c***1
发帖数: 652 | 1 House Republicans seem to be determined to break the bill:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/news/senate-immigration-bill-pipe-d
The Senate is poised to pass a comprehensive immigration bill this week.
Immigration reform proponents will cheer! Immigrant activists will cry tears
of joy! DREAMers will dream bigger dreams!
Not to be a heartbreaker, but this party probably won't last long.
The Republican-controlled House of Representatives hasn't the slightest
intention of passing the thing as a whole, says Illinois Republican Rep.
Peter Roskam, a lawmaker responsible for counting Republican votes.
Roskam, who serves as the Republican chief deputy whip, made it clear on
Thursday that House leaders do not plan to put the complete Senate bill to a
vote on the floor of the lower chamber. Even if they did, it likely wouldn'
t pass.
“The House has no capacity to move that bill in its entirety. It just won’
t happen," Roskam said during a meeting with reporters on Thursday morning.
"It is a pipe dream to think that that bill is going to go to the floor and
be voted on. The House is going to move through in a more deliberative
process.”
While Senate members have agreed to take a comprehensive approach on the
legislation—their bill would provide a pathway to legality for unauthorized
immigrants and to spend billions on border security—House lawmakers intend
to pass the bill in pieces, starting with a bill that shores up border
security and then (maybe) another measure that deals with the 11 million
people currently living in the United States illegally.
But that approach won't fly with Senate Democrats or President Barack Obama,
who say they won't accept an immigration bill that doesn't have a pathway
to legal status baked into the cake. Some might call it an impasse, a term
more commonly referred to as just another day in Washington.
Unlike their counterparts in the Senate, who have taken steps to pass the
bill quickly, the House is in no rush to act.
In one important way, the roles between the two chambers are reversed. There
is a long-standing Washington tradition in which the House passes bills and
the Senate ceremonially (and proudly) ignores them. This time, the House is
the saucer that will cool the Senate's tea. Or, to put it another way,
House Republicans want to slow-jam the immigration bill; Senate Democrats
are thinking more Busta Rhymes.
For the moment, the House seems to be enjoying the role-reversal. Some aren'
t even reading the Senate version at all.
“I have not gone through chapter and verse on the Senate bill," Roskam said
. "I don’t think I’m going to be voting on the Senate bill, so it’s not
as if I’m marinating in study.” |
m**x
发帖数: 8454 | 2 i think senate just want to add as much as pressure to house. |
w******7
发帖数: 445 | |
w******7
发帖数: 445 | 4 right. 可惜目的没达到，没凑够70票
【在 m**x 的大作中提到】
: i think senate just want to add as much as pressure to house.
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l**p
发帖数: 6080 | 5 为什么这些人不读senate版本就可以说肯定通过不了？
tears
【在 c***1 的大作中提到】
: House Republicans seem to be determined to break the bill:
: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/news/senate-immigration-bill-pipe-d
: The Senate is poised to pass a comprehensive immigration bill this week.
: Immigration reform proponents will cheer! Immigrant activists will cry tears
: of joy! DREAMers will dream bigger dreams!
: Not to be a heartbreaker, but this party probably won't last long.
: The Republican-controlled House of Representatives hasn't the slightest
: intention of passing the thing as a whole, says Illinois Republican Rep.
: Peter Roskam, a lawmaker responsible for counting Republican votes.
: Roskam, who serves as the Republican chief deputy whip, made it clear on
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h**u
发帖数: 146 | 6 党派之争，或者他们根本不想要移民，何况一次上千万。 |
w*l
发帖数: 933 | 7 Same question.
【在 l**p 的大作中提到】
: 为什么这些人不读senate版本就可以说肯定通过不了？
:
: tears
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m**x
发帖数: 8454 | 8 as long as the senate pass the CIR, the responsibility of failing CIR will
be on house only.
【在 w******7 的大作中提到】
: right. 可惜目的没达到，没凑够70票
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J*******A
发帖数: 8401 | |
w******7
发帖数: 445 | 10 这个其实说反了
过的话才可能真是丢了house
政客都不傻，对自己不利的事肯定不会干的
【在 J*******A 的大作中提到】
: 没过的话，明年GOP就丢掉house了吧？
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q********c
发帖数: 1774 | 11 Based on this, 2016 will see another Democratic president. |
m**x
发帖数: 8454 | 12 CIR过的话丢house是以后的事情,不过的话大概就是明年的事情了吧？
【在 w******7 的大作中提到】
: 这个其实说反了
: 过的话才可能真是丢了house
: 政客都不傻，对自己不利的事肯定不会干的
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J*******A
发帖数: 8401 | 13 我记得投票好像不需要出示ID的吧？
那老墨成群结队的去那些深红州投票，而且我总觉得，德州会很快沦陷了。。。至少我
身边乌央乌央的老墨。。。 |
k*b
发帖数: 1256 | 14 CIR不过的话，奥黑肯定继续给非法移民发EAD
我觉得可以准备搞点petition之类的让他给排队的140们也发EAD |
l**p
发帖数: 6080 | 15 投票要看id了
民主党下个不是黑人候选
没可能
【在 q********c 的大作中提到】
: Based on this, 2016 will see another Democratic president.
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J*******A
发帖数: 8401 | 16 共和党如果派rubio其实还有一点点希望。。不过他选举的时候估计也得答应给老墨发
EAD |
k*b
发帖数: 1256 | 17 这个问题mccain早就讲过，GOP没指望CIR过了以后老墨会给他们投票，他们指望的是
CIR过了以后老墨就不要再给民主党投票了。现在GOP的麻烦是老墨疯狂给民主党投票，
拉亲朋好友，冒名投票，一人投多票，等等。其实如果老墨拿了身份，越是低收入群体
，投票率越低，大部分人根本就没兴趣投票了。即使投票，也未必非要给民主党投。
【在 J*******A 的大作中提到】
: 我记得投票好像不需要出示ID的吧？
: 那老墨成群结队的去那些深红州投票，而且我总觉得，德州会很快沦陷了。。。至少我
: 身边乌央乌央的老墨。。。
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J*******A
发帖数: 8401 | 18 在德州，年轻的citizen老墨，其实比较中产的，甚至高收入，如果没有这个亲戚移民
的问题的话，给GOP投票的更多吧我觉得
【在 k*b 的大作中提到】
: 这个问题mccain早就讲过，GOP没指望CIR过了以后老墨会给他们投票，他们指望的是
: CIR过了以后老墨就不要再给民主党投票了。现在GOP的麻烦是老墨疯狂给民主党投票，
: 拉亲朋好友，冒名投票，一人投多票，等等。其实如果老墨拿了身份，越是低收入群体
: ，投票率越低，大部分人根本就没兴趣投票了。即使投票，也未必非要给民主党投。
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k*b
发帖数: 1256 | 19 是的，还有个天主教的问题。其实不说老墨了，如果不是移民问题，我自己也更支持
GOP的主张，但是拿卡之前只好先支持民主党了没有办法。我鼓动身边好几个公民去投
民主党了。
【在 J*******A 的大作中提到】
: 在德州，年轻的citizen老墨，其实比较中产的，甚至高收入，如果没有这个亲戚移民
: 的问题的话，给GOP投票的更多吧我觉得
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J*******A
发帖数: 8401 | 20 越是偏小众的群体，只能把希望寄托在民主党身上啊，像同性恋啊，外来移民啊，之类的
不过这些人问题都解决了，民主党估计就没牌可打了，GOP好像更有优势。。。 |
s*******1
发帖数: 3820 | 21 还会永远丢掉总统
【在 J*******A 的大作中提到】
: 没过的话，明年GOP就丢掉house了吧？
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