26 1. Can you tell me where you get the rate? I saw a couple of admission rates
breakdown by age before, seems not the same as what you said. Many schools
have students on admissions committee, maybe you have first hand experiences
. If you DO have, would you mind sharing? So the orignal poster can avoid
your school.
2. If you yourself think that your comments are bullshitting, I have nothing
to do with that.
3. Respect is to be earned from people, not demanded. Otherwise, Perez
Hilton will become
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: acceptance rate for after 35 is much less than the one for normal age range
: just based on your definition.
: you are saying that my answer is not sincere and bullshit, i can post your tread on board to
: ban you for several days, but I do not bother to do so.
: Since my opinion is constructive to LZ, it is one side of voice.
: you do not need to agree, but you should respect, only in this way
: you can respect yourself
:
: ?
|
j*******d
发帖数: 55 | |
j******l
发帖数: 1068 | 28 为什么要读，你的资历学历可以做商学院的老师了。很多OM的教授是IE出身的。
我虽然是OM的MBA，DBA走过来的，但我的路子基本同IE是一样的。现在很多商学院的OM，
为了标新立异，都搞什么Service等研究，其适用性远远不如你在IE所学的lean，SCM这
些东西。
【在 j*******d 的大作中提到】
: 做的是本行技术工作，供应链方面的
: 37岁了，想更提升一步，
: 读MBA的话，但又想不出哪个方向好，反正，OM/SCM的方向我是不会读了
: 大家能给些职业发展方向的建议吗？谢谢
|
e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 29 小心高血压爆血管
说了BS又不敢承认
还自认为是巧妙的含沙射影?! xx
我没功夫 和 你想的那么幼稚 拿BAN来威胁你
有用吗?
和疯狗继续咬下去,我没兴趣
也没必要逐一回答你的问题
而且,我现在不想去读你那狗屁长的狗屁问题
也更不想动脑回答噢~
对了,你又要幼稚的说:
被我问倒了吧,回答不上来了吧
XX
rates
schools
experiences
nothing
【在 a*******o 的大作中提到】
: 1. Can you tell me where you get the rate? I saw a couple of admission rates
: breakdown by age before, seems not the same as what you said. Many schools
: have students on admissions committee, maybe you have first hand experiences
: . If you DO have, would you mind sharing? So the orignal poster can avoid
: your school.
: 2. If you yourself think that your comments are bullshitting, I have nothing
: to do with that.
: 3. Respect is to be earned from people, not demanded. Otherwise, Perez
: Hilton will become
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 30 是不是来这个版的见到一个工科PHD就崇拜的不得了阿
请用脚趾头想:
35岁才博士毕业
或者
做了NNNN年POST-DOC,又不能在学术界立足
而才能找到INDUSTRY工作的人
到底有多优秀
又怎么有自立做商学院老师呢?
说话不要太夸张阿!
OM，
【在 j******l 的大作中提到】
: 为什么要读，你的资历学历可以做商学院的老师了。很多OM的教授是IE出身的。
: 我虽然是OM的MBA，DBA走过来的，但我的路子基本同IE是一样的。现在很多商学院的OM，
: 为了标新立异，都搞什么Service等研究，其适用性远远不如你在IE所学的lean，SCM这
: 些东西。
|
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A*L
发帖数: 2357 | 31 每个人都有自己不同的路，有人走了弯路，有人一直都很顺利，
不过谁笑到最后谁笑得最好。
没有必要就一个年龄还衡定一个人的成败。
35岁获得也好，25岁获得也好，都是PhD，做出的成就就一定25岁的比35岁的强吗？没
有一个人敢打包票。
当年有些同学考大学的时候，分数很高，结果进了著名的生科院，以后的出路比较窄，
但是他们中间很多人并不因此就放弃自己的梦想，就想方设法地改变。我见到过45岁才
开始考医生执照的，他就比30岁的年轻医生失败吗？只要一个人知道困难，但是还是勇
于改变，这就是一种勇气。应该鼓励，没有人说前面的路会很简单，但是一味地否定并
不能带来正面的效果。
同学，没有必要这么arrogant，宽以待人也不失一种美德。另一方面的话可以说，但是
不用过于尖酸刻薄。
来这个版的人，可能有人在美国已经摸爬滚打很多年了，半瓶子的水才叮当响。
SCM这
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 是不是来这个版的见到一个工科PHD就崇拜的不得了阿
: 请用脚趾头想:
: 35岁才博士毕业
: 或者
: 做了NNNN年POST-DOC,又不能在学术界立足
: 而才能找到INDUSTRY工作的人
: 到底有多优秀
: 又怎么有自立做商学院老师呢?
