a**n
发帖数: 2431 | 1 不知道参议院能不能加赛点技术移民的东西
老印实力还是不行啊
更别说老中了
这种机会就是抓不住
非法走到合法前面了 |
m******a
发帖数: 1394 | |
d*******p
发帖数: 2525 | 3 大家都发动起来联系议员吧，首要目标就是阻止dream通过，如果不行，至少也要加塞
合法移民的法案吧，现在搞得非法比合法优先了 |
d1
发帖数: 1213 | 4 this is really unfair for those law-abidings...
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: 不知道参议院能不能加赛点技术移民的东西
: 老印实力还是不行啊
: 更别说老中了
: 这种机会就是抓不住
: 非法走到合法前面了
|
L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 5 I will not oppose Dream act but I think it is unfair to legal immigrate..
"come to the U.S. before the age of 16; be under the age of 30; lived in the
country for five years; pass a criminal background test; and have a high
school diploma or GED equivalent" seems so easy to be qualified..
legal immigrant who came to this country after 20, spent 4-5 years getting
an advanced degree, working and paying tax for another couple of years
easily beat these "dreamers" to be more qualified to be given a green card. |
C******e
发帖数: 1850 | 6 relax, the senate will kill it for sure. |
Q*K
发帖数: 3464 | 7 the dream act is bullshit
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: 不知道参议院能不能加赛点技术移民的东西
: 老印实力还是不行啊
: 更别说老中了
: 这种机会就是抓不住
: 非法走到合法前面了
|
m******a
发帖数: 1394 | 8 I will write a letter to our state's senator this weekend, we should do
everything to stop the bullshit act. |
a**n
发帖数: 2431 | 9 by the time you write the letter the bill is already passed in senate...
too late
合法移民真的是太好欺负了
nnd
【在 m******a 的大作中提到】
: I will write a letter to our state's senator this weekend, we should do
: everything to stop the bullshit act.
|
s******n
发帖数: 2279 | 10 抓紧生娃吧，这人口数是选票，哪个党都爱啊
而且现在参院是民主党控制的，不通过也难吧，BAILOUT也说不会，医保改革也说不会
，结果呢？
只想说真TMD王八蛋政策，中国留学生个个都该15岁偷渡打工，考个屁高考GRE啊，
只有穿越沙漠的才是有梦想的，买飞机票过海关交税的就是给美国增加负担的
这种SB政策也只有这种SB制度才能产生了 |
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c*********n
发帖数: 1371 | 11 英语里的FK ME应该就是在这个情节下用的。。。。。。
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: 不知道参议院能不能加赛点技术移民的东西
: 老印实力还是不行啊
: 更别说老中了
: 这种机会就是抓不住
: 非法走到合法前面了
|
S*******r
发帖数: 11017 | 12 没有那么严重了，大家请看：
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act
2010
The 111th Congress continued to consider the DREAM Act bill throughout 2010.
S.3992, a new version of the DREAM Act, includes numerous changes to
address concerns raised about the bill. Among other things, S. 3992:
Does not repeal the ban on in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants. The
DREAM Act would not allow undocumented immigrants to receive in-state
tuition. The DREAM Act also continues to prohibit students from obtaining
Pell and other federal grants.
Lowers the age cap for eligibility for the DREAM Act to 29 on the date of
enactment. Additionally, in order to be eligible, individuals still must
have come to the U.S. as a child (15 or under) and be a long-term resident (
at least 5 years). An earlier version of the DREAM Act (S. 1545 in the 108th
Congress), authored by Republican Senator Orrin Hatch and cosponsored by
Senator John McCain, did not include any age cap. This bill was approved by
the Republican-controlled Senate Judiciary Committee on a 16-3 vote.
Does not grant legal immigrant status to anyone for at least 10 years.
Previous versions of the DREAM Act would have immediately granted legal
immigrant status to individuals who met the bill’s requirements. Under S.
