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EB23版 - NVC Fee Notice and PD movement
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r********n
发帖数: 1162
1
In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
and PD movement.
I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
several months.
I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
online.
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she has PD of 1989.
At that time FB4 Phillipine VB date was 12/7/1987. He/she asked an attorney
online and this attorney said that he/she may have to wait for years to get
current. The attorney said it was surprising to know NVC sent fee notice so
early because he/she thought this case would not be current for years.
This attorney said: "In the past, the NVC would typically send out the
paperwork a few months before the priority date is current— not years
before, as they are apparently doing now."
In August 2010, the VB was released and Phillipine FB4 PD moved from 1987 to
1//1/1990!
NVC fee notice is definitely connected to the future VB movement. NVC will
not send out these notices if they don't think these cases can be current in
several months!
w*****g
发帖数: 3922
2
呵呵,火箭饭发新主题帖的时候,就是大家欢庆的时候。

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she has PD of 1989.

s******7
发帖数: 1091
3
保佑保佑能进入到09年阿。。。
h**********8
发帖数: 267
4
mark, 赞
g**********g
发帖数: 18118
5
8月不会,九月大概到08年三月底,既不保守,又不浪费。比较符合O大傻的风格。
幻想C是不现实的, 失望是不可避免的。
l*******o
发帖数: 2795
6
indeed good news.
y***n
发帖数: 6764
7
赞火箭的专研态度。
请教一下,NVC和USCIS是一个怎么样的合作关系?一个是国务院下专管visa的,一个是
homeland security下专管移民的,他们是怎么互相协作的?老实说就一个星期前,我
还不知道有NVC这么个机构,以为file了140后,都归CIS管了。
谢谢。

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she has PD of 1989.

c**l
发帖数: 1022
8
希望下个月的通知发到09年的,哈哈.
r********n
发帖数: 1162
9
NVC is directly under DOS. It's located in NH. NVC is one part of DOS. All
the US embassy and consular events are also under DOS. NVC is handling
embassy and consular events, so it is directly under DOS. Bascially Mr.O's
office has a closer relationship to NVC than USCIS.
USCIS is not under DOS. It's more like an independent organization. Green cards are distributed from USCIS and NVC at the same time.

【在 y***n 的大作中提到】
: 赞火箭的专研态度。
: 请教一下,NVC和USCIS是一个怎么样的合作关系?一个是国务院下专管visa的,一个是
: homeland security下专管移民的,他们是怎么互相协作的?老实说就一个星期前,我
: 还不知道有NVC这么个机构,以为file了140后,都归CIS管了。
: 谢谢。
:
: notice
: 1989.

A**********g
发帖数: 987
10
hope it comes true, next two months will be longest

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she has PD of 1989.

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火箭饭(rocketsfan)的贴子可不可以集结成册出版呢?485 Analysis, should be better than Poise's
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s*****m
发帖数: 2024
11
为什么不是08年中?

【在 g**********g 的大作中提到】
: 8月不会,九月大概到08年三月底,既不保守,又不浪费。比较符合O大傻的风格。
: 幻想C是不现实的, 失望是不可避免的。

r********n
发帖数: 1162
12
An Indian guy got fee notice with PD of June 2008, but that's the only case
we heard so far. I will keep monitoring the situation and keep you posted.

【在 s*****m 的大作中提到】
: 为什么不是08年中?
s*****m
发帖数: 2024
13
哈哈, thanks Man

case

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: An Indian guy got fee notice with PD of June 2008, but that's the only case
: we heard so far. I will keep monitoring the situation and keep you posted.

y***n
发帖数: 6764
14
谢谢,查了一下,原来Mr.O's office也是DOS下的一个机构。

cards are distributed from USCIS and NVC at the same time.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: NVC is directly under DOS. It's located in NH. NVC is one part of DOS. All
: the US embassy and consular events are also under DOS. NVC is handling
: embassy and consular events, so it is directly under DOS. Bascially Mr.O's
: office has a closer relationship to NVC than USCIS.
: USCIS is not under DOS. It's more like an independent organization. Green cards are distributed from USCIS and NVC at the same time.

e*******7
发帖数: 2169
15
如果pd下个月到8/2007,我给你包子

notice
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she has PD of 1989.

r********n
发帖数: 1162
16
I think NVC gets the latest information from Mr.O's office.
I bet anything that Mr.O's office provided a list of possible PD dates to
NVC in April. Otherwise NVC wouldn't send out these notices starting from
April.
If we think about the series of events, we would know the big picture.
1. In April, AILA rleased that Mr.O said there are 12k EB1 left over. In the
same month, NVC started sending fee notices to the guys with PD in 2007.
2. In May, Mr.O wrote in visa bulliten that the porting from EB3 to EB2 is
minimal. In the same month, NVC started sending fee notices to the guys with
PD 2008.
Are these things a conincidence? No, I don't think so. Mr.O's office
definitely informed NVC the future PD dates.

【在 y***n 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢,查了一下,原来Mr.O's office也是DOS下的一个机构。
:
: cards are distributed from USCIS and NVC at the same time.

A*r
发帖数: 2253
17
I am a fan of rocketsfan now.

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she has PD of 1989.

m*********e
发帖数: 248
18
me too!

【在 A*r 的大作中提到】
: I am a fan of rocketsfan now.
:
: notice
: 1989.

l********7
发帖数: 1089
19
NIU要不要考虑和NVC搭上关系呢?反正MR。O那也套不出什么东西。
L***a
发帖数: 3674
20
说明o以为我们不知道他们知道的这种关系
才在后面的回信中继续含糊其辞,‘several months’之类的
其实真正的cutoffdate他已然知道
it隐藏的很深啊

the
with

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I think NVC gets the latest information from Mr.O's office.
: I bet anything that Mr.O's office provided a list of possible PD dates to
: NVC in April. Otherwise NVC wouldn't send out these notices starting from
: April.
: If we think about the series of events, we would know the big picture.
: 1. In April, AILA rleased that Mr.O said there are 12k EB1 left over. In the
: same month, NVC started sending fee notices to the guys with PD in 2007.
: 2. In May, Mr.O wrote in visa bulliten that the porting from EB3 to EB2 is
: minimal. In the same month, NVC started sending fee notices to the guys with
: PD 2008.

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A*r
发帖数: 2253
21
I am a fan of rocketsfan now.

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she has PD of 1989.

i******t
发帖数: 11048
22
根据历史,O先生都是最后一周内才制定cut-off日期的八

【在 L***a 的大作中提到】
: 说明o以为我们不知道他们知道的这种关系
: 才在后面的回信中继续含糊其辞,‘several months’之类的
: 其实真正的cutoffdate他已然知道
: it隐藏的很深啊
:
: the
: with

M**U
发帖数: 2752
23
火箭大侠,我知道我心急,请教一下,您之前也说之后也不会后退,而是稳步前进。按
这个趋势,10年3月的PD大概要等到啥时候呢?
r********n
发帖数: 1162
24
I think 100% he has a preliminery list of PDs.
I think he sent this list to NVC already.
That's why we are seeing the fee notices.
Last year Family Based movement was similar! People were surprised to get
fee noticed because their PD were years away from VB, but finally they got
current in last summer!
Everything is telling us that he already had his plan!

【在 L***a 的大作中提到】
: 说明o以为我们不知道他们知道的这种关系
: 才在后面的回信中继续含糊其辞,‘several months’之类的
: 其实真正的cutoffdate他已然知道
: it隐藏的很深啊
:
: the
: with

r********n
发帖数: 1162
25
I think Mr.O already got a preliminery list of PDs.
he finalize in the last week, but he has his plan already.

【在 i******t 的大作中提到】
: 根据历史,O先生都是最后一周内才制定cut-off日期的八
r********n
发帖数: 1162
26
I think most probably you can submit 485 in the summer of 2013 and get green
in 2014. Just my personal opinion for your reference.

【在 M**U 的大作中提到】
: 火箭大侠,我知道我心急,请教一下,您之前也说之后也不会后退,而是稳步前进。按
: 这个趋势,10年3月的PD大概要等到啥时候呢?

r********n
发帖数: 1162
27
Add one thing: NVC date must be the most conservative date that Mr.O
predicted. That means the final PD will be even better than the latest NVC
date. For example, Phillipine FB4 Visa Bulliten reached 1/1/1991 in the
September 2010 VB! The guy in this article had PD of 1989 and he got fee
notice. The people with PD 1990 may not receive any notice, but they still
got current. In my opinion, the NVC date is the most conservative date and
Mr.O is confident that VB will move to that date at least! Just my two
cents!

【在 s*****m 的大作中提到】
: 为什么不是08年中?
b*********n
发帖数: 2975
28
ZAN, so pd in sept may pass 2008 to 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Add one thing: NVC date must be the most conservative date that Mr.O
predicted. That means the final PD will be even better than the latest NVC
date. For example, Phillipine FB4 Visa Bulliten reached 1/1/1991 in the
September 2010 VB! The guy in this article had PD of 1989 and he got fee
notice. The people with PD 1990 may not receive any notice, but they still
got current. In my opinion, the NVC date is the most conservative date and
Mr.O is confident that VB will move to that date at least! Just my two
cents!

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Add one thing: NVC date must be the most conservative date that Mr.O
: predicted. That means the final PD will be even better than the latest NVC
: date. For example, Phillipine FB4 Visa Bulliten reached 1/1/1991 in the
: September 2010 VB! The guy in this article had PD of 1989 and he got fee
: notice. The people with PD 1990 may not receive any notice, but they still
: got current. In my opinion, the NVC date is the most conservative date and
: Mr.O is confident that VB will move to that date at least! Just my two
: cents!

D**M
发帖数: 168
29
扇哥的贴着实让人HIGH。

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Add one thing: NVC date must be the most conservative date that Mr.O
: predicted. That means the final PD will be even better than the latest NVC
: date. For example, Phillipine FB4 Visa Bulliten reached 1/1/1991 in the
: September 2010 VB! The guy in this article had PD of 1989 and he got fee
: notice. The people with PD 1990 may not receive any notice, but they still
: got current. In my opinion, the NVC date is the most conservative date and
: Mr.O is confident that VB will move to that date at least! Just my two
: cents!

y***n
发帖数: 6764
30
建议火箭还是用中文发帖子

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Add one thing: NVC date must be the most conservative date that Mr.O
: predicted. That means the final PD will be even better than the latest NVC
: date. For example, Phillipine FB4 Visa Bulliten reached 1/1/1991 in the
: September 2010 VB! The guy in this article had PD of 1989 and he got fee
: notice. The people with PD 1990 may not receive any notice, but they still
: got current. In my opinion, the NVC date is the most conservative date and
: Mr.O is confident that VB will move to that date at least! Just my two
: cents!

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m********r
发帖数: 299
31
re this

【在 s******7 的大作中提到】
: 保佑保佑能进入到09年阿。。。
m****o
发帖数: 4921
32
谢谢火箭扇
a***n
发帖数: 665
33
多谢火箭扇的努力和分享!
H**E
发帖数: 620
34
thanks for the info, rocketsfan.
that's a very interesting story about Philippine FB4. I am curious on what
happened after their PD has a big jump---was there any retrogress ?
I think right now EB2IC may have a similar situation this summer; everyone
believes PD will have a big jump into 2008; if that's true what's going to
happen after that ? do you think the PD will retrogress again ? or keep moving
forward ? thanks !
b*********n
发帖数: 2975
35
if adavnce to 2008, definitely retro since no quota avaliable, hehe

thanks for the info, rocketsfan.
that's a very interesting story about Philippine FB4. I am curious on what
happened after their PD has a big jump---was there any retrogress ?
I think right now EB2IC may have a similar situation this summer; everyone
believes PD will have a big jump into 2008; if that's true what's going to
happen after that ? do you think they'll retrogress again ? or keep moving
forward ? thanks !