: 说话不要太夸张阿!
:
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i******l
发帖数: 828 | 32 并且随着排名越来靠后被录取的概率会便很大---你是说出了HSW其他都是交钱就上？
现在这么容易阿。。 我老年轻的时候。。 不说了。。。
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 希望当然存在
: 这世界上没绝对,正像你说的
: 0.001% 的可能性 也叫 有希望
: 并且随着排名越来靠后被录取的概率会便很大
: 因为人家就是为了赚你学费
|
j*******d
发帖数: 55 | 33 看来您是faculty。我依旧认为faculty是个很好的选择，尽管我已经选择了工业界。
文章发表，学校导师名气，教书经验，商学院现在很难进，供大于求，竞争相当激烈。
我也得生活，所以就选择了工业界，不敢抱着学术界不放。
商学院的OM，一来是如您所说标新立异，二来传统的制造业学术发展空间不大，必须寻
求其他的领域开拓，另外，因为是商学院，所以要和工程系区分开，研究领域要更商化
，减少工程化，所以，就发展到了服务业，三来不少OM的学生老师没有实际生产制造运
作的背景，背景分布很广：工程，数学，计算机，商科。。。所以，就纯粹以发文章为
目的，编文章，玩数学，这一行，很多概念实际上时工业界现有的，或先提出的，然后
，学术界利用它们，来写文章，复杂化。
OM，
【在 j******l 的大作中提到】
: 为什么要读，你的资历学历可以做商学院的老师了。很多OM的教授是IE出身的。
: 我虽然是OM的MBA，DBA走过来的，但我的路子基本同IE是一样的。现在很多商学院的OM，
: 为了标新立异，都搞什么Service等研究，其适用性远远不如你在IE所学的lean，SCM这
: 些东西。
|
j******l
发帖数: 1068 | 34 崇拜个屁，我自己是faculty，我本科是工科的，有什么好崇拜lz的。
但是，IE的毕业生到商学院任教的多的是了，特别是名牌大学的。你自己可以查查
Gatech，
Northweastern等的IE毕业生有多少是到商学院的。
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 是不是来这个版的见到一个工科PHD就崇拜的不得了阿
: 请用脚趾头想:
: 35岁才博士毕业
: 或者
: 做了NNNN年POST-DOC,又不能在学术界立足
: 而才能找到INDUSTRY工作的人
: 到底有多优秀
: 又怎么有自立做商学院老师呢?
: 说话不要太夸张阿!
:
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 35 the facts from LZ's first post of his situation, says all:
If he is outstanding enough, no matter what age, he has already been
teaching in business school.
Besides, I do not think there are that many like you described can become
faculty in B-school.
【在 j******l 的大作中提到】
: 崇拜个屁，我自己是faculty，我本科是工科的，有什么好崇拜lz的。
: 但是，IE的毕业生到商学院任教的多的是了，特别是名牌大学的。你自己可以查查
: Gatech，
: Northweastern等的IE毕业生有多少是到商学院的。
|
e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 36 my last thread you responded
was not about potential
was about the fact in history of LZ
was not about the courage to change at what age,
was about LZ never changed but so looong research history without
outstanding indication of his academic accomplishment in one direction, but
he never changed.
Please talk about specific case, do not extend.
