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发帖数: 61690 | 1 http://thehill.com/homenews/house/279445-boehner-confidence-bip
Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is voicing confidence in the prospects for
immigration reform in the House, saying that a bipartisan group of lawmakers
“basically [has] an agreement” after more than three years of secret
talks.
The Speaker made the previously unreported comments during a question-and-
answer session on Tuesday at the Ripon Society, a Republican advocacy group.
In response to a question from the audience, Boehner said it is “time to
deal” with immigration, a top domestic priority for Obama.
“I said it the day after the election. I meant it, and we’re going to have
to deal with it,” Boehner said. “I think there’s a bipartisan group of
members that have been meeting now for three or four years. Frankly, I think
they basically have an agreement. I’ve not seen the agreement. I don’t
know all the pitfalls in it, but it’s in my view, the right group of
members.”
The Speaker did not name the participants, but he said they included “some
of the hard heads on our side, and some of the people involved on
immigration reform on their side.”
Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho), a conservative in his second term who refused
to vote for Boehner for Speaker, has emerged as an immigration point person
in the House GOP. A longtime immigration attorney, Labrador has spoken with
other House heavyweights on the issue in recent months, including the new
chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), and a
leading Democratic reform proponent, Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.)
“My theory was, if these folks could work this out, it’d be a big step in
the right direction,” Boehner said. “So I would think you’d hear a lot
more about immigration reform on the House side soon.”
The Speaker addressed the Ripon Society on Tuesday in an appearance that was
closed to the press. The group sent out a video and excerpts of his speech
on Wednesday, but Boehner's more extensive comments in the speech and a
question-and-answer session that followed have not been widely reported.
During his 20-minute appearance, Boehner offered perhaps his most expansive
outlook on the major issues that Congress is likely to confront at the
beginning of Obama’s second term, including gun control, entitlements and
tax reform.
Obama is preparing to launch a major push for comprehensive immigration
reform with a speech in Las Vegas next week. Much of the spotlight has
focused on the Senate, where a bipartisan group is reportedly close to
announcing an agreement on basic principles for an overhaul of the system.
That group now includes Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a potential presidential
contender who laid out his principles for reform in the Wall Street Journal
earlier this month.
Another potential White House aspirant, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), quickly
signed on to Rubio’s outline.
Still, Boehner’s comments to the Ripon Society signal the most optimistic
view of the climate in the House, the chamber where the last major
immigration effort died in 2006. Since then, the House Republican conference
has grown even more conservative, and Boehner said as recently as a year
ago that action was unlikely in the short-term.
Boehner spokesman Michael Steel said that while discussion have taken place,
legislation is not ready to go.
“Informal groups of members constantly meet to discuss all kinds of issues,
” he said. “At this point, there is no such legislation scheduled for a
hearing, let alone a markup, in the committees of jurisdiction in the House.”
The Speaker offered a much more critical commentary on the president’s gun-
control push, saying it was “political pandering” and “not well thought-
out.”
Boehner said the U.S. is “a fairly violent society” but that much of the
violence stems from the drug trade. Legislation to restrict guns, he said,
would have little efficacy.
“When you look at the fact that there are probably over 300 million guns in
American hands, the idea that you’re going to pass some law that means
something, I think is just not well-thought out,” Boehner told the Ripon
Society.
The Speaker criticized the gun-violence task force led by Vice President
Biden, saying that Obama should have appointed a commission to take a
broader look.
“What I would hope the president would have done, would be to assemble some
kind of blue-ribbon panel of people who would look at the source of the
problem, look at the violent nature of our society, maybe draw some
conclusions about why that is, and then from there, take some reasoned steps
, to determine what is it we can do,” Boehner said.
“You can pass some assault weapon ban or some other thing, and politically
it may sound good to some people, but all you’re doing is giving people
some false sense of security,” he continued. “You’re not really dealing
with it in an honest way.”
The Speaker also dismissed the executive orders that Obama signed, saying
they merely designed to boost enforcement of laws “that we’re supposed to
be enforcing now.”
“It was nothing new,” he said. “It was all political pandering. So I
would hope as we do hearings and try to get to the bottom of this, we would
do it in a more thoughtful and serious way.”
