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EB23版 - IV 关于 Remove per-Country Limit 的 H.R. 3012
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b*********n
发帖数: 1258
1
不知道对我们有什么影响
We are pleased to announce that after 6 years of our hard work, your hard
work, we finally have a bill that has a very good chance of actually passing
in the Congress in next 6-8 weeks.
For over 6 months, members of Immigration Voice have been working behind the
scenes to bridge the gap between various sides, coordinating between
different groups, our employers and petitioning the Members of Congress. On
the 4th anniversary of Immigration Voice rally, members from across the
country organized over 160 meetings with the key decision makers in the
Congress. To prevent any unnecessary attention we coordinated and organized
these meetings with an energetic and highly motivated group of Immigration
Voice members and leaders.
On 22nd September, Congressman Chaffetz and Smith sponsored H.R. 3012 in the
US House of Representatives. We applaud Congressman Chaffetz and Judiciary
committee Chairman Lamar Smith for leading the effort for removing per
country limits. Here is the press release from Congressman Chaffetz website.
H.R. 3012 is scheduled to be marked-up in the House Judiciary Committee
this Thursday and Friday. See details here on Judiciary committee website.
Here is the bill summary. This is a pretty big deal given the fact that not
one bill for high skills immigration has passed Congress since AC21 Act in
Oct 2000. This will be the first one in 11 years.
H.R. 3012 will remove per-country limits in employment based green card
category. If enacted, this bill will drastically reduce the wait times of
everyone in the current backlogs. A similar bill was sponsored by
Congresswoman Lofgren in August, 2008. So removing per-country limits idea
has bi-partisan support in the Congress. Immigration Voice applauds
Congresswoman Lofgren's leadership on fixing high skilled immigration system.
The progress made on the idea of eliminating per country limits is not a
matter of chance. It’s a result of your confidence in your ability to
change the unfair system, and the investment that you have made over the
years by contributing to Immigration Voice. Your time, effort and
contributions have enabled us to persistently organize events to petition
the Congress for eliminating per-country limits in employment based green
cards.
If this bill fails, there will not be another bill in 2012 because that’s
an election year where legislations do not happen easily. In 2013, the
chances are slim again and depend on election outcomes. So this is it.
Again, we wouldn’t have been able to get this bill moving if it were not
for your persistence and the investment you have made in Immigration Voice.
Now that we are here, let’s take it to the finish line and be part of the
history in the making. For one more time, we request you to please
contribute to the community effort to help us finish the work we all started
together and get H.R.3012 pass in the Congress.
Here is the announcement on Immigration Voice website. We will be shortly
announcing concrete action items for making phone calls, emails and faxes,
both on forums and via newsletters. So please stay tuned, pay attention to
this bill and do your share. Because if this bill fails this year, it will
be a failure that likely sticks with all of us for next 2-3 years.
a***x
发帖数: 26368
2
没看出对老中有什么好的

passing
the
On
organized
the
Judiciary
website.

not
system.
.
started

【在 b*********n 的大作中提到】
: 不知道对我们有什么影响
: We are pleased to announce that after 6 years of our hard work, your hard
: work, we finally have a bill that has a very good chance of actually passing
: in the Congress in next 6-8 weeks.
: For over 6 months, members of Immigration Voice have been working behind the
: scenes to bridge the gap between various sides, coordinating between
: different groups, our employers and petitioning the Members of Congress. On
: the 4th anniversary of Immigration Voice rally, members from across the
: country organized over 160 meetings with the key decision makers in the
: Congress. To prevent any unnecessary attention we coordinated and organized

l****l
发帖数: 3394
3
不理解为什么看不出对老中不好...
中国人的心态通常是,咱俩一样穷,好过你比我富好多.
超级变态.
p******x
发帖数: 232
4
要是看不出对中国人的好处不外乎以下几种:
1. 太傻
2. 别有用心
3. 宁可自己不好也要让老印更惨

【在 a***x 的大作中提到】
: 没看出对老中有什么好的
:
: passing
: the
: On
: organized
: the
: Judiciary
: website.
:

a***x
发帖数: 26368
5
看不出就是看不出。

【在 l****l 的大作中提到】
: 不理解为什么看不出对老中不好...
: 中国人的心态通常是,咱俩一样穷,好过你比我富好多.
: 超级变态.