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】
: thanks for the info, rocketsfan.
: that's a very interesting story about Philippine FB4. I am curious on what
: happened after their PD has a big jump---was there any retrogress ?
: I think right now EB2IC may have a similar situation this summer; everyone
: believes PD will have a big jump into 2008; if that's true what's going to
: happen after that ? do you think the PD will retrogress again ? or keep moving
: forward ? thanks !

f********s
发帖数: 416
36
火箭扇起了一轮又一轮的新高潮!现在2009的PD们都high了
y***n
发帖数: 6764
37
火箭只是google到了那个菲利宾人的FB case, 接下来的情况任何人都可以做research。
retrogress与否是取决于中国人EB2里面的demand(perm + NIW) vs. supply(quota +
SO), VB排期大跃进是为了build inventory以不至于到后来浪费名额。

what
to
moving

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】
: thanks for the info, rocketsfan.
: that's a very interesting story about Philippine FB4. I am curious on what
: happened after their PD has a big jump---was there any retrogress ?
: I think right now EB2IC may have a similar situation this summer; everyone
: believes PD will have a big jump into 2008; if that's true what's going to
: happen after that ? do you think the PD will retrogress again ? or keep moving
: forward ? thanks !

r********n
发帖数: 1162
38
yes, I think it may retrogress again in the future, but not in the first
quarter of FY 2012. It may stick to one date for several months before
retrogression. I have explained why last week. The newly submitted cases
will not be ready for approval in the first quarter of FY 2012. It takes 3-4
months to get ready.
If you look at the Philippine FB4 date movement, you will have some ideas.
Currently PH FB4 is in 1988.
May 2010-1987 (DOS realized the demand was not enough, notified NVC)
Sep 2010-1/1/1991 (many new cases rushed into their system)
Oct/Nov 2010-4/1/1991 (sticked to 1991 because not many cases were ready to
use visa number, it took 3-4 months to process new cases)
Dec 2010-1/1/1988 (they got enough cases ready for approval, then retrogress)
July 2011-5/15/1988
You can see that they moved PD big steps in the last quarter of FY 2010.
They kept the 1991 PD for almost 3 months in the first quarter of FY 2011
because they didn't have any approvable cases yet. After 3-4 months, some of
these cases got ready for approval, then they got enough demand and moved
the PD back to 1988.
I think EB2 China may follow the same pattern.

what
to
moving

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】
: thanks for the info, rocketsfan.
: that's a very interesting story about Philippine FB4. I am curious on what
: happened after their PD has a big jump---was there any retrogress ?
: I think right now EB2IC may have a similar situation this summer; everyone
: believes PD will have a big jump into 2008; if that's true what's going to
: happen after that ? do you think the PD will retrogress again ? or keep moving
: forward ? thanks !

g*****e
发帖数: 420
39
2009 09 的还是没戏呀
又悲剧了
H**E
发帖数: 620
40
very good information. thanks ! yeah I agree with you -- if EB2IC jump a
big step this summer most likely the PD follow the same pattern.
Right now the key thing is how far they want to jump forward..... so far
the latest PD got fee notice is June 2008 right ? unfortunately my PD is
July 2008... kind of right across the line.... let's keep our fingers
crossed.

-4
to

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: yes, I think it may retrogress again in the future, but not in the first
: quarter of FY 2012. It may stick to one date for several months before
: retrogression. I have explained why last week. The newly submitted cases
: will not be ready for approval in the first quarter of FY 2012. It takes 3-4
: months to get ready.
: If you look at the Philippine FB4 date movement, you will have some ideas.
: Currently PH FB4 is in 1988.
: May 2010-1987 (DOS realized the demand was not enough, notified NVC)
: Sep 2010-1/1/1991 (many new cases rushed into their system)
: Oct/Nov 2010-4/1/1991 (sticked to 1991 because not many cases were ready to

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最近收到NVC的fee notice的都是走CP路线的EB2?08年3月底的来报道了..
I485 employment based inventory released as of Jan 2012 (转载)火箭饭(rocketsfan)的贴子可不可以集结成册出版呢?
2009年3月的,什么时候递485???今天以个人名义给奥打了个电话,说有可能倒退
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a***n
发帖数: 665
41
rocketsfan, this is a perfect case study you've done.
all your efforts and info are much appreciated.

-4
to

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: yes, I think it may retrogress again in the future, but not in the first
: quarter of FY 2012. It may stick to one date for several months before
: retrogression. I have explained why last week. The newly submitted cases
: will not be ready for approval in the first quarter of FY 2012. It takes 3-4
: months to get ready.
: If you look at the Philippine FB4 date movement, you will have some ideas.
: Currently PH FB4 is in 1988.
: May 2010-1987 (DOS realized the demand was not enough, notified NVC)
: Sep 2010-1/1/1991 (many new cases rushed into their system)
: Oct/Nov 2010-4/1/1991 (sticked to 1991 because not many cases were ready to

r********n
发帖数: 1162
42
you are very welcome!
I just want to share my research with my chinese fellows!
I hope it can help us understand the DOS/NVC/USCIS process better.

【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: rocketsfan, this is a perfect case study you've done.
: all your efforts and info are much appreciated.
:
: -4
: to

H******i
发帖数: 4704
43
大批象我一样的新警察会买的!
什么是fee notice? 什么是SO? 可以简单扫一下盲吗?
为什么网上说NVC是私营公司呢?我太欣赏火箭饭用NVC的收费通知来预测PD current
dates!
National Visa Center (NVC): A private company located in Portsmouth, New
Hampshire that processes certain immigration filings under contract with the
U.S. Department of State (DOS). In appropriate cases, NVC receives approved
green card petitions from USCIS or DOS and continues the green card process
by sending forms and instructions to the applicant, receiving the forms and
supporting documents back from the applicant, and then forwarding the
applicant’s file to the proper U.S. embassy or consulate abroad.
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS): An agency of the
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) responsible for ruling on immigration
and naturalization matters and establishing immigration policies and
priorities. USCIS was formerly called the Immigration and Naturalization
Service (INS) and was part of the U.S. Department of Justice. On March 1,
2003, INS transitioned into DHS. Thus, INS no longer exists.
USCIS functions include adjudication of immigrant visa petitions,
adjudication of naturalization petitions, adjudication of asylum and refugee
applications, adjudications performed at the service centers, and all other
adjudications formerly performed by the INS.
Department of State (DOS)
r********n
发帖数: 1162
44
Like what I said: NVC date should be the most conservative date they
determined based on the demand data. I think the final PD will be several
months or one year later than the NVC notice.
The Phillipine had PD 1989 and got notice when the VB had a date of 1987.
But the final VB released with PD 1/1/1991. I don't know whether the folks
with 1990 received any fee notice or not, but I am sure NVC was sure the PD
will move to AT LEAST 1989.

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】
: very good information. thanks ! yeah I agree with you -- if EB2IC jump a
: big step this summer most likely the PD follow the same pattern.
: Right now the key thing is how far they want to jump forward..... so far
: the latest PD got fee notice is June 2008 right ? unfortunately my PD is
: July 2008... kind of right across the line.... let's keep our fingers
: crossed.
:
: -4
: to

r********n
发帖数: 1162
45
Fee notice: ask people to pay fee for consulate green card interview
SO: spill over, all the left over of EB1 and EB2 ROW go to EB C&I.

the
approved
process
and

【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: 大批象我一样的新警察会买的!
: 什么是fee notice? 什么是SO? 可以简单扫一下盲吗?
: 为什么网上说NVC是私营公司呢?我太欣赏火箭饭用NVC的收费通知来预测PD current
: dates!
: National Visa Center (NVC): A private company located in Portsmouth, New
: Hampshire that processes certain immigration filings under contract with the
: U.S. Department of State (DOS). In appropriate cases, NVC receives approved
: green card petitions from USCIS or DOS and continues the green card process
: by sending forms and instructions to the applicant, receiving the forms and
: supporting documents back from the applicant, and then forwarding the

H******i
发帖数: 4704
46
Thank you!

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Fee notice: ask people to pay fee for consulate green card interview
: SO: spill over, all the left over of EB1 and EB2 ROW go to EB C&I.
:
: the
: approved
: process
: and

b**********s
发帖数: 50
47
Rocketsfan: Thanks a lot for this informatiom. Just got a quick question for
you: My old Priority Date is Mar2008, it looks likely I can submit my 485
this coming Sep and several months after. But since I changed the job, I am
still doing my new PERM ads now, hopefully i can submit PERM at end of this
July. luckily It will probably take two months to get PERM approved. After
that, should I submit 140 and 485 together? someone already suggested me to
file 140 first, then 485, but I am afraid the retrogress, what do you think?
Thanks a lot.

-4
to

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: yes, I think it may retrogress again in the future, but not in the first
: quarter of FY 2012. It may stick to one date for several months before
: retrogression. I have explained why last week. The newly submitted cases
: will not be ready for approval in the first quarter of FY 2012. It takes 3-4
: months to get ready.
: If you look at the Philippine FB4 date movement, you will have some ideas.
: Currently PH FB4 is in 1988.
: May 2010-1987 (DOS realized the demand was not enough, notified NVC)
: Sep 2010-1/1/1991 (many new cases rushed into their system)
: Oct/Nov 2010-4/1/1991 (sticked to 1991 because not many cases were ready to

r********n
发帖数: 1162
48
I think your PERM will be approved by Oct.1st.
If your PD becomes current, of course you should submit 140 and 485 at the
same time.
Keep a close eye on the coming VBs.

for
am
this
to
think?

【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】
: Rocketsfan: Thanks a lot for this informatiom. Just got a quick question for
: you: My old Priority Date is Mar2008, it looks likely I can submit my 485
: this coming Sep and several months after. But since I changed the job, I am
: still doing my new PERM ads now, hopefully i can submit PERM at end of this
: July. luckily It will probably take two months to get PERM approved. After
: that, should I submit 140 and 485 together? someone already suggested me to
: file 140 first, then 485, but I am afraid the retrogress, what do you think?
: Thanks a lot.
:
: -4

b**********s
发帖数: 50
49
Thanks for the qucik response. If I am going to file the 140 and 485
togehter, will they port my old PD to the New I-140 thanks. And will it
cause any confusion for those Officer, Thanks a lot.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I think your PERM will be approved by Oct.1st.
: If your PD becomes current, of course you should submit 140 and 485 at the
: same time.
: Keep a close eye on the coming VBs.
:
: for
: am
: this
: to
: think?

y***n
发帖数: 6764
50
真要在6/2008的基础上再加一年的话,09PD的可真要开始兴奋了

PD

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Like what I said: NVC date should be the most conservative date they
: determined based on the demand data. I think the final PD will be several
: months or one year later than the NVC notice.
: The Phillipine had PD 1989 and got notice when the VB had a date of 1987.
: But the final VB released with PD 1/1/1991. I don't know whether the folks
: with 1990 received any fee notice or not, but I am sure NVC was sure the PD
: will move to AT LEAST 1989.

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p***e
发帖数: 29053
51
personally I gave rocketsfan 10 baozhi
hehe
s******7
发帖数: 1091
52
i gave 3 :))

【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: personally I gave rocketsfan 10 baozhi
: hehe

z********a
发帖数: 280
53
Because of company relocation, I have to restart the whole process including
the PERM and I-140 submission. So I have the same question here, can the
PD transfer only after new I-140 been approved? As everybody know, it take a
long time to approve new I-140. Thanks a lot for instructions!

【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for the qucik response. If I am going to file the 140 and 485
: togehter, will they port my old PD to the New I-140 thanks. And will it
: cause any confusion for those Officer, Thanks a lot.

H**E
发帖数: 620
54
thanks for your message rocketsfan. that's encouraging.

PD

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Like what I said: NVC date should be the most conservative date they
: determined based on the demand data. I think the final PD will be several
: months or one year later than the NVC notice.
: The Phillipine had PD 1989 and got notice when the VB had a date of 1987.
: But the final VB released with PD 1/1/1991. I don't know whether the folks
: with 1990 received any fee notice or not, but I am sure NVC was sure the PD
: will move to AT LEAST 1989.

m*********e
发帖数: 248
55
对啊对啊
先送个包子给火箭扇,
辛苦了啊.

