D****3
发帖数: 611 | 1 Examples of Non-Safety(a) 解释的一清二楚 有问题么？
source:http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/safety2
The important factor in a safety is impetus. Two points are scored for the
opposing team when the ball is dead on or behind a team’s own goal line if
the impetus came from a player on that team.
Examples of Safety:
(a) Blocked punt goes out of kicking team’s end zone. Impetus was provided
by punting team. The block only changes direction of ball, not impetus.
(b) Ball carrier retreats from field of play into his own end zone and is
downed. Ball carrier provides impetus.
(c) Offensive team commits a foul and spot of enforcement is behind its own
goal line.
(d) Player on receiving team muffs punt and, trying to get ball, forces or
illegally kicks (creating new impetus) it into end zone where it goes out of
the end zone or is recovered by a member of the receiving team in the end
zone.
Examples of Non-Safety:
(a) Player intercepts a pass with both feet inbounds in the field of play
and his momentum carries him into his own end zone. Ball is put in play at
spot of interception.
(b) Player intercepts a pass in his own end zone and is downed in the end
zone, even after recovering in the end zone. Impetus came from passing team,
not from defense. (Touchback)
(c) Player passes from behind his own goal line. Opponent bats down ball in
end zone. (Incomplete pass) |
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发帖数: 611 | |
G**Y
发帖数: 33224 | 3 惯性进去是一回事，被down是另一回事吧。
原LZ的问题是惯性进去以后，被down，算不算safety。
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【在 D****3 的大作中提到】
: Examples of Non-Safety(a) 解释的一清二楚 有问题么？
: source:http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/safety2
: The important factor in a safety is impetus. Two points are scored for the
: opposing team when the ball is dead on or behind a team’s own goal line if
: the impetus came from a player on that team.
: Examples of Safety:
: (a) Blocked punt goes out of kicking team’s end zone. Impetus was provided
: by punting team. The block only changes direction of ball, not impetus.
: (b) Ball carrier retreats from field of play into his own end zone and is
: downed. Ball carrier provides impetus.
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m*****y
发帖数: 2424 | 4 (a) Player intercepts a pass with both feet inbounds in the field of play
and his momentum carries him into his own end zone. Ball is put in play at
spot of interception.
Like I said, ball on 1 yard line where the interception was made
【在 G**Y 的大作中提到】
: 惯性进去是一回事，被down是另一回事吧。
: 原LZ的问题是惯性进去以后，被down，算不算safety。
:
: if
: provided
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G**Y
发帖数: 33224 | 5 这个例子里没提有没有被down的问题呀。1 yard处断球，然后被推进了endzone呢。
【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】
: (a) Player intercepts a pass with both feet inbounds in the field of play
: and his momentum carries him into his own end zone. Ball is put in play at
: spot of interception.
: Like I said, ball on 1 yard line where the interception was made
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b*****e
发帖数: 53215 | 6 如果不是惯性，是躲人自己跑进去给按住呢？
【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】
: (a) Player intercepts a pass with both feet inbounds in the field of play
: and his momentum carries him into his own end zone. Ball is put in play at
: spot of interception.
: Like I said, ball on 1 yard line where the interception was made
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m*****y
发帖数: 2424 | 7 safety
惯性进入end zone, 只要不出来就是touchback；出来再回去就是safety
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 如果不是惯性，是躲人自己跑进去给按住呢？
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b*****e
发帖数: 53215 | 8 比如在姨妈线抄截，没有进端区跑到5妈，为了躲人又跑回端区被按倒，算啥
【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】
: safety
: 惯性进入end zone, 只要不出来就是touchback；出来再回去就是safety
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m*****y
发帖数: 2424 | 9 当然是safety
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 比如在姨妈线抄截，没有进端区跑到5妈，为了躲人又跑回端区被按倒，算啥
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b*****e
发帖数: 53215 | 10 如果在姨妈线抄截，惯性摔进端区
在里面跑了三圈都出不来被按倒算啥
【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】
: 当然是safety
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 11 你只要人在禁区反抗了 还被爆 就是safety
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 如果在姨妈线抄截，惯性摔进端区
: 在里面跑了三圈都出不来被按倒算啥
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b*****e
发帖数: 53215 | 12 那我在姨妈线抄截，跑到无码，再主动跑回端区不反抗主动躺下算啥
【在 P*******e 的大作中提到】
: 你只要人在禁区反抗了 还被爆 就是safety
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 13 算你2b 呵呵
你如果回到端区应该就不是自己卧槽了 你这case几乎肯定是被人摁倒 safety
昨天抄截ck那个其实就有点这个意思 “可惜”最后还是在外面
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 那我在姨妈线抄截，跑到无码，再主动跑回端区不反抗主动躺下算啥
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D****3
发帖数: 611 | 14 前面说的躲人进endzone然后被tackle肯定是safety 因为impeteus来自自己 |
D****3
发帖数: 611 | 15 前面说的躲人进endzone然后被tackle肯定是safety 因为impeteus来自自己 |
P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 16 what？ 难道我记错了
这个意思是说 如果端区外抄截 能往前跑就跑 不能往前跑就往端区跑
最差也是int点的球 当然没进end zone就被摁倒算倒霉
【在 D****3 的大作中提到】
: 前面说的躲人进endzone然后被tackle肯定是safety 因为impeteus来自自己
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D****3
发帖数: 611 | 17
不是 只能是惯性带你进endzone 而不是跑。。至于怎么鉴定比较复杂 比如看你有没有
躲避或者加速动作 这个你看看关于momentum的规则回来告诉我们吧 反正肯定不能你
主观去跑
Section 28 Safety
SAFETY
A Safety is the situation in which the ball is dead on or behind a team’s
own goal line provided:
(a) the impetus (3-15-3) came from a player of that team;
(b) it is not a touchdown (11-2).