a***x
发帖数: 26368
6
还是没看出

【在 p******x 的大作中提到】
: 要是看不出对中国人的好处不外乎以下几种:
: 1. 太傻
: 2. 别有用心
: 3. 宁可自己不好也要让老印更惨

b*****n
发帖数: 185
7
要么弱智,要么装傻。

【在 a***x 的大作中提到】
: 还是没看出
a***x
发帖数: 26368
8
对俺弱智。来讲讲这跟中印捆绑有啥区别?

【在 b*****n 的大作中提到】
: 要么弱智,要么装傻。
b*********n
发帖数: 2975
9
区别是这回是世界人民大捆绑,不仅仅是中印两国了,呵呵

对俺弱智。来讲讲这跟中印捆绑有啥区别?

【在 a***x 的大作中提到】
: 对俺弱智。来讲讲这跟中印捆绑有啥区别?
d*******p
发帖数: 2525
10
中印捆绑?......
中印加起来拿85%+SO和14%+SO一样吗?
有些人觉得老印拿的好处比老中多,所以宁愿自己不要好处也不能让老印拿好处?这要
什么环境才能教出这样的变态?
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a***x
发帖数: 26368
11
捆吧捆吧,俺继续看热闹。

【在 b*********n 的大作中提到】
: 区别是这回是世界人民大捆绑,不仅仅是中印两国了,呵呵
:
: 对俺弱智。来讲讲这跟中印捆绑有啥区别?

a***x
发帖数: 26368
12
只需要在这里多呆呆。呵呵呵。阴暗面那阴暗面。

【在 d*******p 的大作中提到】
: 中印捆绑?......
: 中印加起来拿85%+SO和14%+SO一样吗?
: 有些人觉得老印拿的好处比老中多,所以宁愿自己不要好处也不能让老印拿好处?这要
: 什么环境才能教出这样的变态?

a***x
发帖数: 26368
13
不管怎么样,反正人吃肉,俺喝汤。喝就是了。不用那么激动。

【在 d*******p 的大作中提到】
: 中印捆绑?......
: 中印加起来拿85%+SO和14%+SO一样吗?
: 有些人觉得老印拿的好处比老中多,所以宁愿自己不要好处也不能让老印拿好处?这要
: 什么环境才能教出这样的变态?

p***e
发帖数: 29053
14
it is good to PD before 2010. But it may hurt a lot later......we may not
get our own 2800 hehe
that is my first thought.

【在 a***x 的大作中提到】
: 没看出对老中有什么好的
:
: passing
: the
: On
: organized
: the
: Judiciary
: website.
:

f***i
发帖数: 185
15
I cautiously agree
i think it will benefit me, a EB2C2009
but not sure for later EB2C and EB3C

【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: it is good to PD before 2010. But it may hurt a lot later......we may not
: get our own 2800 hehe
: that is my first thought.

f***i
发帖数: 185
16
it depends on the I:C ratio
the ratio looks fine based on 2008/2009 perm data
but not seem so optimistic for later years

【在 d*******p 的大作中提到】
: 中印捆绑?......
: 中印加起来拿85%+SO和14%+SO一样吗?
: 有些人觉得老印拿的好处比老中多,所以宁愿自己不要好处也不能让老印拿好处?这要
: 什么环境才能教出这样的变态?

S*******r
发帖数: 11017
17
现在是ROW随时申请 随时受理
中印人民虽然早排上队了
只要有ROW申请出现
就得让人家插队
经济不好的话还行
还能指望ROW能剩下SO些
经济好的话ROW没有SO富余
中印就每年各自2803个名额
3012如果成法
对不起
ROW请你排队
已经排在队里的中印人民
按照队伍先后开始吃每年4万个名额
f***i
发帖数: 185
18
i think 3012 will benefit EB2C as long as the percentage of EB2C > 7%
which is very likely.
However, for EB3C, there might not be beneficial, because it seems that
EB3C percentage <7%