【在 y***n 的大作中提到】
: 真要在6/2008的基础上再加一年的话,09PD的可真要开始兴奋了
:
: PD

r********n
发帖数: 1162
56
I don't know the relink issue.
I hope other guys can answer it.
best blesses to you guys.

including
a

【在 z********a 的大作中提到】
: Because of company relocation, I have to restart the whole process including
: the PERM and I-140 submission. So I have the same question here, can the
: PD transfer only after new I-140 been approved? As everybody know, it take a
: long time to approve new I-140. Thanks a lot for instructions!

J********t
发帖数: 240
57
我不指望进到09年,能进到08年然后能稳步前进我就知足了。

【在 y***n 的大作中提到】
: 真要在6/2008的基础上再加一年的话,09PD的可真要开始兴奋了
:
: PD

b**********s
发帖数: 50
58
Another question: Can I doing Premium Process for 140 if I am going to file
140 and 485 togehter? Thanks a lot, No Baozhi yet, otherwise I will Baozhi
to whoever answered my questions. Thanks again.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I don't know the relink issue.
: I hope other guys can answer it.
: best blesses to you guys.
:
: including
: a

r********n
发帖数: 1162
59
I think you can.

file

【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】
: Another question: Can I doing Premium Process for 140 if I am going to file
: 140 and 485 togehter? Thanks a lot, No Baozhi yet, otherwise I will Baozhi
: to whoever answered my questions. Thanks again.

g*******k
发帖数: 159
60
我在今年4月初收到NVC FEE NOTICE,当时在版上发帖,被人BS,说这些FEE NOTICE和
排期没有关系。我的PD是2006年11月,现在看来,确实NVC是在PD到之前两三个月发出
FEE NOTICE。
是为佐证。
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s****t
发帖数: 427
61
good supporting evidence.

【在 g*******k 的大作中提到】
: 我在今年4月初收到NVC FEE NOTICE,当时在版上发帖,被人BS,说这些FEE NOTICE和
: 排期没有关系。我的PD是2006年11月,现在看来,确实NVC是在PD到之前两三个月发出
: FEE NOTICE。
: 是为佐证。

r********n
发帖数: 1162
62
what is your PD? On June 10th, you said "我的排期还差一个月".
I thought your PD is April 2007.

【在 g*******k 的大作中提到】
: 我在今年4月初收到NVC FEE NOTICE,当时在版上发帖,被人BS,说这些FEE NOTICE和
: 排期没有关系。我的PD是2006年11月,现在看来,确实NVC是在PD到之前两三个月发出
: FEE NOTICE。
: 是为佐证。

V*********l
发帖数: 660
63
赞。。。。。。。
r********n
发帖数: 1162
64
I agree.
You received the NVC notice because Mr.O release a news through AILA in
April: there are more than 12k spillover from EB1 in the first two quarters.
That news drove him to notify NVC to send out those notices. It's not a
coincidence at all.

【在 g*******k 的大作中提到】
: 我在今年4月初收到NVC FEE NOTICE,当时在版上发帖,被人BS,说这些FEE NOTICE和
: 排期没有关系。我的PD是2006年11月,现在看来,确实NVC是在PD到之前两三个月发出
: FEE NOTICE。
: 是为佐证。

g*******k
发帖数: 159
65
火箭大人明察秋毫,其实我本人的PD是07年3月底,排期在11月又收到fee notice是我
一个朋友,懒得解释这么多,所以都用本人的名义,还是让火箭大人看出来了。

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: what is your PD? On June 10th, you said "我的排期还差一个月".
: I thought your PD is April 2007.

s******7
发帖数: 1091
66
火箭牛的。。。
y****1
发帖数: 213
67
Rocketsfan, is it possible for PD 7/18/08 to submit 485 in this Sep.?
40%, 50%, 60%.....?

quarters.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I agree.
: You received the NVC notice because Mr.O release a news through AILA in
: April: there are more than 12k spillover from EB1 in the first two quarters.
: That news drove him to notify NVC to send out those notices. It's not a
: coincidence at all.

a***n
发帖数: 665
68
based on what i learned from this board, i think the
rule of thumb for PD cutoff prediction is:
PD of CP cases - 1 yr
so, its not "再加一年", rather its "再减一年"

【在 y***n 的大作中提到】
: 真要在6/2008的基础上再加一年的话,09PD的可真要开始兴奋了
:
: PD

l****l
发帖数: 3394
69
这个月发08/06,下个月就发11/03了!哈哈
U********n
发帖数: 471
70
还是不明白.是说发fee notice给还没交485的吗?
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f********s
发帖数: 416
71
赞火箭明察秋毫,思维缜密,分析推理有理有据。
s******h
发帖数: 344
72
Great Stuff! If my PD become current this sept. I will give all my baozi to
you.

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she has PD of 1989.

j*e
发帖数: 1987
73
根据我的调查,NVC fee和Visa Bulletin的相关性被严重高估。楼主找到一个case,就
认为NVC fee notice代表未来几个月VB,是以偏概全。这个case完全可能是凑巧。
我找到另一个case说明NVC fee notice完全有可能错估VB,见http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/266671-nvc-and-priority-dates/
这个阿根廷人申请FB1类,PD大约是07年8月,去年7月他就收到NVC fee notice,然而
一年过去了,FB1-ROW的排期还在04年徘徊,虽然中间曾经到达过06年2月的高点(见http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Cut-off_Dates_worldwide_online.pdf),但后
来又大幅倒退(http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_1770.html),此人的PD到current还遥遥无期。照楼主的说法,NVC fee是most
conservative的,那他早就应该排到了。
r********n
发帖数: 1162
74
We don't know his/her PD. We can't tell from this post.
How could you figure out his/her PD?

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 根据我的调查,NVC fee和Visa Bulletin的相关性被严重高估。楼主找到一个case,就
: 认为NVC fee notice代表未来几个月VB,是以偏概全。这个case完全可能是凑巧。
: 我找到另一个case说明NVC fee notice完全有可能错估VB,见http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/266671-nvc-and-priority-dates/
: 这个阿根廷人申请FB1类,PD大约是07年8月,去年7月他就收到NVC fee notice,然而
: 一年过去了,FB1-ROW的排期还在04年徘徊,虽然中间曾经到达过06年2月的高点(见http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Cut-off_Dates_worldwide_online.pdf),但后
: 来又大幅倒退(http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_1770.html),此人的PD到current还遥遥无期。照楼主的说法,NVC fee是most
: conservative的,那他早就应该排到了。

j*e
发帖数: 1987
75
He said "According to the Visa Bulletin, my priority date is going to be in
2 years"
发帖时间去年7/24,去年的7月,8月FB1-ROW的VB都是Aug 05,推两年就是Aug 07

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: We don't know his/her PD. We can't tell from this post.
: How could you figure out his/her PD?

r********n
发帖数: 1162
76
Time=Distance/Speed.
Everybody knows the slow speed of GC, it's very possible he made that
statement based on the moving speed of VB.
This case is not clear at all. Additionally I doubt this guy really knows
his PD.

in

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: He said "According to the Visa Bulletin, my priority date is going to be in
: 2 years"
: 发帖时间去年7/24,去年的7月,8月FB1-ROW的VB都是Aug 05,推两年就是Aug 07

j*e
发帖数: 1987
77
FB1-ROW moved fast in the past year when the author post his question.
FB1-ROW Aug09VB = 1/8/03. Aug10VB=8/1/05, PD moved more than 2 years in just
1 year.
Believe what you want to believe is easy. Believe what you don't want to is
not so easy.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Time=Distance/Speed.
: Everybody knows the slow speed of GC, it's very possible he made that
: statement based on the moving speed of VB.
: This case is not clear at all. Additionally I doubt this guy really knows
: his PD.
:
: in

s*******e
发帖数: 629
78
It does not mean his PD is Aug. 2007.

in

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: He said "According to the Visa Bulletin, my priority date is going to be in
: 2 years"
: 发帖时间去年7/24,去年的7月,8月FB1-ROW的VB都是Aug 05,推两年就是Aug 07

s*******e
发帖数: 629
79
Rocketsfan is correct.
j*e
发帖数: 1987
80
如果他的PD是06年,而当时VB已经排到05年8月的时候,你认为他会说“According to
the Visa Bulletin, my priority date is going to be in 2 years”吗? 尤其是考
虑到在他发帖的过去一年中FB1-ROW的排期大幅跃进了两年。

【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: It does not mean his PD is Aug. 2007.
:
: in

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s*******e
发帖数: 629
81
We are all just guessing. Nothing is clear until we can find out his real PD
.
j*e
发帖数: 1987
82
你可以继续选择性相信什么是real,什么是unreal。我只是客观陈述推理,相信版上有
头脑的人都会自己分析。

PD

【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: We are all just guessing. Nothing is clear until we can find out his real PD
: .

b*********n
发帖数: 2975
83
let's find more cases to do inference, hehe

你可以继续选择性相信什么是real,什么是unreal。我只是客观陈述推理,相信版上有
头脑的人都会自己分析。
PD

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 你可以继续选择性相信什么是real,什么是unreal。我只是客观陈述推理,相信版上有
: 头脑的人都会自己分析。
:
: PD

r********n
发帖数: 1162
84
Thanks for your efforts finding this case. The only thing is that this post
didn't provide his PD clearly. Of course it is possible that his PD is in
2007.
It gave us a reminder that we shouldn't be too confident about my previous
analysis. I will try to do more research about it.

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 你可以继续选择性相信什么是real,什么是unreal。我只是客观陈述推理,相信版上有
: 头脑的人都会自己分析。
:
: PD

g**o
发帖数: 15
85
jwe,
你的选择性相信是unreal。因为你找到的那个例子不是NVC processing fee notice.
That's Form DS-3032 and the affidavit of support fee.
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/80023.pdf
我本人5/23收到了Immigrant Visa Application Processing Fee Bill Invoice。 所
以我知道它不是Form DS-3032,也不是 affidavit of support fee。My PD is 2/20/
2008.

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 你可以继续选择性相信什么是real,什么是unreal。我只是客观陈述推理,相信版上有
: 头脑的人都会自己分析。
:
: PD

f*******u
发帖数: 660
86
ahoh, somebody is ruining the party
H**E
发帖数: 620
87
no don't put it in that way.
it's all predictions, nobody knows for sure what's Mr. O's move for next.
more information/discussion from a different point of view is always better
and should be encouraged.

【在 f*******u 的大作中提到】
: ahoh, somebody is ruining the party
r********n
发帖数: 1162
88
cool! I didn't know they have two kinds of notices.
Could you please explain the difference?

【在 g**o 的大作中提到】
: jwe,
: 你的选择性相信是unreal。因为你找到的那个例子不是NVC processing fee notice.
: That's Form DS-3032 and the affidavit of support fee.
: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/80023.pdf
: 我本人5/23收到了Immigrant Visa Application Processing Fee Bill Invoice。 所
: 以我知道它不是Form DS-3032,也不是 affidavit of support fee。My PD is 2/20/
: 2008.

r********n
发帖数: 1162
89
yes, it's good to hear different opinions.
It's a forum for discussion and we should work together.

better

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】
: no don't put it in that way.
: it's all predictions, nobody knows for sure what's Mr. O's move for next.
: more information/discussion from a different point of view is always better
: and should be encouraged.

f*******u
发帖数: 660
90
K, my bad.thanks for all the information and analysis:)

better

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】
: no don't put it in that way.
: it's all predictions, nobody knows for sure what's Mr. O's move for next.
: more information/discussion from a different point of view is always better
: and should be encouraged.

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s*******e
发帖数: 629
91
This is the place WE like. :)
k********o
发帖数: 1139
92
是啊,你们双方虽然持不同观点,但都是理性的讨论。现在大家又学习了新的知识,原
来还有这么多不同的收费notice。多谢!