MOMENTUM
Note: It is not a safety if a defensive player in the field of play
intercepts a pass; catches or recovers a fumble, backward pass, scrimmage
kick, free kick, or fair catch kick and his original momentum carries him
into his end zone where the ball is declared dead in his team’s possession.
Instead the ball belongs to the defensive team at the spot where the ball
was intercepted, caught or recovered. (11-5-1 Exc. 2)
【在 P*******e 的大作中提到】
: what？ 难道我记错了
: 这个意思是说 如果端区外抄截 能往前跑就跑 不能往前跑就往端区跑
: 最差也是int点的球 当然没进end zone就被摁倒算倒霉
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 18 这个我们都理解 其实是比较小概率事件
我觉得可以说非主观意愿的倒在端区里 呵呵
你要是敢往端区跑 还跑不出来 safety无悬念啊 这个我印象看过不少
【在 D****3 的大作中提到】
:
: 不是 只能是惯性带你进endzone 而不是跑。。至于怎么鉴定比较复杂 比如看你有没有
: 躲避或者加速动作 这个你看看关于momentum的规则回来告诉我们吧 反正肯定不能你
: 主观去跑
: Section 28 Safety
: SAFETY
: A Safety is the situation in which the ball is dead on or behind a team’s
: own goal line provided:
: (a) the impetus (3-15-3) came from a player of that team;
: (b) it is not a touchdown (11-2).
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D****3
发帖数: 611 | 19 还有个情况就是如果endzone外原地intercept后不动 被推进endzone算safety。
上面这句话需要考证，但是我玩madden 25就发生过一次原地int被推进 算safety |
P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 20 好吧 非主观意愿无外力干涉倒在禁区里
按照那条规则应该不能爬起来继续跑了 有待考证。。。
【在 D****3 的大作中提到】
: 还有个情况就是如果endzone外原地intercept后不动 被推进endzone算safety。
: 上面这句话需要考证，但是我玩madden 25就发生过一次原地int被推进 算safety
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l**k
发帖数: 45267 | 21 ft，这不符合“momentum carry”的条件好吧
～～～～～～～～～～～～
【在 P*******e 的大作中提到】
: what？ 难道我记错了
: 这个意思是说 如果端区外抄截 能往前跑就跑 不能往前跑就往端区跑
: 最差也是int点的球 当然没进end zone就被摁倒算倒霉
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h**********e
发帖数: 4328 | 22 这绝对不科学啊。。。
【在 D****3 的大作中提到】
: 还有个情况就是如果endzone外原地intercept后不动 被推进endzone算safety。
: 上面这句话需要考证，但是我玩madden 25就发生过一次原地int被推进 算safety
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D****3
发帖数: 611 | 23
我那时候扔了个int 然后对方int后我cornerback直接推倒他到倒在了endzone safety
太爽了
【在 h**********e 的大作中提到】
: 这绝对不科学啊。。。
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l*****8
发帖数: 16949 | 24 我的理解，只要不出端区，即使往外跑被摁倒也不应该是safety。
如果出了端区自己回来被弄倒，那就是safety.
如果在端区外int,因为惯性跌入端区不是safety.
第一条不肯定，需要董秋迪来解释。 |
l*****8
发帖数: 16949 | 25 这个显然不对啊，在端区外被推进端区的话，球的位置应该是对方队员第一次接触int
队员的位置。
【在 D****3 的大作中提到】
: 还有个情况就是如果endzone外原地intercept后不动 被推进endzone算safety。
: 上面这句话需要考证，但是我玩madden 25就发生过一次原地int被推进 算safety
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