【在 S*******r 的大作中提到】
: 现在是ROW随时申请 随时受理
: 中印人民虽然早排上队了
: 只要有ROW申请出现
: 就得让人家插队
: 经济不好的话还行
: 还能指望ROW能剩下SO些
: 经济好的话ROW没有SO富余
: 中印就每年各自2803个名额
: 3012如果成法
: 对不起

S*******r
发帖数: 11017
19
大家都是至少MASTER以上学历的
这点判断力总该有吧?
没有3012
EB2/3C新PD还是得跟EB2/3I捆绑
争夺每年ROW EB2剩下的名额
这得取决于人ROW需要多少
我们只能拿人家不需要的富余部分
这两年经济不好
ROW也没什么人 所以中印一块儿连续两年有2-3万SO
有了3012
就没什么C,I,ROW的区别了
大家看排队顺序吃名额
EB2C不必看ROW吃多少了
不管经济形势怎么样 ROW要吃多少了
数量众多的EB2/3I是业已存在的
什么法案都无法改变
我们要么选择和他们争一个小馅饼
要么选择联合他们一起去争一个大的多的馅饼
2009年底开始经济回暖
ROW人数又增多
今后ROW只会越来越多
2009年那么少的PERM数量不会再重现了
不可能指望每年都有3万SOFAD给中印了
还不如一起去抢每年4万的大馅饼

【在 f***i 的大作中提到】
: I cautiously agree
: i think it will benefit me, a EB2C2009
: but not sure for later EB2C and EB3C

S*******r
发帖数: 11017
20
Yes EB3C is less than 7%.
But don't forget EB3 ROW is also backlogged. No matter how small the EB3C
number is, its cutoff date cannot overtake the one of EB3 ROW.

【在 f***i 的大作中提到】
: i think 3012 will benefit EB2C as long as the percentage of EB2C > 7%
: which is very likely.
: However, for EB3C, there might not be beneficial, because it seems that
: EB3C percentage <7%

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p***e
发帖数: 29053
21
like what happen in 2007........
the problem is that we can't predict how many Eb2I a.....
now EB2I vs EB2C is 10:1 after 2007
if EB2 world (all other except china) vs EB2C ratio is 14.3:1, we can't
reach 2800 per year. It may happen !!!
so this bill is good to PD before 2010, but after year 2010, god knows
what happen.........

【在 f***i 的大作中提到】
: I cautiously agree
: i think it will benefit me, a EB2C2009
: but not sure for later EB2C and EB3C

f***i
发帖数: 185
22
i think you are right for EB2 but might not for EB3
EB3I might deprive more seats from EB3C than EB3ROW

【在 S*******r 的大作中提到】
: 大家都是至少MASTER以上学历的
: 这点判断力总该有吧?
: 没有3012
: EB2/3C新PD还是得跟EB2/3I捆绑
: 争夺每年ROW EB2剩下的名额
: 这得取决于人ROW需要多少
: 我们只能拿人家不需要的富余部分
: 这两年经济不好
: ROW也没什么人 所以中印一块儿连续两年有2-3万SO
: 有了3012

z**x
发帖数: 226
23
That's the point! EB2C may get less than 7% after 10year.

【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: like what happen in 2007........
: the problem is that we can't predict how many Eb2I a.....
: now EB2I vs EB2C is 10:1 after 2007
: if EB2 world (all other except china) vs EB2C ratio is 14.3:1, we can't
: reach 2800 per year. It may happen !!!
: so this bill is good to PD before 2010, but after year 2010, god knows
: what happen.........

a***x
发帖数: 26368
24
没看出对俺有什么好的

【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: it is good to PD before 2010. But it may hurt a lot later......we may not
: get our own 2800 hehe
: that is my first thought.

s******t
发帖数: 926
25
American people same thing.
Cut tax --> Rich people got them --> No support on tax cut from poor.

【在 d*******p 的大作中提到】
: 中印捆绑?......
: 中印加起来拿85%+SO和14%+SO一样吗?
: 有些人觉得老印拿的好处比老中多,所以宁愿自己不要好处也不能让老印拿好处?这要
: 什么环境才能教出这样的变态?

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