If based on your optimistic attitude, if you were admission committee, you
even couldn't choose applicants from their GPA or GMAT, because you can
always
【在 A*L 的大作中提到】
: 每个人都有自己不同的路，有人走了弯路，有人一直都很顺利，
: 不过谁笑到最后谁笑得最好。
: 没有必要就一个年龄还衡定一个人的成败。
: 35岁获得也好，25岁获得也好，都是PhD，做出的成就就一定25岁的比35岁的强吗？没
: 有一个人敢打包票。
: 当年有些同学考大学的时候，分数很高，结果进了著名的生科院，以后的出路比较窄，
: 但是他们中间很多人并不因此就放弃自己的梦想，就想方设法地改变。我见到过45岁才
: 开始考医生执照的，他就比30岁的年轻医生失败吗？只要一个人知道困难，但是还是勇
: 于改变，这就是一种勇气。应该鼓励，没有人说前面的路会很简单，但是一味地否定并
: 不能带来正面的效果。
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 37 you heard of B-schools > 20 in ranking, huh ?
【在 i******l 的大作中提到】
: 并且随着排名越来靠后被录取的概率会便很大---你是说出了HSW其他都是交钱就上？
: 现在这么容易阿。。 我老年轻的时候。。 不说了。。。
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a*******o
发帖数: 280 | 38 This is my last post to your reply since people clearly already have an idea
of what kind of individual you are . In addition, it is not my responsbility to
make you 有教养
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: 小心高血压爆血管
: 说了BS又不敢承认
: 还自认为是巧妙的含沙射影?! xx
: 我没功夫 和 你想的那么幼稚 拿BAN来威胁你
: 有用吗?
: 和疯狗继续咬下去,我没兴趣
: 也没必要逐一回答你的问题
: 而且,我现在不想去读你那狗屁长的狗屁问题
: 也更不想动脑回答噢~
: 对了,你又要幼稚的说:
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 39 那就省省吧
反正我也不爱搭理你的POST
自己在那教养着吧
还指爹骂娘呢，你教养真高
idea
responsbility to
【在 a*******o 的大作中提到】
: This is my last post to your reply since people clearly already have an idea
: of what kind of individual you are . In addition, it is not my responsbility to
: make you 有教养
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j*******d
发帖数: 55 | 40 You are not in my area; your degree is not in Engineering/Business; you
never had any experience of finding a faculty job in OM. Of course, you can
judge people to make yourself feel good. Again, the competition for a
faculty job in B school/IE is insane.
My research history is not so long, and I didn't do any postdoc. You have
the gift to be a MBA (I assume that you are not a MBA yet; I guess I am
right); you talk a lot about something you know and something you don't know
at all.
"was about LZ
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: my last thread you responded
: was not about potential
: was about the fact in history of LZ
: was not about the courage to change at what age,
: was about LZ never changed but so looong research history without
: outstanding indication of his academic accomplishment in one direction, but
: he never changed.
: Please talk about specific case, do not extend.
: If based on your optimistic attitude, if you were admission committee, you
: even couldn't choose applicants from their GPA or GMAT, because you can
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A*L
发帖数: 2357 | 41 well, the point is admission committee may not choose candidates just based
on GPA or GMAT, otherwise this game is too easy. We just need a filter to
select. That is LZ's responsibility to show the potential or differentiate
himself, even though you already cast the shadow on the hope like many other
people may.
The world does need rules, but does not need hard coded ruler.
PERIOD
but
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: my last thread you responded
: was not about potential
: was about the fact in history of LZ
: was not about the courage to change at what age,
: was about LZ never changed but so looong research history without
: outstanding indication of his academic accomplishment in one direction, but
: he never changed.
: Please talk about specific case, do not extend.