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: yes, it's good to hear different opinions.
: It's a forum for discussion and we should work together.
:
: better

r********n
发帖数: 1162
93
I did further analysis and what you said makes perfect sense now. Thanks for providing this important clue.
There are two type of fees from NVC.
The affidavit of support processing fee (also called AOS fee)
immigrant visa processing fee (IV fee).


【在 g**o 的大作中提到】
: jwe,
: 你的选择性相信是unreal。因为你找到的那个例子不是NVC processing fee notice.
: That's Form DS-3032 and the affidavit of support fee.
: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/80023.pdf
: 我本人5/23收到了Immigrant Visa Application Processing Fee Bill Invoice。 所
: 以我知道它不是Form DS-3032,也不是 affidavit of support fee。My PD is 2/20/
: 2008.

k********o
发帖数: 1139
94
good finding...

the
.
card
sent
the

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I did further analysis and what you said makes perfect sense now. Thanks for providing this important clue.
: There are two type of fees from NVC.
: The affidavit of support processing fee (also called AOS fee)
: immigrant visa processing fee (IV fee).
:

j*e
发帖数: 1987
95
According to http://www.immihelp.com/immigrant-visa/nvc-aos-fee-iv-fee-payment.html
DS-3032 就是IV fee。
那个阿根廷人说"10 days ago I received from the NVC the Form DS-3032 and the
affidavit of support fee"
就是说他同时收到了AOS fee和IV fee notice.
r********n
发帖数: 1162
96
No, you misunderstood it.
On immihelp website you pointed to, it said: "the IV fee will be sent to the
applicant or agent designated by the applicant on the Form DS-3032."
DS-3032 is not IV fee. DS-3032 only tells NVC where the IV fee bill should be
sent to.


the

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: According to http://www.immihelp.com/immigrant-visa/nvc-aos-fee-iv-fee-payment.html
: DS-3032 就是IV fee。
: 那个阿根廷人说"10 days ago I received from the NVC the Form DS-3032 and the
: affidavit of support fee"
: 就是说他同时收到了AOS fee和IV fee notice.

j*e
发帖数: 1987
97
多谢澄清。
但是你在顶楼举的这个菲律宾人的例子,也是讲他收到的DS-3032,“Recently, we
received from the NVC various forms for my brother’s immigrant visa
processing, such as Choice of Address and Agent form.”这里的“Choice of
Address and Agent”不就是DS-3032吗?
而且从这个帖子看"http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/134404-when-will-nvc-invoice-my-iv-fee-bill/"
有人说"After DS-3032 confirmation, you can expect one week to get IV fee
bill invoiced"
也就是说DS-3032跟IV fee之间是非常接近的。

the
be

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: No, you misunderstood it.
: On immihelp website you pointed to, it said: "the IV fee will be sent to the
: applicant or agent designated by the applicant on the Form DS-3032."
: DS-3032 is not IV fee. DS-3032 only tells NVC where the IV fee bill should be
: sent to.
:
:
: the

h**********8
发帖数: 267
98
very appreciated, 赞

for providing this important clue.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I did further analysis and what you said makes perfect sense now. Thanks for providing this important clue.
: There are two type of fees from NVC.
: The affidavit of support processing fee (also called AOS fee)
: immigrant visa processing fee (IV fee).
:

h**********8
发帖数: 267
99
re
p****e
发帖数: 29
100
弱问一声:
什么人才会收到这样的通知?如果是自己办的,也会收到么?
谢谢!
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r********n
发帖数: 1162
101
In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
and PD movement.
I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
several months.
I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
online.
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she had PD of 1989.
At that time FB4 Phillipine VB date was 12/7/1987. He/she asked an attorney
online and this attorney said that he/she might have to wait for years to get
current. The attorney said it was surprising to know NVC sent fee notice so
early because he/she thought this case would not be current for years.
This attorney said: "In the past, the NVC would typically send out the
paperwork a few months before the priority date is current— not years
before, as they are apparently doing now."
In August 2010, the VB was released and Phillipine FB4 PD moved from 1987 to
1//1/1990! Finally it turned out the attorney was wrong!
NVC fee notice is definitely connected to the future VB movement. NVC will
not send out these notices if they don't think these cases can be current in
several months!
Add one thing: NVC date must be the most conservative date that Mr.O predicted. That means the final PD will be even better than the latest NVC date. For example, Phillipine FB4 Visa Bulliten reached 1/1/1991 in the September VB! The guy in this article had PD of 1989 and he got fee notice. The people with PD 1990 may not receive any notice, but they still got current. In my opinion, the NVC date is the most conservative date and Mr.O is confident that VB will move to that date at least! Just my two cents!
Add 2nd thing: If you look at the Philippine FB4 date movement, you will have some ideas. Currently PH FB4 is in 1988.
May 2010-1987 (DOS realized the demand was not enough, notified NVC)
Sep 2010-1/1/1991 (many new cases rushed into their system)
Oct/Nov 2010-4/1/1991 (sticked to 1991 because not many cases were ready to use visa number)
Dec 2010-1/1/1988 (they got enough cases ready for approval, then retrogess)
July 2011-5/15/1988
You can see that they moved PD big steps in the last quarter of FY 2010. They kept the 1991 PD for almost 3 months in the first quarter of FY 2011 because they didn't have any approvable cases yet. After 3-4 months, some of these cases got ready for approval, then they got enough demand and moved the PD back to 1988.
I think EB2 China may follow the same pattern.
w*****g
发帖数: 3922
102
呵呵,火箭饭发新主题帖的时候,就是大家欢庆的时候。

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she had PD of 1989.

s******7
发帖数: 1091
103
保佑保佑能进入到09年阿。。。
h**********8
发帖数: 267
104
mark, 赞
g**********g
发帖数: 18118
105
8月不会,九月大概到08年三月底,既不保守,又不浪费。比较符合O大傻的风格。
幻想C是不现实的, 失望是不可避免的。
l*******o
发帖数: 2795
106
indeed good news.
y***n
发帖数: 6764
107
赞火箭的专研态度。
请教一下,NVC和USCIS是一个怎么样的合作关系?一个是国务院下专管visa的,一个是
homeland security下专管移民的,他们是怎么互相协作的?老实说就一个星期前,我
还不知道有NVC这么个机构,以为file了140后,都归CIS管了。
谢谢。

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she had PD of 1989.

c**l
发帖数: 1022
108
希望下个月的通知发到09年的,哈哈.
r********n
发帖数: 1162
109
NVC is directly under DOS. It's located in NH. NVC is one part of DOS. All
the US embassy and consular events are also under DOS. NVC is handling
embassy and consular events, so it is directly under DOS. Bascially Mr.O's
office has a closer relationship to NVC than USCIS.
USCIS is not under DOS. It's more like an independent organization. Green cards are distributed from USCIS and NVC at the same time.

【在 y***n 的大作中提到】
: 赞火箭的专研态度。
: 请教一下,NVC和USCIS是一个怎么样的合作关系?一个是国务院下专管visa的,一个是
: homeland security下专管移民的,他们是怎么互相协作的?老实说就一个星期前,我
: 还不知道有NVC这么个机构,以为file了140后,都归CIS管了。
: 谢谢。
:
: notice
: 1989.

A**********g
发帖数: 987
110
hope it comes true, next two months will be longest

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she had PD of 1989.

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08年3月底的来报道了..demand is picking up
火箭饭(rocketsfan)的贴子可不可以集结成册出版呢?485 Analysis, should be better than Poise's
进入EB23版参与讨论
s*****m
发帖数: 2024
111
为什么不是08年中?

【在 g**********g 的大作中提到】
: 8月不会,九月大概到08年三月底,既不保守,又不浪费。比较符合O大傻的风格。
: 幻想C是不现实的, 失望是不可避免的。

r********n
发帖数: 1162
112
An Indian guy got fee notice with PD of June 2008, but that's the only case
we heard so far. I will keep monitoring the situation and keep you posted.

【在 s*****m 的大作中提到】
: 为什么不是08年中?
s*****m
发帖数: 2024
113
哈哈, thanks Man

case

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: An Indian guy got fee notice with PD of June 2008, but that's the only case
: we heard so far. I will keep monitoring the situation and keep you posted.

y***n
发帖数: 6764
114
谢谢,查了一下,原来Mr.O's office也是DOS下的一个机构。

cards are distributed from USCIS and NVC at the same time.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: NVC is directly under DOS. It's located in NH. NVC is one part of DOS. All
: the US embassy and consular events are also under DOS. NVC is handling
: embassy and consular events, so it is directly under DOS. Bascially Mr.O's
: office has a closer relationship to NVC than USCIS.
: USCIS is not under DOS. It's more like an independent organization. Green cards are distributed from USCIS and NVC at the same time.

e*******7
发帖数: 2169
115
如果pd下个月到8/2007,我给你包子

notice
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she had PD of 1989.

r********n
发帖数: 1162
116
I think NVC gets the latest information from Mr.O's office.
I bet anything that Mr.O's office provided a list of possible PD dates to
NVC in April. Otherwise NVC wouldn't send out these notices starting from
April.
If we think about the series of events, we would know the big picture.
1. In April, AILA rleased that Mr.O said there are 12k EB1 left over. In the
same month, NVC started sending fee notices to the guys with PD in 2007.
2. In May, Mr.O wrote in visa bulliten that the porting from EB3 to EB2 is
minimal. In the same month, NVC started sending fee notices to the guys with
PD 2008.
Are these things a conincidence? No, I don't think so. Mr.O's office
definitely informed NVC the future PD dates.

【在 y***n 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢,查了一下,原来Mr.O's office也是DOS下的一个机构。
:
: cards are distributed from USCIS and NVC at the same time.

A*r
发帖数: 2253
117
I am a fan of rocketsfan now.

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she had PD of 1989.

m*********e
发帖数: 248
118
me too!

【在 A*r 的大作中提到】
: I am a fan of rocketsfan now.
:
: notice
: 1989.

l********7
发帖数: 1089
119
NIU要不要考虑和NVC搭上关系呢?反正MR。O那也套不出什么东西。
L***a
发帖数: 3674
120
说明o以为我们不知道他们知道的这种关系
才在后面的回信中继续含糊其辞,‘several months’之类的
其实真正的cutoffdate他已然知道
it隐藏的很深啊

the
with

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I think NVC gets the latest information from Mr.O's office.
: I bet anything that Mr.O's office provided a list of possible PD dates to
: NVC in April. Otherwise NVC wouldn't send out these notices starting from
: April.
: If we think about the series of events, we would know the big picture.
: 1. In April, AILA rleased that Mr.O said there are 12k EB1 left over. In the
: same month, NVC started sending fee notices to the guys with PD in 2007.
: 2. In May, Mr.O wrote in visa bulliten that the porting from EB3 to EB2 is
: minimal. In the same month, NVC started sending fee notices to the guys with
: PD 2008.

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A*r
发帖数: 2253
121
I am a fan of rocketsfan now.

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she had PD of 1989.

i******t
发帖数: 11048
122
根据历史,O先生都是最后一周内才制定cut-off日期的八

【在 L***a 的大作中提到】
: 说明o以为我们不知道他们知道的这种关系
: 才在后面的回信中继续含糊其辞,‘several months’之类的
: 其实真正的cutoffdate他已然知道
: it隐藏的很深啊
:
: the
: with

M**U
发帖数: 2752
123
火箭大侠,我知道我心急,请教一下,您之前也说之后也不会后退,而是稳步前进。按
这个趋势,10年3月的PD大概要等到啥时候呢?
r********n
发帖数: 1162
124
I think 100% he has a preliminery list of PDs.
I think he sent this list to NVC already.
That's why we are seeing the fee notices.
Last year Family Based movement was similar! People were surprised to get
fee noticed because their PD were years away from VB, but finally they got
current in last summer!
Everything is telling us that he already had his plan!

