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Football版 - 蛇人速度并不快,为啥防守这么好?
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U*S
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根据大家的评论,嫣然是NFL第一CB啊。
H**p
发帖数: 2504
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film study + technique
P*******e
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主要是一帮无节操海鸟fan hype 跟塔利班差远了

【在 U*S 的大作中提到】
: 根据大家的评论,嫣然是NFL第一CB啊。
U*S
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把对方的Number one外接手各种盯死啊!

【在 P*******e 的大作中提到】
: 主要是一帮无节操海鸟fan hype 跟塔利班差远了
d*****e
发帖数: 16730
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比如?

【在 P*******e 的大作中提到】
: 主要是一帮无节操海鸟fan hype 跟塔利班差远了
b*****e
发帖数: 53215
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塔利班可以搞紧锋,蛇人可以么?

【在 d*****e 的大作中提到】
: 比如?
M******k
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革命蛇人是块砖,哪里需要哪里搬。

【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 塔利班可以搞紧锋,蛇人可以么?
d*****e
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他这size应该也够
而且格拉汉姆 其实和wr风格差不多了 跑的很深 人和难民谈判主要分歧就是想拿wr的
pay 而不是te的pay
如果换成立刚 这两个都够呛

【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 塔利班可以搞紧锋,蛇人可以么?
b*****e
发帖数: 53215
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塔利班还差不多

【在 M******k 的大作中提到】
: 革命蛇人是块砖,哪里需要哪里搬。
b*****e
发帖数: 53215
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李刚的块头还不如格拉喊大吧

【在 d*****e 的大作中提到】
: 他这size应该也够
: 而且格拉汉姆 其实和wr风格差不多了 跑的很深 人和难民谈判主要分歧就是想拿wr的
: pay 而不是te的pay
: 如果换成立刚 这两个都够呛

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今天要是不是保定一个海鹰球迷幸福的一天
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d*****e
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恩 还真是 格拉是火箭一般跑的比立刚深 所以拿db去防可行啊
立刚是坦克 一般都是lb 的管辖范围比较多

【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 李刚的块头还不如格拉喊大吧
t***a
发帖数: 7982
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但是塔利班不耐操

【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 塔利班还差不多
R*3
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忘了在哪看过或听过,说他其实不被看好,当然现在大家也有听闻是被小哈宝摆了一道
,但他的SIZE是不像传统的CB,个头比较大。这个是不是PC的功劳?BB也是联盟里没人
要的,被迫去大家拿打球,也是PC把他找来的,所以两个人都对PC感恩得紧,场上也拼
命。貌似他俩以后,联盟其他队也开始着手培养,试用大个CB。算是PC的一个优点吧。

【在 U*S 的大作中提到】
: 根据大家的评论,嫣然是NFL第一CB啊。
z*i
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阿龟。。。

【在 d*****e 的大作中提到】
: 比如?
p**********g
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Reggie Wayne and TY Hilton

【在 d*****e 的大作中提到】
: 比如?
R*3
发帖数: 11814
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恩。那场这两是完败海鹰二线。不过前面主场对节瓜,也被搞了几把大的,当时还以为
是防守放水给GUS BRADLY面子,看来也不是。不进则退阿,常常都要最佳状态,专心致
志的比赛,要不再神的人都会被拉下马。

【在 p**********g 的大作中提到】
: Reggie Wayne and TY Hilton
p**********g
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你们二线的问题是不够灵活,必须在LOS jam接球手。
那一场态度不端正,就被费了。

【在 R*3 的大作中提到】
: 恩。那场这两是完败海鹰二线。不过前面主场对节瓜,也被搞了几把大的,当时还以为
: 是防守放水给GUS BRADLY面子,看来也不是。不进则退阿,常常都要最佳状态,专心致
: 志的比赛,要不再神的人都会被拉下马。