: If based on your optimistic attitude, if you were admission committee, you
: even couldn't choose applicants from their GPA or GMAT, because you can
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j******l
发帖数: 1068 | 42 你如果真想做faculty，一个是发paper。如果不行的话，我推荐你从新读个学校的OM
phD
University of Texas，Dallas。
这个学校的MBA虽然只是50名，但研究是17位，OM就更强，排第5（以在MS，OR，MSOM，
JOM，POMS发文章算出）。这所学校由于不是名校，不是很难进，博士毕业后基本都能
到或好或差的大学作faculty。
【在 j*******d 的大作中提到】
: 看来您是faculty。我依旧认为faculty是个很好的选择，尽管我已经选择了工业界。
: 文章发表，学校导师名气，教书经验，商学院现在很难进，供大于求，竞争相当激烈。
: 我也得生活，所以就选择了工业界，不敢抱着学术界不放。
: 商学院的OM，一来是如您所说标新立异，二来传统的制造业学术发展空间不大，必须寻
: 求其他的领域开拓，另外，因为是商学院，所以要和工程系区分开，研究领域要更商化
: ，减少工程化，所以，就发展到了服务业，三来不少OM的学生老师没有实际生产制造运
: 作的背景，背景分布很广：工程，数学，计算机，商科。。。所以，就纯粹以发文章为
: 目的，编文章，玩数学，这一行，很多概念实际上时工业界现有的，或先提出的，然后
: ，学术界利用它们，来写文章，复杂化。
:
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 43 your research history is not so long as you said
but you did not indicate your whole academic/professional history at all in
your first post.
If you are seeking constructive suggestions, you'd better give a more
detailed and well-rounded info about yourself
Based on your limited bio, i could only deduce that you just worked for 3
yrs, and before that, it must be academic research until 34.
As you also said below, competition of faculty in OM is insane,
which means you are not competitive and exc
【在 j*******d 的大作中提到】
: You are not in my area; your degree is not in Engineering/Business; you
: never had any experience of finding a faculty job in OM. Of course, you can
: judge people to make yourself feel good. Again, the competition for a
: faculty job in B school/IE is insane.
: My research history is not so long, and I didn't do any postdoc. You have
: the gift to be a MBA (I assume that you are not a MBA yet; I guess I am
: right); you talk a lot about something you know and something you don't know
: at all.
: "was about LZ
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | |
e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 45 GPA was just an example to show that this world needs some established
standards to measure ppl.
it is every candidate's responsibility to differentiate itself,
hard to say than to do esp. when simple standards are not passed.
based
other
【在 A*L 的大作中提到】
: well, the point is admission committee may not choose candidates just based
: on GPA or GMAT, otherwise this game is too easy. We just need a filter to
: select. That is LZ's responsibility to show the potential or differentiate
: himself, even though you already cast the shadow on the hope like many other
: people may.
: The world does need rules, but does not need hard coded ruler.
: PERIOD
:
: but
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j*****t
发帖数: 5475 | 46 shut up with your so called "constructive suggestions". you have not
even been been accepted by a b-school yet. many IDs on this board
have either graduated from or are currently in a b-school. all of
them much more qualified to comment on OP's situation than someone
who can just brag about a 770 GMAT.
in
please.
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: your research history is not so long as you said
: but you did not indicate your whole academic/professional history at all in
: your first post.
: If you are seeking constructive suggestions, you'd better give a more
: detailed and well-rounded info about yourself
: Based on your limited bio, i could only deduce that you just worked for 3
: yrs, and before that, it must be academic research until 34.
: As you also said below, competition of faculty in OM is insane,
: which means you are not competitive and exc
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j*******d
发帖数: 55 | 47 Again, you are not in my area, don't judge my life and my work. I am not
competitive and excellent enough to become one in a top B school. I know it
and I face it, that is why I choose to work in industry, and don't mind
asking a question on this board and see what I can get with my age and
background.
Again, don't judge my life and my work. I am seeking constructive
suggestions. You may igore my question since you are still thinking of
applying for a MBA program, you are not a prof. in a top b
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: your research history is not so long as you said
: but you did not indicate your whole academic/professional history at all in
: your first post.