【在 L***a 的大作中提到】
: 说明o以为我们不知道他们知道的这种关系
: 才在后面的回信中继续含糊其辞,‘several months’之类的
: 其实真正的cutoffdate他已然知道
: it隐藏的很深啊
:
: the
: with

r********n
发帖数: 1162
125
I think Mr.O already got a preliminery list of PDs.
he finalize in the last week, but he has his plan already.

【在 i******t 的大作中提到】
: 根据历史,O先生都是最后一周内才制定cut-off日期的八
r********n
发帖数: 1162
126
I think most probably you can submit 485 in the summer of 2013 and get green
in 2014. Just my personal opinion for your reference.

【在 M**U 的大作中提到】
: 火箭大侠,我知道我心急,请教一下,您之前也说之后也不会后退,而是稳步前进。按
: 这个趋势,10年3月的PD大概要等到啥时候呢?

r********n
发帖数: 1162
127
Add one thing: NVC date must be the most conservative date that Mr.O
predicted. That means the final PD will be even better than the latest NVC
date. For example, Phillipine FB4 Visa Bulliten reached 1/1/1991 in the
September 2010 VB! The guy in this article had PD of 1989 and he got fee
notice. The people with PD 1990 may not receive any notice, but they still
got current. In my opinion, the NVC date is the most conservative date and
Mr.O is confident that VB will move to that date at least! Just my two
cents!

【在 s*****m 的大作中提到】
: 为什么不是08年中?
b*********n
发帖数: 2975
128
ZAN, so pd in sept may pass 2008 to 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Add one thing: NVC date must be the most conservative date that Mr.O
predicted. That means the final PD will be even better than the latest NVC
date. For example, Phillipine FB4 Visa Bulliten reached 1/1/1991 in the
September 2010 VB! The guy in this article had PD of 1989 and he got fee
notice. The people with PD 1990 may not receive any notice, but they still
got current. In my opinion, the NVC date is the most conservative date and
Mr.O is confident that VB will move to that date at least! Just my two
cents!

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Add one thing: NVC date must be the most conservative date that Mr.O
: predicted. That means the final PD will be even better than the latest NVC
: date. For example, Phillipine FB4 Visa Bulliten reached 1/1/1991 in the
: September 2010 VB! The guy in this article had PD of 1989 and he got fee
: notice. The people with PD 1990 may not receive any notice, but they still
: got current. In my opinion, the NVC date is the most conservative date and
: Mr.O is confident that VB will move to that date at least! Just my two
: cents!

D**M
发帖数: 168
129
扇哥的贴着实让人HIGH。

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Add one thing: NVC date must be the most conservative date that Mr.O
: predicted. That means the final PD will be even better than the latest NVC
: date. For example, Phillipine FB4 Visa Bulliten reached 1/1/1991 in the
: September 2010 VB! The guy in this article had PD of 1989 and he got fee
: notice. The people with PD 1990 may not receive any notice, but they still
: got current. In my opinion, the NVC date is the most conservative date and
: Mr.O is confident that VB will move to that date at least! Just my two
: cents!

y***n
发帖数: 6764
130
建议火箭还是用中文发帖子

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Add one thing: NVC date must be the most conservative date that Mr.O
: predicted. That means the final PD will be even better than the latest NVC
: date. For example, Phillipine FB4 Visa Bulliten reached 1/1/1991 in the
: September 2010 VB! The guy in this article had PD of 1989 and he got fee
: notice. The people with PD 1990 may not receive any notice, but they still
: got current. In my opinion, the NVC date is the most conservative date and
: Mr.O is confident that VB will move to that date at least! Just my two
: cents!

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m********r
发帖数: 299
131
re this

【在 s******7 的大作中提到】
: 保佑保佑能进入到09年阿。。。
m****o
发帖数: 4921
132
谢谢火箭扇
a***n
发帖数: 665
133
多谢火箭扇的努力和分享!
H**E
发帖数: 620
134
thanks for the info, rocketsfan.
that's a very interesting story about Philippine FB4. I am curious on what
happened after their PD has a big jump---was there any retrogress ?
I think right now EB2IC may have a similar situation this summer; everyone
believes PD will have a big jump into 2008; if that's true what's going to
happen after that ? do you think the PD will retrogress again ? or keep moving
forward ? thanks !
b*********n
发帖数: 2975
135
if adavnce to 2008, definitely retro since no quota avaliable, hehe

thanks for the info, rocketsfan.
that's a very interesting story about Philippine FB4. I am curious on what
happened after their PD has a big jump---was there any retrogress ?
I think right now EB2IC may have a similar situation this summer; everyone
believes PD will have a big jump into 2008; if that's true what's going to
happen after that ? do you think they'll retrogress again ? or keep moving
forward ? thanks !

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】
: thanks for the info, rocketsfan.
: that's a very interesting story about Philippine FB4. I am curious on what
: happened after their PD has a big jump---was there any retrogress ?
: I think right now EB2IC may have a similar situation this summer; everyone
: believes PD will have a big jump into 2008; if that's true what's going to
: happen after that ? do you think the PD will retrogress again ? or keep moving
: forward ? thanks !

f********s
发帖数: 416
136
火箭扇起了一轮又一轮的新高潮!现在2009的PD们都high了
y***n
发帖数: 6764
137
火箭只是google到了那个菲利宾人的FB case, 接下来的情况任何人都可以做research。
retrogress与否是取决于中国人EB2里面的demand(perm + NIW) vs. supply(quota +
SO), VB排期大跃进是为了build inventory以不至于到后来浪费名额。

what
to
moving

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】
: thanks for the info, rocketsfan.
: that's a very interesting story about Philippine FB4. I am curious on what
: happened after their PD has a big jump---was there any retrogress ?
: I think right now EB2IC may have a similar situation this summer; everyone
: believes PD will have a big jump into 2008; if that's true what's going to
: happen after that ? do you think the PD will retrogress again ? or keep moving
: forward ? thanks !

r********n
发帖数: 1162
138
yes, I think it may retrogress again in the future, but not in the first
quarter of FY 2012. It may stick to one date for several months before
retrogression. I have explained why last week. The newly submitted cases
will not be ready for approval in the first quarter of FY 2012. It takes 3-4
months to get ready.
If you look at the Philippine FB4 date movement, you will have some ideas.
Currently PH FB4 is in 1988.
May 2010-1987 (DOS realized the demand was not enough, notified NVC)
Sep 2010-1/1/1991 (many new cases rushed into their system)
Oct/Nov 2010-4/1/1991 (sticked to 1991 because not many cases were ready to
use visa number, it took 3-4 months to process new cases)
Dec 2010-1/1/1988 (they got enough cases ready for approval, then retrogress)
July 2011-5/15/1988
You can see that they moved PD big steps in the last quarter of FY 2010.
They kept the 1991 PD for almost 3 months in the first quarter of FY 2011
because they didn't have any approvable cases yet. After 3-4 months, some of
these cases got ready for approval, then they got enough demand and moved
the PD back to 1988.
I think EB2 China may follow the same pattern.

what
to
moving

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】
: thanks for the info, rocketsfan.
: that's a very interesting story about Philippine FB4. I am curious on what
: happened after their PD has a big jump---was there any retrogress ?
: I think right now EB2IC may have a similar situation this summer; everyone
: believes PD will have a big jump into 2008; if that's true what's going to
: happen after that ? do you think the PD will retrogress again ? or keep moving
: forward ? thanks !

g*****e
发帖数: 420
139
2009 09 的还是没戏呀
又悲剧了
H**E
发帖数: 620
140
very good information. thanks ! yeah I agree with you -- if EB2IC jump a
big step this summer most likely the PD follow the same pattern.
Right now the key thing is how far they want to jump forward..... so far
the latest PD got fee notice is June 2008 right ? unfortunately my PD is
July 2008... kind of right across the line.... let's keep our fingers
crossed.

-4
to

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: yes, I think it may retrogress again in the future, but not in the first
: quarter of FY 2012. It may stick to one date for several months before
: retrogression. I have explained why last week. The newly submitted cases
: will not be ready for approval in the first quarter of FY 2012. It takes 3-4
: months to get ready.
: If you look at the Philippine FB4 date movement, you will have some ideas.
: Currently PH FB4 is in 1988.
: May 2010-1987 (DOS realized the demand was not enough, notified NVC)
: Sep 2010-1/1/1991 (many new cases rushed into their system)
: Oct/Nov 2010-4/1/1991 (sticked to 1991 because not many cases were ready to

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a***n
发帖数: 665
141
rocketsfan, this is a perfect case study you've done.
all your efforts and info are much appreciated.

-4
to

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: yes, I think it may retrogress again in the future, but not in the first
: quarter of FY 2012. It may stick to one date for several months before
: retrogression. I have explained why last week. The newly submitted cases
: will not be ready for approval in the first quarter of FY 2012. It takes 3-4
: months to get ready.
: If you look at the Philippine FB4 date movement, you will have some ideas.
: Currently PH FB4 is in 1988.
: May 2010-1987 (DOS realized the demand was not enough, notified NVC)
: Sep 2010-1/1/1991 (many new cases rushed into their system)
: Oct/Nov 2010-4/1/1991 (sticked to 1991 because not many cases were ready to

r********n
发帖数: 1162
142
you are very welcome!
I just want to share my research with my chinese fellows!
I hope it can help us understand the DOS/NVC/USCIS process better.

【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: rocketsfan, this is a perfect case study you've done.
: all your efforts and info are much appreciated.
:
: -4
: to

H******i
发帖数: 4704
143
大批象我一样的新警察会买的!
什么是fee notice? 什么是SO? 可以简单扫一下盲吗?
为什么网上说NVC是私营公司呢?我太欣赏火箭饭用NVC的收费通知来预测PD current
dates!
National Visa Center (NVC): A private company located in Portsmouth, New
Hampshire that processes certain immigration filings under contract with the
U.S. Department of State (DOS). In appropriate cases, NVC receives approved
green card petitions from USCIS or DOS and continues the green card process
by sending forms and instructions to the applicant, receiving the forms and
supporting documents back from the applicant, and then forwarding the
applicant’s file to the proper U.S. embassy or consulate abroad.
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS): An agency of the
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) responsible for ruling on immigration
and naturalization matters and establishing immigration policies and
priorities. USCIS was formerly called the Immigration and Naturalization
Service (INS) and was part of the U.S. Department of Justice. On March 1,
2003, INS transitioned into DHS. Thus, INS no longer exists.
USCIS functions include adjudication of immigrant visa petitions,
adjudication of naturalization petitions, adjudication of asylum and refugee
applications, adjudications performed at the service centers, and all other
adjudications formerly performed by the INS.
Department of State (DOS)
r********n
发帖数: 1162
144
Like what I said: NVC date should be the most conservative date they
determined based on the demand data. I think the final PD will be several
months or one year later than the NVC notice.
The Phillipine had PD 1989 and got notice when the VB had a date of 1987.
But the final VB released with PD 1/1/1991. I don't know whether the folks
with 1990 received any fee notice or not, but I am sure NVC was sure the PD
will move to AT LEAST 1989.

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】
: very good information. thanks ! yeah I agree with you -- if EB2IC jump a
: big step this summer most likely the PD follow the same pattern.
: Right now the key thing is how far they want to jump forward..... so far
: the latest PD got fee notice is June 2008 right ? unfortunately my PD is
: July 2008... kind of right across the line.... let's keep our fingers
: crossed.
:
: -4
: to

r********n
发帖数: 1162
145
Fee notice: ask people to pay fee for consulate green card interview
SO: spill over, all the left over of EB1 and EB2 ROW go to EB C&I.

the
approved
process
and

【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: 大批象我一样的新警察会买的!
: 什么是fee notice? 什么是SO? 可以简单扫一下盲吗?
: 为什么网上说NVC是私营公司呢?我太欣赏火箭饭用NVC的收费通知来预测PD current
: dates!
: National Visa Center (NVC): A private company located in Portsmouth, New
: Hampshire that processes certain immigration filings under contract with the
: U.S. Department of State (DOS). In appropriate cases, NVC receives approved
: green card petitions from USCIS or DOS and continues the green card process
: by sending forms and instructions to the applicant, receiving the forms and
: supporting documents back from the applicant, and then forwarding the

H******i
发帖数: 4704
146
Thank you!