P*******e
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客观地说 还是很牛的 主要是意识好 技术合理 你看很多球 他的位置比wr好多了 即使
吃亏 也让你很不舒坦
不过他的小伙伴们太牛了 海鸟二线我觉得运动能力最强的是thomas turmoil去七八成
的球队打个主力没啥问题

【在 U*S 的大作中提到】
: 把对方的Number one外接手各种盯死啊!
R*3
发帖数: 11814
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对。除了EARL THOMAS III是速度型的,其他都是以PHYSICAL见长。还有一点,我听说
现在全联盟的CB都这样,上来就挑战裁判的底线,看裁判CALL不CALL PI。 一直整直到
CALL PI为止。呵呵。不知道是不是都跟海鹰二线学的。

【在 p**********g 的大作中提到】
: 你们二线的问题是不够灵活,必须在LOS jam接球手。
: 那一场态度不端正,就被费了。

p**********g
发帖数: 9385
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我扣也是这样,在San Diego被连CALL好几个,就老实了!

【在 R*3 的大作中提到】
: 对。除了EARL THOMAS III是速度型的,其他都是以PHYSICAL见长。还有一点,我听说
: 现在全联盟的CB都这样,上来就挑战裁判的底线,看裁判CALL不CALL PI。 一直整直到
: CALL PI为止。呵呵。不知道是不是都跟海鹰二线学的。

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CK出手前一瞬间的read今天邪了 CK认准了要扔 RW认准了不扔
我鸟这是要完蛋的节奏,得赶快处理掉蛇人了我看过的两场大学橄榄球比赛(2)
刚才viking那个trick play为啥犯规了?猜猜这是谁说的,不许Google
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P*******e
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不过昨天那球被冤枉了

【在 R*3 的大作中提到】
: 对。除了EARL THOMAS III是速度型的,其他都是以PHYSICAL见长。还有一点,我听说
: 现在全联盟的CB都这样,上来就挑战裁判的底线,看裁判CALL不CALL PI。 一直整直到
: CALL PI为止。呵呵。不知道是不是都跟海鹰二线学的。

H**p
发帖数: 2504
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不记得打49防Vernon Davis搞到的INT了?

【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 塔利班可以搞紧锋,蛇人可以么?
R*3
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呵呵。话说每个裁判组尺度都不一样,但赛前球队是不是会看录像分析,然后相应调整
。问题是裁判也会调整吗。比如一向松的裁判对联盟中比较PHYSICAL的队是不是也会加
严?

【在 p**********g 的大作中提到】
: 我扣也是这样,在San Diego被连CALL好几个,就老实了!
d********t
发帖数: 4270
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nfl不是奥运会啊,蛇人打球很有脑子的。
o**********r
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啥叫CB的技术?给科普下呗!有些时候觉得看不到啊,这个还是挺有意思的,要是能和
TNT网站转播NBA一样,给多个角度就好了。
H****3
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嗯,镜头都跟着球跑,很多时候corner都看不到。是不是那个叫rewind什么的program
能看多角度的?

【在 o**********r 的大作中提到】
: 啥叫CB的技术?给科普下呗!有些时候觉得看不到啊,这个还是挺有意思的,要是能和
: TNT网站转播NBA一样,给多个角度就好了。

s*****o
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主要是注意力都在LOS,我昨天啥都没看,就看大彼得森了。。。结果手指头还掘了。
。。

program

【在 H****3 的大作中提到】
: 嗯,镜头都跟着球跑,很多时候corner都看不到。是不是那个叫rewind什么的program
: 能看多角度的?

z*****a
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His pick 6 against the Texans was more impressive. He physically outfought
the Texans TE to get that pick.

【在 H**p 的大作中提到】
: 不记得打49防Vernon Davis搞到的INT了?
p******s
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我家蛋牛被欺负了

outfought

【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】
: His pick 6 against the Texans was more impressive. He physically outfought
: the Texans TE to get that pick.

o**********r
发帖数: 1585
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和抢篮板一回事不?

outfought

【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】
: His pick 6 against the Texans was more impressive. He physically outfought
: the Texans TE to get that pick.

