n**e
发帖数: 180 | 1 trackitt消息
Democrats have put HR 3012 under Rule XIV
Senate Floor Wrap up Saturday 17, 2011:
http://democrats.senate.gov/2011/12/17/senate-floor-wrap-up-for
Rule XIV Process link:
www.llsdc.org/attachments/wysiwyg/544/CRS-RS22299.pdf
"Some provisions of Senate Rule XIV and some unanimous consent requests,
however, allow the Senate to completely or partially bypass a measure’s
potential consideration by a Senate committee."
如果真的是民主党某参议员提了这个，明年参议院里民主党和grassley有好戏看了。 | N*******r
发帖数: 1098 | | d*********y
发帖数: 748 | 3 我个人认为这是民主党为了明年的大选在抢合法移民和high-tech的票。
本来这个bill是共和党为明年大选来吸引合法移民和高科技企业而提出的。但被
grassley这个家伙给搅黄了。民主党乘机接过这个bill，把合法移民的票源抢过来。
共和党向来是支持high-skill 合法移民的，比如共和党总统大选辩论就能看出来。但
grassley为了一己私利，至本党利益不顾，向所有合法和非法移民开战。Oh Law的网站
上也印证了我以前说过的话，他的amendment不光民主党，连共和党也反对。我现在不
懂的是，一个跟本党过不去的人物，为啥会被本党委以重任，出任司法委员会的
ranking member?
【在 n**e 的大作中提到】
: trackitt消息
: Democrats have put HR 3012 under Rule XIV
: Senate Floor Wrap up Saturday 17, 2011:
: http://democrats.senate.gov/2011/12/17/senate-floor-wrap-up-for
: Rule XIV Process link:
: www.llsdc.org/attachments/wysiwyg/544/CRS-RS22299.pdf
: "Some provisions of Senate Rule XIV and some unanimous consent requests,
: however, allow the Senate to completely or partially bypass a measure’s
: potential consideration by a Senate committee."
: 如果真的是民主党某参议员提了这个，明年参议院里民主党和grassley有好戏看了。
| N*******r
发帖数: 1098 | 4 This is the best way to avoid Grassley's objection to this bill...
As this rule avoild Senate Judiciary Commitee, which Grassley is Ranking
member, this means its directly placed under Senate Calendar. Once it's
scheduled, it will be voted and as Democrats are showing this intent (who
are majority) in senate and Republicans are in favor of this bill (as seen
in House)..nobody can stop HR 3012 now... | N*******r
发帖数: 1098 | 5 Republicans introduced this bill in House, and Democrats push it pass in
Senate. It is a bipartian bill now. Only very few opposite it from both
parties. | t**********r
发帖数: 182 | 6 this means its directly placed under Senate Calendar -
Probably not correct. Still needs some procedures to go... | d*********y
发帖数: 748 | 7 我也觉的如果HR 3012直接在senate floor投票的话，过的可能性很大。因为连
NumbersUSA这个反移民的大本营都不反对这个bill. Tea Party是支持这个bill的。
【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】
: This is the best way to avoid Grassley's objection to this bill...
: As this rule avoild Senate Judiciary Commitee, which Grassley is Ranking
: member, this means its directly placed under Senate Calendar. Once it's
: scheduled, it will be voted and as Democrats are showing this intent (who
: are majority) in senate and Republicans are in favor of this bill (as seen
: in House)..nobody can stop HR 3012 now...
| n**e
发帖数: 180 | 8 好像是有一些步骤要走。至少民主党摆出了个姿态，让grassley一人搅黄一个
bipartisan的bill，听起来也确实可笑了点。
【在 t**********r 的大作中提到】
: this means its directly placed under Senate Calendar -
: Probably not correct. Still needs some procedures to go...
| n***s
发帖数: 10056 | 9 filibuster?
【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】
: This is the best way to avoid Grassley's objection to this bill...
: As this rule avoild Senate Judiciary Commitee, which Grassley is Ranking
: member, this means its directly placed under Senate Calendar. Once it's
: scheduled, it will be voted and as Democrats are showing this intent (who
: are majority) in senate and Republicans are in favor of this bill (as seen
: in House)..nobody can stop HR 3012 now...
| N*******r
发帖数: 1098 | 10 24 hrs talking by this 78 yrs old man.
【在 n***s 的大作中提到】
: filibuster?
| | | b*****u
发帖数: 1339 | 11 明年再说吧。
到时候不知道又有什么变数了。
【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】
: 24 hrs talking by this 78 yrs old man.
| n***s
发帖数: 10056 | 12 So he can do early retirement, LOL.
【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】
: 24 hrs talking by this 78 yrs old man.
| h*****n
发帖数: 924 | 13 人年纪大了就ego过度膨胀，然后犯糊涂，两者综合起来就是乱来，晚节不保。政治家老
而不休的，往往这个下场。
During the Democratic primary campaign, Bob Krause, a former state
legislator, Army veteran and transportation official, said that Grassley's
more than half-century in public office is too long. "As a good farmer, Sen.
Grassley must recognize that 51 years, or 58 years at the end of his term,
is a long time to go without rotating crops,"
老东西过去没那么大的ego，也没那么糊涂，所以上了位。
【在 d*********y 的大作中提到】
: 我个人认为这是民主党为了明年的大选在抢合法移民和high-tech的票。
: 本来这个bill是共和党为明年大选来吸引合法移民和高科技企业而提出的。但被
: grassley这个家伙给搅黄了。民主党乘机接过这个bill，把合法移民的票源抢过来。
: 共和党向来是支持high-skill 合法移民的，比如共和党总统大选辩论就能看出来。但
: grassley为了一己私利，至本党利益不顾，向所有合法和非法移民开战。Oh Law的网站
: 上也印证了我以前说过的话，他的amendment不光民主党，连共和党也反对。我现在不
: 懂的是，一个跟本党过不去的人物，为啥会被本党委以重任，出任司法委员会的
: ranking member?
| n**e
发帖数: 180 | 14 Oh law today's report
12/18/2011: H.R. 3012 Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar
* Yesterday, in the Senate, H.R.3012, Fairness for High-Skilled
Immigrants Act of 2011, was read the first time on the floor and placed on
Senate Legislative Calendar under Read the First Time. It will be
interesting to watch how and when this bill will sail through. A bill must
be read second time and if motion to proceed and motion to cloture are
presented, we will learn whether there will be filibuster by Sen. Grassley.