Boehner has said the House’s top priority in the next several months is
dealing with deficits and the debt. He announced this week that Republicans
would advance a budget that balances within 10 years. In his appearance at
the Ripon Society, he also suggested the House would offer a more specific
proposal on entitlement spending reforms after it acts on a budget
resolution in April.
“There’s a very big menu [of entitlement reform proposals]. The question
is, what are people willing to do?” Boehner said. “The House, at some
point here in the next couple months, is likely to move – after we move a
budget – likely to move a spending reform bill.”
He said he could not specifically what would be included in the bill. House
action on tax reform – a longstanding GOP priority – is more uncertain,
Boehner suggested.
He said there was “a big debate” under way about “whether we should even
go down this path.”
“I got some [members] that do, some that don’t,” he said. “Some [members
] that wonder, ‘gee what kind of tax reform can we ever get signed into law
considering the position of our president?’ And so that debate is just
beginning. It’ll probably grow, and I’m sure you’ll read all about it.”
The chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.)
, is in the group pushing for action. He has been holding tax reform
hearings for two years and said in a speech after the November election that
his committee would pass legislation to overhaul the tax code regardless of
whether Obama joins the effort.
“The Ways and Means Committee will write, act on and pass comprehensive tax
reform legislation in 2013. Let me repeat that: we intend to move a
comprehensive tax reform bill in 2013 – no matter what,” Camp said late
last year. | m***k
发帖数: 946 | 2 怎么解释S.1法案的sponsor没有共和党？
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【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/279445-boehner-confidence-bip
: Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is voicing confidence in the prospects for
: immigration reform in the House, saying that a bipartisan group of lawmakers
: “basically [has] an agreement” after more than three years of secret
: talks.
: The Speaker made the previously unreported comments during a question-and-
: answer session on Tuesday at the Ripon Society, a Republican advocacy group.
: In response to a question from the audience, Boehner said it is “time to
: deal” with immigration, a top domestic priority for Obama.
: “I said it the day after the election. I meant it, and we’re going to have
| b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 3 美国的这个立法过程是,随时可以加修正案,随时可以加sponsor.甚至随时可以用 new
bill替代.现在六个参议员正在写bill.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/27/senators-say-immigra
Top Senate Democrats and Republicans said Sunday the bipartisan legislation
on immigration reform to be announced this week will include a one-step,
comprehensive bill that includes a path to citizenship for the estimated 11
million people living illegally in the United States.
【在 m***k 的大作中提到】
: 怎么解释S.1法案的sponsor没有共和党？
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| m***k
发帖数: 946 | 4 别说现在法案没有共和党sponsor，就算之后有几个，也不能代表整个共和党的意见，
除非有大量的共和党议员表示支持。但这是不可能的，共和党必然会提出自己的CIR版
本，which 民主党不会接受，就跟上次的dream act一样。
legislation
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【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 美国的这个立法过程是,随时可以加修正案,随时可以加sponsor.甚至随时可以用 new
: bill替代.现在六个参议员正在写bill.
: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/27/senators-say-immigra
: Top Senate Democrats and Republicans said Sunday the bipartisan legislation
: on immigration reform to be announced this week will include a one-step,
: comprehensive bill that includes a path to citizenship for the estimated 11
: million people living illegally in the United States.
| u*******r
发帖数: 2855 | 5 晕。。。
当然，要是绝大部多共和党反对，那当然过不了。。。。
问题是，你怎么知道这次共和党绝大多数反对？
【在 m***k 的大作中提到】
: 别说现在法案没有共和党sponsor，就算之后有几个，也不能代表整个共和党的意见，
: 除非有大量的共和党议员表示支持。但这是不可能的，共和党必然会提出自己的CIR版
: 本，which 民主党不会接受，就跟上次的dream act一样。
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| f*******8
发帖数: 1430 | 6 我的理解是S.1也就是本届参议院的1号提案，更多的是个姿态gesture. 民主党想说CIR
是我们力主的，而不是共和党。在这种情况下，民主党未必同意任何共和党议员去联署
这个用来表达姿态的一号提案。
最终变为法律的的CIR未必是这个一号提案，甚至几乎是完全不可能是这个提案。
【在 m***k 的大作中提到】
: 怎么解释S.1法案的sponsor没有共和党？
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