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o**********r
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Cornerback Ball Skills
It isn't stressed enough how important ball skills are to being a Great
Cornerback. I've heard too many times, after a cornerback drops a pick, "
That's why he's a cornerback: no hands."
I dislike when people make comments like that. It is a cornerback's
responsibility to make that play.
Your ultimate goal as a Great Cornerback is to not only cover a receiver or
a zone, but to also pick any ball thrown your way and take it to the house (
dance in the endzone with it, and then take it home and put it on your wall).
So developing the ball skills to get a ball even in the most difficult
positions and take it from the receiver separates you from the average DBs
and elevates your game to a new level.
You can always be better than you are now. I'm sure you've seen great
receivers make incredible catches, and thought to yourself, "Wow, how did he
do that?"
The reality is that he wasn't born with those ball skills.
Maybe he's more inclined as a gifted athlete, but ball skills like that are
a specialized skill and have to be practiced...
...And there are things you can do to develop those amazing ball skills.
Catching
Catching was an issue for me. The first pass ever thrown to me in junior pee
wees snuck through my hands and hit me right in the face (ouch). So I
realized early on that my ball skills were something that I needed to work a
little extra at.
I got together with my quarterback, and we worked on catching and timing. In
about two weeks I was snatching almost everything.
That taught me a lesson: if you want to be better at something, work on it,
and you will improve.
If you take nothing else from this site, take that.
Catching is just like every other skill: everyone can improve if they put
forth the effort.
So perfect your ball skills. Catch 100 balls a day, from different angles.
You can alsothrow to yourself or have your quarterback throw you some balls.
If you have a helmet, practice catching with it on to add a realistic
challenge.
If you have access to your schools equipment or can afford it, hit up the
JUGS machine.
Here's another great tool you can use to work on your hands It forces you to
use spead your fingers and use your hands to catch the ball the right way.
Having the Mindset
In order to be able to go get that ball, either from a difficult spot or
from a receiver, you have to first believe and know you're gonna win that
battle. We're talking about split second decisions here. You don't have time
to second guess yourself.
You have to have confidence in your ball skills. That confidence comes from
know how hard you've worked on them.
Visualization and Positive Self-Talk
Cement in your mind that it's gonna be yours. Do this before each play in
practice and in the game: get in your head an "if they throw it, it's mine"
type of mindset.
Visualize yourself catching the ball the night before every game. Knowing
that you'll be in position and that you'll make the play is paramount.
For defensive backs, knowing when to look for the ball is also an important
part of your ball skills.
When To Look For the Ball
"Ball" Call
You can listen for your teammates, who should be giving you a "ball" call if
and when ball comes.
Receiver's Queues
Knowing when to look for the ball in the air basically comes to knowing what
route the receiver is running and having that route covered (see covering
tips, reading receivers). Then you can look to see if the ball is coming.
Receivers will sometimes give signs that tell you when the ball is gonna be
thrown to them. Before the play, you'll see that they get really focused or
excited, or they might signal to the QB that they have a mismatch by tapping
the top of their helmets (a supreme show of disrespect, by the way).
Many times, if you're running with your receiver, he'll tell you with his
eyes: when the ball is in the air, his eyes will get big in his anticipation
of a catch. You can then turn around a and play the ball or you can wait
for his arms to go up and play through is hands.
Tricky Bas***ds
Be warned, though, that great receivers don't make these mistakes too often.
The great ones line up and run their routes the same way every time so that
you can't read them.
They can also fool you with their eyes when the ball is in the air: instead
of their eyes getting big, they will pretend like the ball isn't coming and
then, at the last minute, go up and snag the ball real fast.
