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c*******e
发帖数: 5818
1
刚看season 1到 11 AM,扫了一下剧透,怎么nina是真正的mole,她基本一直在帮jack
吧,还有既然她杀了Jamey,就说明她知道些这个计划,她怎么也得配合自己的主子,
是不是不太合理。
a******a
发帖数: 1137
2
这里的解释是nina不是这个组织安排进来的卧底,她有她自己的任务,而且她的任务不
是无保留协助第一季的坏人
(但是我比较倾向于是后期编剧刻意制造的反转,然后增加一些细节来增强说服力,但
是无法回避一些和开始矛盾的bug)

jack

【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】
: 刚看season 1到 11 AM,扫了一下剧透,怎么nina是真正的mole,她基本一直在帮jack
: 吧,还有既然她杀了Jamey,就说明她知道些这个计划,她怎么也得配合自己的主子,
: 是不是不太合理。

s********r
发帖数: 312
3
Nina是独立的,她就是潜伏CTU里面,恐怖组织来找她,她收钱干活,相当于for hire
。所以她首要目的是保全自己
c*******e
发帖数: 5818
4
好,我在往后看看,看是不是make sense。
现在,她要是独立的,就不应杀jamey,这很容易暴露,要是怕jamey供出gains,连累
她,那她就应该在知道jack要找到gains藏身处时启副作用。

hire

【在 s********r 的大作中提到】
: Nina是独立的,她就是潜伏CTU里面,恐怖组织来找她,她收钱干活,相当于for hire
: 。所以她首要目的是保全自己

c*******e
发帖数: 5818
5
刚看season 1到 11 AM,扫了一下剧透,怎么nina是真正的mole,她基本一直在帮jack
吧,还有既然她杀了Jamey,就说明她知道些这个计划,她怎么也得配合自己的主子,
是不是不太合理。
a******a
发帖数: 1137
6
这里的解释是nina不是这个组织安排进来的卧底,她有她自己的任务,而且她的任务不
是无保留协助第一季的坏人
(但是我比较倾向于是后期编剧刻意制造的反转,然后增加一些细节来增强说服力,但
是无法回避一些和开始矛盾的bug)

jack

【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】
: 刚看season 1到 11 AM,扫了一下剧透,怎么nina是真正的mole,她基本一直在帮jack
: 吧,还有既然她杀了Jamey,就说明她知道些这个计划,她怎么也得配合自己的主子,
: 是不是不太合理。

s********r
发帖数: 312
7
Nina是独立的,她就是潜伏CTU里面,恐怖组织来找她,她收钱干活,相当于for hire
。所以她首要目的是保全自己
c*******e
发帖数: 5818
8
好,我在往后看看,看是不是make sense。
现在,她要是独立的,就不应杀jamey,这很容易暴露,要是怕jamey供出gains,连累
她,那她就应该在知道jack要找到gains藏身处时启副作用。

hire

【在 s********r 的大作中提到】
: Nina是独立的,她就是潜伏CTU里面,恐怖组织来找她,她收钱干活,相当于for hire
: 。所以她首要目的是保全自己

c*******e
发帖数: 5818
9
看完了,nina根本不make sense,就是一败笔。
1. 她杀Jemey,根本没必要,Jemey这条线根她一点儿关系都没有,她没有任何危险
2. 她要是想帮Drazon,真的没必要等到最后,只要在中间使点绊子就行了,因为jack
一直信任她,没必要等到最后那么困难时候才出手。
bottom line is:她要是work alone,没必要为了Drazon暴露自己,如要帮,应早下手
,她有的是机会。她仍可能是mole,应该为了其它更值得或重要的任务。编剧有些着急
,season 2再设计一个把她dispose就行了。
下面看看season 2

【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】
: 好,我在往后看看,看是不是make sense。
: 现在,她要是独立的,就不应杀jamey,这很容易暴露,要是怕jamey供出gains,连累
: 她,那她就应该在知道jack要找到gains藏身处时启副作用。
:
: hire

c*******e
发帖数: 5818
10
just find these, it starts making some sense, but still with some doubt.
//////
Richard Walsh warns Jack, "Don't trust anybody, not even your own people,
Jack."
Early in the series, Richard Walsh gives Jack a keycard and tells him that
whoever's electronic signature is on the card is the dirty agent. Nina's
signature is on the card.
When Jack confronts Nina about the keycard, she deflects his suspicion by
pointing out that she was with him in Santa Barbara (during their affair)
the day it was last used at CTU headquarters -- and therefore someone else
must have used it that day to set her up.
In fact, she altered the date on the keycard to cover her tracks.
The dead shooter's thumb (cut off by Jack in an early episode) yields no I.D
. CTU speculates the only explanation is that "either this guy doesn't exist
or else he has some friends in very high places."
Nina erased the records from the database.
Nina calls Teri in the car and tells her that the dead body Jack found was
Alan York's, thus alerting Teri that the man she is riding with in the car
is not Alan York.
Nina was not aware of Gaines or the details of his plan, and thus did not
know the significance of the name Alan York, or that telling Teri would tip
her off that she was riding with the man assigned to kidnap her.
Jack shoots Nina, per Gaines.
Nina and Gaines did not know of each other's existence. So, when Gaines
ordered Jack to shoot Nina, he didn't know she was on his side.
Nina helps catch Jamey.
Nina wanted to deflect her own involvement by fingering Jamey.
Nina purposefully brings Kim and Teri to the safe house, essentially setting
a trap for them to be recaptured. She then leads Teri to realize that she
and Jack were lovers, turning Teri against her and giving her an excuse to
leave.
Once Alexis is stabbed and taken into custody, Nina doesn't tell the Drazens.
Telling the Drazens about Alexis does not further her objective, which is to
ensure that Palmer is assassinated by the end of the day.
The Drazens capture Kim as she is being returned to the detention facility.
Nina told the Drazens where to find Kim, to provide them with leverage to
force Jack to kill Palmer.
The Drazens want Jack and his family dead. Why doesn't Nina just kill Kim
and Teri when she has the chance?
Nina's objective is Palmer's assassination and not the deaths of Jack's
family members.
Nina helps Jack loyally throughout the season.
Nina knows that she is more powerful with Jack's confidence than without.

jack

【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】
: 看完了,nina根本不make sense,就是一败笔。
: 1. 她杀Jemey,根本没必要,Jemey这条线根她一点儿关系都没有,她没有任何危险
: 2. 她要是想帮Drazon,真的没必要等到最后,只要在中间使点绊子就行了,因为jack
: 一直信任她,没必要等到最后那么困难时候才出手。
: bottom line is:她要是work alone,没必要为了Drazon暴露自己,如要帮,应早下手
: ,她有的是机会。她仍可能是mole,应该为了其它更值得或重要的任务。编剧有些着急
: ,season 2再设计一个把她dispose就行了。
: 下面看看season 2

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