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Fee notice: ask people to pay fee for consulate green card interview
: SO: spill over, all the left over of EB1 and EB2 ROW go to EB C&I.
:
: the
: approved
: process
: and

b**********s
发帖数: 50
147
Rocketsfan: Thanks a lot for this informatiom. Just got a quick question for
you: My old Priority Date is Mar2008, it looks likely I can submit my 485
this coming Sep and several months after. But since I changed the job, I am
still doing my new PERM ads now, hopefully i can submit PERM at end of this
July. luckily It will probably take two months to get PERM approved. After
that, should I submit 140 and 485 together? someone already suggested me to
file 140 first, then 485, but I am afraid the retrogress, what do you think?
Thanks a lot.

-4
to

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: yes, I think it may retrogress again in the future, but not in the first
: quarter of FY 2012. It may stick to one date for several months before
: retrogression. I have explained why last week. The newly submitted cases
: will not be ready for approval in the first quarter of FY 2012. It takes 3-4
: months to get ready.
: If you look at the Philippine FB4 date movement, you will have some ideas.
: Currently PH FB4 is in 1988.
: May 2010-1987 (DOS realized the demand was not enough, notified NVC)
: Sep 2010-1/1/1991 (many new cases rushed into their system)
: Oct/Nov 2010-4/1/1991 (sticked to 1991 because not many cases were ready to

r********n
发帖数: 1162
148
I think your PERM will be approved by Oct.1st.
If your PD becomes current, of course you should submit 140 and 485 at the
same time.
Keep a close eye on the coming VBs.

for
am
this
to
think?

【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】
: Rocketsfan: Thanks a lot for this informatiom. Just got a quick question for
: you: My old Priority Date is Mar2008, it looks likely I can submit my 485
: this coming Sep and several months after. But since I changed the job, I am
: still doing my new PERM ads now, hopefully i can submit PERM at end of this
: July. luckily It will probably take two months to get PERM approved. After
: that, should I submit 140 and 485 together? someone already suggested me to
: file 140 first, then 485, but I am afraid the retrogress, what do you think?
: Thanks a lot.
:
: -4

b**********s
发帖数: 50
149
Thanks for the qucik response. If I am going to file the 140 and 485
togehter, will they port my old PD to the New I-140 thanks. And will it
cause any confusion for those Officer, Thanks a lot.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I think your PERM will be approved by Oct.1st.
: If your PD becomes current, of course you should submit 140 and 485 at the
: same time.
: Keep a close eye on the coming VBs.
:
: for
: am
: this
: to
: think?

y***n
发帖数: 6764
150
真要在6/2008的基础上再加一年的话,09PD的可真要开始兴奋了

PD

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Like what I said: NVC date should be the most conservative date they
: determined based on the demand data. I think the final PD will be several
: months or one year later than the NVC notice.
: The Phillipine had PD 1989 and got notice when the VB had a date of 1987.
: But the final VB released with PD 1/1/1991. I don't know whether the folks
: with 1990 received any fee notice or not, but I am sure NVC was sure the PD
: will move to AT LEAST 1989.

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p***e
发帖数: 29053
151
personally I gave rocketsfan 10 baozhi
hehe
s******7
发帖数: 1091
152
i gave 3 :))

【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: personally I gave rocketsfan 10 baozhi
: hehe

z********a
发帖数: 280
153
Because of company relocation, I have to restart the whole process including
the PERM and I-140 submission. So I have the same question here, can the
PD transfer only after new I-140 been approved? As everybody know, it take a
long time to approve new I-140. Thanks a lot for instructions!

【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for the qucik response. If I am going to file the 140 and 485
: togehter, will they port my old PD to the New I-140 thanks. And will it
: cause any confusion for those Officer, Thanks a lot.

H**E
发帖数: 620
154
thanks for your message rocketsfan. that's encouraging.

PD

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Like what I said: NVC date should be the most conservative date they
: determined based on the demand data. I think the final PD will be several
: months or one year later than the NVC notice.
: The Phillipine had PD 1989 and got notice when the VB had a date of 1987.
: But the final VB released with PD 1/1/1991. I don't know whether the folks
: with 1990 received any fee notice or not, but I am sure NVC was sure the PD
: will move to AT LEAST 1989.

m*********e
发帖数: 248
155
对啊对啊
先送个包子给火箭扇,
辛苦了啊.

【在 y***n 的大作中提到】
: 真要在6/2008的基础上再加一年的话,09PD的可真要开始兴奋了
:
: PD

r********n
发帖数: 1162
156
I don't know the relink issue.
I hope other guys can answer it.
best blesses to you guys.

including
a

【在 z********a 的大作中提到】
: Because of company relocation, I have to restart the whole process including
: the PERM and I-140 submission. So I have the same question here, can the
: PD transfer only after new I-140 been approved? As everybody know, it take a
: long time to approve new I-140. Thanks a lot for instructions!

J********t
发帖数: 240
157
我不指望进到09年,能进到08年然后能稳步前进我就知足了。

【在 y***n 的大作中提到】
: 真要在6/2008的基础上再加一年的话,09PD的可真要开始兴奋了
:
: PD

b**********s
发帖数: 50
158
Another question: Can I doing Premium Process for 140 if I am going to file
140 and 485 togehter? Thanks a lot, No Baozhi yet, otherwise I will Baozhi
to whoever answered my questions. Thanks again.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I don't know the relink issue.
: I hope other guys can answer it.
: best blesses to you guys.
:
: including
: a

r********n
发帖数: 1162
159
I think you can.

file

【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】
: Another question: Can I doing Premium Process for 140 if I am going to file
: 140 and 485 togehter? Thanks a lot, No Baozhi yet, otherwise I will Baozhi
: to whoever answered my questions. Thanks again.

g*******k
发帖数: 159
160
我在今年4月初收到NVC FEE NOTICE,当时在版上发帖,被人BS,说这些FEE NOTICE和
排期没有关系。我的PD是2006年11月,现在看来,确实NVC是在PD到之前两三个月发出
FEE NOTICE。
是为佐证。
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s****t
发帖数: 427
161
good supporting evidence.

【在 g*******k 的大作中提到】
: 我在今年4月初收到NVC FEE NOTICE,当时在版上发帖,被人BS,说这些FEE NOTICE和
: 排期没有关系。我的PD是2006年11月,现在看来,确实NVC是在PD到之前两三个月发出
: FEE NOTICE。
: 是为佐证。

r********n
发帖数: 1162
162
what is your PD? On June 10th, you said "我的排期还差一个月".
I thought your PD is April 2007.

【在 g*******k 的大作中提到】
: 我在今年4月初收到NVC FEE NOTICE,当时在版上发帖,被人BS,说这些FEE NOTICE和
: 排期没有关系。我的PD是2006年11月,现在看来,确实NVC是在PD到之前两三个月发出
: FEE NOTICE。
: 是为佐证。

V*********l
发帖数: 660
163
赞。。。。。。。
r********n
发帖数: 1162
164
I agree.
You received the NVC notice because Mr.O release a news through AILA in
April: there are more than 12k spillover from EB1 in the first two quarters.
That news drove him to notify NVC to send out those notices. It's not a
coincidence at all.

【在 g*******k 的大作中提到】
: 我在今年4月初收到NVC FEE NOTICE,当时在版上发帖,被人BS,说这些FEE NOTICE和
: 排期没有关系。我的PD是2006年11月,现在看来,确实NVC是在PD到之前两三个月发出
: FEE NOTICE。
: 是为佐证。

g*******k
发帖数: 159
165
火箭大人明察秋毫,其实我本人的PD是07年3月底,排期在11月又收到fee notice是我
一个朋友,懒得解释这么多,所以都用本人的名义,还是让火箭大人看出来了。

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: what is your PD? On June 10th, you said "我的排期还差一个月".
: I thought your PD is April 2007.

s******7
发帖数: 1091
166
火箭牛的。。。
y****1
发帖数: 213
167
Rocketsfan, is it possible for PD 7/18/08 to submit 485 in this Sep.?
40%, 50%, 60%.....?

quarters.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I agree.
: You received the NVC notice because Mr.O release a news through AILA in
: April: there are more than 12k spillover from EB1 in the first two quarters.
: That news drove him to notify NVC to send out those notices. It's not a
: coincidence at all.

a***n
发帖数: 665
168
based on what i learned from this board, i think the
rule of thumb for PD cutoff prediction is:
PD of CP cases - 1 yr
so, its not "再加一年", rather its "再减一年"

【在 y***n 的大作中提到】
: 真要在6/2008的基础上再加一年的话,09PD的可真要开始兴奋了
:
: PD

l****l
发帖数: 3394
169
这个月发08/06,下个月就发11/03了!哈哈
U********n
发帖数: 471
170
还是不明白.是说发fee notice给还没交485的吗?
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f********s
发帖数: 416
171
赞火箭明察秋毫,思维缜密,分析推理有理有据。
s******h
发帖数: 344
172
Great Stuff! If my PD become current this sept. I will give all my baozi to
you.

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she had PD of 1989.

j*e
发帖数: 1987
173
根据我的调查,NVC fee和Visa Bulletin的相关性被严重高估。楼主找到一个case,就
认为NVC fee notice代表未来几个月VB,是以偏概全。这个case完全可能是凑巧。
我找到另一个case说明NVC fee notice完全有可能错估VB,见http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/266671-nvc-and-priority-dates/
这个阿根廷人申请FB1类,PD大约是07年8月,去年7月他就收到NVC fee notice,然而
一年过去了,FB1-ROW的排期还在04年徘徊,虽然中间曾经到达过06年2月的高点(见http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Cut-off_Dates_worldwide_online.pdf),但后
来又大幅倒退(http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_1770.html),此人的PD到current还遥遥无期。照楼主的说法,NVC fee是most
conservative的,那他早就应该排到了。
r********n
发帖数: 1162
174
We don't know his/her PD. We can't tell from this post.
How could you figure out his/her PD?

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 根据我的调查,NVC fee和Visa Bulletin的相关性被严重高估。楼主找到一个case,就
: 认为NVC fee notice代表未来几个月VB,是以偏概全。这个case完全可能是凑巧。
: 我找到另一个case说明NVC fee notice完全有可能错估VB,见http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/266671-nvc-and-priority-dates/
: 这个阿根廷人申请FB1类,PD大约是07年8月,去年7月他就收到NVC fee notice,然而
: 一年过去了,FB1-ROW的排期还在04年徘徊,虽然中间曾经到达过06年2月的高点(见http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Cut-off_Dates_worldwide_online.pdf),但后
: 来又大幅倒退(http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_1770.html),此人的PD到current还遥遥无期。照楼主的说法,NVC fee是most
: conservative的,那他早就应该排到了。

j*e
发帖数: 1987
175
He said "According to the Visa Bulletin, my priority date is going to be in
2 years"
发帖时间去年7/24,去年的7月,8月FB1-ROW的VB都是Aug 05,推两年就是Aug 07

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: We don't know his/her PD. We can't tell from this post.
: How could you figure out his/her PD?

r********n
发帖数: 1162
176
Time=Distance/Speed.
Everybody knows the slow speed of GC, it's very possible he made that
statement based on the moving speed of VB.
This case is not clear at all. Additionally I doubt this guy really knows
his PD.

in

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: He said "According to the Visa Bulletin, my priority date is going to be in
: 2 years"
: 发帖时间去年7/24,去年的7月,8月FB1-ROW的VB都是Aug 05,推两年就是Aug 07

j*e
发帖数: 1987
177
FB1-ROW moved fast in the past year when the author post his question.
FB1-ROW Aug09VB = 1/8/03. Aug10VB=8/1/05, PD moved more than 2 years in just
1 year.
Believe what you want to believe is easy. Believe what you don't want to is
not so easy.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Time=Distance/Speed.
: Everybody knows the slow speed of GC, it's very possible he made that
: statement based on the moving speed of VB.
: This case is not clear at all. Additionally I doubt this guy really knows
: his PD.
:
: in

s*******e
发帖数: 629
178
It does not mean his PD is Aug. 2007.