3992, an individual could obtain “conditional nonimmigrant” status if he
proves that he meets the age (currently 29 or under and arrived in the U.S.
at 15 or under) and residency requirements (5 years or more) and:
Has graduated from an American high school or obtained a GED;
Has been a person of “good moral character,” as determined by the
Department of Homeland Security, from the date the individual initially
entered the U.S. (previous versions of the DREAM Act only required an
individual to be a person of good moral character from the date of the bill
’s enactment);
Submits biometric information;
Undergoes security and law-enforcement background checks;
Undergoes a medical examination; and
Registers for the Selective Service.
Further limits eligibility for conditional nonimmigrant status by
specifically excluding anyone who:
Has committed one felony or three misdemeanors;
Is likely to become a public charge;
Has engaged in voter fraud or unlawful voting;
Has committed marriage fraud;
Has abused a student visa;
Has engaged in persecution; or
Poses a public health risk.
Gives a conditional non-immigrant the chance to earn legal immigrant status
only after 10 years and only if he meets the DREAM Act’s college or
military service requirements, and other requirements, e.g., pays back taxes
and demonstrates the ability to read, write, and speak English and
demonstrates knowledge and understanding of the fundamentals of the history,
principles, and form of government of the United States.
Further limits "chain migration." DREAM Act individuals would have very
limited ability to sponsor family members for U.S. citizenship. They could
never sponsor extended family members and they could not begin sponsoring
parents or siblings for at least 12 years. Parents and siblings who entered
the U.S. illegally would have to leave the country for ten years before they
could gain legal status and the visa backlog for siblings is decades long.
Specifically excludes non-immigrants from the health insurance exchanges
created by the Affordable Care Act. Conditional non-immigrants also would be
ineligible for Medicaid, Food Stamps and other entitlement programs.
Establishes a one-year application deadline. An individual would be required
to apply for conditional nonimmigrant status within one year of obtaining a
high school degree or GED, being admitted to college, or the bill’s date
of enactment.
Requires anyone applying for the DREAM Act to show that he is likely to
qualify in order to receive a stay of deportation while his application is
pending. The DREAM Act is not a safe harbor from deportation.
Requires the Department of Homeland Security to provide information from an
individual’s DREAM Act application to any federal, state, tribal, or local
law enforcement agency, or intelligence or national security agency in any
criminal investigation or prosecution or for homeland security or national
security purposes.
Places the burden of proof on a DREAM Act applicant. An individual would be
required to demonstrate eligibility for the DREAM Act by a preponderance of
the evidence.
首先这是一个被妥协的版本，因此年龄要求更高：15岁之前来美，现在30岁以下。比之
前那个18岁之前来美，现在35岁以下的要求更严。
其次，这些符合条件的人“earn legal immigrant status only after 10 years and
only if he meets the DREAM Act’s college or military service requirements,
and other requirements”。十年之内没有任何直接福利。好比是现在给他们一个“EB
-6”类别，排期是十年。
最后不用担心老墨可以用这个全家移民:Further limits "chain migration." DREAM
Act individuals would have very limited ability to sponsor family members
for U.S. citizenship. They could never sponsor extended family members and
they could not begin sponsoring parents or siblings for at least 12 years.
Parents and siblings who entered the U.S. illegally would have to leave the
country for ten years before they could gain legal status and the visa
backlog for siblings is decades long.
同志们，马照跑，舞照跳。 |
f***i
发帖数: 185 | 13 really?
i do not find any news showing up about senate passage
do you have any link?
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: by the time you write the letter the bill is already passed in senate...
: too late
: 合法移民真的是太好欺负了
: nnd
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z***e
发帖数: 1757 | 14 No chance for it to get 60 votes in the senate to defeat the filibuster by
the republicans. This is just political theater. |
f***i
发帖数: 185 | 15 it seems that DEM still dominates the house. is it true?
if so, senate must pass the act.
otherwise any change will send the bill to the house again,
and at that time GOP-dominated house will kill it.
am I correct?
