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Helsinki (跑步然后蛋腚地桑拿) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:41:31 2012, 美东) 提到:
As this reporter speculated earlier this morning, it appears that the
negotiation among the three key Senators, Schumer, Grassley, and Brown has
been making some in-road to comprise to "probably" to Schumer bill that
combines H.R. 3012 and Irish E-3 visa bill. Senator Schumer earlier
announced that he was willing to give up illegal Irish relief porttion of
his bill and keep just legal Irish E-3 visa provision in his bill. That
narrow down to a small difference between Sen. Brown bill and Sen. Schumer
bill involving H.R. 3012. Brown bill did not include H.R. 3012. However, Sen
. Brown afterwards conceded that he was willing to accept H.R. 3012 as part
of the compromise. There was also one report earlier that Sen. Grassley was
focusing on the tightening of the eligibility of Irish E-3 visa applicants
to advanced level of professionals. Inasmuch as Sen. Grassley would drop his
earlier position to add H-1B and L-1 restriction provisions to the bill,
there is indeed some chance that the final product of the bi-partisan tri-
party compromise can lead to the passage of the bill in the Senate. Please
pay attention to the "dynamics" of the on-going compromise in the
negotiation. We are trying to connect from dot to dot to assess the
development. Please stay tuned to this website for the development of this
news.
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mubaop (慕宝篷) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:45:50 2012, 美东) 提到:
格老转而对付消防队啦？
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Beijing (我是猪--听说猪是被祝福的) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:47:03 2012, 美东) 提到:
bless, baozi
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uniwander (是的，你们都要结束的) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:47:44 2012, 美东) 提到:
不知道还要多久才知道结果如何。。。
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billniu (billniu) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:48:45 2012, 美东) 提到:
阁老说了，要激烈讨论两年的。
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icuris (向北再向北) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:48:45 2012, 美东) 提到:
昨天还收到我们州的参议员关于3012的信，当然都是些没营养的官话。
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yqwen (小少爷) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:51:28 2012, 美东) 提到:
你误读了，他的原意是指3012是2，3年才会出现的immigration bill
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yqwen (小少爷) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:52:23 2012, 美东) 提到:
thanks for sharing, good job as always!
this is definitely good news for many people.
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Helsinki (跑步然后蛋腚地桑拿) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:52:40 2012, 美东) 提到:
我们收了大家的钱，仍然在工作。我们仍然在找人去骚扰格老。
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yqwen (小少爷) 于 (Thu Mar 22 12:55:43 2012, 美东) 提到:
O也在等3012的消息来决定VB呢
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feishi (feishi) 于 (Thu Mar 22 13:16:49 2012, 美东) 提到:
把钱放你那里真放心，尽管3012希望还很渺茫，可没有一个捐款者提出异议。
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Helsinki (跑步然后蛋腚地桑拿) 于 (Thu Mar 22 13:24:29 2012, 美东) 提到:
钱在NIU的会计和财务那里，我要用还得通过NIU理事会决议，直接由财务付给lobbyist
和其他人员。
我们雇的lobbyist昨天刚刚跟Grassley谈过H.R.3012这个话题，下面几天将跟Grassley的幕僚互动。下面是几句回信摘要：
As you've seen, the issue is whether Senators will allow for a "single issue" bill to pass without attacking their own "single issue" to it. You've seen this with Brown attaching his Irish bill to our bill. Grassley has his own list of "single issues
istorically, the problem is that these "single issue" efforts fail because eventually the bill goes from "single issue" to "comprehensive" pr someone will try to attach something that the others can't support.
Unfortunately comprehensive immigration reform will not pass, so we need to see what can be done to keep this bill "single issue."
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sillycat (^_^) 于 (Thu Mar 22 13:38:53 2012, 美东) 提到:
Yeah, push 3012, if EBROW is limited by this move, it is super good news for
all PDs, 08-12FY.
Beyond FY12, it depends on EB-I moves.
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yahoodeng (yahoo) 于 (Thu Mar 22 13:39:17 2012, 美东) 提到:
Exciting update after a series of disappointing VB news!