in

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: He said "According to the Visa Bulletin, my priority date is going to be in
: 2 years"
: 发帖时间去年7/24,去年的7月,8月FB1-ROW的VB都是Aug 05,推两年就是Aug 07

s*******e
发帖数: 629
179
Rocketsfan is correct.
j*e
发帖数: 1987
180
如果他的PD是06年,而当时VB已经排到05年8月的时候,你认为他会说“According to
the Visa Bulletin, my priority date is going to be in 2 years”吗? 尤其是考
虑到在他发帖的过去一年中FB1-ROW的排期大幅跃进了两年。

【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: It does not mean his PD is Aug. 2007.
:
: in

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demand is picking up放个卫星。。。
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s*******e
发帖数: 629
181
We are all just guessing. Nothing is clear until we can find out his real PD
.
j*e
发帖数: 1987
182
你可以继续选择性相信什么是real,什么是unreal。我只是客观陈述推理,相信版上有
头脑的人都会自己分析。

PD

【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: We are all just guessing. Nothing is clear until we can find out his real PD
: .

b*********n
发帖数: 2975
183
let's find more cases to do inference, hehe

你可以继续选择性相信什么是real,什么是unreal。我只是客观陈述推理,相信版上有
头脑的人都会自己分析。
PD

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 你可以继续选择性相信什么是real,什么是unreal。我只是客观陈述推理,相信版上有
: 头脑的人都会自己分析。
:
: PD

r********n
发帖数: 1162
184
Thanks for your efforts finding this case. The only thing is that this post
didn't provide his PD clearly. Of course it is possible that his PD is in
2007.
It gave us a reminder that we shouldn't be too confident about my previous
analysis. I will try to do more research about it.

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 你可以继续选择性相信什么是real,什么是unreal。我只是客观陈述推理,相信版上有
: 头脑的人都会自己分析。
:
: PD

g**o
发帖数: 15
185
jwe,
你的选择性相信是unreal。因为你找到的那个例子不是NVC processing fee notice.
That's Form DS-3032 and the affidavit of support fee.
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/80023.pdf
我本人5/23收到了Immigrant Visa Application Processing Fee Bill Invoice。 所
以我知道它不是Form DS-3032,也不是 affidavit of support fee。My PD is 2/20/
2008.

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 你可以继续选择性相信什么是real,什么是unreal。我只是客观陈述推理,相信版上有
: 头脑的人都会自己分析。
:
: PD

f*******u
发帖数: 660
186
ahoh, somebody is ruining the party
H**E
发帖数: 620
187
no don't put it in that way.
it's all predictions, nobody knows for sure what's Mr. O's move for next.
more information/discussion from a different point of view is always better
and should be encouraged.

【在 f*******u 的大作中提到】
: ahoh, somebody is ruining the party
r********n
发帖数: 1162
188
cool! I didn't know they have two kinds of notices.
Could you please explain the difference?

【在 g**o 的大作中提到】
: jwe,
: 你的选择性相信是unreal。因为你找到的那个例子不是NVC processing fee notice.
: That's Form DS-3032 and the affidavit of support fee.
: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/80023.pdf
: 我本人5/23收到了Immigrant Visa Application Processing Fee Bill Invoice。 所
: 以我知道它不是Form DS-3032,也不是 affidavit of support fee。My PD is 2/20/
: 2008.

r********n
发帖数: 1162
189
yes, it's good to hear different opinions.
It's a forum for discussion and we should work together.

better

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】
: no don't put it in that way.
: it's all predictions, nobody knows for sure what's Mr. O's move for next.
: more information/discussion from a different point of view is always better
: and should be encouraged.

f*******u
发帖数: 660
190
K, my bad.thanks for all the information and analysis:)

better

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】
: no don't put it in that way.
: it's all predictions, nobody knows for sure what's Mr. O's move for next.
: more information/discussion from a different point of view is always better
: and should be encouraged.

相关主题
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更新estimationDC地区的FP Notice都要3个月?!
俺们差两个月没进门的得啥时候才能进门啊?这个月会不会发2008pd的绿卡?
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s*******e
发帖数: 629
191
This is the place WE like. :)
k********o
发帖数: 1139
192
是啊,你们双方虽然持不同观点,但都是理性的讨论。现在大家又学习了新的知识,原
来还有这么多不同的收费notice。多谢!

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: yes, it's good to hear different opinions.
: It's a forum for discussion and we should work together.
:
: better

r********n
发帖数: 1162
193
I did further analysis and what you said makes perfect sense now. Thanks for providing this important clue.
There are two type of fees from NVC.
The affidavit of support processing fee (also called AOS fee)
immigrant visa processing fee (IV fee).


【在 g**o 的大作中提到】
: jwe,
: 你的选择性相信是unreal。因为你找到的那个例子不是NVC processing fee notice.
: That's Form DS-3032 and the affidavit of support fee.
: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/80023.pdf
: 我本人5/23收到了Immigrant Visa Application Processing Fee Bill Invoice。 所
: 以我知道它不是Form DS-3032,也不是 affidavit of support fee。My PD is 2/20/
: 2008.

k********o
发帖数: 1139
194
good finding...

the
.
card
sent
the

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I did further analysis and what you said makes perfect sense now. Thanks for providing this important clue.
: There are two type of fees from NVC.
: The affidavit of support processing fee (also called AOS fee)
: immigrant visa processing fee (IV fee).
:

j*e
发帖数: 1987
195
According to http://www.immihelp.com/immigrant-visa/nvc-aos-fee-iv-fee-payment.html
DS-3032 就是IV fee。
那个阿根廷人说"10 days ago I received from the NVC the Form DS-3032 and the
affidavit of support fee"
就是说他同时收到了AOS fee和IV fee notice.
r********n
发帖数: 1162
196
No, you misunderstood it.
On immihelp website you pointed to, it said: "the IV fee will be sent to the
applicant or agent designated by the applicant on the Form DS-3032."
DS-3032 is not IV fee. DS-3032 only tells NVC where the IV fee bill should be
sent to.


the

【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: According to http://www.immihelp.com/immigrant-visa/nvc-aos-fee-iv-fee-payment.html
: DS-3032 就是IV fee。
: 那个阿根廷人说"10 days ago I received from the NVC the Form DS-3032 and the
: affidavit of support fee"
: 就是说他同时收到了AOS fee和IV fee notice.

j*e
发帖数: 1987
197
多谢澄清。
但是你在顶楼举的这个菲律宾人的例子,也是讲他收到的DS-3032,“Recently, we
received from the NVC various forms for my brother’s immigrant visa
processing, such as Choice of Address and Agent form.”这里的“Choice of
Address and Agent”不就是DS-3032吗?
而且从这个帖子看"http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/134404-when-will-nvc-invoice-my-iv-fee-bill/"
有人说"After DS-3032 confirmation, you can expect one week to get IV fee
bill invoiced"
也就是说DS-3032跟IV fee之间是非常接近的。

the
be

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: No, you misunderstood it.
: On immihelp website you pointed to, it said: "the IV fee will be sent to the
: applicant or agent designated by the applicant on the Form DS-3032."
: DS-3032 is not IV fee. DS-3032 only tells NVC where the IV fee bill should be
: sent to.
:
:
: the

h**********8
发帖数: 267
198
very appreciated, 赞

for providing this important clue.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I did further analysis and what you said makes perfect sense now. Thanks for providing this important clue.
: There are two type of fees from NVC.
: The affidavit of support processing fee (also called AOS fee)
: immigrant visa processing fee (IV fee).
:

h**********8
发帖数: 267
199
re
p****e
发帖数: 29
200
弱问一声:
什么人才会收到这样的通知?如果是自己办的,也会收到么?
谢谢!
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NVC Q&A2009年3月的,什么时候递485???
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r********n
发帖数: 1162
201
Now I look back to this post and I think NVC notice is a good indicator of
future movement. In this summer I verified an Indian NVC notice of 4/15/2008
(credible source), but some other Indian folks claimed they got NVC notice
with PD June 2008. Maybe these guys are also credible, but I never verified
with them personally.

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she had PD of 1989.

t******1
发帖数: 1263
202
this summer,2010summer吧,那您的意思是下个月完全有可能前进到2008年6月左右?

2008
notice
verified

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Now I look back to this post and I think NVC notice is a good indicator of
: future movement. In this summer I verified an Indian NVC notice of 4/15/2008
: (credible source), but some other Indian folks claimed they got NVC notice
: with PD June 2008. Maybe these guys are also credible, but I never verified
: with them personally.
:
: notice
: 1989.

r********n
发帖数: 1162
203
yes, 2010 summer.
I think in the next two months, it should be able to reach 2008.06.
after two bulletins, NVC will start sending out NVC notices again (they send
notices in March-June). I bet anything they will send notices to PD as late
as 2009.06.

【在 t******1 的大作中提到】
: this summer,2010summer吧,那您的意思是下个月完全有可能前进到2008年6月左右?
:
: 2008
: notice
: verified

f********s
发帖数: 416
204
火箭,PD 12/2008什么时候能current?
a******m
发帖数: 1112
205
顺路请大牛给估计一下,08年9月的PD,大概什么时候能交I-485?
y**z
发帖数: 332
206
Are we all supposed to receive the NVC fee notice? I have moved a few times
since my I140 (perm pd is 05/09/08) got approved, waiting to submit 485.
Will this notice send to the employer or my personal address?

【在 g**o 的大作中提到】
: jwe,
: 你的选择性相信是unreal。因为你找到的那个例子不是NVC processing fee notice.
: That's Form DS-3032 and the affidavit of support fee.
: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/80023.pdf
: 我本人5/23收到了Immigrant Visa Application Processing Fee Bill Invoice。 所
: 以我知道它不是Form DS-3032,也不是 affidavit of support fee。My PD is 2/20/
: 2008.

S*******r
发帖数: 11017
207
你是交485的 不归NVC管
除非你回国等CP 这样才能收到NVC的收费通知

times

【在 y**z 的大作中提到】
: Are we all supposed to receive the NVC fee notice? I have moved a few times
: since my I140 (perm pd is 05/09/08) got approved, waiting to submit 485.
: Will this notice send to the employer or my personal address?

r********n
发帖数: 1162
208
Guys, breaking news!!!
NVC started sending fee notices again! Today we have a confirmed case of
July 2008! I think EB2 CI will move forward big time in the next few VBs!
http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/consular-processi

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she had PD of 1989.

S*******r
发帖数: 11017
209
So VB will reach July 2008 in next 6 months?

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Guys, breaking news!!!
: NVC started sending fee notices again! Today we have a confirmed case of
: July 2008! I think EB2 CI will move forward big time in the next few VBs!
: http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/consular-processi
:
: notice
: 1989.

r********n
发帖数: 1162
210
definitely.
I think VB will reach July-Dec.2008 in the next two VBs if I am not wrong.

【在 S*******r 的大作中提到】
: So VB will reach July 2008 in next 6 months?
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S*******r
发帖数: 11017
211
If you read the original thread, the attorney also urged people not to "
slice the information too thin" here. I agree with him: perhaps even DOS
doesn't know how many demands are out there waiting for submitting I-485.
All they can do is best estimate it.
But still, if they start to send out NVC fee bills for PD on July-08, it is
definitely a positive sign.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: definitely.
: I think VB will reach July-Dec.2008 in the next two VBs if I am not wrong.

y**********r
发帖数: 2004
212
Re!到达12月2008之后就要倒退了吗
c******4
发帖数: 933
213
It's great news. thanks.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Guys, breaking news!!!
: NVC started sending fee notices again! Today we have a confirmed case of
: July 2008! I think EB2 CI will move forward big time in the next few VBs!
: http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/consular-processi
:
: notice
: 1989.