Thats why it's so important to have the receiver covered, so that you don't
have to play their eyes. If you're on their hip, you can play the ball with
your own eyes and use your ball skills to come down with it.
Remember that you should only look for the ball when you are on you your
receiver's hip, unless you are confident you can make up any space he has on
you and still make the play (i.e. speed work).
Judging Balls
When it comes to judging balls you preferably want to be able to come back
downhill toward the ball instead of having to catch up to it. Then make sure
you can catch the ball at its highest point.
The player who can get the ball at its highest point, with the ball skills
to take it, will most likely be the player to come down with it.
So if your receiver is running a deep route, like a post, you should get on
your horse and stay on top of him so that you can come downhill and get the
ball at its highest.
Body Positioning and Control
Obviously, body position matters when it comes to going up for balls,
especially when you're a 5'10" cornerback, competing with a 6'4" receiver.
As I said before, coming downhill for balls is important, but what do you do
when a receiver is coming downhill for that same ball. The short answer is
to beat him to the punch and get the ball at its highest point.
Great receivers will try to use their bodies against you by shielding the
ball from you and catching it as far away from you as possible.
If they do manage to get in your way, you can use your arm to violently
knock the ball out, or you can try to snatch the ball right out of their
hands.
If he has position and you can't manage either of those, make him pay for
having the audacity to try to catch a ball in your domain.
If you have inside position on a go route, you want to look inside at the
ball while using your body to funnel the receiver toward the sideline and
wall him off. When the ball comes, it should be easy pickings.
Back-Shoulder Throw
Many times, if you have a receiver covered pretty well downfield and have
been doing so for most of the game, the coaches will call for a back-
shoulder throw. Basically, the quarterback will throw the ball to the
receiver's outside shoulder, away from you.
This throw is normally a pretty quick release, so you don't have much time
to make the adjustment.
The best way to play the backshoulder throw is to plant and spin back toward
the inside of the field and get position underneath the receiver. This puts
you right in front of the ball.
Here's Darrell Revis, displaying a perfect example of how to cover the back-
shoulder throw.
Land On Your Feet
On top of all these points, I want to put emphasis a another one: stay on
your feet when you pick the ball. So many DBs make nice plays on the ball,
just to fall, and have no chance of taking it to the house.
So when you go up for a ball, do it with the intention of landing on your
feet.
Fortunately, this a skill that you can improve. Using adjustable hurdles in
your drills, you can simulate a need to jump and improve your aerial ball
skills.
Make sure you come down with ball instead of your opponent.
I strongly recommend you be at least 3 weeks into your power training phase
before doing this. This will ensure you have a good base of strength and
power so you don't injure yourself.
If you want to improve aerial ball skills with something less monotonous
then drills, play basketball. It's also great for jumping coordination.
Jumping
Some defensive backs dread going up and competing with 6'4" receivers for
the football.
They freeze up, or just can't get up high enough, and they get beat.
Great Cornerbacks don't. Why? Because as a Great Cornerback, you have worked
on your ability to go up and snag anything thrown your way.
That's what you DO!
If you're not there yet, this Jump Training Program can complement your
strength and power training and help get you there.
Remember, just like a receiver, your job is to catch everything thrown your
way (and then take it to the house and dance in the endzone :))
o**********r
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http://www.greatcornerback.com/ball-skills.html
是一项非常强的脑力劳动
l*x
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You can't out run him
You can't out jump him
You can't out hustle him
You can't out smart him
You can't even out talk him
The only thing you can do, is out mad him. U mad Bro?
H**p
发帖数: 2504
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有相通之处,卡位,预判,起跳什么的。