: If you are seeking constructive suggestions, you'd better give a more
: detailed and well-rounded info about yourself
: Based on your limited bio, i could only deduce that you just worked for 3
: yrs, and before that, it must be academic research until 34.
: As you also said below, competition of faculty in OM is insane,
: which means you are not competitive and exc
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f******3
发帖数: 27 | 48 啥叫principle engineer?很牛吗？ |
j******l
发帖数: 1068 | 49 从工业界回大学４０出头拿到ＯＭ博士学位的我见的多了．如果研究搞得不错，在好的
商学院拿到ｆａｃｕｌｔｙ位置也不是难事．
美国最大的好处就是没有年龄歧视．
ＢＴＷ，５０多岁毕业拿到教职的我都见过２位． |
D*****a
发帖数: 2847 | 50 不过楼主第一帖就说了不想再读OM了。再熬5年，不太可能。。
【在 j******l 的大作中提到】
: 从工业界回大学４０出头拿到ＯＭ博士学位的我见的多了．如果研究搞得不错，在好的
: 商学院拿到ｆａｃｕｌｔｙ位置也不是难事．
: 美国最大的好处就是没有年龄歧视．
: ＢＴＷ，５０多岁毕业拿到教职的我都见过２位．
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 51 you are actually judging ppl, too
you suppose a prof. in a top b-school is qualified and
i do not know any about your area
and you are right, nobody here knows about you
only yourself
it
important
【在 j*******d 的大作中提到】
: Again, you are not in my area, don't judge my life and my work. I am not
: competitive and excellent enough to become one in a top B school. I know it
: and I face it, that is why I choose to work in industry, and don't mind
: asking a question on this board and see what I can get with my age and
: background.
: Again, don't judge my life and my work. I am seeking constructive
: suggestions. You may igore my question since you are still thinking of
: applying for a MBA program, you are not a prof. in a top b
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 52 i rejected 2 offers last year from top-1o b-schools
since mba is just one choice of mine, and it does not need to be the only
one.
why cannot ppl not in b-school give constructive suggestions ?
you really like to brag about yourself
who thinks U-mich is the best b-school on the earth as some Id told me
Oh BTW
770 GMAT was my disappointment, nothing to brag about.
I apologize if I unintentionally hurt someone's feelings.
【在 j*****t 的大作中提到】
: shut up with your so called "constructive suggestions". you have not
: even been been accepted by a b-school yet. many IDs on this board
: have either graduated from or are currently in a b-school. all of
: them much more qualified to comment on OP's situation than someone
: who can just brag about a 770 GMAT.
:
: in
: please.
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 53 this is some sorts of typical career ladder technical professional
experience as they get older
in engineers:
engineer => senior => principle
usually a PhD will eventually become principle title when they get older,
simply b/c they cannot climb onto management positions or they enjoy the technical part.
【在 f******3 的大作中提到】
: 啥叫principle engineer?很牛吗？
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A*L
发帖数: 2357 | 54 Those are general rules, if we always follow the general rules, I guess it
is hard to stand out. People are famous for making brave choice and trying
different taks in order to accomplish unbelievable taks.
Before 1980, anyone heard that physical scientist could be in finance
industry, probably not. People go their ways to open their own career door
or even lead into a new field. That is the passion and that makes this world
not that boring.
Standards are rigid, could apply to general, but still
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: GPA was just an example to show that this world needs some established
: standards to measure ppl.
: it is every candidate's responsibility to differentiate itself,
: hard to say than to do esp. when simple standards are not passed.
:
: based
: other
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l****n
发帖数: 43 | 55 这个叫elainee 真他妈烦啊！我一路过的，都厌烦了
in
please.
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: your research history is not so long as you said
: but you did not indicate your whole academic/professional history at all in
: your first post.
: If you are seeking constructive suggestions, you'd better give a more
: detailed and well-rounded info about yourself
: Based on your limited bio, i could only deduce that you just worked for 3
: yrs, and before that, it must be academic research until 34.