N*******r
发帖数: 1098
214
Thatt is a conservative estimation (reach to June or July 20008, and then
wait to see what next move is?) based on the current situation. Is it?
N*******r
发帖数: 1098
215
Thatt is a conservative estimation (reach to June or July 20008, and then
wait to see what next move is?) based on the current situation. Is it?
S*******r
发帖数: 11017
216
I remember Rocketsfan made a call that VB will move to Mar-08 in summer 2011
based upon the NVC fee notice. You can probably still find his prediction
here in this thread. No offense to him but I think he read too much into
this kind of information. VB didn't reach Mar08 untill a couple of weeks ago
. The bottom line is no one can accurately predict it even it's Mr.O. Why?
cuz no one knows how many real demands are out there at this point.
Now back to your question. Will VB retrogress in the future? Someone will
say yes cuz Mr.O said so. But I think it's still up in the air cuz it's
still a question mark whether Mr.O will collect enough I-485s as a result of
VB movements lately. If he ends up with less demands than he thought,
retrogressing VB will the last thing he wanna do.

【在 y**********r 的大作中提到】
: Re!到达12月2008之后就要倒退了吗
r********n
发帖数: 1162
217
yes, it is a conservative estimation.
Also one thing I want to point out:
usually NVC send out notices in batches month by month after the monthly VB.
This exactly what happened in April-June. NVC sent notices after each
release of VB in April, May and June.This time it was sent right after the
release of Dec.VB.
although we only see July 2008 in this batch, it's very likely they may send
out more notices in the next month.That's why I predict it may reach Dec.
2008 in the next two or three VBs.
Ron didn't want to damage his reputation and he wants to be conservative.
From my experience, NVC notice is such a strong indicator and I am almost
certain PD will reach Oct.-Dec.2008 in the coming months.
Guys, hang in there! good luck to everybody! Happy Thanksgiving!

【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】
: Thatt is a conservative estimation (reach to June or July 20008, and then
: wait to see what next move is?) based on the current situation. Is it?

r********n
发帖数: 1162
218
yes, I predicted March 2008 in this summer. Although PD didn't reach March
2008 in September, it reached March 2008 in this December, just some time
lag.
I think NVC notice is such a strong indicator! it definitely points out the
future movement! although some time lag may happen!
cheer up and good luck to folks with 2008-2011 PDs.

2011
ago
of

【在 S*******r 的大作中提到】
: I remember Rocketsfan made a call that VB will move to Mar-08 in summer 2011
: based upon the NVC fee notice. You can probably still find his prediction
: here in this thread. No offense to him but I think he read too much into
: this kind of information. VB didn't reach Mar08 untill a couple of weeks ago
: . The bottom line is no one can accurately predict it even it's Mr.O. Why?
: cuz no one knows how many real demands are out there at this point.
: Now back to your question. Will VB retrogress in the future? Someone will
: say yes cuz Mr.O said so. But I think it's still up in the air cuz it's
: still a question mark whether Mr.O will collect enough I-485s as a result of
: VB movements lately. If he ends up with less demands than he thought,

c**l
发帖数: 1022
219
顶一个,火箭的帖子总是鼓舞人心.
y**********r
发帖数: 2004
220
;)
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great news-USCIS stopped processing new cases更新estimation
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N*******r
发帖数: 1098
221
Agree, it really depends on how many demands received recently.
Once VB reaches to June or July in Jan. 2012 hopefully, it will crawl again
in Feb and March even April until the SO season comes. Last year the season
started in April.
y**********r
发帖数: 2004
222
;)
M**U
发帖数: 2752
223
如果真的如此,2012到09底很有希望呀!10年PD还是有希望13年排到的!

Agree, it really depends on how many demands received recently.Once VB
reaches to June o........
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.28

【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】
: Agree, it really depends on how many demands received recently.
: Once VB reaches to June or July in Jan. 2012 hopefully, it will crawl again
: in Feb and March even April until the SO season comes. Last year the season
: started in April.

N*******r
发帖数: 1098
224
Only one pre-condition, the SO is bigger enough for Eb2 - 30K or more like
this year.
And, 09 PD number is the lowest in recent yrs. 10 PD definitely could see
current in FY13.
Another possible factor is HR3012 which can speed up the process too.
y**********r
发帖数: 2004
225
希望如此,等着下月排期了。

【在 M**U 的大作中提到】
: 如果真的如此,2012到09底很有希望呀!10年PD还是有希望13年排到的!
:
: Agree, it really depends on how many demands received recently.Once VB
: reaches to June o........
: ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.28

l****i
发帖数: 3339
226
不是吧 期望值只到7月?
3个月大踏步 我寻思还能到09年呢

【在 y**********r 的大作中提到】
: 希望如此,等着下月排期了。
y**********r
发帖数: 2004
227
希望到09,不过谁知道会不会在明年三月倒退呢

【在 l****i 的大作中提到】
: 不是吧 期望值只到7月?
: 3个月大踏步 我寻思还能到09年呢

a***x
发帖数: 26368
228
俺,俺,俺

【在 y**********r 的大作中提到】
: 希望到09,不过谁知道会不会在明年三月倒退呢
t******g
发帖数: 3641
229
明年要是能到09年9月就好了
c*******l
发帖数: 823
230
顶火箭!

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Guys, breaking news!!!
: NVC started sending fee notices again! Today we have a confirmed case of
: July 2008! I think EB2 CI will move forward big time in the next few VBs!
: http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/consular-processi
:
: notice
: 1989.

相关主题
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y**********r
发帖数: 2004
231
Re

【在 t******g 的大作中提到】
: 明年要是能到09年9月就好了
s******h
发帖数: 344
232
顶一下!看了火箭兄的帖子总是感觉热血沸腾。呵呵!
r********n
发帖数: 1162
233
I believe the PD will move to 2010 in this summer.
Many Indians have received NVC notice in the fist half of 2009. Several
months ago we were talking about PD movement to April 2008, but it turns out
the reality is even more opmistic than our expecation. I would say even the
prediction based on NVC notice is kind of conservative. I predict the PD
will move to 2010 in this summer.

notice
1989.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: In this weekend I did further analysis of the relationship of NVC fee notice
: and PD movement.
: I have an interesting finding: In this summer the EB2 will definitely move
: to April 2008 or further! NVC is not sending these fee notices randomly.
: They won't send fee notices until they think it is going to be current in
: several months.
: I searched more topics about NVC fee notice and came cross this article
: online.
: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=571561&publicati
: In May 2010, a Phillipine FB4 case got fee notice and he/she had PD of 1989.

S*******r
发帖数: 11017
234
我刚刚还在另外一个贴深情祝福你呢
你那事整的咋样啦?

out
the

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I believe the PD will move to 2010 in this summer.
: Many Indians have received NVC notice in the fist half of 2009. Several
: months ago we were talking about PD movement to April 2008, but it turns out
: the reality is even more opmistic than our expecation. I would say even the
: prediction based on NVC notice is kind of conservative. I predict the PD
: will move to 2010 in this summer.
:
: notice
: 1989.

m****o
发帖数: 4921
235
PD
will move to 2010 in this summer.
done deal!
l*******o
发帖数: 2795
236
火箭饭也出来了。希望如你所说呦。
l****n
发帖数: 3081
237
after summer?

out
the

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I believe the PD will move to 2010 in this summer.
: Many Indians have received NVC notice in the fist half of 2009. Several
: months ago we were talking about PD movement to April 2008, but it turns out
: the reality is even more opmistic than our expecation. I would say even the
: prediction based on NVC notice is kind of conservative. I predict the PD
: will move to 2010 in this summer.
:
: notice
: 1989.

z********o
发帖数: 3895
238
希望如此,
借大家吉言,
祝大家都早绿!
B*****g
发帖数: 34098
239
hoho, ding
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/EB23/31528621_3.html
发信人: Beijing (中国万岁,北京加油), 信区: EB23
标 题: 俺尼玛也预测一把
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 16 10:39:00 2011, 美东)
对不对你们都给我发包子吧。
2-3月前排期进到2009/7/1,5-6月排期会进到2010/1/1,年底之前EB2C就会C。

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the

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I believe the PD will move to 2010 in this summer.
: Many Indians have received NVC notice in the fist half of 2009. Several
: months ago we were talking about PD movement to April 2008, but it turns out
: the reality is even more opmistic than our expecation. I would say even the
: prediction based on NVC notice is kind of conservative. I predict the PD
: will move to 2010 in this summer.
:
: notice
: 1989.

r********n
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I would say in this summer or after this summer.
EB2 shouldn't wait for more than 2-3 years in the future.
EB2 is individuals with exceptional skills, why should USA make these guys
wait for too long? It doesn't make any sense. I think from the future they
will control the waiting time within 2-3 years.

【在 l****n 的大作中提到】
: after summer?
:
: out
: the

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r********n
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Thanks for your wishes!
Finally they filed my 485 after fighting for 1 month! It's such a pain to
deal with these guys. I hope it can go through. Life is not easy.

【在 S*******r 的大作中提到】
: 我刚刚还在另外一个贴深情祝福你呢
: 你那事整的咋样啦?
:
: out
: the

B*****g
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cong

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for your wishes!
: Finally they filed my 485 after fighting for 1 month! It's such a pain to
: deal with these guys. I hope it can go through. Life is not easy.

a*****a
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Cong!
a***x
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俺觉着你的来福够一级了

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for your wishes!
: Finally they filed my 485 after fighting for 1 month! It's such a pain to
: deal with these guys. I hope it can go through. Life is not easy.

h*******1
发帖数: 206
245
Right, right, right, Absolutely right! Ding Ding Ding until you high
Bozi chichichi highhighigh

【在 B*****g 的大作中提到】
: hoho, ding
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article/EB23/31528621_3.html
: 发信人: Beijing (中国万岁,北京加油), 信区: EB23
: 标 题: 俺尼玛也预测一把
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 16 10:39:00 2011, 美东)
: 对不对你们都给我发包子吧。
: 2-3月前排期进到2009/7/1,5-6月排期会进到2010/1/1,年底之前EB2C就会C。
:
: out
: the

c*******l
发帖数: 823
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Congratulations Rocketsfan.
Take it easy now and take a breathe. Life will move on.

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for your wishes!
: Finally they filed my 485 after fighting for 1 month! It's such a pain to
: deal with these guys. I hope it can go through. Life is not easy.

c*******l
发帖数: 823
247
Hope so.
Let's put our fingers crossed.

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the

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: I believe the PD will move to 2010 in this summer.
: Many Indians have received NVC notice in the fist half of 2009. Several
: months ago we were talking about PD movement to April 2008, but it turns out
: the reality is even more opmistic than our expecation. I would say even the
: prediction based on NVC notice is kind of conservative. I predict the PD
: will move to 2010 in this summer.
:
: notice
: 1989.

W******t
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hats off to rocketsfan!!!
今天看来, 你在11月所作预测无比精准!!

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: definitely.
: I think VB will reach July-Dec.2008 in the next two VBs if I am not wrong.

r********n
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Yes, my prediction of VB several months were accurate! It reached and passed
Dec.2008 as what I predicted.

VB.
send

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: yes, it is a conservative estimation.
: Also one thing I want to point out:
: usually NVC send out notices in batches month by month after the monthly VB.
: This exactly what happened in April-June. NVC sent notices after each
: release of VB in April, May and June.This time it was sent right after the
: release of Dec.VB.
: although we only see July 2008 in this batch, it's very likely they may send
: out more notices in the next month.That's why I predict it may reach Dec.
: 2008 in the next two or three VBs.
: Ron didn't want to damage his reputation and he wants to be conservative.

B*****g
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把下个月预测了,哈哈

passed

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Yes, my prediction of VB several months were accurate! It reached and passed
: Dec.2008 as what I predicted.
:
: VB.
: send

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n***s
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Big cong!

【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for your wishes!
: Finally they filed my 485 after fighting for 1 month! It's such a pain to
: deal with these guys. I hope it can go through. Life is not easy.

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