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: No chance for it to get 60 votes in the senate to defeat the filibuster by
: the republicans. This is just political theater.
|
S******8
发帖数: 24594 | 16 奥巴马刚说了，要通过非法移民来提高人口素质来和中国竞争未来 |
S*******r
发帖数: 11017 | 17 哈哈 我可以把这句话转去JOKE版吗？
【在 S******8 的大作中提到】
: 奥巴马刚说了，要通过非法移民来提高人口素质来和中国竞争未来
|
S******8
发帖数: 24594 | 18 sure
【在 S*******r 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈 我可以把这句话转去JOKE版吗？
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p*****e
发帖数: 836 | 19 You are so right. Ph.D, or Ph.PH.D is meaningless to them. They only care 选
票. If you can help them to bring more votes, you will be in considerations.
Who cares whether you contribute more or less to country.
【在 s******n 的大作中提到】
: 抓紧生娃吧，这人口数是选票，哪个党都爱啊
: 而且现在参院是民主党控制的，不通过也难吧，BAILOUT也说不会，医保改革也说不会
: ，结果呢？
: 只想说真TMD王八蛋政策，中国留学生个个都该15岁偷渡打工，考个屁高考GRE啊，
: 只有穿越沙漠的才是有梦想的，买飞机票过海关交税的就是给美国增加负担的
: 这种SB政策也只有这种SB制度才能产生了
|
z***e
发帖数: 1757 | 20 not really. there is no "otherwise" as you mentioned. there won't be any
debate on the bill in the senate due to GOP filibuster. end of story for
this congress.
【在 f***i 的大作中提到】
: it seems that DEM still dominates the house. is it true?
: if so, senate must pass the act.
: otherwise any change will send the bill to the house again,
: and at that time GOP-dominated house will kill it.
: am I correct?
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f***i
发帖数: 185 | 21 then what about next congress?
this house passage will have no effect on the next congress. is that true?
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: not really. there is no "otherwise" as you mentioned. there won't be any
: debate on the bill in the senate due to GOP filibuster. end of story for
: this congress.
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z***e
发帖数: 1757 | 22 each congress has a two year term. each bill has to pass both House and
Senate of the same congress, and signed by the president at the time for it
to become law. So the passage of Dream Act in the house now won't mean
anything when the new year starts.
【在 f***i 的大作中提到】
: then what about next congress?
: this house passage will have no effect on the next congress. is that true?
|
a**n
发帖数: 2431 | 23 why are you so sure ?
seems this time they will make it
Senate will vote very soon
Just lost a good chance to add the recapture proposal
it
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: each congress has a two year term. each bill has to pass both House and
: Senate of the same congress, and signed by the president at the time for it
: to become law. So the passage of Dream Act in the house now won't mean
: anything when the new year starts.
|
g**e
发帖数: 6127 | 24 let's wait and see. it's just a joke
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: why are you so sure ?
: seems this time they will make it
: Senate will vote very soon
: Just lost a good chance to add the recapture proposal
:
: it
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a**n
发帖数: 2431 | 25 I am not quite sure who is a joke
they are getting closer and closer each time,
and I am pretty sure they - illegals - will get ahead of us
【在 g**e 的大作中提到】
: let's wait and see. it's just a joke
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g**e
发帖数: 6127 | 26 what make u think u r superior than "illegals"?
even if they get ahead of us, that's because they've done concrete work on
pushing the bills.
suck it up
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: I am not quite sure who is a joke
: they are getting closer and closer each time,
: and I am pretty sure they - illegals - will get ahead of us
|
k*******0
发帖数: 256 | 27 这是那个通过众院的吗？
看来那个non-immigrant status 是可以工作的了。
I think it is a very reasonable one. it would be too harsh for kids live
here long time back to Mexico but it would be really unfair if they get GC
easier than us and can do the "Chain immigration".
2010.
The
【在 S*******r 的大作中提到】
: 没有那么严重了，大家请看：
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act
: 2010
: The 111th Congress continued to consider the DREAM Act bill throughout 2010.
: S.3992, a new version of the DREAM Act, includes numerous changes to
: address concerns raised about the bill. Among other things, S. 3992:
: Does not repeal the ban on in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants. The
: DREAM Act would not allow undocumented immigrants to receive in-state
: tuition. The DREAM Act also continues to prohibit students from obtaining
: Pell and other federal grants.
|
k*******0
发帖数: 256 | 28 I don't think this is a joke. why china competive? not because of PhD, MS,
but because of those like Mexican.