【在 o**********r 的大作中提到】
: 和抢篮板一回事不?
:
: outfought

s****r
发帖数: 5546
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aglee. So many experts took cheap shots against Schaub
as if this was a certain interception anyone could have made.
Even Sherman admitted afterwards that by not slapping
the ball away, he was risking giving up big yardage
had he failed to catch it.

outfought

【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】
: His pick 6 against the Texans was more impressive. He physically outfought
: the Texans TE to get that pick.

z*****a
发帖数: 3809
36
An illustrated guide to playing cornerback with Richard Sherman
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/20/4747480/richard-sherman-n
k*e
发帖数: 238
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怕就是怕有些裁判整场不吹, 等到了第四节关键时候开始吹.

【在 R*3 的大作中提到】
: 对。除了EARL THOMAS III是速度型的,其他都是以PHYSICAL见长。还有一点,我听说
: 现在全联盟的CB都这样,上来就挑战裁判的底线,看裁判CALL不CALL PI。 一直整直到
: CALL PI为止。呵呵。不知道是不是都跟海鹰二线学的。

o**********r
发帖数: 1585
38
He is terrific

【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】
: An illustrated guide to playing cornerback with Richard Sherman
: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/20/4747480/richard-sherman-n

l*******z
发帖数: 4276
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Yes, that's against Vernon Davis.
I was in the stand that night. I noticed him chasing Boldin all around the
field, left, right, slot. And several occasions he was on Davis (did not pay
attention whether Boldin was on the field). He did not give up a single
reception to either of them (the 2 receptions Boldin caught was from the
slot in the 4th quarter when he was defended by someone else). And I
actually spent quite some snaps looking at him rather than LOS. He did not
really give any separations all game, and Caepernick did not try him when he
was on the left side except once. And you all know the result of that one.
I also see a pattern, when the QB lobs the ball to the right sideline (
except back shoulder pass), most of the time Sherman was in better position
to receive than the WR. 2 of 3 of his interceptions was like that. And
yesterday he had a near one battled down at the last second by the WR. I
think the QB already learned that so they don't try that many times, but few
occasions they do, they pay big. So probably we will see even less or none
of such tries this season

【在 H**p 的大作中提到】
: 不记得打49防Vernon Davis搞到的INT了?
l*******z
发帖数: 4276
40
具体咋也说不上。但因为关注Sherman,也读了些文章,发现比想象中复杂多了。速度灵
敏弹跳这些就不说了,阅读能力,欺骗QB能力这些都很关键。 大家觉得WR要不要技术
?There is a reason CB is viewed as a more premier position.

【在 o**********r 的大作中提到】
: 啥叫CB的技术?给科普下呗!有些时候觉得看不到啊,这个还是挺有意思的,要是能和
: TNT网站转播NBA一样,给多个角度就好了。

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蛇人:We Compete Against OurselvesSeattle怎么突然这么多 搞药的?
Richard Sherman: The trash-talking cornerback今天要是不是保定
Jerry Rice said无端怪罪裁判,这也太没品了。
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l*******z
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这篇文章可以好好看看,没想到在LOS那么随便碰一下都那么有学问

【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】
: An illustrated guide to playing cornerback with Richard Sherman
: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/20/4747480/richard-sherman-n

o**********r
发帖数: 1585
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"Sherman's stiff-arm jam slows Smith up out of his release by half a second.
It's enough to disrupt the timing and location of Smith's route. The ball
hits Smith in the thigh almost as he's turning his head to find the ball."
Is this an illegal contact?
A**d
发帖数: 13310
43
illegal contact得在LOS之外5码,Sherman都是在LOS上就开摸,当然不犯规

second.

【在 o**********r 的大作中提到】
: "Sherman's stiff-arm jam slows Smith up out of his release by half a second.
: It's enough to disrupt the timing and location of Smith's route. The ball
: hits Smith in the thigh almost as he's turning his head to find the ball."
: Is this an illegal contact?

o**********r
发帖数: 1585
44
不是5码以内么?5吗之内绝对有,而且很多illegal contact判罚

【在 A**d 的大作中提到】
: illegal contact得在LOS之外5码,Sherman都是在LOS上就开摸,当然不犯规
:
: second.

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