x*z 发帖数: 381 | 1 转载自www.trackitt.com
我今天其实也call in了,我的感觉是uscis director他自己也很想把H4 ead赶紧弄出
来,但是somehow有股势力在阻止他这么做。他反复强调希望老印组织继续在网上
twitter啊,email啊摇旗呐喊h4 ead,这样他就能push这股势力来尽快执行h4 ead。
我们一直嫌弃老印,但从这事上,我看到了老印团结的力量,他们能在几天之内就团结
组织起来,通过一些网络手段引起uscis的注意并且使其照顾他们的利益,这点上还是值
得我们学习的。
Hi all,
Long day but I finally got to sit down to write down the details. Yes, it
was me who got to ask second. You all have heard what it was, so no point in
repeating. Before the meeting, they had asked us to limit to 1 question but
I still squeezed in 3. Well, not 3 questions but 1 comment and 2 questions.
To all who think that I should have asked about the timeline, that would
have been useless as they will never say it. Most of us have attended enough
meetings to know by now that they will never say it. If you are meeting
with them at 2pm and the rule will be published at 3 pm, they will still not
say it. It is their policy and there is no point in asking them the same
thing over and over again. And trust me, they are great in dodging questions
. And thats the reason I did not ask about the timeline, he had already
talked about H4 EAD first. I really did want to say that they failed their
own self imposed timeline (12/0014) and that we are very disappointed about
it. He said that his agency feels silly about it.
I will now tell you the other details of the conference which the people on
the phone did not get to see. There is a reason he talked about H4 EAD first
. Just as we reached, the few of us were discussing the rule in the room.
The Public Engagement lady (the one who introduced Leon Rod) came over to us
and thanked us to coming etc. and asked us why we were there. When we all
said H4 EAD rule, she said well one of you can get up and ask about it. When
Leon came on the stage, the lady went up to him and pointed at us and said
something. Leon looked at us and it seemed she told him why we were there.
Right before the meeting, Leon got down from the stage and said "I want to
shake hands with all who came" and then walked up to a few of us (Indians
asking about H4 EAD), shook our hands and went back on the stage. He did not
shake hands with anyone else. Maybe thats why he first talked about H4 EAD.
Secondly, his body language showed that he himself was disappointed that the
rule did not come out yet (which he said) and of course he said his agency
looks silly for not meeting their own self imposed deadline.
After the conference was over, we walked up to him and he readily talked. He
said he knows we are frustrated and the rule is ready, only some
administrative kinks need to be worked out. He also said "Keep screaming and
keep beating the drums" (our recent twitter campaign?). He said "I would
like you to come to the next public engagement meeting and tell me how this
rule has changed your life". We said "If the rule comes out before your next
public engagement, we certainly will". It was a bait for him to spill
something out, but he simply smiled. Like I said, they are good in dodging
questions.
He happily took a picture with us which I have posted on Twitter.
Guys, I know this is a long ordeal but no one said its going to be easy.
Like he said "Keep screaming and keep beating the drums". The rule could
come anyday but we will not stop till it it published.
I think we have achieved a great deal today. A face to face meeting and
interaction does wonders and is always very effective. He can now put our
faces to our problems and our need. We managed to interact a lot with him
today. I am sure the next time he will see us, he will remember the H4 EAD
rule. And that is a powerful tool.
Lets keep going till the rule is published. It is not very far away. | b*******g 发帖数: 757 | | z******y 发帖数: 969 | 3 主要还是他人多势重。 我们h4 ead的估计不超过10000人。 他们应该是我们八倍以上
。 | k**i 发帖数: 10191 | 4 别主要了,老中的习惯就是不作为,等政策.这和我们从小长大的环境有关.要拿一个东西
靠的是贿赂官员,上下打点.这套在美国行不通阿.
【在 z******y 的大作中提到】 : 主要还是他人多势重。 我们h4 ead的估计不超过10000人。 他们应该是我们八倍以上 : 。
| o**********5 发帖数: 53 | 5 看看IT业的现状就知道老中的特点了。公司一线干活的很多,中层管理的不少,高层的
管理人员几乎绝迹。被烙印在各个管理层面赶超。。
专业技术倒是越练越强,地位却是越走越低。。。和平发展时期就这尿性了。难道只能
靠经济危机翻身了?(逻辑如下:管理层的没技术不好再就业,有技术的不愁没工作。
但愿这个逻辑是真的。)
【在 k**i 的大作中提到】 : 别主要了,老中的习惯就是不作为,等政策.这和我们从小长大的环境有关.要拿一个东西 : 靠的是贿赂官员,上下打点.这套在美国行不通阿.
| t********n 发帖数: 3178 | 6 re, 自我反省中,虽然从来没贿赂打点过
【在 k**i 的大作中提到】 : 别主要了,老中的习惯就是不作为,等政策.这和我们从小长大的环境有关.要拿一个东西 : 靠的是贿赂官员,上下打点.这套在美国行不通阿.
| x*z 发帖数: 381 | 7 再转一篇www.trackitt.com, 他说的和我想的差不多
I have been watching this thread for a long time, and have been
participating in spreading pro-H4EAD messages in/out-side my company (my
spouse is on H4). We should totally keep the pressure up on legislators and
bureaucrats. That said, I think there are a few reasons why USCIS has kept
this rule on hold (not saying that is fair):
- Money: DHS funding is up in the air (yet again). USCIS needs to hire
people to process the massive workload of new EADs for only H4 but also
undocumented workers who will file for EADs later in the year. I don't think
USCIS will hire a few people for H4-EAD and then more later for the flood
of applications later. So, maybe, the upcoming fight in Congress over DHS
funding might move/kill this rule.
- Politics: Despite the EA, Republicans are still eying legislation on
immigration (some are pro and some are against). Throw in the mix that
Senator Grassley is now the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee. Basically,
at some point, if Republicans are serious enough, a pack of them will sit
down with negotiators at White House to discuss the details. Legislators/
Lawyers/Aides on both side with sit down and bargain - and, all sorts of
major/minor rules/subrules will be up for exchange. What emerges then will
be what Congress passes and DHS enforces. Till then, DHS/USCIS might wait.
My take on the EA is that it wasn't very "Executive". It was more a shot
across the bow for the Republican ship - to get them to come to the
negotiating table. If you look at other EAs, they are very specific and are
effective down to details. This one was more of a policy document with no
concrete steps other than advising DHS to undertake rule making. Rule making
does not guarantee anything and WH knows that. If the President intended to
act, he could use the EA to direct effective/immediate action.
On the emotional side, we are heartbroken and frustrated with the current
logjam. But my head tells me, it could be a while more before the mess is
cleared up. |
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