Do you like your neighbors and friends all stronger or weaker than you? so
don't think american like you PhD more tha Mexican.
【在 S******8 的大作中提到】
: 奥巴马刚说了，要通过非法移民来提高人口素质来和中国竞争未来
|
m***s
发帖数: 1094 | 29 WASHINGTON – Democrats have delayed a showdown vote on legislation carving
out a path to legal status for foreign-born youngsters brought to this
country illegally.
Facing GOP objections, Democrats are putting aside the so-called Dream Act.
They're short of the 60 votes needed to advance the measure.
Democratic officials say they'll try to move a House-passed version after
the Senate acts on funding the government and extending tax cuts.
Republicans have said they won't agree to consider anything else until those
issues are addressed.
The bill grants hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants brought to
the United States as children a chance to gain legal status if they enroll
in college or join the military.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information |
z***e
发帖数: 1757 | 30 if they could make it happen now, they would have had done it already. what
has changed since the midterm election that would help move this forward?
nothing. well, here is the latest news. the bill was delayed in the senate
, and may be picked up next week if at all.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/08/AR2010120805209.html?hpid=moreheadlines
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: why are you so sure ?
: seems this time they will make it
: Senate will vote very soon
: Just lost a good chance to add the recapture proposal
:
: it
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a**n
发帖数: 2431 | 31 They have a better chance than us
I see them keep trying and I believe they will get it soon
what
senate
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: if they could make it happen now, they would have had done it already. what
: has changed since the midterm election that would help move this forward?
: nothing. well, here is the latest news. the bill was delayed in the senate
: , and may be picked up next week if at all.
: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/08/AR2010120805209.html?hpid=moreheadlines
|
z***e
发帖数: 1757 | 32 I gave them credit in keeping the pressure on the democrats. but it's just
not likely to pass in this political environment. in my personal opinion,
it's better for legal immigrants if the dream act passes soon so that
recapture/stem can be put on the table for an up-or-down vote on its own
merit.
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: They have a better chance than us
: I see them keep trying and I believe they will get it soon
:
: what
: senate
|
h****g
发帖数: 2216 | 33 你慌啥，这个在senator 根本通不过。共和党现在有可能支持的最多是四票。缅因的那
两个+Lugar+Bennett。民主党自己还有两个反对的。
Bennett 就不说了，maine的Snowe在2012就要选，这两个基本不会支持了。
现在民主党在争取的是susan，争取过来，顶多59。现在至少还没有争取过来，所有根
本没有投票的必要。所以投票delay。
拜托您发表观点之前，看一下新闻。
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: 不知道参议院能不能加赛点技术移民的东西
: 老印实力还是不行啊
: 更别说老中了
: 这种机会就是抓不住
: 非法走到合法前面了
|
b*****u
发帖数: 1556 | 34 设想illegals比legals更superior，世界会怎样。我们当初为什么从有法不依依法不严
的地方来到一个号称平等自由的地方？
They have done concrete work。是因为“没理打出理来”是他们唯一的选择。而且他
们有的是时间去闹。我们太依赖现有法律了。可惜现有法律是一堆crap :(
【在 g**e 的大作中提到】
: what make u think u r superior than "illegals"?
: even if they get ahead of us, that's because they've done concrete work on
: pushing the bills.
: suck it up
|
g**e
发帖数: 6127 | 35 会哭的孩子有奶吃，游戏规则就是如此，没办法
【在 b*****u 的大作中提到】
: 设想illegals比legals更superior，世界会怎样。我们当初为什么从有法不依依法不严
: 的地方来到一个号称平等自由的地方？
: They have done concrete work。是因为“没理打出理来”是他们唯一的选择。而且他
: 们有的是时间去闹。我们太依赖现有法律了。可惜现有法律是一堆crap :(
|
r********n
发帖数: 1162 | 36 My 10 years experience in USA told me this:
The more work you do, the less they care about you.
They only deserve trash work and nobody should work hard for these people!
They treated our EB2/3 people like shit! We should do the same to them!