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Helsinki (跑步然后蛋腚地桑拿) 于 (Thu Mar 22 13:46:12 2012, 美东) 提到:
呵呵，老邓，点到为止，咱们继续低调一点，否则又要惹出很多无聊的辩论来了。
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KRISWANG (KRIS) 于 (Thu Mar 22 13:55:24 2012, 美东) 提到:
不要怕，大家还是很需要希望的。
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pulus (Pulus) 于 (Thu Mar 22 14:08:40 2012, 美东) 提到:
看贴不够仔细。
OH LAW这帖引用的Arizona新闻里只有一句跟Irish bill（无3012）进展有关，还是一
句模糊不清的话：
senators of both parties are rallying behind legislation that would allow 10
,500 Irish nationals to come to the U.S. to work each year.
其余篇幅全是介绍法案的背景知识。
OH LAW从这么一篇毫无实质内容的新闻引申出了一大段议论，显然是为了吸引traffic
。另外，OH LAW还引用了格老前一段所提出的E3 bill amendment，认为格老会据此放
3012一马。但显然那是格老针对Irish bill的，并不等于放弃了H1b reform和hold
3012，因为昨天格老还写了一封公开信痛诉H1B abuse对美国失业造成的影响:
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/march-21-2012/sen-grassley-reform-us
-visa-system-needed-give-american-graduates-jobs.html
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alpha99 (pigflying) 于 (Thu Mar 22 14:13:38 2012, 美东) 提到:
support!
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cloverall (flyer) 于 (Thu Mar 22 14:16:02 2012, 美东) 提到:
Thanks for the work Helsinki.
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Helsinki (跑步然后蛋腚地桑拿) 于 (Thu Mar 22 14:17:36 2012, 美东) 提到:
赞仔细!
格老幕僚（女）回信给爱荷华州的选民（帮助我们的朋友）时说她天天在忙H.R.3012.
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bolidukou (mist) 于 (Thu Mar 22 14:30:32 2012, 美东) 提到:
请问如何捐款！！！！
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rocnex (Zhu_Hua_Hua) 于 (Thu Mar 22 14:31:18 2012, 美东) 提到:
你看了arizona新闻的全文吗？里面关于Irish bill 和3012的内容远不止一句话。
Brown’s spokesman says the senator cares about all immigrants and supports
a bipartisan House-passed bill that would primarily benefit non-European
immigrants facing long waits to come to the U.S. to work in high-skilled
jobs or reunite with family members who are U.S. citizens.
That bill, sponsored by Republican Reps. Lamar Smith of Texas and Jason
Chaffetz of Utah, would tweak the U.S. visa system to allow more highly
skilled immigrants from India and China to become legal permanent residents.
The legislation would eliminate caps on the number of employment-based
visas that are available annually to each country. The bill also would more
than double the family-reunification visas available for Mexicans and
Filipinos, the two groups facing the longest backlogs for that type of visa.
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pulus (Pulus) 于 (Thu Mar 22 14:48:45 2012, 美东) 提到:
我不说了么，除了法案进展的那一句模糊不清的话，其余全是背景介绍。你这段除了背
景介绍还有啥？
supports
residents.
more
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Beijing (我是猪--听说猪是被祝福的) 于 (Thu Mar 22 14:59:59 2012, 美东) 提到:
bless them all
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ardorbird (独自徘徊在天堂与地狱之间) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:05:40 2012, 美东) 提到:
和你投入的时间精力相比，那点钱真的不算什么，真的要感谢你把大家组织起来！
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Helsinki (跑步然后蛋腚地桑拿) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:07:06 2012, 美东) 提到:
你别急bless她，她不是个好东西，当年阻击H.R.3012有她一份。现在她只是迫于压力
在与Brown互动，寻求折衷。
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pulus (Pulus) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:13:07 2012, 美东) 提到:
现在Harry Reid又变成了一个障碍。他明确表示不支持any immigration bill without
DREAM act。没有他bill在senate是上不了floor的。但如果DREAM跟任何bill绑在一起
，整个bill都没戏。
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whatifnot (Contour) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:18:03 2012, 美东) 提到:
Don't take Reid words too seriously.
He has no core like G does.
without
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billniu (billniu) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:25:58 2012, 美东) 提到:
你不take harry Reid的话seriously,你去take 一个不知道能不能连任的初出茅庐的
brown的话seriously?????
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billniu (billniu) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:28:27 2012, 美东) 提到:
Reid的话代表了后面跟西班牙裔的所有相关议员的，越接近大选越对
without
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goodman (goodman) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:34:03 2012, 美东) 提到:
本来不是3012本身的错，要各方满意实在难。
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dellgateway (dellgateway) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:34:13 2012, 美东) 提到:
这个你确实不用太在意Harry Reid的话，因为就在昨天Durbin发表公开信要求senate通
过Irish E3 bill and HR 3012.他的链接如下：
http://durbin.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/statementscommentary?
