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发帖数: 331 | 1 http://www.ilw.com/immigrationdaily/digest/2012,0626.shtm
Comment: Grassley Makes Deal With Schumer - In news potentially bigger in
impact than Mr. Obama's momentous announcement of Deferred Action for
DREAMers, Sen. Grassley, Republican of Iowa (Ranking Member of the Judiciary
committee), has after many years of holding up employment immigration
matters in the Senate, finally made a deal with Sen. Schumer, Democrat of
New York (Chairman of the Immigration Sub-committee). The compromise
mandates periodic DOL audits for H1B-dependent employers with over 100
employees, and gives DOL sweeping new powers over all employers in H1B
matters. In return, the per-country limits are swept-aside, with immediate
positive benefits to Indian and Chinese nationals waiting for employment
immigration quotas for many years. For the original amendment by Mr.
Grassley, which had many provisions affecting L visas, which have been
dropped from the compromise, see here. For the compromise language on H
visas see here (this document, for AILA members only, is an amendment to the
amendment, so it has the proposed sweeping DOL powers, but not the per-
country cap elimination language).
The political significance of this compromise is considerable: Mr. Grassley
and Mr. Schumer have often led their parties on immigration matters in the
Senate, especially in this, the 112th Congress. Unsurprisingly, they have
always disagreed, part and parcel of the grid-lock that has stymied action
on immigration for several Congresses now. And that is why this compromise
is significant. We believe this compromise presages many more to come, in
this Congress and the next, especially on employment-immigration matters.
Bits and pieces of CIR will likely come into effect, partly through the
executive branch and partly through the legislative branch. Given the
compromise between these antagonists, it would be a fair guess that votes
exist on the Senate floor for passage, perhaps even expeditiously by
unanimous consent. However, even should the Senate adopt H.R. 3012, the
underlying bill, together with the compromise amendment by voice vote, it
will have to return to the House, where the votes for passage are likely
good.
The moving force behind the underlying bill, is a group of those affected by
the enormous backlogs - a group of primarily Indian beneficiaries,
Immigration Voice (this was the group that was the prime mover behind
Visagate of several summers ago, when all Employment-based categories were
temporarily made "current"). In their email broadcast to the world this
morning advocating for H.R. 3012, as amended by the compromise, Immigration
Voice attacks the immigration bar:
Unfortunately, some immigration lawyers and their advocacy groups in DC
are against this amendment. We believe that this fringe group has always
advocated a system where immigrants are taken advantage of. Immigration
Lawyers have chosen to be on the wrong side of history. They want to protect
companies that are abusing the system. This set of Immigration lawyers want
to side with companies that are under-cutting US workers and committing
fraud. It's time for us to standup to speak for ourselves and tell everyone
that immigration lawyers don't represent immigrants. When it comes to
advocacy, immigration lawyers and their groups only represent their own
special interest to design the system to keep more people in limbo for
longer so that they can pocket more money through renewals and extension of
applications for visas and work-permits while immigrants wait forever in
their green card process. A large percentage of these immigration lawyers
have a vested interest in keeping the immigration process slow and confusing
. They will oppose streamlining or simplifying the process that would help
employers and employees. Housing market is not about realtors; housing
market is about living the American Dream and home ownership. Likewise, the
purpose of immigration system is not to help immigration lawyers line their
pockets with more cash. Immigration system is about America, US Employers
and immigrants. It's time for us to raise our voice and say it loud, that
immigration lawyers or their group doesn't represent Immigrants.
We don't know what the Immigration Voice folks have been smoking, but
whatever it is, it must be rather strong. H. R. 3012, as amended, would lead
to increased business for the immigration bar, since the companies that DOL
would target would need the assistance of the bar in complying with DOL's
new requirements under DOL's new sweeping powers, so the bar cannot
reasonably be viewed as having a self-serving reason were it to oppose this
bill. However, to the extent that AILA has gradually morphed from being a
member association into a publishing powerhouse (2/3rd of AILA's revenues
come from publishing activities, not member dues), AILA has naturally
distanced itself from immigrants, evidenced by the sentiment in the
statement from Immigration Voice above.
To the best of our understanding, the immigration bar is divided in its view
on H.R. 3012 together with the Grassley compromise. There is a faction
supporting the bill since the bill would eliminate per-country quotas, the
last remaining vestige of the racism of the National Origin quotas. There is
another faction opposing the bill since granting DOL sweeping powers in
immigration has never proven good, historically. In contrast to this
disagreement, Immigration Daily emphasizes the political significance of the
Grassley-Schumer compromise, in the belief that many immigration benefits
locked up for years in grid-lock will now begin to flow. Stay tuned to
Immigration Daily for the latest on Capitol Hill immigration action. | n**e
发帖数: 180 | 2 IV为什么要攻击律师界？IV做事一般很有策略，为什么这次火气那么大，谁来讲讲。 | t*****e
发帖数: 666 | 3 消息来源靠谱嘛？ 如果是真的，那确实是个利好消息 | g*****n
发帖数: 2588 | 4 The compromise mandates periodic DOL audits for H1B-dependent employers with
over 100 employees, and gives DOL sweeping new powers over all employers in
H1B matters. In return, the per-country limits are swept-aside, with
immediate positive benefits to Indian and Chinese nationals waiting for
employment immigration quotas for many years.