Enjoy yourself and collect free money! that's it!
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: 不知道参议院能不能加赛点技术移民的东西
: 老印实力还是不行啊
: 更别说老中了
: 这种机会就是抓不住
: 非法走到合法前面了
|
b*****u
发帖数: 1556 | 37 所以美国的发展道路是多多引进低级劳工，把高科技产业推向国外，向中国学习转型到
劳动密集型经济，以廉价作为竞争优势。而中国已经outgrew这个阶段，开始努力提高
知识密集型产业，大量砸钱吸引高科技人才创业。什么时候美国跟在我们后头做事了？
怎么听还是怎么觉得是笑话。
O8不过是找借口来满足对西裔的竞选承诺。完全是政治，没有逻辑可言。
【在 k*******0 的大作中提到】
: I don't think this is a joke. why china competive? not because of PhD, MS,
: but because of those like Mexican.
: Do you like your neighbors and friends all stronger or weaker than you? so
: don't think american like you PhD more tha Mexican.
|
b*****u
发帖数: 1556 | 38 是啊，我们都太天真了。这回该清醒了。
【在 g**e 的大作中提到】
: 会哭的孩子有奶吃，游戏规则就是如此，没办法
|
b*****u
发帖数: 1556 | 39 I absolutely second you!!! I'm already doing that. 我以前没灌这么多水的。Haha!
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: My 10 years experience in USA told me this:
: The more work you do, the less they care about you.
: They only deserve trash work and nobody should work hard for these people!
: They treated our EB2/3 people like shit! We should do the same to them!
: Enjoy yourself and collect free money! that's it!
|
o*****e
发帖数: 104 | 40 没你这么乐观。numbersusa网站列出了还有十位senator处在摇摆位置。
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/december-6-2010/house-passes-dream-act-amnesty-senate-cancels-cloture-vote-today.html
民主党不要十票就能过这个法案。
这法案一过，二十年内国会不会过任何移民法案
移民局将被上百万申请淹没，其中要花大量人力物力去挑战申请材料的真伪。
We are pretty fucked this time!
【在 h****g 的大作中提到】
: 你慌啥，这个在senator 根本通不过。共和党现在有可能支持的最多是四票。缅因的那
: 两个+Lugar+Bennett。民主党自己还有两个反对的。
: Bennett 就不说了，maine的Snowe在2012就要选，这两个基本不会支持了。
: 现在民主党在争取的是susan，争取过来，顶多59。现在至少还没有争取过来，所有根
: 本没有投票的必要。所以投票delay。
: 拜托您发表观点之前，看一下新闻。
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S******8
发帖数: 24594 | 41 别开玩笑了，美国能搞起来劳动密集型产业吗？
老墨合法后还会这么吃苦耐劳吗？ 看看现在的墨西哥就知道了，他们会给美国带来什
么。
【在 b*****u 的大作中提到】
: 所以美国的发展道路是多多引进低级劳工，把高科技产业推向国外，向中国学习转型到
: 劳动密集型经济，以廉价作为竞争优势。而中国已经outgrew这个阶段，开始努力提高
: 知识密集型产业，大量砸钱吸引高科技人才创业。什么时候美国跟在我们后头做事了？
: 怎么听还是怎么觉得是笑话。
: O8不过是找借口来满足对西裔的竞选承诺。完全是政治，没有逻辑可言。
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b*****u
发帖数: 1556 | 42 没看出来我说的是反话？
【在 S******8 的大作中提到】
: 别开玩笑了，美国能搞起来劳动密集型产业吗？
: 老墨合法后还会这么吃苦耐劳吗？ 看看现在的墨西哥就知道了，他们会给美国带来什
: 么。
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s*******t
发帖数: 638 | 43 不可能通过的.
现在的congress马山(还有1个月)就要滚蛋了.
现在也不是绝对多数
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】
: 没你这么乐观。numbersusa网站列出了还有十位senator处在摇摆位置。
: http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/december-6-2010/house-passes-dream-act-amnesty-senate-cancels-cloture-vote-today.html
: 民主党不要十票就能过这个法案。
: 这法案一过，二十年内国会不会过任何移民法案
: 移民局将被上百万申请淹没，其中要花大量人力物力去挑战申请材料的真伪。
: We are pretty fucked this time!