: As you also said below, competition of faculty in OM is insane,
: which means you are not competitive and exc
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i******l
发帖数: 828 | 56 大侠能否说一下你巨了哪两家学笑阿。 我老也瞻仰一下
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: i rejected 2 offers last year from top-1o b-schools
: since mba is just one choice of mine, and it does not need to be the only
: one.
: why cannot ppl not in b-school give constructive suggestions ?
: you really like to brag about yourself
: who thinks U-mich is the best b-school on the earth as some Id told me
: Oh BTW
: 770 GMAT was my disappointment, nothing to brag about.
: I apologize if I unintentionally hurt someone's feelings.
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c***s
发帖数: 1292 | 57 今年4月在问那个申请帮助的服务好的人，你认为去年就拿到top 10?
发信人: elainee (elaine), 信区: Business
标 题: 谁用过MBA申请帮助的服务?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 2 19:04:02 2009)
给推荐一下,哪个觉着好,为什么
【在 i******l 的大作中提到】
: 大侠能否说一下你巨了哪两家学笑阿。 我老也瞻仰一下
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j*****t
发帖数: 5475 | 58 你这火眼金睛
but i think our friend is gonna come back and say
'i rejected Umich 'coz i think only H/S/W is
worthwhile'.
【在 c***s 的大作中提到】
: 今年4月在问那个申请帮助的服务好的人，你认为去年就拿到top 10?
: 发信人: elainee (elaine), 信区: Business
: 标 题: 谁用过MBA申请帮助的服务?
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 2 19:04:02 2009)
: 给推荐一下,哪个觉着好,为什么
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 59 why would i tell u why ?
【在 j*****t 的大作中提到】
: 你这火眼金睛
: but i think our friend is gonna come back and say
: 'i rejected Umich 'coz i think only H/S/W is
: worthwhile'.
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A*L
发帖数: 2357 | 60 西外果然厉害。。。。。不动声色。。。
本来我想转quant版上某人前段时间问的问题，想想算了，结果还是有人揭底。
【在 c***s 的大作中提到】
: 今年4月在问那个申请帮助的服务好的人，你认为去年就拿到top 10?
: 发信人: elainee (elaine), 信区: Business
: 标 题: 谁用过MBA申请帮助的服务?
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 2 19:04:02 2009)
: 给推荐一下,哪个觉着好,为什么
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 61 Is that question related too ?
haha
【在 A*L 的大作中提到】
: 西外果然厉害。。。。。不动声色。。。
: 本来我想转quant版上某人前段时间问的问题，想想算了，结果还是有人揭底。
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 62 I am asking for the application services,
since I am doing this type of business.
there is other reasons except for just applying to MBA oneself.
【在 c***s 的大作中提到】
: 今年4月在问那个申请帮助的服务好的人，你认为去年就拿到top 10?
: 发信人: elainee (elaine), 信区: Business
: 标 题: 谁用过MBA申请帮助的服务?
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 2 19:04:02 2009)
: 给推荐一下,哪个觉着好,为什么
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i******l
发帖数: 828 | 63 到底哪里录取你了。。 说说巴， 如果刚好是我老要申请得。 我老可以hire you for
help... 吸吸
不想公开讨论就站内邮箱巴。 谢谢
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: I am asking for the application services,
: since I am doing this type of business.
: there is other reasons except for just applying to MBA oneself.
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A*L
发帖数: 2357 | 64 so? hohooo
【在 e*****e 的大作中提到】
: Is that question related too ?
: haha
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h****d
发帖数: 1420 | |
z***t
发帖数: 110 | 66
LZ 已经拿到OM博士了
这话说得太理想主义了
【在 j******l 的大作中提到】
: 从工业界回大学４０出头拿到ＯＭ博士学位的我见的多了．如果研究搞得不错，在好的
: 商学院拿到ｆａｃｕｌｔｙ位置也不是难事．
: 美国最大的好处就是没有年龄歧视．
: ＢＴＷ，５０多岁毕业拿到教职的我都见过２位．
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