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这个compromise的两项内容都对中国很有利 | t***j
发帖数: 2620 | | a***g
发帖数: 2402 | 6 那印度人岂不成了本世纪以来最大的冤大头了？不要那么贪心，经过格老的这一修改已
经比原来的3012对中国人有利多了
【在 t***j 的大作中提到】
: 要是加个15%国家cap就是完美了，哈哈
| n**e
发帖数: 180 | 7 从冠冕堂皇的角度看，3012陡然提高了档次，即是fairness，又是anti-fraud。 | a***g
发帖数: 2402 | 8 其实从eb3c的角度反对原来的3012的人也不是完全没有道理，但目前这个版本看来对中
国的2，3类都是利大于弊。一旦对icc的anti-fraud被认真执行，加上废除了偿还六四
血卡的规定，eb3c应该也能受益匪浅
【在 n**e 的大作中提到】
: 从冠冕堂皇的角度看，3012陡然提高了档次，即是fairness，又是anti-fraud。
| r*******8
发帖数: 449 | 9 本来六四学卡是对中国的,没有国家限制,只有top2和row的话,六四绿卡无从谈起.
【在 a***g 的大作中提到】
: 其实从eb3c的角度反对原来的3012的人也不是完全没有道理，但目前这个版本看来对中
: 国的2，3类都是利大于弊。一旦对icc的anti-fraud被认真执行，加上废除了偿还六四
: 血卡的规定，eb3c应该也能受益匪浅
| t***j
发帖数: 2620 | 10 Eb3c距离row现在不过10个月，半年到一年内赶上row是可期的。
如果3012过了，大概不到半年就赶上row了，然后和row龟动。
所以3012有利的就是row 前的eb3c,受害最大的是07 08的eb3c.
至于long term, 老中eb3恐怕会比现在多多了。
Eb2c支持无可厚非，但是07 08eb3c利益是极大受害，如果你在那个位置上你就会强力
反对了。
[发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com]
【在 a***g 的大作中提到】
: 其实从eb3c的角度反对原来的3012的人也不是完全没有道理，但目前这个版本看来对中
: 国的2，3类都是利大于弊。一旦对icc的anti-fraud被认真执行，加上废除了偿还六四
: 血卡的规定，eb3c应该也能受益匪浅
| | | w*******g
发帖数: 205 | 11 ......
【在 t***j 的大作中提到】
: Eb3c距离row现在不过10个月，半年到一年内赶上row是可期的。
: 如果3012过了，大概不到半年就赶上row了，然后和row龟动。
: 所以3012有利的就是row 前的eb3c,受害最大的是07 08的eb3c.
: 至于long term, 老中eb3恐怕会比现在多多了。
: Eb2c支持无可厚非，但是07 08eb3c利益是极大受害，如果你在那个位置上你就会强力
: 反对了。
:
: [发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com]
| l***g
发帖数: 1035 | 12 only way for eb3 is to port to eb2 after 5 yrs without fundamental change in
the immigration system | S*******r
发帖数: 11017 | 13 如果能够用格老加塞的条款大力打击人口贩子ICC
实在是大快人心的好事一件!
大家对于3012的争执
本质原因不是啥鸟毛中国人的劣根性
而是老印太多!造假的老印太多!
如果能够用新3012从根子上扼杀老印
以后老中之间的争执会少很多 | s**u
发帖数: 247 | 14 这个帖子是so far最靠谱的。
力反对了。
【在 t***j 的大作中提到】
: Eb3c距离row现在不过10个月，半年到一年内赶上row是可期的。
: 如果3012过了，大概不到半年就赶上row了，然后和row龟动。
: 所以3012有利的就是row 前的eb3c,受害最大的是07 08的eb3c.
: 至于long term, 老中eb3恐怕会比现在多多了。
: Eb2c支持无可厚非，但是07 08eb3c利益是极大受害，如果你在那个位置上你就会强力
: 反对了。
:
: [发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com]
| a***g
发帖数: 2402 | 15 正如毛人弟弟所言，印度的造假是个重要根源，解决了这个问题对eb2,3都有利，这个
没问题吧？如今格老提出了可以打击icc的方案，这个问题有望解决到底有什么不好呢？
【在 S*******r 的大作中提到】
: 如果能够用格老加塞的条款大力打击人口贩子ICC
: 实在是大快人心的好事一件!
: 大家对于3012的争执
: 本质原因不是啥鸟毛中国人的劣根性
: 而是老印太多!造假的老印太多!
: 如果能够用新3012从根子上扼杀老印
: 以后老中之间的争执会少很多
| n**e
发帖数: 180 | | S********9
发帖数: 1121 | 17 不知道是哪些律师反对，能不能有办法知道他们是谁以及他们背后的利益团体是谁，然
后剩下的就交给格老，肯定能钓出来大鱼（肯定是100人以上且多数造假H1B员工的ICC
猥琐公司）。 |
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