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C******e
发帖数: 1850 | 45 latest news, the democrats have delayed the vote because they are short of
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h****g
发帖数: 2216 | 46 看了一下这个名单， 我列在后面了。括号里标明D的是民主党。除了
Manchin, Joe (D) 上次不能投票，其他的可都没有指望他们说No。你那个网站上的意
思是说他们有可能说NO，要争取一下。这个list让我震惊的是Murkowski。她要是真的
投Yes，那就阿拉斯加过几年就热闹了
Murkowski, Lisa
Landrieu, Mary (D)
Collins, Susan
Snowe, Olympia
Stabenow, Debbie (D)
McCaskill, Claire (D)
Baucus, Max (D)
Dorgan, Byron (D)
Conrad, Kent (D)
Manchin, Joe (D)
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】
: 没你这么乐观。numbersusa网站列出了还有十位senator处在摇摆位置。
: http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/december-6-2010/house-passes-dream-act-amnesty-senate-cancels-cloture-vote-today.html
: 民主党不要十票就能过这个法案。
: 这法案一过，二十年内国会不会过任何移民法案
: 移民局将被上百万申请淹没，其中要花大量人力物力去挑战申请材料的真伪。
: We are pretty fucked this time!
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h****g
发帖数: 2216 | 47 坏了，
这里有个解释，看来形势不妙，要通过了
http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php?p=194785
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Thursday, December 9, pulled a
procedural rabbit out of his hat to prevent what would almost certainly have
been a losing vote from occurring on the DREAM Act. The Majority Leader
acted shortly after 11:15 am EST, when he moved to table his previously made
motion that the Senate proceed to consideration of S. 3992, the Senate
version of the DREAM Act. The Senate agreed to his motion by a vote of 59-40
, thereby preventing the Senate from conducting a previously scheduled
cloture vote in relation to the DREAM Act.
The action on Thursday in the Senate is considerd a victory for supporters
of the DREAM Act. It enables them to avoid a potentially momentum-killing
losing vote on the Senate bill, gives them as much as a week to continue to
pound potential swing vote Senators, and could set up a situation where
Republicans in the Senate have no refuge in procedure and have to cast a yes
or no vote on the DREAM Act on the bill's merits.
The next action on the DREAM Act in the Senate is likely to take place next
week or later.
Following the vote on the motion to table, Majority Leader Reid and
Assistant Senate Majority Leader Dick Durbin (D-IL) reasserted their
commitment to bringing the DREAM Act before the Senate for a vote, saying, "
the Senate will move to the House-passed version of the bill later this
month. In the mean time, we will work with House leaders and the
Administration to ensure that the DREAM Act will be law by the end of the
year.
“The DREAM Act is not a symbolic vote. We owe it to the young men and women
whose lives will be affected by this bill, and to the country which needs
their service in the military and their skills in building our economy, to
honestly address this issue. Members on both sides of the aisle need to ask
themselves if we can afford to say to these talented young men and women
there is no place in America for you.”
【在 h****g 的大作中提到】
: 看了一下这个名单， 我列在后面了。括号里标明D的是民主党。除了
: Manchin, Joe (D) 上次不能投票，其他的可都没有指望他们说No。你那个网站上的意
: 思是说他们有可能说NO，要争取一下。这个list让我震惊的是Murkowski。她要是真的
: 投Yes，那就阿拉斯加过几年就热闹了
: Murkowski, Lisa
: Landrieu, Mary (D)
: Collins, Susan
: Snowe, Olympia
: Stabenow, Debbie (D)
: McCaskill, Claire (D)
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c**********e
发帖数: 3298 | 48 我觉得应该转Joke，这个大概是我今年听到过得最好笑的笑话了，以前我不敢说，现在
完全觉得O8就是个脑残，跟他的前任不相上下
【在 S******8 的大作中提到】
: 奥巴马刚说了，要通过非法移民来提高人口素质来和中国竞争未来
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