* As a side note, there was a small political development in the State
of Utah. Its Senior Senator Orrin Hatch will have to rerun for his seat and
there was educated rumor that the rising star House Representative Chaffetz,
the sponsor of H.R. 3012, would challenge his Senate seat in the election,
but yesterday there was report that Rep. Chaffetz had decided that he would
not challenge Sen. Hatch's seat in the coming election and this news was
taken as a huge relief for Senator Hatch's political career. One may
speculate what might have gone on behind the scene between Sen. Hatch and
Rep. Chaffetz relating to the H.R. 3012 which had been on hold in the Senate
. Sen. Hatch is one of the longest Senior Senators in the U.S. Senate, and
should he lend his hands on this bill, it would help tremendously to crack
the barrier. Please stay tuned to this website for the interesting
development of this legislation. This reporter is very interested in the
move of Sen. Grassley and the sponsors of S. 1983 (numerical limit
elimination & Irish visa bill), Sen. Chuck Schumer, Sen. Dick Durbin, and
Sen. Patrick Leahy - all heavy weights in the Senate. Very exciting!
* As for the timing, the Senate has reaached unanimous-consent agreement
yesterday that when the Senate completes its business on 12/17/2011, it
adjourn and convene for pro forma sessions only with no business conducted
on the following dates and times and that following each pro forma session,
the Senate adjourn until the following pro forma session: Tuesday, December
20, 2011 at 11 a.m., Friday, December 23, 2011 at 9:30 a.m., Tuesday,
December 27, 2011 at 12 p.m., Friday, December 30, 2011 at 11 a.m.; and that
the 2nd session of the 112th Congress convene on Tuesday, January 3, 2012
at 12 p.m., for a pro forma session only with no business conducted D1384and
that following the pro forma session, the Senate adjourn and convene for
pro forma sessions only with no business conducted on the following dates
and times and that following each pro forma session, the Senate adjourn
until the following pro forma session: Friday, January 6, 2012 at 11 a.m.,
Tuesday, January 10, 2012 at 11 a.m., Friday, January 13, 2012 at 12 p.m.,
Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 10:15 a.m., Friday, January 20, 2012 at 2 p.m.;
and that the Senate adjourn on Friday, January 20, 2012 until 2 p.m. on
Monday, January 23, 2012. The House is also adjourned for a constituent work
period. During this period, members of the House return to their districts
to meet with constituents. House will also have in pro forma session, but no
legislative actions will take place until next year.
* It thus appears the readers may be able to hold their long breathe for
a while to hear exiciting news, if any. Believe me, there will be a lot of
things going on during the recess!! In this regards, H.R. 3012 is not quite
dead yet.
* HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU, DISTINGUISHED LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MEMBERS OF
THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE!!! | m****u
发帖数: 3915 | 15 人grassley为老中利益拼命，你们还不感恩，还骂人家老糊涂 | c********r
发帖数: 649 | 16 grassley 要把h1搞得像perm一样，感恩尼玛
【在 m****u 的大作中提到】
: 人grassley为老中利益拼命，你们还不感恩，还骂人家老糊涂
| B*****g
发帖数: 34098 | 17 这个还真难说是好是坏
【在 c********r 的大作中提到】
: grassley 要把h1搞得像perm一样，感恩尼玛
| s*****c
发帖数: 753 | 18
The ranking system has nothing to do with the party. Those who has tenure
in senate longer has higher rank, even though he may be 100 years old and
dumb.
【在 d*********y 的大作中提到】
: 我也觉的如果HR 3012直接在senate floor投票的话，过的可能性很大。因为连
: NumbersUSA这个反移民的大本营都不反对这个bill. Tea Party是支持这个bill的。
| r*******8
发帖数: 449 | 19 这个bill3012是向所有非中印合法移民开战吧?
【在 d*********y 的大作中提到】
: 我个人认为这是民主党为了明年的大选在抢合法移民和high-tech的票。
: 本来这个bill是共和党为明年大选来吸引合法移民和高科技企业而提出的。但被
: grassley这个家伙给搅黄了。民主党乘机接过这个bill，把合法移民的票源抢过来。
: 共和党向来是支持high-skill 合法移民的，比如共和党总统大选辩论就能看出来。但
: grassley为了一己私利，至本党利益不顾，向所有合法和非法移民开战。Oh Law的网站
: 上也印证了我以前说过的话，他的amendment不光民主党，连共和党也反对。我现在不
: 懂的是，一个跟本党过不去的人物，为啥会被本党委以重任，出任司法委员会的
: ranking member?
| I****8
发帖数: 988 | 20 对啊，如果没有老印那几万/年的数量，老中吃spill over早current了。
【在 B*****g 的大作中提到】
: 这个还真难说是好是坏
| D******D
发帖数: 1159 | 21 偶旁边滴同事，波兰滴，一年前就NIW拿到绿卡了，偶为了eb1a，拼到现在才拿到140，
如果这法案批了，所有非中印EB23都会突然目瞪口呆。。。。。。 | g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 22 60% doesn't sound a demanding number for a bipartison bill.
【在 n***s 的大作中提到】
: filibuster?
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