BTW, Durbin is assistant majority leader.他肯定是和Harry Reid保持一致的。
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pulus (Pulus) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:38:18 2012, 美东) 提到:
Grassley还是Rep党得Ranking Member呢，你看他跟谁保持一致了？
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whatifnot (Contour) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:42:15 2012, 美东) 提到:
The moment Reid picked to say his words is close to a seemingly dead 3012+E3
bill. So, he is obviously a dancer, like Romney.
If political landscape changes next week, Reid would like wash his mouth
again...Grassley will not do that in an easy way.
Brown is just a joke...nobody thinks of him anyway.
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dellgateway (dellgateway) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:45:53 2012, 美东) 提到:
我在猜G老贼是不是在采用战国时代秦国对付六国逐个击破的战术。一方面先稳住印度
和墨西哥人，声称不再反对HR 3012,另一方先找Irish单挑，争取让Irish先在senate过
堂，以达到早日干掉的目的。然后回身对付HR3012。
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Helsinki (跑步然后蛋腚地桑拿) 于 (Thu Mar 22 15:54:00 2012, 美东) 提到:
如果老贼有此智慧，3012则必死无疑。
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ardorbird (独自徘徊在天堂与地狱之间) 于 (Thu Mar 22 16:00:30 2012, 美东) 提到:
这个可能不是没有的。
但是换个角度看，这个3012也是他有生之年唯一一次机会能推行H1B reform，
他应该也不会希望3012死的这么快。
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dellgateway (dellgateway) 于 (Thu Mar 22 16:04:04 2012, 美东) 提到:
我再补充一下是哪六国吧：
HR3012阵营： 印度人，墨西哥人， 中国人，和菲律宾人
Irish E3 bill:爱尔兰人
Israel E2 bill:以色列人
现在G老贼最怕的是和Israel人的E2 bill绑在一起过senate. 犹太人以前就给G老贼捐
过钱，G老贼无法拒绝Israel人的E2 bill。所以要赶紧先干掉Irish,稳住其他四国，让
四国断了与以色列人结盟的念头。
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yahoodeng (yahoo) 于 (Thu Mar 22 16:06:36 2012, 美东) 提到:
http://niunational.org/donate.html
请注明"3012专用"
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reflash78 (haha) 于 (Thu Mar 22 16:12:49 2012, 美东) 提到:
瞎说.israel的bill以前反对来自house.现在以色利人怕自己被人绑定在3012上,他们的
bill单独过senate没什么悬念.
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reflash78 (haha) 于 (Thu Mar 22 16:14:47 2012, 美东) 提到:
3012阵营居然有菲律宾?你去菲律宾网站看看去,他们对3012什么态度.
墨墨eb也是反对的.
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gmail (Gmail is Nothing --Lanxiang/SJTU) 于 (Thu Mar 22 16:19:16 2012, 美东) 提到:
以色列的这个bill过senate太简单了。
整个bill就是一句话而已。从来没有见过这么短的bill。
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dellgateway (dellgateway) 于 (Thu Mar 22 16:25:20 2012, 美东) 提到:
HR3012的家庭移民部份。
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shsd (shsd) 于 (Thu Mar 22 16:26:59 2012, 美东) 提到:
政治，这就是黑暗的政治。现在大家都在玩文字游戏来拉选票。这个3012看来如果叫
2012还有可能今年通过，谁让它是3012呢？还得等100年？
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Beijing (我是猪--听说猪是被祝福的) 于 (Thu Mar 22 16:28:50 2012, 美东) 提到:
1000年, p
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shsd (shsd) 于 (Thu Mar 22 16:31:29 2012, 美东) 提到:
数学怎么这么差尼，对是千年等一回。
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Helsinki (跑步然后蛋腚地桑拿) 于 (Fri Mar 23 09:44:51 2012, 美东) 提到:
以色列人在美国的势力真是少而精啊，都集中在官商上层。
话题回到3012，下面这个链接中有这么一段话：
http://www.nixonpeabody.com/linked_media/publications/Immigrati
While elimination of this restriction would allow nationals of countries
such as India and China, from which the demand for
immigrant visas is extremely high, to consume almost the entire annual
allotment of immigrant visas for years to come, it is seen by many as more
fair in that all prospective immigrants, regardless of
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